Aces High Bulletin Board
General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Xargos on April 10, 2008, 08:36:00 PM
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This angers me.
http://www.abc2news.com/news/local/story.aspx?content_id=d78c857d-c789-4e53-96a1-e59a7ba47d52
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That is such BS, notice how all the other kids went to the teachers Aid. Truly disgusting how the majority of todays kids are.
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What makes me mad is the way the school administration handled it. Typical attitude of blaming the victim.
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Culture of violence. I'm sure whitey is to blame.
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That is such BS, notice how all the other kids went to the teachers Aid. Truly disgusting how the majority of todays kids are.
Awe dang, before I watched, I saw your response here & was briefly thankful that the other students were doing the right thing.
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You all have it so wrong...
In the video you can see a teenage student beating Jolita on the floor of her art class at Reginald F. Lewis High School.
This was a piece of performance art.
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This angers me.
http://www.abc2news.com/news/local/story.aspx?content_id=d78c857d-c789-4e53-96a1-e59a7ba47d52
i hate to say this, but it's only gonna get worse....and we can thank all of these kids parents for this behaviour. if they'd teach their kids respect, this bs would never happen.
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That is terrible.
"Jolita says that she got no support from school administration. Instead says she was told that she egged the student on by threatening to defend herself."
This is worse.
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You all ever been to Baltimore?
My son went to some goverment educational thing in Washington DC for a few days when he was in high school.
I dropped him off and was going to spend the night in Baltimore and check out the town. Just because I was never there.
I drove past the stadium looking for a hotel and figured I'd drive around and take a look see.
Went in a few blocks and turned a corner. Looked around and thought to myself.
"This looks alot like the city I grew up in. And I'm unarmed."
"Screw dat"
Back to the highway and the long ride home.
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You all ever been to Baltimore?
My son went to some goverment educational thing in Washington DC for a few days when he was in high school.
I dropped him off and was going to spend the night in Baltimore and check out the town. Just because I was never there.
I drove past the stadium looking for a hotel and figured I'd drive around and take a look see.
Went in a few blocks and turned a corner. Looked around and thought to myself.
"This looks alot like the city I grew up in. And I'm unarmed."
"Screw dat"
Back to the highway and the long ride home.
i have......it's almost as bad as camden nj......and i oonly live abuot 10 miles from camden........
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i have......it's almost as bad as camden nj......and i oonly live abuot 10 miles from camden........
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I witnessed an attack on an 80 year old man by two youths weilding knives at the Camden City Hall Speedline station back in 1973. Fortunatley it was in January and the old man had a suit and tie on with a heavy overcoat, they stabbed him in the neck but the blade only went in 1/4 inch or so. My buddy and I chased the assailants to the street but they dissapeared right by the White Castle there.
There was a Transit cop in the White Castle but he was busy stuffing sliders down his gullet and didn't see anyone running out of the station.
I used to work in Camden on 6th street, just around the corner from the Campbells soup factory. It's amazing how run down that area was even though it was 2-3 blocks from City Hall.
That was the first job I had where I illegally carried a concealed gun whenever I had to work in the city < photographer >, tensions were still running high from the riots in '71.
Sure was glad to leave that state, was realy strange being told I had a thick California accent by people that said things like wutter and coafee. :eek:
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i have......it's almost as bad as camden nj......and i oonly live abuot 10 miles from camden........
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Ahhh good ol Camden. The countries most dangerous city
I grew up in New Brunswick.
Before J&J cleaned it up.
Its like night and day there now
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I seems 'sparing the rod' is having it's positive affects after all of these years.
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It's times like these I move dangerously close to lasz-thought. And it doesn't seem far off...
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I had a run in with some bloods a few years ago. They came into the gym and started beating this student right in front of me( they were students as well). I started grabbing them and pulling off the student but they were relentless. I finally started grabbing them and literally throwing them across the gym floor. Finally I got the victim and grabbed him up and ran out of the gym with him. Later that afternoon when I got home I was pulling my shirt off and my wife said, "What happened to you?" I looked in the mirror and had a slice down my back. Didn't feel it, and don't know what caused it, but probably fingernail scratch. I also took a shot in the kidney. Nonetheless, the gangmembers came up and apologized to me the next day for beating the kid down in my class. They said they should have got him in the parking lot.
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Culture of violence. I'm sure whitey is to blame.
You are the only whitey to blame. :devil
Seriously, this whole business of blaming the victim is ridiculous and needs to stop. The blame needs put right where it belongs, on the perps.
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vouchers are a good start.
some of you are saying the parents are to blame but.. these kids have no parents. the same who are so quick to blame "parents" are the quickest to destroy the institutions that create real parents.
68% of all negros born are illegitimate. 34% of all births. Divorce rate is fast reaching more than 60%
vouchers would be a good start tho. kids who can't or won't learn shouldn't be in school with those who can and will. Every year the public schools teach less. It is because they pander to and teach down to the dumbest and most violent.
