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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: AKIron on April 14, 2008, 02:18:37 PM
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I'm seriously considering one of these:
(http://www.kawasaki.com/ImagesMain/Products/Banner/008764d6-c1cf-4fcc-9295-0229c009c0c0.jpg)
http://www.kawasaki.com/Products/Detail.aspx?id=280
Opinions welocmed and appreciated.
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cause it's almost a Harley?
lazs
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cause it's almost a Harley?
lazs
Cause it has 2000cc engine and is only $13K.
I've owned a lot of bikes but always Japanese, never a Harley. I want something I can cruise around town on and drive up to Washington on without losing my teeth due to vibration.
Still, I am considering a Harley.
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Cause it has 2000cc engine and is only $13K.
I've owned a lot of bikes but always Japanese, never a Harley. I want something I can cruise around town on and drive up to Washington on without losing my teeth due to vibration.
Still, I am considering a Harley.
I own a Harley and never had any problems with vibration. I ride all the time thru the Adorondiack Mountains. Usually go up for a long weekend and put an between 1000 - 1200 miles. Harleys will hold there value also. Part of the reason why I bought one. Good luck in your search.... :salute
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just curious.. why a V twin? Lots of jap bikes that are smoother and faster for less.
I am curious because I recall a honda add way back in the 60's that showed a gee wizz 4 cyl honda motor and a splattered in oil and dilatpidated Harley knucklehead motor side by side asking if you wanted to be part of the old outdated past or the gee wizz wonderful future. You would think honda would have flying cars by now...
Instead.. they (the japs) are all trying to build a V twin that sounds like and feels like a 1947 knuck.
lazs
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Seems like all the crusiers these days are using the V twin. I do like the look and sound of them too. How's the Sportster for vibration on the highway?
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Seems like all the crusiers these days are using the V twin. I do like the look and sound of them too. How's the Sportster for vibration on the highway?
The Sporty is horrible. If you want a good ride get one of the Softail or a Dyna models. I bought a Softail Standard (FXST) and modified it over the years. I paid 12,600.00 for it brand new in 2001. You have to check to see what they're going for now. There are used ones out there with low miles and carry over service agreements.
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Nothing wrong with the new sporties. The older ones, yes you got vibration. The new ones are rubber-mounted. I had a '06 XL1200C Sportster and had no complaints about vibration. I traded it in on a '07 FXSTC (Softail Custom) which has a frame-mounted engine but is internally balanced. Both are very smooth running.
If you like Harleys, I suggest getting one. Two of my closest friends recently got metrics, one a Suzuki boulevard and one a Honda VTX. Both are very nice bikes. The Suzuki got traded recently for a '08 XL1200C Sportster and he wishes he had gotten it in the first place. He's already got the chrome bug and is working extra to buy more stuff for it. When I put his Rush pipes on it, he almost fell out when I cranked it...Harleys with a good set of pipes sound like nothing else. The other guy with the Honda VTX is going to the HD dealer this weekend.
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Thanks for the info. I need to do some test driving.
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I have one of these and would highly recommend the line....
http://www.kawasaki.com/Products/Detail.aspx?id=274
Terror
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Looks heavy; where are the pedals?
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What kind of riding do you intend to do? I am not being sarcastic, just trying to get an idea of what style bike you might be looking for. Considerations are how many miles, commuting to work, weather, wind protection (dresser or not), price, reliability and so on.
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Difference between Dyna and Softail is latter's engine is also having a balancing shaft.
Having a Dyna myself and no problems with vibrations.
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Never ridden a Kamisuxi in my life and never plan to. :( Yes i misspelled the name on purpose!
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What kind of riding do you intend to do? I am not being sarcastic, just trying to get an idea of what style bike you might be looking for. Considerations are how many miles, commuting to work, weather, wind protection (dresser or not), price, reliability and so on.
I will ride only for pleasure and possibly a 6 hour road trip a few times a year. $13K is probably max for my budget.
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(http://www.motorbike-search-engine.co.uk/2006_Bikes/rocketIII%20%20classic.jpg)
Triumph Rocket III 2300cc of tire smoking goodness.
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Nothing wrong with the new sporties. The older ones, yes you got vibration. The new ones are rubber-mounted. I had a '06 XL1200C Sportster and had no complaints about vibration. I traded it in on a '07 FXSTC (Softail Custom) which has a frame-mounted engine but is internally balanced. Both are very smooth running.
