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Offline texasmom

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Re: Words fail me :(
« Reply #15 on: April 17, 2008, 08:16:06 PM »
It's not a word if you can't use it in a sentence.
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Dang, I feel badly for having laughed so hard about that, seeing as this gal's really doing something horrible.
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Re: Words fail me :(
« Reply #16 on: April 17, 2008, 08:32:25 PM »
The article states that it was all "creative fiction"....she didn't actually do the things she claims she did.

Still, she's one sick individual.

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Re: Words fail me :(
« Reply #17 on: April 17, 2008, 09:51:22 PM »
The article states that it was all "creative fiction"....she didn't actually do the things she claims she did.

Still, she's one sick individual.
Where did I miss the creative fiction? In this article...I don't see it and she doesnt say that.

http://yaledailynews.com/story.html



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Re: Words fail me :(
« Reply #18 on: April 17, 2008, 10:01:58 PM »
Where did I miss the creative fiction? In this article...I don't see it and she doesnt say that.

http://yaledailynews.com/story.html





re-click my original foxnews.com link, it has changed, the entire text and some of the "details" of the original.

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Re: Words fail me :(
« Reply #19 on: April 17, 2008, 10:10:24 PM »
 :rofl - "suckers."

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Re: Words fail me :(
« Reply #20 on: April 17, 2008, 10:21:34 PM »
she needs to be sentenced to a mental institution for life.
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Re: Words fail me :(
« Reply #22 on: April 17, 2008, 10:37:02 PM »
she needs to be sentenced to a mental institution for life.
that's the nicest thing I could say about this all.


I still think Jay said it best.

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Re: Words fail me :(
« Reply #23 on: April 17, 2008, 10:37:15 PM »
Well I stand corrected...glad she didnt actually do all that...BUT....still a sick so and so to think up that stuff.
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Re: Words fail me :(
« Reply #24 on: April 17, 2008, 11:04:43 PM »
*shudders*  i never know today what is fiction and what is fact.... some things i grew up believing were beyond accepable human behavior are today, commonplace.  I am so glad this was not real.... but what motivates.... ummm nevermind...
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Re: Words fail me :(
« Reply #25 on: April 18, 2008, 04:28:38 AM »
That's just (Edited on rereading for better judgement) up.
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Re: Words fail me :(
« Reply #26 on: April 18, 2008, 06:01:03 AM »
"Where exactly DID you lose your soul young lady?"
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Re: Words fail me :(
« Reply #27 on: April 18, 2008, 09:04:31 AM »
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"She’s a serial killer."
LOL, speaking of crazy.
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Re: Words fail me :(
« Reply #28 on: April 18, 2008, 01:03:59 PM »
now she's saying it's real again

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,351730,00.html

I'll quote the whole thing so they can't "edit" the story again:

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Yale Student Insists 'Abortion Art' Project Is Real, Despite University's Claims of 'Creative Fiction'

Friday, April 18, 2008

By Catherine Donaldson-Evans

A Yale University student who touched off a campus firestorm with her shocking claims of repeatedly artificially inseminating herself and then inducing miscarriages as part of an art project stood by her story Friday, despite statements from the university that her version of events is "creative fiction."

In a guest column that ran in Friday's Yale Daily News — which first reported her claims in Thursday's edition — senior art major Aliza Shvarts maintained that she had conducted artificial inseminations and carried out what she characterized as self-induced miscarriage procedures, though she never actually knew whether she was pregnant.

"For the past year, I performed repeated self-induced miscarriages," Shvarts wrote in Friday's column. "Using a needleless syringe, I would inject the sperm near my cervix within 30 minutes of its collection, so as to insure the possibility of fertilization.

"On the 28th day of my cycle, I would ingest an abortifacient, after which I would experience cramps and heavy bleeding. ... Because the miscarriages coincide with the expected date of menstruation (the 28th day of my cycle), it remains ambiguous whether the there (sic) was ever a fertilized ovum or not.

"The reality of the pregnancy, both for myself and for the audience, is a matter of reading."
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She reiterated that the display, which she herself drew attention to with a press release circulated Wednesday, was meant to provoke discussion about the link between art and the human body.

"This piece — in its textual and sculptural forms — is meant to call into question the relationship between form and function as they converge on the body," she wrote.

Click here to read Aliza Shvarts' column in Friday's Yale Daily News.

Yale officials disputed Shvarts' story, and in a strongly-worded statement Thursday night said the student told several high-level university officials that she did not do the things she said she did in constructing the exhibit.

