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Title: Macs
Post by: Raptor on April 20, 2008, 11:26:06 PM
So, why do you hate Macs?

I personally hate the way that people that own Macs act. As soon as someone buys an act they become an elitist and think they are better than you. Mac users look for ways to flaunt why their computer is better. You don't even have to be talking about a Mac and they throw it out there.
"I was eating outside today with Pawel and Haley when a  squirrel came up to us, I took a piece of bread and offered it to the squirrel and it took it from my hand and ate it"
"Oh really? That reminds me of this time I was at the park with my Mac, and I was sitting on a bench and I saw this other girl with a Mac and we started talking. I love Macs, it's like they bring us all together. You shold really get a Mac!"
"Well I looked up Macs and I can get a Dell laptop with a better processor, twice the RAM, 3 times the Hare Drive space and it comes with a 5 inch bigger screen, for the exact same price."
"Yeah but it doesn't run as smoothly as the Mac, the Mac just runs better and is more organized"

I swear, Mac users are in a cult!
Title: Re: Macs
Post by: SOB on April 20, 2008, 11:38:58 PM
Apple does a fantastic job of selling an image.  A lot of folks really buy into it, and a lot of people in general like to think they've got the best of whatever.  I haven't touched a Mac in a long long time, so I couldn't really comment on how well they work... though recently I'd be more inclined to try one.  But not enough to spend any more $ than I would building a PC.  So, essentially, I wouldn't try one.  Also, the retarded PC vs Mac commercials really make me not want to try them... the same way The Truth commercials made me want to start smoking.

-edit- On a side note... I filled in for a couple of weeks doing support for the Mac FCS at ThrustMaster while the Mac guy was out.  Never in my life have I heard grown men whimper so damned much.  Like when you tell your 5-year-old they can't have that toy they see on the way to the checkout counter; only I was telling adult males how to do something and that something wasn't done the way they were used to doing things.
Title: Re: Macs
Post by: REP0MAN on April 20, 2008, 11:41:58 PM
As soon as someone buys an act they become an elitist and think they are better than you.

No, we just know our computer is better than yours. :t

Raptor, I own 4. iMac, Mac Mini and 2 MacBook Pros. Also have the iPhone and three iPods. I guess when I found something that worked as well as all my Apple products do, at everything I need them to do, I had no need for any other. I would agree that some Mac owners see their computers as "Elite". Maybe it's because they are so danged expensive and these people use it as a status symbol. I buy Apple for functionality and compatibility; not because I have more money than anyone else or feel the need to make someone feel that way.

Don't hate Mac's for their idiot owners. Hate them because they will outlast that Dell you priced years over and look pretty cool doing it :D

:aok
Title: Re: Macs
Post by: moot on April 20, 2008, 11:51:22 PM
Fashion after function.
Title: Re: Macs
Post by: Raptor on April 20, 2008, 11:51:31 PM
<-- using a Dell PC from 2002 that I got for about $900. Performs just as well as computers priced at $900 today. Admittedly I have added RAM, a DVD Burner and a second hard drive over the years.
Title: Re: Macs
Post by: SuBWaYCH on April 21, 2008, 01:44:29 AM
All computers in my house are Macs, and 3 of them are Windows compatible.

Never had a problem with any of them.
Title: Re: Macs
Post by: Mr No Name on April 21, 2008, 05:47:08 AM
I am a linux user... Everyone hates me!   :lol
Title: Re: Macs
Post by: Vulcan on April 21, 2008, 05:55:38 AM
Don't hate Mac's for their idiot owners. Hate them because they will outlast that Dell you priced years over and look pretty cool doing it :D

:aok

that dell that uses the same components at half the price ;)
Title: Re: Macs
Post by: 1701E on April 21, 2008, 07:02:53 AM
Macs=too expensive...I could get 3 Windows computers for the price of 1 mac...even the $300 computers last a while.  I've still got a 2001 HP that cost $600 then, not worth $100 now, but still.  That old HP stills runs fine without any upgrades.
Title: Re: Macs
Post by: crockett on April 21, 2008, 07:10:49 AM
Funny you should ask..

I am unfortunate enough to have to buy a Apple, because I need to use this one specific program that only works on Macs. I've always felt the same way, about them thinking they are elitists or something. I dunno what it is, but I always think of the South Park "smug" episode when I think of Apple users.

With that said, I always believed the hype that Apples were supposedly top notch machines because well everyone claims they are. Funny thing now that I'm researching them, I find for the most part they are all over priced and under spec machines compared to a PC that cost the same.

I just built a high end quad core PC a few months ago and it cost about $1,600 to $1,700. For that price there is nothing that Apple offers that can come even close to matching my machine for anything close to that price range.

