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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Mustaine on April 17, 2008, 04:09:05 PM
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http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,351608,00.html
Yale Art Student Claims She Used Blood Samples, Video of Self-Induced Abortions for Senior Project
Thursday, April 17, 2008
By Catherine Donaldson-Evans
A Yale student who claims she artificially inseminated herself "as often as possible" and then took drugs to induce miscarriages for her senior art project says she will showcase the stomach-turning display next week — complete with her own blood samples and videos from the terminated possible pregnancies.
The story of art major Aliza Shvarts' upcoming exhibit, which the Yale Daily News broke Thursday, has sparked widespread disgust and outrage.
"It’s clearly depraved. I think the poor woman has got some major mental problems," said National Right to Life Committee President Wanda Franz. "She’s a serial killer. This is just a horrible thought."
Critics on campus have said the display sounds like a shock-and-awe look at the highly sensitive issue of abortion and called it a sick stunt to get attention. The abortion-rights group NARAL Pro-Choice America also condemned the exhibit....
I don't even know where to start with this, other than pure shock. :confused:
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I think I just threw up a lil in my mouth...
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We reap what we sow.
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From searching on the Internet, it appears that just about everyone with the last name of Shvarts is from Russia.
You need to keep in mind that for a very long time abortion has been extremely commonplace in Russia. Much more so than even in the USA. In fact, even the latest figures that I have seen claim that it is still the #1 means of birth control in Russia.
I'm doubtful that any woman raised in the USA would behave like this. But perhaps my conjecture here regarding this is wrong. But it sure appears to me that there may well be a Russian cultural connection here.
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Shvarts....
:rofl
It's not a word if you can't use it in a sentence.
If shvarts, der date ist ober.
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Shvarts....
:rofl
It's not a word if you can't use it in a sentence.
If shvarts, der date ist ober.
What I want to know is this: From where did she get all of this semen that she used to impregnate herself so many times??
I mean, you can't just buy fresh semen from someone on any street corner, can you??
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I wish half of my co-workers had been aborted.
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Your question scares me Glok
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What I want to know is this: From where did she get all of this semen that she used to impregnate herself so many times??
I mean, you can't just buy fresh semen from someone on any street corner, can you??
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from later in the story, you should read the whole thing, some of it I wouldn't post here
Shvarts told the school paper that her sperm donors, whom she declined to identify, were not paid for their participation but added that she did require them to be screened for STDs.
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I am shocked the she could find so many willing participants to knowingly be involved in something like this.
Strip
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What I want to know is this: From where did she get all of this semen that she used to impregnate herself so many times??
I mean, you can't just buy fresh semen from someone on any street corner, can you??
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It depends....
Fresh semen is not as hard to get as you may think. Sometimes it's easy as going up to someone and asking, "Do you have any fresh semen laying around?"
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It depends....
Fresh semen is not as hard to get as you may think. Sometimes it's easy as going up to someone and asking, "Do you have any fresh semen laying around?"
Jesus, I must live in one hell of a clean place.
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I just read this on another forum. Hopefully she will abort herself VERY soon. Stupid Sick frikin B****...and the people who go to see it...same deal.
How in the F can this be art is beyond me.....but...I'm sure there will be some here that think she is just a ground breaking artist with forsight and creativity.
Maybe she'll die soon....like this weekend.
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The real shocking thing is I am not shocked by this in today`s world.
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It depends....
Fresh semen is not as hard to get as you may think. Sometimes it's easy as going up to someone and asking, "Do you have any fresh semen laying around?"
LOL and if shes cute with a nice body ill giver her some!
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It's not a word if you can't use it in a sentence.
If shvarts, der date ist ober.
Dang, I feel badly for having laughed so hard about that, seeing as this gal's really doing something horrible.
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The article states that it was all "creative fiction"....she didn't actually do the things she claims she did.
Still, she's one sick individual.
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The article states that it was all "creative fiction"....she didn't actually do the things she claims she did.
Still, she's one sick individual.
Where did I miss the creative fiction? In this article...I don't see it and she doesnt say that.
http://yaledailynews.com/story.html
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Where did I miss the creative fiction? In this article...I don't see it and she doesnt say that.
http://yaledailynews.com/story.html
re-click my original foxnews.com link, it has changed, the entire text and some of the "details" of the original.
:rolleyes:
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:rofl - "suckers."
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she needs to be sentenced to a mental institution for life.
