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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: MajIssue on April 23, 2008, 08:53:39 PM
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As much as I enjoy AHII, the last two weeks make me wonder:
1.What happened to 1 big and 1 small map?
2.Why are we playing on maps that are as stale as 5 year old bread?
3.Why was the map not changed for Titanic Tuesday? Monday's Orange Arena was Tuesday's Titanic Tuesday... again!
4.Is it true that the staff is so lazy that all they do is shut down the blue arena, rename the orange arena to Titanic Tuesday and go home,Then rename the Titanic Tuesday arena back to Orange on Wednesday?
5.There are so many maps available for the arenas, WHY are we subjected to the same old map rotation... time after time after time after time after time after time after time after time...
With two small maps that everybody has seen over and over, you get alot of 20 on 20 furballs and not much else. big hoard vs big hoard... (gee I wonder what's on TV... Or where is that DVD of 12 o'clock high... or I wonder what the other WW2 flight sims have to offer)
How old is Baltic? (I REMEMBER IT FROM AH1!!) NDIsles? Uterus? OLD, OLD, OLD
As easy as it would be to add a little variety, it boggles the mind how a group of people can be either so clueless or lazy!
The result... a boreing experience and a reason to see what other options are out there.
As hard as it is to get paying customers, lazieness and complacency are the quickest and easiest ways to drive them away!
I love Aces High... but these old stale maps make the experience less than what I would expect from a company like HTC that has consistantly provided a high quality Combat Flight Sim that is more than a game...
I would recommend keeping these 3 maps out of the rotation for awhile and giving us a little variety!! PLEASE!
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You are out of order!If you have a complaint about something,you might consider taking a less aggressive approach.
IronDog
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donkey
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I agree. I think map selection and creation is the weak link in this game.
That and self appointed forum moderators.
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I agree. I think map selection and creation is the weak link in this game.
That and self appointed forum moderators.
Would you be so kind as to show me how I appointed myself as a 'moderator?'
I simply suggested that he not accuse HTC of being lazy multiple times. You, and everyone else knows they are hard at working keeping this game up and running as great as it is now. They simply don't have the man power to pump out CT, new planes, new maps, new gv's, new skins, etc, etc, etc all today or as soon as anyone wants them, and bashing the HTC team isn't going to help either.
donkey
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Would you be so kind as to show me how I appointed myself as a 'moderator?'
I simply suggested that he not accuse HTC of being lazy multiple times. You, and everyone else knows they are hard at working keeping this game up and running as great as it is now. They simply don't have the man power to pump out CT, new planes, new maps, new gv's, new skins, etc, etc, etc all today or as soon as anyone wants them, and bashing the HTC team isn't going to help either.
donkey
Actually I wasnt talking about you. Nor was I "bashing" anyone.
But since you brought it up maybe they need to hire new people then. When was the last time we had a new map?
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As much as I enjoy AHII, the last two weeks make me wonder:
1.What happened to 1 big and 1 small map?
2.Why are we playing on maps that are as stale as 5 year old bread?
3.Why was the map not changed for Titanic Tuesday? Monday's Orange Arena was Tuesday's Titanic Tuesday... again!
4.Is it true that the staff is so lazy that all they do is shut down the blue arena, rename the orange arena to Titanic Tuesday and go home,Then rename the Titanic Tuesday arena back to Orange on Wednesday?
5.There are so many maps available for the arenas, WHY are we subjected to the same old map rotation... time after time after time after time after time after time after time after time...
With two small maps that everybody has seen over and over, you get alot of 20 on 20 furballs and not much else. big hoard vs big hoard... (gee I wonder what's on TV... Or where is that DVD of 12 o'clock high... or I wonder what the other WW2 flight sims have to offer)
How old is Baltic? (I REMEMBER IT FROM AH1!!) NDIsles? Uterus? OLD, OLD, OLD
As easy as it would be to add a little variety, it boggles the mind how a group of people can be either so clueless or lazy!
The result... a boreing experience and a reason to see what other options are out there.
As hard as it is to get paying customers, lazieness and complacency are the quickest and easiest ways to drive them away!
I love Aces High... but these old stale maps make the experience less than what I would expect from a company like HTC that has consistantly provided a high quality Combat Flight Sim that is more than a game...
I would recommend keeping these 3 maps out of the rotation for awhile and giving us a little variety!! PLEASE!
:aok
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The maps in question are not good. Never have been and never will be.