If you like Harleys, I suggest getting one. Two of my closest friends recently got metrics, one a Suzuki boulevard and one a Honda VTX. Both are very nice bikes. The Suzuki got traded recently for a '08 XL1200C Sportster and he wishes he had gotten it in the first place. He's already got the chrome bug and is working extra to buy more stuff for it. When I put his Rush pipes on it, he almost fell out when I cranked it...Harleys with a good set of pipes sound like nothing else. The other guy with the Honda VTX is going to the HD dealer this weekend.
Bar Hopper <sportster>=Girls Bike :lol
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Bar Hopper <sportster>=Girls Bike :lol
Don't they come standard with matching purse and make-up bag?
Here's my ride....sorry, stock photo, will snap a few here in a minute and post for ya.
(http://www.bikez.com/pictures/suzuki/1998/659_0_1_2_vl%201500%20intruder%20legendary%20classic_Image%20by%20Suzuki.%20Published%20with%20permission..jpg)
1998 Suzuki Intruder 1500cc Liquid Cooled. Very smooth up to 110mph, then, a bit bumpy. Getting it out now that the weather is nice.
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Here is mine, real thing...
(http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj196/bustergrn/101_0511.jpg)
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Bar Hopper <sportster>=Girls Bike :lol
LOL I was wondering who would be the first to say that. Or paper boy bike....
I absolutely loved it when somebody said something like that to me when I had mine. When we hit the road I would get next to them and rap it couple of times just to prod them into grabbing a handful of throttle.....then walk away from them. Get to the next stop and tell them that the sporty has been Harley's street fighter since 1957. They rev harder, corner better and will dust most other aircooled HDs. I only had a stage1 on mine and I would pick the front wheel up in first and bounce it up in second. Stock, it's a 1200cc and only weighs 550 lbs. do the math. Not bad for a girls bike, eh? I took the ribbing in good humor, but some guys got pissed when I dusted them.
Though I have moved on to a bigger bike, I respect sportsters. Bottom line: they are still a Harley, made of all metal. No chrome-covered plastic. And the value does not tank like some other bikes as soon as you drive off the lot.
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Don't they come standard with matching purse and make-up bag?
Here's my ride....sorry, stock photo, will snap a few here in a minute and post for ya.
(http://www.bikez.com/pictures/suzuki/1998/659_0_1_2_vl%201500%20intruder%20legendary%20classic_Image%20by%20Suzuki.%20Published%20with%20permission..jpg)
1998 Suzuki Intruder 1500cc Liquid Cooled. Very smooth up to 110mph, then, a bit bumpy. Getting it out now that the weather is nice.
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Purse and makeup bag! LOL. Good one :)
More like a lunchbox. The sportster rider can eat a sandwich while he waits for you. :rock
http://www.bikez.com/motorcycles/suzuki_vl_1500_lc_intruder_1999.php
http://www.mcnews.com/mcnews/depts/ModelEvalSportsterPart2.pdf
Check out the performance specs.....and that is a carbureted sportster at that. The '07 and newer are FI and faster.
you know I'm just ribbing you back ;) Thats a nice ride you got there! :aok
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Uhm... Friend was accelerating from traffic lights with his 1200cc Sporty and I was hanging with him with just partly opened throttle with FXD; both bikes are having S-E exhausts, jets and K&N filters. I could had easily beaten him at the lights and at the cornering too.
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Triumph T-100 Bonneville here and love it!!!!!!!! :D 2007 btw
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cause it's almost a Harley?
lazs
No more likely cause its NOT a Harley.
My gal....Only a fuel pump gone out in 8 years.Ask a harley to do that.
(http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m141/Drs109/Shadow.jpg)
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Bar Hopper <sportster>=Girls Bike :lol
LOL halfa bike :)
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Nice Harley wannabe you have there DrDea.
My 2000 FXST has had no problems, and I ain't meticulous on maintainance.
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You're all wrong.
get a real bike, not a two wheeled tractor (twins? pah!). Then that 6 hour trip becomes a 3 hour trip.
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Uhm... Friend was accelerating from traffic lights with his 1200cc Sporty and I was hanging with him with just partly opened throttle with FXD; both bikes are having S-E exhausts, jets and K&N filters. I could had easily beaten him at the lights and at the cornering too.
88 cu in Fxd 1/4 mile 13.5. Carbed XL1200c is 12.9.
.6 sec faster.
You may have a newer 96" which would obviously have better times. It all really comes down to rider. Was he experienced? How much did he weigh?, etc.
