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Title: WW1
Post by: Cajunn on April 18, 2008, 02:15:23 AM
I'd like to see a WW1 version of AH
Title: Re: WW1
Post by: LCCajun on April 18, 2008, 05:00:50 AM
Don't mind him he just drank to much swamp water  :D. I have to agree that would be cool.
Title: Re: WW1
Post by: Larry on April 18, 2008, 08:00:23 AM
DoA...
Title: Re: WW1
Post by: Cajunn on April 18, 2008, 12:43:30 PM
thanks LC.....

it would be cool to dogfight in the planes that started it all!
Title: Re: WW1
Post by: Spikes on April 18, 2008, 12:49:06 PM
thanks LC.....

it would be cool to dogfight in the planes that started it all!
There is a WWI flying game out there. I forgot what it was called.
Title: Re: WW1
Post by: RMrider on April 18, 2008, 06:35:26 PM
eh, there are a few out there, but none compare to AH.

I agree a WWI version would be cool.  :aok
Title: Re: WW1
Post by: Masherbrum on April 18, 2008, 06:46:22 PM
If HTC brought a WWI Arena online, I'd never fly in the WWII arenas.   
Title: Re: WW1
Post by: BaldEagl on April 18, 2008, 06:48:26 PM
I'd go there.  WWI was a fun distraction in AW.
Title: Re: WW1
Post by: Impakt on April 18, 2008, 07:06:34 PM
Trust me DoA = Dawn of Boredom----the truth is WWII aircraft---excluding the first jets---are a technologically perfect point for an interesting flight sim. Any earlier and the firepower impotence, the AC fragility, the slow speeds make for a yawner; any later, and the boredom of Jet warfare sets in.
Title: Re: WW1
Post by: DPQ5 on April 18, 2008, 07:23:37 PM
yeah a ww1 version would be nice, flying planes that can turn tighter then zeros
Title: Re: WW1
Post by: 50CalDr on April 18, 2008, 07:52:45 PM
WW 1 would get my vote  :aok
Title: Re: WW1
Post by: WOOD1 on April 18, 2008, 10:08:36 PM
AW had a WWI arena and a Korean arena, and they were usually empty.
Title: Re: WW1
Post by: Major552 on April 18, 2008, 11:22:40 PM
I think the WW1 game is the flyboys squadron,I think thats what its called
 

Title: Re: WW1
Post by: angelsandair on April 19, 2008, 05:38:42 PM
err... Well, hey, new planes and what not.  :D

IN
Title: Re: WW1
Post by: Motherland on April 19, 2008, 06:50:21 PM
Spanish Civil War! I-16's take off from Republican air feilds to combat the Ju.52's and He.111's, Ar.68's and Bf109C's of Germany's Condor Legion! Love it.
Title: Re: WW1
Post by: Spikes on April 19, 2008, 07:05:16 PM
Would be funny to see someone make a offline mission Me262 vs. Fokker Triplane.
Title: Re: WW1
Post by: Relorian on April 20, 2008, 01:03:08 AM
Im all for a WW1 AW arena. I honestly would even consider comming back sooner than planned for it.
Title: Re: WW1
Post by: moot on April 20, 2008, 01:43:12 AM
Interesting novelty, but ultimately boring.  Gun fighting in jets and maximum performance props are what will end up getting the most people turned on.  Fire & forget missiles and snail paced biplanes are the boundaries of fun dogfighting's realm.
Title: Re: WW1
Post by: Ghosth on April 20, 2008, 07:41:18 AM
Well we know it can be done, it was called DOA over in WB land.

Problem is there really are not enough WWI fans out there to pay back the costs with producing and maintaining a WWII setup.
I'd be all in favor of it myself, use AH engine, with WWI planes and some cool terrains (which I know are possible)

But ok for the heck of it lets say Hitech and CO put everything else on the back burner for 6 months to do this.
Is there a huge untapped pool of WWI pilots out there who will sign up and pay back this huge investment?

Because if there is I haven't seen it.
I'd love to see a WWI arena here in AH, I have some very fond memorys of good days in DOA, Flying Circus, Red Baron, etc.

But I just don't see enough people willing to pay for it.

And before someone says targetware, and RS, I went back and looked at the targetware site.
No new news on the big release they were expecting since 2005.
Other than small changes to mods, they have basicly been sitting there for the last 3 - 4 years with no changes.