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First off, that's my bad. I should have been more specific, as I didn't intend for you to think that I thought you were bashing HTC, as you weren't.
Actually I wasnt talking about you. Nor was I "bashing" anyone.
It's sort of hard to tell that when you pluralized 'moderators,' especially when two people posted above you (IronDog and myself).
I agree. I think map selection and creation is the weak link in this game.
That and self appointed forum moderators.
Actually I wasnt talking about you. Nor was I "bashing" anyone.
But since you brought it up maybe they need to hire new people then. When was the last time we had a new map?
But since you brought it up maybe they need to hire new people then. When was the last time we had a new map?
Taken from the "About Us" tab.
Contrary to most companies, our goal is to keep the company small. We know that with a singular focus and an experienced cohesive team that enjoys its work, the production, service, support, and overall level of satisfaction will be unmatched.
Who knows, but perhaps HTC has filled their quota of employees, and doesn't want to hire anymore. You might say that your (in general, not necessarily you) overall level of satisfaction isn't unmatched because of stale maps, but I beg someone to show me a Flight Experience that approaches half of what AHII is.
donkey
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5.There are so many maps available for the arenas, WHY are we subjected to the same old map rotation... time after time after time after time after time after time after time after time...
and you keep sending them money
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Interestingly enough I was just sitting here thinking how nice it's been having those maps in the rotation lately, seems like those maps are conducive to finding nice fights which I've been able to do.
Conversely there are maps that I dislike because all they seem to bring is hording and massive landgrab where trying to fend off 2-4 cherry pickers seems to be the norm.
To each their own I suppose.
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A new map would be a great. There are some maps I just hate to see. We need new maps. I totally agree on this one. A change in terrain would be nice.
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Am I the only one who likes all 3 of those maps?
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I don't mind baltic or ndisles, I think the negativity towards them was the several months of playing ONLY them maps.
Uterus is my pet hate. If ever a map was designed for large hoards that is it. Whoever is down south usually gets hammered.
MajIssue has got a valid point, map rotations are one of the key components to healthy gameplay, I would like to see a more varied rotation.
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what ever happened to the maps that came out right after the arenas were split?
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2 words.
Pizza, Donut.
'nuff said
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Remember fellas, maps have to be "player made". So download the terrain editor or get on some buddies to do it. That's the only way you will see new maps.
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Remember fellas, maps have to be "player made". So download the terrain editor or get on some buddies to do it. That's the only way you will see new maps.
Tons of maps have been created, we saw them once then they left. Remember Festermap ? we had it non stop for monthes, pple yelled, then it never came back. Map rotation should include more than 2 maps.
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Am I the only one who likes all 3 of those maps?
nope.
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MajIssue has got a valid point, map rotations are one of the key components to healthy gameplay, I would like to see a more varied rotation.
He may have a point, but his insinuation that the problem is do to 'laziness' on HTC's part is way out of line and uncalled for.
It's been my experience (meeting HTC staff at 2 conventions), that Dale and the HTC staff take their job VERY seriously and if I were an HTC employee, I would be highly insulted and I would 'boot' him not only from the BBS, but from the game too.
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the way I read it, sounded like he wasn't accusing them of being lazy but IF they were being lazy its the quickest way to lose customers.
I've seen this happen elsewhere and from a players POV it is really frustrating. I'm confident as you are that HTC work their butts off (much :t).
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the way I read it, sounded like he wasn't accusing them of being lazy but IF they were being lazy its the quickest way to lose customers.
I've seen this happen elsewhere and from a players POV it is really frustrating. I'm confident as you are that HTC work their butts off (much :t).
As easy as it would be to add a little variety, it boggles the mind how a group of people can be either so clueless or lazy!
Not only are they 'lazy' ... but possibly 'clueless' too ... :O
4.Is it true that the staff is so lazy that all they do is shut down the blue arena, rename the orange arena to Titanic Tuesday and go home,Then rename the Titanic Tuesday arena back to Orange on Wednesday?
That's a clear enough statement for me, if I were an HTC employee. Putting it in the form of a "question" is cute, but clear as glass ... IMHO.
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He may have a point, but his insinuation that the problem is do to 'laziness' on HTC's part is way out of line and uncalled for.
It's been my experience (meeting HTC staff at 2 conventions), that Dale and the HTC staff take their job VERY seriously and if I were an HTC employee, I would be highly insulted and I would 'boot' him not only from the BBS, but from the game too.