Keep messing with Sporties.
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just curious.. why a V twin? Lots of jap bikes that are smoother and faster for less.
I am curious because I recall a honda add way back in the 60's that showed a gee wizz 4 cyl honda motor and a splattered in oil and dilatpidated Harley knucklehead motor side by side asking if you wanted to be part of the old outdated past or the gee wizz wonderful future. You would think honda would have flying cars by now...
Instead.. they (the japs) are all trying to build a V twin that sounds like and feels like a 1947 knuck.
lazs
Of all the Harley engines.
The Knucklehead has always been my favorite.
(http://www.totalmotorcycle.com/dictionary/photos/Knucklehead.jpg)
Dunno why. Just always has
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You're all wrong.
get a real bike, not a two wheeled tractor (twins? pah!). Then that 6 hour trip becomes a 3 hour trip.
Then the paramedics can clean up your remains by just hosing down the road instead of having to tediously pick you up part by part and place you in a tash bag LOL
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See, people always say that. The problem is bikers passing their tests and buying some 180bhp monster without learning to ride the thing properly.
17 years I've been riding now. Not gonna jinx myself by telling you how long it's been since I had an accident......
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If you have to travel at speeds that cut a 6 hour trip into a 3 hour trip I would strongly suggest doing it on a track.
Otherwise no matter how well trained you are.
your really nothing more then a future darwin award candidate.
Just because your well trained doesnt mean everyone or everything else that might be on the road is.
Even the luckiest craps shooter will tell you.
Keep rolling the dice.
Eventually your gonna loose
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I'll let you know when I do.
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If you want a BIKE talk to Jay Leno. :O :O
<----drool
Strip
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I'll let you know when I do.
You mean someone from your family will post your obit.
Btw, Japanese bike racer Norifumi "Norick" Abe was recently killed by a truck making an illegal left turn. Now you can't get more experienced than that.
http://sports.espn.go.com/rpm/news/story?seriesId=99&id=3063333
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yeah you can, race experience is totally different to real world riding experience.
It's these old gits who ride something pristine for one week in the summer and say "I've been riding for 30 years I have!" that annoy me. No mate, you've been riding for 30 weeks.
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dred.. always liked the knuck the best too..
Why do you guys want an imitation anything? Do you enjoy telling girls "well.. no it's not really a Harley.. it's like.. better than a Harley."
I don't want an imitation anything.. the japs make some neato and very fast sport bikes and cruisers that aren't (too much) an imitation of anything.. you don't need to make excuses for em.
Thats the thing.. I don't want to own anything that I have to say "no it's not a real one but it is just as good" or "its better than a real one."
sheesh.. they even try to make the emblems and stuff look like a Harley... badly done tombstone tailights and fatbob fenders.. its pretty disgusting really.
lazs
lazs
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See, people always say that. The problem is bikers passing their tests and buying some 180bhp monster without learning to ride the thing properly.
17 years I've been riding now. Not gonna jinx myself by telling you how long it's been since I had an accident......
I haven't ridden in over a decade but I rode a lot before that and even had to take a 3 day motorcycle course before the AF would let me ride overseas. I am experienced enough to know that every car is out to get you.
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Check your jap bike's specs.... you'd be surprised how many are naturally aspirated. The Harley has fuel injection. Jap bikes tend to be smoother around town but on long trips the Harley generally wins out. Resale value of a Harley will far outstrip that of a jap bike also.
That being said.... whatever you get have fun and be careful.
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he's got a point on the resale value.....
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I like Harleys but lately I have been seriously considering trading my honda shadow in on a Victory. 100 cubic inch engine's, 6 speed. And they are a lil cheaper priced than a harley
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LOL I was wondering who would be the first to say that. Or paper boy bike....
I absolutely loved it when somebody said something like that to me when I had mine. When we hit the road I would get next to them and rap it couple of times just to prod them into grabbing a handful of throttle.....then walk away from them. Get to the next stop and tell them that the sporty has been Harley's street fighter since 1957. They rev harder, corner better and will dust most other aircooled HDs. I only had a stage1 on mine and I would pick the front wheel up in first and bounce it up in second. Stock, it's a 1200cc and only weighs 550 lbs. do the math. Not bad for a girls bike, eh? I took the ribbing in good humor, but some guys got pissed when I dusted them.