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More links about the "creative fiction":
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/warner-todd-huston/2008/04/17/yale-students-abortion-art-claim-scam (http://newsbusters.org/blogs/warner-todd-huston/2008/04/17/yale-students-abortion-art-claim-scam)
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5hvahaxQa3oRSJqBeqVTY3oJlGJMQD903VVSO0 (http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5hvahaxQa3oRSJqBeqVTY3oJlGJMQD903VVSO0)
http://urbanlegends.about.com/b/2008/04/17/aliza-shvarts-abortion-art-project-a-creative-fiction-yale-says.htm (http://urbanlegends.about.com/b/2008/04/17/aliza-shvarts-abortion-art-project-a-creative-fiction-yale-says.htm)
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she needs to be sentenced to a mental institution for life.
that's the nicest thing I could say about this all.
I still think Jay said it best.
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Well I stand corrected...glad she didnt actually do all that...BUT....still a sick so and so to think up that stuff.
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*shudders* i never know today what is fiction and what is fact.... some things i grew up believing were beyond accepable human behavior are today, commonplace. I am so glad this was not real.... but what motivates.... ummm nevermind...
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That's just (Edited on rereading for better judgement) up.
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"Where exactly DID you lose your soul young lady?"
"Ah that's easy, cheer-leading camp!"
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"She’s a serial killer."
LOL, speaking of crazy.
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now she's saying it's real again
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,351730,00.html
I'll quote the whole thing so they can't "edit" the story again:
Yale Student Insists 'Abortion Art' Project Is Real, Despite University's Claims of 'Creative Fiction'
Friday, April 18, 2008
By Catherine Donaldson-Evans
A Yale University student who touched off a campus firestorm with her shocking claims of repeatedly artificially inseminating herself and then inducing miscarriages as part of an art project stood by her story Friday, despite statements from the university that her version of events is "creative fiction."
In a guest column that ran in Friday's Yale Daily News — which first reported her claims in Thursday's edition — senior art major Aliza Shvarts maintained that she had conducted artificial inseminations and carried out what she characterized as self-induced miscarriage procedures, though she never actually knew whether she was pregnant.
"For the past year, I performed repeated self-induced miscarriages," Shvarts wrote in Friday's column. "Using a needleless syringe, I would inject the sperm near my cervix within 30 minutes of its collection, so as to insure the possibility of fertilization.
"On the 28th day of my cycle, I would ingest an abortifacient, after which I would experience cramps and heavy bleeding. ... Because the miscarriages coincide with the expected date of menstruation (the 28th day of my cycle), it remains ambiguous whether the there (sic) was ever a fertilized ovum or not.
"The reality of the pregnancy, both for myself and for the audience, is a matter of reading."
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She reiterated that the display, which she herself drew attention to with a press release circulated Wednesday, was meant to provoke discussion about the link between art and the human body.
"This piece — in its textual and sculptural forms — is meant to call into question the relationship between form and function as they converge on the body," she wrote.
Click here to read Aliza Shvarts' column in Friday's Yale Daily News.
Yale officials disputed Shvarts' story, and in a strongly-worded statement Thursday night said the student told several high-level university officials that she did not do the things she said she did in constructing the exhibit.
Shvarts told Yale College Dean Peter Salovey and two other senior officials investigating her claims that she neither impregnated herself nor experienced any self-induced miscarriages, the campus newspaper reported.
"The entire project is an art piece, a creative fiction designed to draw attention to the ambiguity surrounding form and function of a woman’s body," Helaine S. Klasky, associate dean and vice president for public affairs at Yale, said in the statement sent to FOXNews.com.
"Ms. Shvarts is engaged in performance art. Her art project includes visual representations, a press release and other narrative materials. She is an artist and has the right to express herself through performance art."
Shvarts' campus phone has been disconnected, and she did not respond to e-mailed requests for an interview. While she did not explicitly mention Yale officials' version of events in her Friday column, Klasky told various media that Shvarts had indicated what she would do if the university contended her story was false.
"She said if Yale puts out a statement saying she did not do this, she would say Yale was doing that to protect its reputation," Klasky told The Associated Press.
The public affairs official also wrote an e-mail to the Yale Daily News late Thursday night saying that Shvarts "denial is part of her performance. We are disappointed that she would deliberately lie to the press in the name of art.”
Shvarts shot back at the school, claiming her project was “university sanctioned,” according to the paper.