I wasn't trying to ruffle feathers, only pointing out the situation and drawing a possible explanation. Why is someting so obviously simple is not addressed? What is another possibility?
The Map for Titanic Tuesday was the SAME as the Orange map was on Monday, then the Wednesday Orange map was exactly the same as the Titanic Tuesday map! I meant no disrespect toward the HTC staff... but an occasional poke with a cattle prod might get a little attention.
Inattention to detail and taking customers for granted is 100% guaranteed to alienate a customer base... just ask some of HTC's failed competition.
I love this game and am sickened by something so simple as having a variety of maps to play on, ruin an otherwise great experience!
So BAN me bro! I am a consumer of this product and live in America where the last time I checked, I had the RIGHT to express my opinion.
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Although a bit more pointed of a post than I my self would have created, I do agree that maps should be rotated regularly. Not just a specific few, but everyone we have available to use. Variety is the spice of life. Kudo's to those that are willing to create maps, and sincerely hope you continue to create and submit more for all AH'ers enjoyment!
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Toolshedders have no place to hide on the small maps so they cry. Wahhh wahhh wahhh.
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I just watch more TV. I saw Charlie Wilson's War last night... good movie... bad maps.
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Yeah your right. Its a fascinating game and everyone in Hi Tech Ive ever talked to has been great.
They still need new maps. That TT I was really looking forward to coming home from work and playing. But when I opened up the game and saw that stale Uterus I almost puked.
We dont even need a lot of them. A few new maps would do the trick.
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Sure can't please everyone can ya?
Seems to me there have been some milestone developments in the past month or so. I think HTC is anything but lazy.
With the offline mission capability they have basically created a stand alone game with unfettered access to new missions being created every week and a "mission builder" whose potential is just barely being scratched.
How much effort, time and money went into that?
They could have rightfully charged for that download or made it available only to subcribers, yet they are giving it away.
I don't remember Gates and Co. ever offering a free version of CFS.
Maybe the map issue should be brought up as a suggestion, not a criticism.
I may be just a noob, but I'm pretty excited about the future, can't wait to see what's next!
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Sure can't please everyone can ya?
Seems to me there have been some milestone developments in the past month or so. I think HTC is anything but lazy.
With the offline mission capability they have basically created a stand alone game with unfettered access to new missions being created every week and a "mission builder" whose potential is just barely being scratched.
How much effort, time and money went into that?
They could have rightfully charged for that download or made it available only to subcribers, yet they are giving it away.
I don't remember Gates and Co. ever offering a free version of CFS.
Maybe the map issue should be brought up as a suggestion, not a criticism.
I may be just a noob, but I'm pretty excited about the future, can't wait to see what's next!
I have lavishly parised HTC recently for the fantastic work they have done to improve the game and also for the prompt way they address bugs and other issues with frequent patches as needed.
The map issue has been brought up as a suggestion in the past... When suggestions are ignored, criticism is warranted.
Overall, I personally love this game and agree that it the best entertainment value on the WWW!
This map "thing" has been bugging me for some time... and it it no surprise to me that usual "cheese-eaters" are calling for people to be booted from the forums and the game for having an opinion that differs from their rodent-like devotion to the status quo.
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I wasn't trying to ruffle feathers, only pointing out the situation and drawing a possible explanation. Why is someting so obviously simple is not addressed? What is another possibility?
The Map for Titanic Tuesday was the SAME as the Orange map was on Monday, then the Wednesday Orange map was exactly the same as the Titanic Tuesday map! I meant no disrespect toward the HTC staff... but an occasional poke with a cattle prod might get a little attention.
Inattention to detail and taking customers for granted is 100% guaranteed to alienate a customer base... just ask some of HTC's failed competition.
I love this game and am sickened by something so simple as having a variety of maps to play on, ruin an otherwise great experience!
So BAN me bro! I am a consumer of this product and live in America where the last time I checked, I had the RIGHT to express my opinion.
Nothing wrong with expressing displeasure in the lack of new maps or how they are rotated in the arenas ... I would have to agree with you on that point, but to insinuate that the problem is due to the HTC staff being 'lazy' or 'clueless' is where you crossed the line as a 'consumer' as far as I am concerned.
You had no right to make those claims, unless of course you hang around the HTC offices and viewed, what you claim, first hand. If not, then it was just a case of you trying to poke HTC in the eye and consumers who poke business owners in the eye don't get very far.
I don't know about anybody else, but as far as I am concerned, you owe HTC an apology ... not for your complaint, but rather for how you complained.
