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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: BaldEagl on April 20, 2008, 02:51:37 AM
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Tonight I was flying an La7 on one of those very very rare occasions (about my 4th or 5th time since 2001... BTW, nice plane. I can see why noobs like it). Anyway, I was on the Baltic map and V10 had just been attacked from the NE. I flew out past it as the last of the attackers were taken out by an LTAR and soon spotted a B5N, an F4U and another dot in front of, and slightly below me.
I waited until the B5N passed under me, then turned to aquire his six before the others got there but he turned and avoided my high speed pass so I climbed out ready to set up another pass.
The next thing I saw was both his friends augering/exploding in the water, then the B5N followed suit. They were all outside the 2K limit for me to get the proxies but it didn't matter as they never got the chance for another attack on the base.
Then that was it. They dissapered. No more enemys.
So what's the point in that? If it was a squad I'd be embarrased to be a member.
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Beyond coding feasibility, unfortunately.
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They were afraid of your La7 and did not want to attempt to fight? :huh
I don't know, Im at my desk at work right now. This is my weekend to work, I get every other one off.
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About a week ago I watched from the tower as six sets of lancasters about 10k up droped all thier bombs on the hangers of a field then one by one bailed out before thier bombs even hit.
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getoverit
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Why do you guy who have been in the game awhiles always feel a need to explain away the time you spend in a LA-7? :lol
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Buff bailers used to be a big problem a while back. Dont see as many of them now thankfully but its really annoying when you grab to their alt just to see them bail without attempting a fight. Nobody ever admits that they do it so i film it and review who it was so i can poke them abit on 200 ;). It used to be alot of that from a specific squad that mostly lived in EW/MW. Their usual defence when i confront them is that they lose points if shot down. I try to explain that they lose em when when bailing too and that they lose potential points for killing me, but to no avail.
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Why do you guy who have been in the game awhiles always feel a need to explain away the time you spend in a LA-7? :lol
because its a ride normally used by newbs and runners. With the odd exception.
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Why do you guy who have been in the game awhiles always feel a need to explain away the time you spend in a LA-7? :lol
It's the same as the guy who walks out of the Mens Room with a big wet spot on the front of his pants and says he splashed water on himself washing his hands :D
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It's the same as the guy who walks out of the Mens Room with a big wet spot on the front of his pants and says he splashed water on himself washing his hands :D
:rofl
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So what's the point in that?
To deny you the kills.
I had a formation of Lancs doing the same yesterday. It took off from A6 for some easy milk of the nearby rook strat (nothing wrong with that), while I was over the field. When I swooped down on them, the pilot quickly bailed, about 30 seconds after takeoff...
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I don't even take the time to play much anymore, and I've even noticed the "run away" or "bail" tactic, even in a potential one vs. one. My Yak is not that intimidating, especially in my inept hands. :frown:
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I don't even take the time to play much anymore, and I've even noticed the "run away" or "bail" tactic.
Personally, I see a big difference between "run away" and "bail".
If you are my enemy, feel free to use the performance envelope of your plane.
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I waited until the B5N passed under me, then turned to aquire his six before the others got there but he turned and avoided my high speed pass so I climbed out ready to set up another pass.
The next thing I saw was both his friends augering/exploding in the water, then the B5N followed suit. They were all outside the 2K limit for me to get the proxies but it didn't matter as they never got the chance for another attack on the base.
So what's the point in that? If it was a squad I'd be embarrased to be a member.
I'd be embarrased to overshoot the first merge and then have something as slow as a B5N get 2k away and miss out on a prox kill? Sorry, I'm failing to understand which is the lame part in all of this.
<S>...-Gixer
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I've had people run from my P39q....how lame is that?
Helm ...out
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I've had people run from my P39q....how lame is that?
Out of ammo? Low on fuel? Headin back to base for other reasons? Looking for other targets, like buffs, gvs or goons? Heading to support an attack on another base? Some cons friendly to you arrived at higher altitude? Plenty of reasons possible... easy and cheap to cry "lame!" :rolleyes:
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Unfortunalty, It sucks. They Ditch and bail suscessifuly just because they dont want to fight. shame
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Actually, it was an SBD but same thing.
I just didn't get it. The SBD is actually a decent plane and at least one of the others was in an F4U. It would have ended up being a 3 on 1 and even if I beat them all they still die either way so obviously they weren't afraid to die (protecting score).
If you're not worried about the death then why not fight it out and learn something and take the chance on winning rather than the sure death?