There are trade schools and places to work where no school at all is required. dragging worthless students through a failing system until they are old enough to drop out anyway... it is only hurting those who could benefiet.. all the while.. it is costing us about twice what a real good school would cost.
lazs
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That is such BS, notice how all the other kids went to the teachers Aid. Truly disgusting how the MAJORITY of todays kids are.
Bullcrap. The other students broke up the fight. It's a very small minority of students who have ever attacked a teacher.
Anyways far more chilling (IMHO) were the 3rd graders that conspired to harm their teacher- they brought weapons and duct tape and actually planned out their attack. That's far more alarming than one student going over the top, as far as what the kids are learning at home.
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so airhead.. would our schools be better off.. would our society be better off.. if the kids who started the fight simply were not allowed to go to school? I believe so. If they could find a voucher school that would take em.. so be it but.. they wouldn't be dragging everyone else down for no good reason. Why pretend that you are teaching them when it only drags down the rest who could be learning more with less time spent on the (for the time being) worthless ?
If, at some point the little gangsters want to learn.. they can do it at night while working at walmart or fast food places.. if not.. they can just go to prison or work at low paying jobs forever.. it is their choice
lazs
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That will never happen in an 'equal opportunity' society.
Until the world hardens the fk up a bit public schools will continue to teach to the lowest common denominator. I am very grateful that I was able to attend a school that had a program for slow learners that had them attend separate classes instead of having them sit through a regular English class and wonder why they failed for submitting 3/4s of a page for an essay that was alloted 2 hours to be completed. As harsh as it is to say so, I was incredibly frustrated when classes were held back because a couple of morons were unable to grasp impossibly simple concepts.
You're right about the parenting thing, though, where does one learn appropriate behaviour when the creatures that gave birth to you are complete and utter dead chits?
The trouble isn't so much with the kids it is with the fact that procreation is taken so lightly these days and also that the institution that nurtures this creation is entered into without due thought and consideration all too often.
We can sit here and shake our heads at these kids with no restraint and no sense of decency or respect all we like but ultimately (in many cases) the blame lies with the parents who somehow managed to escape Darwin's noose.
Having said that, kids seem to be suffering from an insufficient amount of the good old 'kick up the arse' when they fk about and because of this they seem to think that they can get away with anything they like and escape ever taking any blame for their own actions.
In reference to the thread topic... does anyone else have serious doubts about that particular teacher's ability to teach? I can't say that I am filled with confidence by her performance on camera. Judging by her body language and inability to exude any sort of authority or even confidence I'd say it's no small wonder that a student (literally, in this case) walked all over her. I suspect that she has very little control over any students at all, let alone ones that would assault a teacher.
Piss poor teachers, piss poor parents and deadchit kids? It's a no-win situation there.
When I was in school a student threw a chair at a teacher and the kid was expelled. End of story. The obvious solution to this situation seems to me to be as follows. First, expel the kid, perhaps the extra hour in transit every day to go to a school a bit further away will make him think about controlling his temper next time. 2 - Sit the teacher down and recommend a change of employment as she is clearly in the wrong field. Even for an art teacher she looks pathetically useless.
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wow, just wow.
how is our country still even working/running with all these tards out there?
I remember in High School a scuffle was breaking out between two kids before classes started. The principle walked over and began pulling one kid away from the other. The kid without even realizing who he was swinging out clocked the principle a pretty good one to the jaw. He was then slammed into the table and put in an arm lock faster than you could believe.
We found out in an old highschool yearbook that our principle had the nickname "mad dog" mangum. Then we learned why.
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Equal opportunity is both ways, become a success or become a failure.
No since waisting time, money, or food on the useless.
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Bullcrap. The other students broke up the fight. It's a very small minority of students who have ever attacked a teacher.
Anyways far more chilling (IMHO) were the 3rd graders that conspired to harm their teacher- they brought weapons and duct tape and actually planned out their attack. That's far more alarming than one student going over the top, as far as what the kids are learning at home.
Hmmm i watched the video again, and well i didnt see any of the students BREAK the fight up, but i did see one kid make a lame attempt at a kick at the teacher.
Dont know what video you watched
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I have to say I agree with Laz. I'd much rather kids that want to learn go to school and those that dont send to a trade school so they can still be a productive member to society of sorts.
I remember back in 6th grade my science teacher literaly stopped class one day about 15 minutes before class was over and she just stood and stared. The last thing she said that day waas that things will be different tomorrow.
The next day she had the class divided. She stopped everybody at the door and told us where to sit. After everybody was seated she said that after some observations she decided to divide the class. She told us that those on this side are the ones who do not want to be here to learn and they are the ones making distractions for those that do wish to learn. She said she was tired of it and was going to do something about it and so she did. She told those on the other side that if they wanted to learn and be on the side of those who want to be there to learn they had to prove to her that they wanted to change. She gave them extra credit work to help get them caught up with the rest of us and to also help their grade. Most of the students were close to failing or failing. She said she was there to help if they needed it, but she wasnt going to do the work for them. They had to want to do it themselves. By the end of the semester everybody was seated again and all the students who were failing were passing.