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This map "thing" has been bugging me for some time... and it it no surprise to me that usual "cheese-eaters" are calling for people to be booted from the forums and the game for having an opinion that differs from their rodent-like devotion to the status quo.
As far as me ... you couldn't be more wrong if you tried. Over the years I have voiced displeasure/complained/whined about certain aspects of this game, but I never went as far as to insult Dale and the HTC staff thinking that that type of approach will make them stand up ... take notice ... and act on it immediately.
You were rude and insulted these people's work ethic ... on an assumption ("drawing a possible explanation").
Have you ever been to an Aces High Convention ? ... have you ever met Dale/HiTech or Doug/Pyro ? ... these guys are serious as heart attacks when it comes to this game and I would bet the ranch that your style of cattle prodding put you and any suggestion that you may have so far back on the burner it isn't even funny.
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I like NDisles. Baltic can be fun too. As long as your in the top right corner or the bottom.
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I don't mind Baltic or even Uterus (even though I'm quite tired of both of them) but for some reason I can't stand NDIsles. I'd rather log off.
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With two small maps that everybody has seen over and over, you get alot of 20 on 20 furballs and not much else.
And this is a bad thing? Three bases in a triangle is all we really need. Everything else is just gravy.
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I have one I'm building for the offline mission makers. It currently has all custom textures (thanks to Croduh) and custom fields. It could fairly easily be converted to default(yawn) textures & fields. Not enough water for CVs though. If that wouldn't bother too many, I could start laying fields and get it sent in for eval., which I heard is the real pain in the arse and why I've never standardized any of my maps for MA use. I've read stories here of guys spending mucho time making a map, just to have it turned down. Anyway, I'll standardize it and lay a field or two, then post it for anyone that wants to fly around & check it out.
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Beautiful textures! Croduh is the man!
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Thats awesome! wish we had big towns like that to fight in and over. :pray
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There will be in the offline missions soon :aok
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As hard as it is to get paying customers, lazieness and complacency are the quickest and easiest ways to drive them away!
Wow just wow, I've been paying and playing this game for 8 years or more. I'd never call HTC lazy or complacent. Just the opposite in fact. I don't even have to attend a con to know that either.
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after the last update and new AC's & GV's, lazy is not a word I'd use to describe HTC.
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The laziness thing cracks me up. Complaining about not having maps is like complaining about not having enough skins for a plane; both are player created. If you're so fed up, maybe YOU should learn how to use the editor and start making maps?
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Am I the only one who likes all 3 of those maps?
Nope.
What I really find funny about posts from MajorIssue and others of his ilk, is they whine about there not being any new maps and insult HiTech and gang about being "lazy and complacent" when HTC has made the tools to create terrains available to the community. It is not HiTech and his merry band that is lazy and complacent, it is you MajorIssue and those that while along with you that are lazy. Why don't you create some maps for the community? It would be far more productive if you did put your energy into creating maps instead of wasting the energy by creating whining threads.
ack-ack
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Nope.
What I really find funny about posts from MajorIssue and others of his ilk, is they whine about there not being any new maps and insult HiTech and gang about being "lazy and complacent" when HTC has made the tools to create terrains available to the community. It is not HiTech and his merry band that is lazy and complacent, it is you MajorIssue and those that while along with you that are lazy. Why don't you create some maps for the community? It would be far more productive if you did put your energy into creating maps instead of wasting the energy by creating whining threads.
ack-ack
Best Post ^^^^^
To MajorIssue, seeing as you don't like playing on these stale maps, maybe you could use your spare time building a few new ones. You know, just "whip" them up. I'm sure you'd have no problem rolling them out lets say..... one a week maybe? :aok
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I happen to like those 3 maps. Usually the big ones have 6 total grids taken up by 3 separate hordes.
Waste of a lot of real estate. The smaller maps make for quicker fights. The close proximity of bases usually creates more then a 3 horde pick and run.
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While I would never insult anyone at HiTech, or be rude to them, let me see If I have this right. They, and some of you, expect the customers to make the game maps?
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Maps & skins
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While I would never insult anyone at HiTech, or be rude to them, let me see If I have this right. They, and some of you, expect the customers to make the game maps?
Many if not most of the maps we have in the game are player-made, so asking players to put up or hush up is in keeping with the history of the game.
How many maps were ever in those "other games?" Did they have new ones every week?