Shvarts told Yale College Dean Peter Salovey and two other senior officials investigating her claims that she neither impregnated herself nor experienced any self-induced miscarriages, the campus newspaper reported.

"The entire project is an art piece, a creative fiction designed to draw attention to the ambiguity surrounding form and function of a woman’s body," Helaine S. Klasky, associate dean and vice president for public affairs at Yale, said in the statement sent to FOXNews.com.

"Ms. Shvarts is engaged in performance art. Her art project includes visual representations, a press release and other narrative materials. She is an artist and has the right to express herself through performance art."

Shvarts' campus phone has been disconnected, and she did not respond to e-mailed requests for an interview. While she did not explicitly mention Yale officials' version of events in her Friday column, Klasky told various media that Shvarts had indicated what she would do if the university contended her story was false.

"She said if Yale puts out a statement saying she did not do this, she would say Yale was doing that to protect its reputation," Klasky told The Associated Press.

The public affairs official also wrote an e-mail to the Yale Daily News late Thursday night saying that Shvarts "denial is part of her performance. We are disappointed that she would deliberately lie to the press in the name of art.”

Shvarts shot back at the school, claiming her project was “university sanctioned,” according to the paper.

“I’m not going to absolve them by saying it was some sort of hoax when it wasn’t,” she told the Daily News. “I started out with the university on board with what I was doing, and because of the media frenzy they’ve been trying to dissociate with me. Ultimately I want to get back to a point where they renew their support.”

Shvarts told the newspaper that her project had the backing of Yale's Davenport College Dean Craig Harwood, as well as at least two faculty members within the School of Art.

Yale officials didn't immediately respond to requests for a reaction to the column on Friday, but did confirm their comments in Friday's Daily News article were accurate.

Before the university contended that Shvarts did not actually perform the acts, the story about the project sparked widespread disgust and outrage, with critics characterizing the young woman as sick, depraved, unethical and attention-seeking. Advocates on both sides of the abortion-rights debate condemned the exhibit.

In standing by her work, Shvarts on Friday provided further details, saying she is the only one who knows how many sperm donors — whom she calls "fabricators" — she used and which herbal drugs she took to induce the possible "miscarriages."

"To protect myself and others, only I know the number of fabricators who participated, the frequency and accuracy with which I inseminated and the specific abortifacient I used," the college senior wrote in her Daily News column. "Because of these measures of privacy, the piece exists only in its telling."

Yale issued its statement several hours after the campus paper first published the story on Thursday, suggesting that university officials had taken the young woman's claims seriously enough to launch a full-scale investigation and question her directly.

"Her art project includes visual representations," said Klasky. "[Schvarts] stated to three senior Yale University officials today, including two deans, that she did not impregnate herself and that she did not induce any miscarriages. ... Had these acts been real they would have violated basic ethical standards and raised serious mental and physical health concerns."

Whether it's real or fake, the exhibit — which Shvarts has described as a large cube suspended from the ceiling and wrapped in layers of plastic that are smeared with blood samples from the purported miscarriages mixed with Vaseline — is slated to be unveiled next week.

Videos she claims show her experiencing induced miscarriages in her bathtub will be projected on the sides of the cube and the gallery walls.

"The most poignant aspect of this representation — the part most meaningful in terms of its political agenda (and, incidentally, the aspect that has not been discussed thus far) — is the impossibility of accurately identifying the resulting blood," Shvarts wrote.

The exhibit will be on public display from April 22 to May 1 at Yale's Holcombe T. Green Jr. Hall. Shvarts is scheduled to be honored at a reception April 25.

The young woman gave Daily News reporters a tour of her studio and a sneak peak at the footage included in the upcoming exhibit that has stirred such controversy. The campus paper published a photo of Shvarts at work.

Cullen MacBeth, managing editor of the Yale Daily News, declined to comment. Editor-in-Chief Andrew Mangino could not be reached Friday.

Before coming to Yale, Shvarts was a student at The Buckley School, a Los Angeles prep school for children in kindergarten through the 12th grade. She graduated as valedictorian, according to Buckley's Web site — which by Friday had removed archived references to Shvarts.

Buckley officials did not return calls seeking comment.

During her time at Yale, Shvarts penned an essay about getting her period for the first time in 1999, which was posted on a site called My Little Red Book with girls' writings about the experience.

She also apparently constructed an art installation addressing the same subject as part of a series she called "Disarticulation." Both her written and art pieces about menstruation are titled "The Ming Period."
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Re: Words fail me :(
« Reply #29 on: April 18, 2008, 01:05:04 PM »
 :rofl

ming period.

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