Its been awhile since then, but I remember that I didnt totaly understand what she was doing, but I was glad I wasnt on the bad side. I always enjoyed going to her class. She made science fun. Years later now I got a better grasp of the reasoning behind what she did. I wish more teachers would do something similar, but like she said for the teacher to truly help, the student has to want to learn. If they truly dont, then place them in an area where they can learn something, whatever lil it may be, and prevent them from distracting those that do.
Wolfy
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My wife works in High School were she has been threatened in the past by students. Fortunately for her she is a fairly popular teacher and more than a few students stood up to protect her when a student got in her face.
I hate where she works. A white teacher in a mostly black area is not a good combo to start with. Add in the fact the two campus police officers are about as worthless as tits on a bull and you have a recipe for chaos. Kids bring guns to school there, there have been two stabbings, a kid was sent to the hospital after she was beat into a gang at school (yes I said she).
I have no idea was it going on with kids today. How they come up with things like that above is anyones guess. I just want her to get out of the school she is at and go work at a nice school. Away from all that insanity.
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I think some here get it.. maybe most everyone deep down.
We are a very kind and generous society that believes in fair play and equality. the things that are happening today offend those values the way that the meanings are perverted.
"Equality" here was meant to be equality of opportunity not equality of outcome. equality of outcome is liberal socialist utopia bull. equality of outcome socialist thinking is what gets us in this mess in the first place.
Equality of opportunity says that everyone has a chance to go to school. It does not say you have the right to be a disruptive and violent influence. The rest have the right to be educated without you.
Since we are also a fair and forgiving society with a desire to see everyone do well.. a charitable if you will, society that also is rich and full of opportunity for the taking.. anyone who can't or won't be educated still has unlimited options.. they can go back to school at a later date.. even at night.. they can go to trade school.. they can work at a job that doesn't require an education.. some here work every day and support a family without even speaking english!
Why is this not happening? Public school/democrats/teachers union stranglehold.. pure and simple.. public schools get their money from how many kids show up.. democrats get votes from the teachers union and the teachers union fears any real competition. they know that they can't compete and they don't want to work for their money.
The end result is our public schools.
It is simple to fix.. the solution itself is simple.. vouchers. the implementation is impossible in a country where the greed of the teachers and the democrats have so much power.
lazs
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so airhead.. would our schools be better off.. would our society be better off.. if the kids who started the fight simply were not allowed to go to school?
lazs
Lazs, the kid who attacked that teacher should be in jail. Instead of the teacher going to the principal she shoulda called the police and pressed charges- Irony, tho, is there was no mention here at all about the girl who got beat up by 8 of her "peers" who wanted to make a beat down video- I guess the perps in that instance were the wrong color to gain a mention here, eh? ;)
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Not sure about that case.. what was it again? from what you said tho.. anytime 8 kids attack one.. the 8 kids need to be kicked out of school..
That would cause a large loss of income for that school district tho so.. it will not happen. The schools are paid by the head...I am sure that as a union guy, you can understand that? You have to protect the income of the school and those saint like part time workers.. the teachers.
lazs
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The cities are lost. Wall them up for 50 years. Fill them with water.
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Lazs, the kid who attacked that teacher should be in jail. Instead of the teacher going to the principal she shoulda called the police and pressed charges- Irony, tho, is there was no mention here at all about the girl who got beat up by 8 of her "peers" who wanted to make a beat down video- I guess the perps in that instance were the wrong color to gain a mention here, eh? ;)
That incident wasn't at school nor did it involve a teacher. I smell a hijack attempt. Perhaps you should start your own thread on that. I'm sure you'll get some opinions. Here's mine, cut and dried case. The attackers should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. I'll copy and paste when you start the thread.
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AK, the police should prosecute in this case too. We need to quit putting responsibility for this type of- behavior- where it belongs, which is on the person doing the criminal act. That teacher's Union can't help, the school officials can't help- what I saw was an assault and that was a crime, last time I looked.
I'm all for giving that kid vocational training tho, as long as it's in jail.
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When I was 10, I had to face the school bully in the Gymnastic changing room. He went whipping the minors (everyone was scared of him) with a wet towel (most being half naked).
I ended up trying to stop him, so he went for me. I used a thick leather belt from my trousers against his wet towel.
He ended up weeping on the floor, with red stripes all over :devil
The guy was after me for the next year or so, but never caught me, - I could run faster, and just about everybody would always "accidentally" be in his way.
The moral of the story is that the group moral is VERY important, and to guide it, the teachers have to be quite good. They must have respect.
BTW, we became good friends later ;)
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LOL prosecute ...You guys gotta be kidding me.......What does that student give a crap....Police record..you think she cares??
goining to jail you thing she cares.....getting kicked out of school...you think this punk cares....HELL NO...Wake up O'Club
The system is to easy on this kind of thing......she should have her britches pulled down and get a canning in front of the public!
That would slow this behavior down to nothing....but Some of you liberal soft hearted wussies will not let that happen....so it
goes on and on and on and on and on!!!!!
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Just what I thought no comment whats so ever. Maybe I drove my point through!!! yeaaaaa