To MajorIssue, seeing as you don't like playing on these stale maps, maybe you could use your spare time building a few new ones. You know, just "whip" them up. I'm sure you'd have no problem rolling them out lets say..... one a week maybe? :aok
Perhaps if you took Fugitive's advice and see just what it takes to make a map, you will understand why there are not hundreds of different maps.
Besides, the terrain is just stuff you fly and fight over anyway . . . when you are in the air, who cares what is beneath? So in reality, you only need one map (as long as it is NOT uterus ;)).
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While I would never insult anyone at HiTech, or be rude to them, let me see If I have this right. They, and some of you, expect the customers to make the game maps?
It's called player created content and is one of the best things about MMO communities. Some of the best content for online games have been created by the community, there is no reason why HTC shouldn't tap into this vast and creative resource. HiTech would be remiss if he didn't have HTC make these tools unavailable to the community. Actually, the one redeeming quality about the H2H were some of the maps created by the players. I wish I had the time and the knowledge to create maps myself as I have some really good ideas for quite a few but I don't. I'm glad though there are players like Fester and the other map makers that do have the time and knowledge to create some of our maps. Maybe you should think about whether you have the time and see if you can create some maps yourself, you know, put into the game and community that you so willingly leech off of.
ack-ack
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AW had two maps, one Europe, one pacific. FA had one map split into 5 teams? :huh I didn't fly or play Warbirds or WWII Online long enough to remember how many maps they had, but I don't think it was any where as many as AH has.
Of the 18.... yes 18 maps available to the MAs, 6 where made by HT staff, and the rest where player submitted.Considering the number available, as compared to the other games, there are more than enough maps. Even resetting a map each day it would take more than 2 weeks to duplicate a map. With everything else on their plate maps are not going to be a priority to HTC.
"Why" all the maps are not in rotation is a question that I wish HTC would answer here on the boards. I'm sure there is a good reason for each map that has been removed, I'm just curios as to what they are. Maybe posting the reasons will quite the calls for bringing them back, or maybe solutions can be found for the problems.
That leaves player built maps. The tools are available, but map making is not just a "point and click" operation. While the actual building of the maps is a bit of a daunting task, you can add in the "playability" of a map as well as considerations for strategic play. Anyone of these things can get a map rejected, which is another reason why most don't want to invest the time to build them.
Do I expect the "customers to make the maps", only those complaining about not having enough maps :devil
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Do I expect the "customers to make the maps", only those complaining about not having enough maps
Were the ones paying money to play the game. For AH, or anyone else, to have the expectation that the customers who are paying the money to play, should also make the content, is ridiculous. Sorry but I already have one full time job and a part time job. I dont have the time to make content for a game that Im paying to play. Even if I had the knowledge, which I dont.
Dont get me wrong. Its great they have this option available for the players that have the interest. But to have the expectation??? :huh Whos paying who to play the game?
By the same token if someone feels there are things that need changing, or need adding, or need deleting, they have a right to say so in the forum without being pounced on by other $15 a month players, who have no official position in HiTech inc, yet for some reason choose to sound off like VPs of marketing. Unless your punching a time clock for Aces High you got no right to call "another customer" a "whiner" for wanting something new in the game. Like new maps.
I dont agree with neither the tone or the wording of the original post in this thread, or accusing anyone at HTC of anything negative. I have actually found them to be the complete opposite of that, and very helpful. But the guy has the right to ask for new maps.
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Do we really need more new maps when great maps go unused i.e. FesterMA, Trinity, and Doughnut?
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personally, i say put it back how it used 2 b... 1 arena... and fighter town =D
-BigBOBCH
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"Expecting" HTC to continuously provide new maps is as bad as "Expecting" the player base to provide the new maps don't ya think? HTC provide timely updates to their systems, and provides a game and game play area for your $15 a month. Expecting more with out an increase in the monthly payment is ridiculous.
Maybe "Expecting" isn't the word we should be bouncing around here. Do I expect the players to make the maps? No, but I also don't expect HTC to make more maps either. For my $15 a month I expect to be able to log on and fly my cartoon planes for a bit. I expect to get an occasional plane added to the plane set. I expect the the servers to be maintained and up to date.
This game came with 6 maps that either were won to be replaced with the next in the rotation, or were reset once a week with the next in the rotation. No one should expect more. We were lucky to have a number of gifted people willing to spend the huge amount of time necessary to build "additional" maps. Those that come on these boards and "demand", and "belittle" HTC and their staff have no rights to voice their opinions even if they send in their $15 a month. A little respect goes a long way.