Though I have moved on to a bigger bike, I respect sportsters. Bottom line: they are still a Harley, made of all metal. No chrome-covered plastic. And the value does not tank like some other bikes as soon as you drive off the lot.
yeah I had 1 guy say the same junk. Wanted to race pulled the light, I could see him doin wheelies in 1st about the time i hit second then 3rd he was toast. My bike wont do a wheelie. :rofl It does a nice burn out though :rock
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All my boys have asked me to buy them bikes. I told them: "Sure, for your last birthday. Just let me know which one you want it to be." They didn't get it. And then TxDad bought them bikes... I'm assuming to prove me wrong. They have fun anyhow.
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Its funny how the Harley guys don't like the metric bikes but the metric bike guys don't mind the Harleys. Has anybody noticed that every year the metric bikes are dumbed down to look like a more traditional Harley, and every year the Harley is more refined to look like a metric bike?
If one is going to buy based on performance, nobody would ever buy a Harley! Any Japanese 600cc bike will put a whoopin on a Harley in every aspect of performance. Face it, when it comes down to HP per C.I. or C.C. Harleys are outclassed. The only thing Harleys have is resale value, and looks.
Since I am on a bit of a rant, and I have the Harley guys attention, I have one more question. Why is it soooo cool to have straight pipes and no muffler? I ride off road, out in the middle of nowhere and I have to have a muffler and conform to a 96 db level (I have even gotten tickets for violating that), but some knuckle dragger on his Harley can blow the windows out of my house at 110db+, not cool.
Happyness is seeing a muffler on a Harley! And to you Harley guys that have mufflers...thank you :rock :salute
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See, people always say that. The problem is bikers passing their tests and buying some 180bhp monster without learning to ride the thing properly.
17 years I've been riding now. Not gonna jinx myself by telling you how long it's been since I had an accident......
Its not the bikers it's the ricerocketrangers.
This is pretty much the reason we have the F****** helmet laws now. Some punk 17 year old w no experience, goes to the bike store and they sell him the 12000 ninja rocket special and he dies shortly after with his little reflector suit on. 3 states still have no law the rest have a 18 or younger law ,except Maine 15 and younger, or all riders. Just as bad as the seatbelt laws. :mad: :mad: :furious
Ricerocketrage,
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Any Japanese 600cc bike will put a whoopin on a Harley in every aspect of performance.
BS :aok
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OK, I stand corrected, the Harley has torque over 600cc, thats all. Look at 0-60 times, 60-0 times, 1/4 mile performance, etc.
I agree on the Helmet laws, they suck, if you want to splatter your brains all over the road, then that is your right. I know that sounds sarcastic, but really, if somebody doesn't want to wear a helmet, then so be it. We do not need some goverment agency telling us how to live or die. Personally I wear a helmet, but I will be the last person to tell you to, same with seat belts.
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I will ride only for pleasure and possibly a 6 hour road trip a few times a year. $13K is probably max for my budget.
For what you want a cruiser is going to do fine. Brand is up to you. I personally like the Japanese HD clones particularly the ones with shaft drive in that category. HD will have better resale but will also cost you much more out the door. Reliability is vastly improved with HD, not that they had anywhere else to go but up. They are starting to approach the other manufacturers now in reliability. HD also has a very extensive dealer base making it easy to get service or parts.
My own bikes run to touring style, I have an 04 BMW 1150 RT. If you can find one, a really nice touring bike well inside your budget would be a Kawasaki Concours. Not the brand new one but an 06/07 where they were going for about $8k new fully kitted up. I almost got the Concours but the BMW had a slightly more relaxed upright seating position for me. With the 2 blown disks in my back that's important to me now.
Whichever one you get make sure you get some refresher or initial training like the MSF courses before you hit the roads on your own. It should help get you into the groove of riding.
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No more likely cause its NOT a Harley.
My gal....Only a fuel pump gone out in 8 years.Ask a harley to do that.
(http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m141/Drs109/Shadow.jpg)
You said 10 years in an earlier post..but we will not mention that. :)
I have a `60 Custom Harley chopper still going strong.
You just don`t see many rice burners of that age..........period.
I also have an `02 Harely Deuce.......................s weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet>
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OK, I stand corrected, the Harley has torque over 600cc, thats all. Look at 0-60 times, 60-0 times, 1/4 mile performance, etc.
I agree on the Helmet laws, they suck, if you want to splatter your brains all over the road, then that is your right. I know that sounds sarcastic, but really, if somebody doesn't want to wear a helmet, then so be it. We do not need some goverment agency telling us how to live or die. Personally I wear a helmet, but I will be the last person to tell you to, same with seat belts.