“I’m not going to absolve them by saying it was some sort of hoax when it wasn’t,” she told the Daily News. “I started out with the university on board with what I was doing, and because of the media frenzy they’ve been trying to dissociate with me. Ultimately I want to get back to a point where they renew their support.”
Shvarts told the newspaper that her project had the backing of Yale's Davenport College Dean Craig Harwood, as well as at least two faculty members within the School of Art.
Yale officials didn't immediately respond to requests for a reaction to the column on Friday, but did confirm their comments in Friday's Daily News article were accurate.
Before the university contended that Shvarts did not actually perform the acts, the story about the project sparked widespread disgust and outrage, with critics characterizing the young woman as sick, depraved, unethical and attention-seeking. Advocates on both sides of the abortion-rights debate condemned the exhibit.
In standing by her work, Shvarts on Friday provided further details, saying she is the only one who knows how many sperm donors — whom she calls "fabricators" — she used and which herbal drugs she took to induce the possible "miscarriages."
"To protect myself and others, only I know the number of fabricators who participated, the frequency and accuracy with which I inseminated and the specific abortifacient I used," the college senior wrote in her Daily News column. "Because of these measures of privacy, the piece exists only in its telling."
Yale issued its statement several hours after the campus paper first published the story on Thursday, suggesting that university officials had taken the young woman's claims seriously enough to launch a full-scale investigation and question her directly.
"Her art project includes visual representations," said Klasky. "[Schvarts] stated to three senior Yale University officials today, including two deans, that she did not impregnate herself and that she did not induce any miscarriages. ... Had these acts been real they would have violated basic ethical standards and raised serious mental and physical health concerns."
Whether it's real or fake, the exhibit — which Shvarts has described as a large cube suspended from the ceiling and wrapped in layers of plastic that are smeared with blood samples from the purported miscarriages mixed with Vaseline — is slated to be unveiled next week.
Videos she claims show her experiencing induced miscarriages in her bathtub will be projected on the sides of the cube and the gallery walls.
"The most poignant aspect of this representation — the part most meaningful in terms of its political agenda (and, incidentally, the aspect that has not been discussed thus far) — is the impossibility of accurately identifying the resulting blood," Shvarts wrote.
The exhibit will be on public display from April 22 to May 1 at Yale's Holcombe T. Green Jr. Hall. Shvarts is scheduled to be honored at a reception April 25.
The young woman gave Daily News reporters a tour of her studio and a sneak peak at the footage included in the upcoming exhibit that has stirred such controversy. The campus paper published a photo of Shvarts at work.
Cullen MacBeth, managing editor of the Yale Daily News, declined to comment. Editor-in-Chief Andrew Mangino could not be reached Friday.
Before coming to Yale, Shvarts was a student at The Buckley School, a Los Angeles prep school for children in kindergarten through the 12th grade. She graduated as valedictorian, according to Buckley's Web site — which by Friday had removed archived references to Shvarts.
Buckley officials did not return calls seeking comment.
During her time at Yale, Shvarts penned an essay about getting her period for the first time in 1999, which was posted on a site called My Little Red Book with girls' writings about the experience.
She also apparently constructed an art installation addressing the same subject as part of a series she called "Disarticulation." Both her written and art pieces about menstruation are titled "The Ming Period."
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:rofl
ming period.
:rofl
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i think it's crap personally, but then, i can't help but chuckle a little when i see the venom that riles from the depths when such things occur.
it's like clockwork.
and people fall for it every time.
(we all go there in our own varying degrees of course.)
art is part promotion and i suppose that too is an art.
here's how i see it. it's a rock album with some titties on it in the 70's. some uproar. a senate hearing, world moves on.
art is subjective.
while it amazes me that there are people who might actually buy into it, it amazes me more how many do so by "not buying into it" with such great passion. not that i don't understand the desire to crush it, i do...but i have grown to allow it. the lines that it crosses say more about her world than mine. i just don't relate. and i don't wish to. and i really don't think that many people do. it's a very small audience without the uproar.
to oppose it violently only serves to validate it in a way, i think. let time crush her.
only the least number of moral compasses are aligned this way really . i'm pretty sure of this.
so...
our children are safe. we needn't fear its reach. but we might pray it doesn't come again to waste the power of our brains.
my 2.
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Most people getting all hot and bothered by this look like the human version of BSODs.
DOES NOT COMPUTE - DOES NOT COMPUTE ad nauseam
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Not terribly hot and bothered, but 'tis still ****** up.
Just the fax maa'm
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She is eminently ignorable.