Like I said, it didn't bother me. My mission was accomplished by keeping the field clear of enemy's. I flew back to base, re-fuled and went out and got some kills on guys that wanted to fight so nothing lost on my sortie. I just found it curious.
BTW Max... that was funny! :rofl
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Actually, it was an SBD but same thing.
I just didn't get it. The SBD is actually a decent plane and at least one of the others was in an F4U. It would have ended up being a 3 on 1 and even if I beat them all they still die either way so obviously they weren't afraid to die (protecting score).
If you're not worried about the death then why not fight it out and learn something and take the chance on winning rather than the sure death?
Like I said, it didn't bother me. My mission was accomplished by keeping the field clear of enemy's. I flew back to base, re-fuled and went out and got some kills on guys that wanted to fight so nothing lost on my sortie. I just found it curious.
BTW Max... that was funny! :rofl
They were probably noobs that saw an La-7 and figured their chance of survival were slim to none and didn't want to be on the receiving end of the 24/7 verbal insults and bravado that plague the LW arenas ?
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If you are my enemy, feel free to use the performance envelope of your plane.
I see your point, and I can think of an example right off. I fought an F4U-1 with my Yak9U and it degenerated into a deck T&B. He of course got on my six easy enough, so I broke and ran from him with the intent of extending enough to turn about and come back at him. It worked and I sheared off his wingtip in a head-on. I let it go at that because I was dangerously low on fuel, and decided to RTB. He still kept his Hog airborne, I <S>'d him, wishing him a safe landing. Was a fun fight! :aok
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Out of ammo? Low on fuel? Headin back to base for other reasons? Looking for other targets, like buffs, gvs or goons? Heading to support an attack on another base? Some cons friendly to you arrived at higher altitude? Plenty of reasons possible... easy and cheap to cry "lame!" :rolleyes:
No, you know it happens way too often for it to be just those reasons.. And anyway, half the time, they turn around as soon as you're engaged and leave a big enough opening.
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No, you know it happens way too often for it to be just those reasons..
Sure, it doesn't happen not only for those reasons I picked. But people constantly cry things like "lame" just because they can. They just "believe" instead of knowing, rarely getting any facts in their way.
It's pretty boring cheap and lame all by itself. Almost everytime I have to break from a fight because Im low on fuel or simply a few more red cons appear on the scene and are dropping in, I read fancy insults about being a "lame runner" on Ch200.
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It's the same as the guy who walks out of the Mens Room with a big wet spot on the front of his pants and says he splashed water on himself washing his hands :D
But Maxy....it WAS water!!! :eek:
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It's the same as the guy who walks out of the Mens Room with a big wet spot on the front of his pants and says he splashed water on himself washing his hands :D
Perfect analogy. :D
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It's pretty boring cheap and lame all by itself. Almost everytime I have to break from a fight because Im low on fuel or simply a few more red cons appear on the scene and are dropping in, I read fancy insults about being a "lame runner" on Ch200.
Exactly what I was talking about ...
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It's the same as the guy who walks out of the Mens Room with a big wet spot on the front of his pants and says he splashed water on himself washing his hands :D
Thats why Hajo always walks around with his shirt untucked.
shamus
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It's the same as the guy who walks out of the Mens Room with a big wet spot on the front of his pants and says he splashed water on himself washing his hands :D
:rofl
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Running from people I don't think is all that bad if you have a valid reason. Sometimes I will have run out of cannon ammo in my K-4 and run back to base because I didn't have much firepower to kill another plane. People should think about things such as this before calling someone a runner.
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Perhaps. But perhaps there are time constraints. After you drop your bombs, there is no real point to keep going unless of course you need the points? Time maybe more important to them. They may be looking at getting a second wave as soon as possible, or launching the goons.
The three v 1 bail may have had nothing to do with the LA7. It might have more to do with the current situation and that time would be better spent upping from another base and making a different attack rather than participating in a 3 on 1 or continuing the one they started out on.
You just don't know. Can't take things personnally in this game or you might lose some of the enjoyment.
INF>
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We've all had pilots bail out on us just to avoid a fight....
If they're so concerned over score and don't want you to get a kill, make these changes:
1. You can't bail if your aircraft hasn't been damaged.
2. Crashing without another player shooting you hurts your score more than if another player gets a kill.
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We've all had pilots bail out on us just to avoid a fight....