If I ever needed <if hell froze over> a crotch rockette, I would buy a Buell/HD.
Buy the way that is just the point. I don't need to go racing down the street at 150+ in my t and shorts with my sandals on, hutched over resting on my palms, on the most uncomfortable pos on the market, with my girlfriend on the back screaming "go faster Pee Wee!" and it is exactly those types that brought us the helmet laws.... and I don't plan on splattering anything. <knocks on wood>
Now... I might get splattered but all bikeriders have that option.
I would suggest from the picture that you posted AKIron and what you will use it for and $... a used Fatboy or a new Super Glide Custom or Fatbob 96 bout 13-14k. :cool:
http://www.harley-davidson.com/wcm/Content/Pages/2008_Motorcycles/2008_Motorcycles.jsp?locale=en_US&swfsection=family&swffamily=so
Buy American. :rock
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Agree on the Buell, sweet bikes! Barely a Harley, but one nonetheless.
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I can answer one question about why it is soooooo cool to have straight pipes and a Harley.
They allow bikes to "split lanes" here.
I am a pretty good driver.. I am an old biker too so have empathy. I also on occasion, drive a Lincoln Towncar to pick up my grand daughter. This is a quiet car that is great when you have to be stuck in traffic.. when traffic slows.. it is my nature to crowd the left side of the lane to see as far ahead of the blacked out SuV or minivan in front of me as I can. lots of people do this...
I have not yet killed a jap bike rider (BMW riders are too smart) but it has been close. no matter how loud they are or how neon.. You don't see em or hear em till they are past you.. only fortunate timing has saved their butt to this point.
Never.. not once.. has a Harley surprised me in this manner.. I can hear and feel em coming up on me.
lazs
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It is like this bergy.
Noise makes you 'visible' to those morons in their tin boxes yapping on their cellphones and oblivious to what is around them.
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Loud pipes are not a safety feature. Being able to hear them coming may be an added benefit, but their main purpose is to please the ears of the rider.
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I respect what you all believe, and I may start another thread on this, but I don't want to highjack this tread anymore than I already have. :salute
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Don't worry about hijacking the thread. Any motorcycle topic is relevant. I already know I don't want loud pipes though. I prefer not to irritate my neighbors.
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Its funny how the Harley guys don't like the metric bikes but the metric bike guys don't mind the Harleys. Has anybody noticed that every year the metric bikes are dumbed down to look like a more traditional Harley, and every year the Harley is more refined to look like a metric bike?
You've been around some twisted "Harley guys"
I ride a Harley and have for years. There are 3 HDs in my garage now....you could say I'm a "Harley guy". I like metric bikes. I also like euro bikes. I like all bikes. In fact, I have never met a bike I didn't like....but I have met some riders who were a@*&%@^s.
2 close friends of mine ride metrics, one a Honda VTX and another a Yamaha. I have never said a bad thing about them or any other metric to anyone. When they ride with us "Harley guys" on runs, all I have heard is positive coments about them. Just last weekend the Honda rider arrived with me to the rally point and a few of the 8 HD riders gathered around it ..."nice ride" was all I heard. (maybe it's a regional thing?) Alot of these new metric bikes are some sweet looking rides, good build quality, good reliability and ride comfort. The ONLY issue I have with some of them is the use of plastic parts like fenders, primary covers, etc. But that is an industry trend with cars now, plastic fenders, intakes, clutch pedals etc. I'm just glad HD has not gone that route....yet :pray Doesn't make any metric less of a bike though IMO.
No TRUE biker would knock another bike. It defeats the basic rule of the motorcycle community.....if you give respect, you get respect.
Please tell me exactly what model Harley is refined to look like a metric?
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Going to a Yamaha dealer this evening. The others close too early. Will have to wait 'til Sat to look again at the Harleys and others.
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AK, I found the perfect bike for you. http://www.bockscar.de/blog/index.php?/plugin/tag/tank
Don't let the Vespa put you off as no one will mess with you, be sure. :lol :lol
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Please tell me exactly what model Harley is refined to look like a metric?
Roundeyes, the Harley V-rod comes to my mind first as a more refined Harley.
Don't get me wrong, all bikes are cool, and I am not knocking what anybody rides and if you got that from my prior posts, then please accept my apology.