Your paying 15$ a month now for AH, would you pay another 30$ a month for a WWI sim?
If so how many others do you think would do likewise? 50? 100?

To make it fly you'd need thousands.
Title: Re: WW1
Post by: chase4 on April 20, 2008, 08:26:36 AM
A WW1 arena and a korean arena to replace early war  :t
Title: Re: WW1
Post by: Impakt on April 20, 2008, 08:51:45 AM
Quote
Would be funny to see someone make a offline mission Me262 vs. Fokker Triplane.

No joke I was shot down by a Sopwith Camel while I was in F-86 in the P&D Arena in WBs. A squaddie (batbat)  and I were fooling around prior to an air race and I was zooming in on his plane head on, he pinged me, we collided, and only I died in colli---so he got the kill. :o :o :o

 :salute :salute Impakt
Title: Re: WW1
Post by: BnZ on April 20, 2008, 09:58:06 AM
I cannot for the life of me understand why there wouldn't be plenty of takers for a great WWI sim. I mean come on, the Red Baron! Eddie Rickenbacker! Snoopy! ;)

Incredibly romantic period, and the quirks of the aircraft, if modeled correctly, would be half the fascination.
Title: Re: WW1
Post by: Saurdaukar on April 20, 2008, 10:53:00 AM
Interesting novelty, but ultimately boring. 

+1.  Great idea in theory.  Doesn't work in reality. 
Title: Re: WW1
Post by: moot on April 20, 2008, 01:50:52 PM
Mazz how'd you go from "sit down and (sierra tango foxtrot uniform) 5incher" to +1'ing my posts? :P
Title: Re: WW1
Post by: passssao on April 20, 2008, 02:28:28 PM
Just a Fokker Dr1 and a Camel will be enough in the dueling arena, or some type of fun event, give it a try
Title: Re: WW1
Post by: chase4 on April 20, 2008, 02:38:55 PM
People are saying that we would have to pay.  What HTC could do is after the CT tour is over is reset the CT war and then start working on a WW1 combat tour and then only make the planes available in say, the special events and the deuling arena?
Title: Re: WW1
Post by: Yossarian on April 20, 2008, 02:57:25 PM
It's a nice idea, but I don't think the average person (let alone the average flight-simmer) would find a WWI combat game too exciting of a proposition.  Granted, I have seen Flight Simulator 2004 squads dedicated to flying modern cargo and fighter planes (as an escort) across Canada in real time :O :huh.  I flew with them for mebbe half an hour in an F-15 before inventing 'engine failure' and lawndarting the nearest airport  ;)

But anyway, my point is that most people don't find the idea/reality of flying pixels very slowly to try and find an equally slow enemy to be overly stimulating, and for those that feel attracted to the 'romanticism' of it, I would like to remind you that it will only be as romantic as your opponent allows it to be - most people aren't going to yell "Good fight, chappy!" or "Jolly good show!" (yes I know I'm British) or "Danke, auf wiedersehen" (sp?) from the cockpit of their computer when you're out of ammo, they'll probably give chase and shoot you down if they can.

So, meh.  I personally wouldn't enjoy taking an hour to fly to the combat zone in a Sopwith Camel very much, and I doubt many other people would either.  I'll stick to my trusty Spitfire XVI, thank you.

<S>

Yossarian
Title: Re: WW1
Post by: blkmgc on April 20, 2008, 03:02:27 PM
Well we know it can be done, it was called DOA over in WB land.

Problem is there really are not enough WWI fans out there to pay back the costs with producing and maintaining a WWII setup.
I'd be all in favor of it myself, use AH engine, with WWI planes and some cool terrains (which I know are possible)

But ok for the heck of it lets say Hitech and CO put everything else on the back burner for 6 months to do this.
Is there a huge untapped pool of WWI pilots out there who will sign up and pay back this huge investment?

Because if there is I haven't seen it.
I'd love to see a WWI arena here in AH, I have some very fond memorys of good days in DOA, Flying Circus, Red Baron, etc.

But I just don't see enough people willing to pay for it.

And before someone says targetware, and RS, I went back and looked at the targetware site.
No new news on the big release they were expecting since 2005.
Other than small changes to mods, they have basicly been sitting there for the last 3 - 4 years with no changes.