If they're so concerned over score
They are not else they wouldn't bail (hurts score)
1. You can't bail if your aircraft hasn't been damaged.
So they just auger or rip wings
2. Crashing without another player shooting you hurts your score more than if another player gets a kill.
See above - they don't do it to protect their score because it doesn't work that way. If you fight or at least try to escape, you may die. If you just bail, you die for sure.
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Buff bailers used to be a big problem a while back. Dont see as many of them now thankfully but its really annoying when you grab to their alt just to see them bail without attempting a fight. Nobody ever admits that they do it so i film it and review who it was so i can poke them abit on 200 ;). It used to be alot of that from a specific squad that mostly lived in EW/MW. Their usual defence when i confront them is that they lose points if shot down. I try to explain that they lose em when when bailing too and that they lose potential points for killing me, but to no avail.
This made me think that they might be concerned about their score.
No argument is needed to say that they are concerned about your score.
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Thats why Hajo always walks around with his shirt untucked.
shamus
ROFLMAO!
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I don't even take the time to play much anymore, and I've even noticed the "run away" or "bail" tactic, even in a potential one vs. one. My Yak is not that intimidating, especially in my inept hands. :frown:
Don't worry I've been flying Spit 1's and P40E's and still have them run away. It's nothing to do with the plane, just most of them don't want to fight. It's the new thing these days..
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I'd bet that many of them are more interested in capturing the base they just hit than they are concerned about their scores. Putting myself in the shoes of someone who's ONLY trying to take bases, it makes real sense to get out of the plane as quickly as possible and get to the maproom before down times expire.
OTOH, if those guys really are worried about their scores then they understand so little about the system that talking to them is pointless. Either way I've learned to grumble into my coffee and move on to the next target.
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Thats why Hajo always walks around with his shirt untucked.
shamus
:lol
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because its a ride normally used by newbs and runners. With the odd exception.
And yet I always see far more runners in other kinds of airplanes. By far there are more runners in runstangs and run90s. The LA-7s Ive seen almost always turn and fight. The only time I run if is I have no gas to fight.
And I get a kick out of some of the names I see pop up in the marquee landing kills after a good session of running away. I guess landing kills is important to your score. :lol
Ill bet more noobs ride runstangs anyway. Not that any of you were ever noobs once.
I cant answer that Max. I dont hang out with those kinds of guys. Thanks for chirping in tho.
Yesterday I divebombed a base in a Jug to kill ords and went right into a Hornets nest. I ended up getting chased by 5 or 6 fighters. After about a minute I said to myself, "what the hell am I running for its only a cartoon airplane game"? So I turned and emptied my guns at everyone I could before getting kilt. Cause who cares?
So when I hear these pre-post, "I was in a Lghay-7 but almost never fly them", Im kinda reminded that Homo-Sapien, and then Storch, are basically herd animals and feel better when they run with the pack.
Well this is America, the land of the individual, so pump that chest out and jump into an LA-7 each and any time you want to. You aren't required to give legal disclaimers in the forum when you talk about them. If some of these guys want to look at your crotch when you come out of a bathroom then its on them. Alternative lifestyles are with us and theres nothing we can do about them.
As for the LA-7? You go dude. Join the rest of us and make these 20,000k alt/monkey cherry picking run dweebs sweat.
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So when I hear these pre-post, "I was in a Lghay-7 but almost never fly them", Im kinda reminded that Homo-Sapien, and then Storch, are basically herd animals and feel better when they run with the pack.
No such thing. It was simply a statement of fact which also allowed me to briefly comment on the plane itself, which I had no idea was such a nice plane (clearly superior to the La-5 which I fly somewhat regularily).
Having piloted 76 different panes/vehicles in the LWA's over the past six months and 24 so far this camp there were only 19 (now 18 which include bombers, chutes, etc.) that I hadn't scored a kill or a death in so I thought I'd add the La-7 to the list of those I had piloted.
I didn't feel bad about flying it. It's just that I rarely do.
BTW, I fly the Spit XVI a lot and don't feel bad about that either.
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Be glad some people go for a good score...Be glad people who dont care about there score want to win.. :salute to all my fellow aceshigh boys and girls men and woman who want to beat the odds or just want to win...Could u imagine if everyone did stuff like that wouldnt be worth playin
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1. You can't bail if your aircraft hasn't been damaged.
2. Crashing without another player shooting you hurts your score more than if another player gets a kill.
1.) Easily circumvented with a self-effectuated disco.
2.) Good idea.
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In EW you see that alot. I was in there over the weekend denying milkrunners. Was fun for awhile. Seems like a great place for new folks to get their feet wet though.