I am knocking the double standard of "I have a _______ (fill in the blank, Harley, Jap bike, etc) and my bike sounds cool without the muffler", meanwhile, other parts of the motorcycle community are getting hammered for noise pollution. Many an off road rider has recieved tickets ($150.00 and up)for going out into the middle of nowhere and being 1.5db over a sound limit with our bikes, while the rest of the motorcycle community can run down the street in front of our houses at 110+ db, and within the motorcycle community, that is acceptable.
So, if you want say I am disgruntelled, then I would have to agree, but I am not mad at the bike, but the thoughtlessness of the motorcycle community in general. I unfairley placed the blame on the Harley community as the biggest offender and as I write this, I realize that was wrong of me, for that, I apologize to the Harley community. I just get confused when we all fight together to try and stop helmet laws, but since the land closures don't effect the road guys (accept the ones that ride off road as well), they don't seem to give a sh#t and our trails get closed. Unfortunatly, the people who are signing these petitions only hear "motorcycle" they don't know the difference between a dirtbike or a Harley, or a BMW, just a motorcycle and the last one that passed them had no muffler and they came out of there skin it was so loud.
As many of you know we all are facing closure of public lands for OHV use, whether that be a dirt bike, snow mobile, atv, or truck (4x4). We (the off road comminity) are loosing riding areas. One of the biggest tools being used by the enviromentalists against us, is the complaints of "Noise pollution". Now while I have never seen a Harley out on a trail (somebody somewhere has done it lol), and I am 100% positive that they are not to blame. But the little ol'lady signing the petition to close the trails, knows how loud the un-muffled street machine ( RE:not just Harleys) is, and she wants to see them quited down, so she signs the petition. The next thing we know the off road guys don't get to enjoy there ride.
I too enjoy the song only a motorcycle can sing, all I ask, is to think of your community before you pull that muffler off.
There was a mention of lane splitting earlier, and I have no opinion on that, as the peoples republic of Oregon will not let us do that (makes too much sense), but the "loud pipes saves lives" theory has been debunked many times. The biggest threat to the motorcyclst is:cell phones, stereos, tvs, computers, illegal left turns, drunks, etc, so unless you turn your pipes around and blast the noise forward, there is no need to remove your muffler, as you are past the problem by the time that they here you (remember, these people don't hear trains, sirens, car horns etc either)
My feelings and opinions are just that, feelings and opinions, I respect yours, and you can do with mine what you feel is right. With that, let the flaming begin, but thanks for letting me get that out, it has been bothering me for awhile.
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No more likely cause its NOT a Harley.
My gal....Only a fuel pump gone out in 8 years.Ask a harley to do that.
(http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m141/Drs109/Shadow.jpg)
Why would a bike NEED a fuel pump? ---Notice location of gas tank vs location of engine :D Mine has worked fine without one for 46 years
(http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m248/bj229r/IM000140.jpg)
(http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m248/bj229r/IM000139.jpg)
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bergy,
No apology needed, bro. You didn't come off to me as knocking anything
I was just stating my view as a HD enthusiast.
As for loud pipes, I agree with you 100%. Harleys are the largest percentage of the loud pipe community. Why? Because they sound so good. Even a deaf man can feel the rumble of a properly tuned Harley. If you don't get a rise out of the "potato potato potato" sound, you need to see a doctor. Admit it, when you go to a drag strip and hear the sound of those open-headers on a big block, your heart races and your palms get sweaty. What about airplanes? Ever stand feet from a P&W radial engine at runup? (bring a change of underwear) Same way with a nice set of pipes on a HD.
Some folks are just redneck with them though, like screaming through a housing area at 2am which is a great way to inspire legislation to get the sound I love banned. I ride as respectfully as possible near housing areas. I do not buy into the "loud pipes save lives" theory completely, but to some degree it is true. The simple fact that you have noticed most loud bikes as Harleys tells me that the bike got your attention. Good. That means you see it. That means that rider has a lesser chance of getting merged into or rear-ended by you.
Don't get me started on losing off-roading areas. I sold my '03 Jeep Wrangler and my '87 Jeep Cherokee (both lifted). We have nowhere to ride anymore around here. The main reason was people mowing down trees, digging up the land and littering. Just being plain stupid. The noise offenders here? Trucks with straight pipes....100 times louder than a HD with drag pipes.