The "only" positive thing I can see that Apples have going for them, is their resell value. Apple updates once or twice a year and during that time the prices are fixed. So if you buy a iMac on day one of the current release, it will cost the same up until the day the new one is released. (sucks for those who buy just b4 a new release). Yes that definitely has it's draw backs but when you are ready to sell you will likely get more out of it than a used PC.

So my plan is to buy a refurbished iMac and sell it in a year (has a one year warranty) Then upgrade to what ever the current model is. Rinse and repeat as necessary until I no longer need to use the program or till it's ready to use on windows..
Title: Re: Macs
Post by: Nilsen on April 21, 2008, 07:23:56 AM
I dont hate macs. I have one and it works great even if its getting abit dated.
Title: Re: Macs
Post by: texasmom on April 21, 2008, 07:28:05 AM
I would agree that some Mac owners see their computers as "Elite". Maybe it's because they are so danged expensive and these people use it as a status symbol...
They're just like Starbucks.  Their coffee tastes like crap, but they'll always be around as long as there are a folks who would like to be seen sitting in their outdoor chairs.  But 7-11 coffee tastes better.
Title: Re: Macs
Post by: Thruster on April 21, 2008, 07:32:57 AM
"I dunno what it is, but I always think of the South Park "smug" episode when I think of Apple users."


Dang it Crockett, I was gonna use that reference.

Back when I first got involved in media production, the Mac was the only game in town. I remember an intern proclaiming "real musicians only use macs" in the company of a couple of fairly prominent players. One of them, an old guy who is one of the senior statesmen of the blues told him he'd been playing since the kid's grandpa was a boy and he couldn't even spell "mac".

Now pc's are in every studio worth mentioning and if I'm not mistaken even the graphics guys are using them. I'm not sure how it is in the post OS X world but prior to that, owning a Mac network was an expensive and frustrating ordeal.
Title: Re: Macs
Post by: bozon on April 21, 2008, 07:46:08 AM
Having a unix core is the best thing that happened to mac. I know a lot of physicists that use mac so they can run all their unix software on it. The other option is a linux machine (my choice) but if you do not want to fiddle with it and just want something that works, mac is the best option.
Title: Re: Macs
Post by: lasersailor184 on April 21, 2008, 09:00:04 AM
So, why do you hate Macs?

I personally hate the way that people that own Macs act. As soon as someone buys an act they become an elitist and think they are better than you. Mac users look for ways to flaunt why their computer is better. You don't even have to be talking about a Mac and they throw it out there.
"I was eating outside today with Pawel and Haley when a  squirrel came up to us, I took a piece of bread and offered it to the squirrel and it took it from my hand and ate it"
"Oh really? That reminds me of this time I was at the park with my Mac, and I was sitting on a bench and I saw this other girl with a Mac and we started talking. I love Macs, it's like they bring us all together. You shold really get a Mac!"
"Well I looked up Macs and I can get a Dell laptop with a better processor, twice the RAM, 3 times the Hare Drive space and it comes with a 5 inch bigger screen, for the exact same price."
"Yeah but it doesn't run as smoothly as the Mac, the Mac just runs better and is more organized"

I swear, Mac users are in a cult!

A friend of mine decided to get a Mac way back when.  The thing was down more often than it was up.  And since I was the computer savvy one of the bunch (I learned DOS and Windows 3.1 to revive an ailing old computer) it was always up to me to fix it.

I think I still have the same rage issues because of that single Mac computer.


Since then I've had annoying times with all other macs I've touched.
Title: Re: Macs
Post by: bcadoo on April 21, 2008, 09:07:01 AM
Don't know if this is still applicable. (but its still funny)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CrQjfgvqJQ 
Title: Re: Macs
Post by: bergy on April 21, 2008, 09:18:11 AM
 :rofl  bcadoo  That is funny. Thanks for posting
Title: Re: Macs
Post by: GtoRA2 on April 21, 2008, 09:45:15 AM
Stupid people need computers as well, and Apple fills that nitch.

That they happen to be smug jerkoffs about it just makes it better.
Title: Re: Macs
Post by: Jackal1 on April 21, 2008, 10:00:30 AM
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Title: Re: Macs
Post by: myelo on April 21, 2008, 11:15:21 AM
I would explain it but you're not smart enough to understand and I'm too cool to care.


Title: Re: Macs
Post by: AWMac on April 21, 2008, 11:41:15 AM
And here I thought this thread was about me....or me gettin in trouble again.

Mac
Title: Re: Macs
Post by: Raptor on April 21, 2008, 12:08:26 PM
And here I thought this thread was about me....or me gettin in trouble again.