Your paying 15$ a month now for AH, would you pay another 30$ a month for a WWI sim?
If so how many others do you think would do likewise? 50? 100?

To make it fly you'd need thousands.


The only thing that killed the thriving DOA community was iEn. But then again, its iEn, we see how they handle things. I remember weekly scenarios, flying with the AOD }i{ , and having a blast with a ton of folks every night.I'd even pay another sub for it if its done right.
Title: Re: WW1
Post by: BnZ on April 20, 2008, 06:50:11 PM
I set up some big dogfights in "IL2" with the biplanes and pseudo-biplanes available, and I it was fun.  The feeling of the dogfighting is just as "fast" as duelling in Spits, due to the fact that you are working much closer, 100 yards being about open fire range. Surely the limitations on plane speed could be overcome, putting the "frontlines" suffeciently close together, just like the way most fights invove flying only 25 miles in the MA.

I'm not saying that this is something we should put on HTC's plate, I'm just saying WWI doesn't nessecarily suck for flight sims. I'll be ordering OFF when phase3 comes out.
Title: Re: WW1
Post by: moot on April 20, 2008, 11:31:49 PM
It won't suck.  I'd love to have it, but it's doubtful it'll get enough people's attention to be cost effective anytime soon..
Title: Re: WW1
Post by: Saurdaukar on April 21, 2008, 10:26:42 AM
Mazz how'd you go from "sit down and (sierra tango foxtrot uniform) 5incher" to +1'ing my posts? :P


Sir, had I felt the need to offer some sort of derogatory and/or dismissive comment in response to one of your posts, I assure you it would have been far more creative and, dare I say humorous, than the above captioned, heterosexually-challenged (not that there's anything wrong with that) tactic of likening CV armament to the size of your cylindrical reproductive organ.  :D

(Think you may be associating me with a post I didn't make as I don't remember it and I usually agree with the majority of your opinions in here).
Title: Re: WW1
Post by: BaldEagl on April 21, 2008, 10:54:58 AM
I personally wouldn't enjoy taking an hour to fly to the combat zone in a Sopwith Camel very much, and I doubt many other people would either. 

You assume that the bases are so far apart it will take you an hour to get there.  In AW, the bases in the WWI arena were quite close together and it actually took less time to get to the fight than in the main arenas.
Title: Re: WW1
Post by: moot on April 21, 2008, 11:04:26 AM
:lol
<-- hammered but never enough for memory to fail
<S> Mazztard
Title: Re: WW1
Post by: blkmgc on April 21, 2008, 02:50:14 PM
You assume that the bases are so far apart it will take you an hour to get there.  In AW, the bases in the WWI arena were quite close together and it actually took less time to get to the fight than in the main arenas.

Was the same in DOA. Most fights only took a few minutes to get into. But there were some larger arenas for scenarios and events which also worked out excellently for their purpose.
Title: Re: WW1
Post by: Masherbrum on April 21, 2008, 07:24:29 PM

Sir, had I felt the need to offer some sort of derogatory and/or dismissive comment in response to one of your posts, I assure you it would have been far more creative and, dare I say humorous, than the above captioned, heterosexually-challenged (not that there's anything wrong with that) tactic of likening CV armament to the size of your cylindrical reproductive organ.  :D

(Think you may be associating me with a post I didn't make as I don't remember it and I usually agree with the majority of your opinions in here).
Ever hear of a period?    Holy run-on sentence Batman!
Title: Re: WW1
Post by: Coog03 on April 21, 2008, 08:01:17 PM
Lets fly FOKKERS!      :aok
Title: Re: WW1
Post by: Saurdaukar on April 21, 2008, 10:43:06 PM
Ever hear of a period?    Holy run-on sentence Batman!

And yet, grammatically correct.  ;)
Title: Re: WW1
Post by: 633DH98 on April 25, 2008, 04:30:00 PM
EAA Arena?  Give people the tools to make/modify their own aircraft flight models and test/fight them.  Imagine the performance of a piston engined fighter that weighed half as much thanks to modern composite construction. GeeBee-5 powered by a Wasp-Major packing a 25mm chain-gun.   ;)

This could be used to have others develop models of actual aircraft of WWI and WWII for future inclusion in the other Arenas after approval by HTC for authenticity.