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bj229r.............Wow. Uh......wow. Pan head......Duo Glide.
kEy b0aRd SH0rtIng* oUt. dRooL.. '';;;;' :D*7777 :aok7?.. #^@]]
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Just got back from the Yamaha dealer. That 1300 V Star is a nice looking bike. Gotta wait until Sat to look at the Honda's and Kawasaki's. Then some test drives. Anticipation is sweet. :)
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Bj.. that is my point.. your bike is the exact same bike that the japs made fun of for decades.. now.. they are making really poor copies of it but.. they are reliable and easy to ride and maintain copies.. You didn't see women on panheads.
now.. the frailest woman can be a biker. I am not sure that is a step forward. It is not something I wish to be a part of.
lazs
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What do you have against this Lazs:
(http://www.hud.ac.uk/hubs/news/academic/images/women_bikers1.jpg)
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Hey Roundeyes, Don't get me started on the diesels with big open exhaust, LOL.
I too love the sound of a well tuned Harley, and it is truely music, but like anything, there is a limit to how loud it really needs to be. IMHO some of the best sounding street Harleys I have heard, have had a muffler on them. I am not asking for some huge hiddious can hanging of the side of your pride and joy, just a moddest little thing to take the edge off. ( Doesn't S&S make set that looks like straight pipes, but has a glass pack inside?)
Personally, I see a motorcycle first when I am driving my cage. I am a bike rider too, as you know we see traffic different from the rest of the world, so in the aspect of hearing the bike before seeing the bike, I have seen the rider long before I hear them.
Thank you for not flaming me also, I appreciate that. :salute
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My ride has straight pipes with baffles in them. If I want to be loud, I can be;If I want to be quiet, I can be. I guess it depends on your personal preference. Right now I run Python III's, they're shotgun style but are chambered to be more like a 2 into 1 pipe.
bj229r nice ride man.
I will post a picture of my ride if I can figure out how to work Photobucket..... :mad:
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swoop.. against the woman? nothing.. against women on bikes? different story. Have you ever seen what womens skin looks like after a bad bike wreck? I have. the scars are bad enough on us. I have had to explain mine enough times and some people are really put off by em. They are just sad to me when they are on women.
back when.. you had to kick the bike over to start it. If you were too drunk.. you couldn't do it. stone sober.. women couldn't... and didn't want to.. do it.
seems sensible that a gender so concerned about their looks.. so dependent on them.. should stay off of bikes.
That goes for metrosexuals too.
lazs
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Had a '69 Triump T120 650cc.. sweet, spoked. leathered...kick start. Amal carbs, Lucas the Prinnce of Darkness. Had a Love/Hate relationship with her...Lost Love when I sold her.
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Had a '69 Triump T120 650cc.. sweet, spoked. leathered...kick start. Amal carbs, Lucas the Prinnce of Darkness. Had a Love/Hate relationship with her...Lost Love when I sold her.
Had a friend that had a '67 (iirc) a long time ago. Biggest POS I ever saw.
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Had a friend that had a '67 (iirc) a long time ago. Biggest POS I ever saw.
Yup and BSAs were a bigger pain in the butt than hogs. Didn't have to worry about changing the oil for one was always topping up.
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Bj.. that is my point.. your bike is the exact same bike that the japs made fun of for decades.. now.. they are making really poor copies of it but.. they are reliable and easy to ride and maintain copies.. You didn't see women on panheads.
now.. the frailest woman can be a biker. I am not sure that is a step forward. It is not something I wish to be a part of.
lazs
Yah....sigh my wife has a Suzuki Intruder (she hates Sporties...<can't blame her>, and the Softail, which WOULD sit low enough for her, just costs too mmuch, even used)
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My ride has straight pipes with baffles in them. If I want to be loud, I can be;If I want to be quiet, I can be. I guess it depends on your personal preference. Right now I run Python III's, they're shotgun style but are chambered to be more like a 2 into 1 pipe.
bj229r nice ride man.
I will post a picture of my ride if I can figure out how to work Photobucket..... :mad:
It's got a jap Kehin carb and a belt drive....don't tell anybody.--If ya have a kick start, whatever carb makes it easy to start rules!
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It's got a jap Kehin carb and a belt drive....don't tell anybody.--If ya have a kick start, whatever carb makes it easy to start rules!
Why not a Linkert carb? The Linkert on one of my Brothers' 1947 Indian Chief works great. He rides it to work (40 mi round trip) on a regular basis. No starting worries from the carb.