Mac
You would think everything is all about you, Mac  :P
Title: Re: Macs
Post by: AWMac on April 21, 2008, 12:26:49 PM
Well I am...ahh ....Special.

Wait is this a trick question?

Mac

 :lol
Title: Re: Macs
Post by: whiteman on April 21, 2008, 12:27:42 PM
I'm a graphic designer and my choice is always a MAC over a PC. Most people do their work on a MAC and we never have trouble with our MAC's, PC's on the other hand have gone schizophrenic on us out of the blue.
Title: Re: Macs
Post by: AWMac on April 21, 2008, 12:34:51 PM
I agree I try to be the very Best... although for the most part I have never been so PC.  Yet I'm reliable and hard working.
It doesn't take much to "Boot" me up on a "Cold Start". But I do really well if left running.

~Mac~
Title: Re: Macs
Post by: MrRiplEy[H] on April 21, 2008, 12:38:29 PM
I use a macbook pro for work and I hate it. Everything in it starting from the retarded 1 button mousepad and bad acceleration curve is like sitting on shards of glass. It's slow, leopard eats huge amounts of memory while doing basically nothing and the list goes on. Even the screen resolution is bad, 1400x900.
Title: Re: Macs
Post by: Charon on April 21, 2008, 01:28:08 PM
I've used both PCs and Macs back to the DOS/Mac Classic days. I have always found the differences between the two in all key areas to be marginal to the point where the added cost and lack of game support are deal breakers for the Mac platform. Before the PC GUI era the Macs had a real selling point but that issue is long past. And at the time I could move around in DOS pretty well.

The Macs I've used have all developed reliability issues at various points just like the PCs. Bomb icon instead of BSOD. My windows XP install on my game machine offers a fine interface and was reliable for several years running without a hiccup. Security was once an issue but some slightly thoughful computing and a good (and free) AVS like AVAST maskes this largely a non issue.

And still, as in the beginning, we have higher cost and a lack of game support. I would have loved to "stick it to the man" many times over the years but just couldn't make the argument work. Perhaps Linux now that Vista is stinking up the place, but without better game support I'll just stick to XP anyway.

And, Bill Gates may be an evil overlord but Jobs strikes me as a smarmy ass.

Charon
Title: Re: Macs
Post by: Nilsen on April 21, 2008, 01:31:42 PM
I think the cost difference thing has been debunked several times the last couple of years.

Never had a problem with OSX
Never had a problem with XP

Havent tried Vista and dont feel the need, but i bet i would not have trouble with that either.
Title: Re: Macs
Post by: Charon on April 21, 2008, 02:01:35 PM
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I think the cost difference thing has been debunked several times the last couple of years.

Maybe if you buy systems for general use and aren't particularly picky about the specific components.

The last "system" I bought was my first computer in 1988. The complete/new computers I assemble tend to have considerably more performance than store bought systems for either platform for the same or (usually) less price. On the purely upgraded systems I own it's not even close. And unless I can easily load the MAC OS onto this mixture of components -- advantage PC. It costs me much less to get the same or greater performance (if that performance level is even offered by Mac) though Newegg. And unless MAC gaming is up to PC standards then, who cares? I ran run Office or surf the Web on a Pentium 3 running Windows 98 just fine. Who needs a new Mac or PC for that?

Charon
Title: Re: Macs
Post by: Raptor on April 21, 2008, 02:46:59 PM
I think the cost difference thing has been debunked several times the last couple of years.
Dell Notebook priced at $1099:
 Intel® Core™ 2 Duo T5750 (2.0GHz/667Mhz FSB/2MB cache)
Widescreen 17.0 inch display (1920 x 1200)
CD / DVD writer (DVD+/-RW Drive)
3GB Shared Dual Channel DDR2 at 667MHz
320GB1 SATA Hard Drive (5400RPM)
128MB NVIDIA® GeForce® 8400M GS
High Definition Audio 2.0
Dell Wireless 1395 802.11g Mini Card
56Whr Lithium Ion Battery (6 cell)

Mac Notebook priced at $1099:
2.1GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
1GB memory
120GB SATA hard drive @ 5400RPM
Combo Drive (DVD-ROM/CD-RW)

Both as listed on the store's website. A lot less technical information available listed for the Mac.
Title: Re: Macs
Post by: REP0MAN on April 21, 2008, 03:00:15 PM
Stupid people need computers as well, and Apple fills that nitch.

That they happen to be smug jerkoffs about it just makes it better.

I appreciate the compliment. As soon as I report the post back to the "Sect of Job's", I will have a witty retort. Please stand-by.

 :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Macs
Post by: Shuffler on April 21, 2008, 03:11:19 PM
Macs used to do graphics better..... that is no more.