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bj.. the best carb I ever used on a Harley bar none.. was the SU. It made the thing start on the first to third kick every single time.. no pops or farts.. smooth acceleration.. with solids and an andrews cam and gears it was a great way to ride. Put about 100k on that setup.
lazs
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Hehe. Ran a Mikuni for a while on an old Harley.
Had a hell of a time keeping it tuned. I knew a giant of a bro who ran one on his shovel, so I caught him at the local dive one night and asked him what the trick was.
He told me to fire her up, give it a good run till it was certain it was at top temp, set it level, then tune it.
He went on to say to do that every time you popped it off and you wouldn`t have any more problems. :)
I bought him a beer and bought me an S&S the next day.
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Why not a Linkert carb? The Linkert on one of my Brothers' 1947 Indian Chief works great. He rides it to work (40 mi round trip) on a regular basis. No starting worries from the carb.
I still have the old Linkert, but even with the rebuild kit, the jet was so worn out that the bike couldn't be leaned---it got about 25 mpg, and raw fuel poured out pipe....ate up a pair of plugs every tank of gas (the 10 foot flames out the back were damned impressive though :lol) Was a nightmare to keep running at any rate--also the Linkert has no accelerator pump...a few miles with the Kehin, bike seemed to have twice the power. If I had a few bucks I didn't need, I'd buy the smaller S&S, (or maybe the Bendix with dial-a-jet') but the bike runs ok, and I just can't justify the cost with so much other crap going on around the house
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Worked out a pretty good deal with the local dealer for this one. Think I'm gonna ride it home tomorrow or Sat.
(http://www.sidesconsulting.com/misc/VTX1300R.jpg)
http://powersports.honda.com/motorcycles/cruiser_standard/model.asp?ModelName=VTX1300R&ModelYear=2007&ModelId=VTX1300R7
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I still have the old Linkert, but even with the rebuild kit, the jet was so worn out that the bike couldn't be leaned---it got about 25 mpg, and raw fuel poured out pipe....ate up a pair of plugs every tank of gas (the 10 foot flames out the back were damned impressive though :lol) Was a nightmare to keep running at any rate--also the Linkert has no accelerator pump...a few miles with the Kehin, bike seemed to have twice the power. If I had a few bucks I didn't need, I'd buy the smaller S&S, (or maybe the Bendix with dial-a-jet') but the bike runs ok, and I just can't justify the cost with so much other crap going on around the house
I got a S&S Super G layin around (no accel pump either). What model Likert you got?
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Worked out a pretty good deal with the local dealer for this one. Think I'm gonna ride it home tomorrow or Sat.
(http://www.sidesconsulting.com/misc/VTX1300R.jpg)
http://powersports.honda.com/motorcycles/cruiser_standard/model.asp?ModelName=VTX1300R&ModelYear=2007&ModelId=VTX1300R7
Nice. If you are not too far away, one of my Bros has that exact same bike (red looks a little lighter) that he's looking at trading in. I know HD will not give him what he wants for it, so I'm sure he will end up selling it himself. Low miles, always garaged and well taken care of. Located in south Alabama. Let me know if you are considering slightly used. (save some $$$)
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Nice. If you are not too far away, one of my Bros has that exact same bike (red looks a little lighter) that he's looking at trading in. I know HD will not give him what he wants for it, so I'm sure he will end up selling it himself. Low miles, always garaged and well taken care of. Located in south Alabama. Let me know if you are considering slightly used. (save some $$$)
Thanks but I'm in Idaho. Not ready for that long of a road trip.
This is a new 2007 bike and they came off the msrp by $1,400 and no shipping or setup fee.
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Thanks but I'm in Idaho. Not ready for that long of a road trip.
This is a new 2007 bike and they came off the msrp by $1,400 and no shipping or setup fee.
LOL, that would be a stroll all the way from Idaho. Heck of a way to get used to a new bike. If you trailored it, you would spend the difference of a new one in gas (and then some).
Sounds like a good deal. Thats cool how they are working with you on price. More than I can say for HD. I'm Harley Davidson 'till the end, but thats one thing I don't like........the dealers will NOT move (much) on their prices.
Good luck and keep us posted :aok
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Drove it home Friday, a 2007 VTX-1300R, metallic red. Of course the weather got cold, it hasn't been much above freezing since. Still, I went for a ride with it lightly snowing today. Pictures eventually. :D
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Drove it home Friday, a 2007 VTX-1300R, metallic red. Of course the weather got cold, it hasn't been much above freezing since. Still, I went for a ride with it lightly snowing today.
Hehe. The Pocatello pucker. ;)