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Am I the only one who likes all 3 of those maps?
No
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"Expecting" HTC to continuously provide new maps is as bad as "Expecting" the player base to provide the new maps don't ya think?
No. I dont. Digital content is digital content. Its all zeros and ones whether its a new airplane, a new bomb, or a new map.
Frankly there are some maps I like a lot. The only one I cant stand is the uterus. And the reason I cant stand it is cause it leads to stale gameplay. Remember the last time when it lasted for like four weeks?
Ive come to love some of the big maps. The volcanos are terrific places for 1 on 1s. Anyway i had my say and we'll agree to disagree. I think its silly to expect your paying player base to create their digital content.
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My .02 is worth less than 2 cents, but it's free.
While I have to agree that the maps can get a bit stale, the game play on each one is more to blame then the map itself. If you don't like uterus, go find a live one and destroy it. Don't like Isles, get in a boat and go fishing. Don't like another map, make a new one. If either side would start working together, the maps would be reset more often and we might get a chance to see the other available maps. Squads and players switching sides to help those with the least players ruins chances of quick resets. Lazy? I don't think so. Drinking the Scotch ya'll sent to HTC, maybe. :uhoh. Maybe if you were to get together with your squad and help take some bases to reset the map instead of just vulching the same field for 4 weeks, we could get a reset. Pay your 15 a month, fly or don't fly, make a map or not, but post something that could help instead of the ramblings of a idiot.
Buff it all you want, you can't polish a turd.
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I just watch more TV. I saw Charlie Wilson's War last night... good movie... bad maps.
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Remember fellas, maps have to be "player made". So download the terrain editor or get on some buddies to do it. That's the only way you will see new maps.
Is there instructions on how to use the terrain editor? I've tryed to figure it out on my own and have failed several times.
HTC has had several maps sumitted over the years, why can't they just go through their files and put them back in the rotation?With all due respect, I don't understand why the customers have to make maps. What are we paying HTC for? I'd like to hear from HiTech on this.
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I think we'd all be pretty bored if HT stopped making new planes, fixing bugs, and, most importantly, hosting the servers.
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Were the ones paying money to play the game. For AH, or anyone else, to have the expectation that the customers who are paying the money to play, should also make the content, is ridiculous. Sorry but I already have one full time job and a part time job. I dont have the time to make content for a game that Im paying to play. Even if I had the knowledge, which I dont.
Dont get me wrong. Its great they have this option available for the players that have the interest. But to have the expectation??? :huh Whos paying who to play the game?
By the same token if someone feels there are things that need changing, or need adding, or need deleting, they have a right to say so in the forum without being pounced on by other $15 a month players, who have no official position in HiTech inc, yet for some reason choose to sound off like VPs of marketing. Unless your punching a time clock for Aces High you got no right to call "another customer" a "whiner" for wanting something new in the game. Like new maps.
I dont agree with neither the tone or the wording of the original post in this thread, or accusing anyone at HTC of anything negative. I have actually found them to be the complete opposite of that, and very helpful. But the guy has the right to ask for new maps.
I concur :aok
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My .02 is worth less than 2 cents, but it's free.
While I have to agree that the maps can get a bit stale, the game play on each one is more to blame then the map itself. If you don't like uterus, go find a live one and destroy it. Don't like Isles, get in a boat and go fishing. Don't like another map, make a new one. If either side would start working together, the maps would be reset more often and we might get a chance to see the other available maps. Squads and players switching sides to help those with the least players ruins chances of quick resets. Lazy? I don't think so. Drinking the Scotch ya'll sent to HTC, maybe. :uhoh. Maybe if you were to get together with your squad and help take some bases to reset the map instead of just vulching the same field for 4 weeks, we could get a reset. Pay your 15 a month, fly or don't fly, make a map or not, but post something that could help instead of the ramblings of a idiot.
Buff it all you want, you can't polish a turd.
I read this three times ....and still. Can someone translate what this guy is saying? Dragon do tell me you were drunk when you posted this. Cause either you were to drunk when you wrote it , or I was to sober when I read it. :lol
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Maybe you should think about whether you have the time and see if you can create some maps yourself, you know, put into the game and community that you so willingly leech off of.
I know this was'nt directed at me but I just HAVE to ask how a player paying their $15/mo. like everyone else in exchange for a service is leeching off of the game and the community?
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Personally I like all 3 maps - although we could do with them rotating more often.
With regards to the "expectation" that the customer base create the new maps - think its more likely that HTC knows people love this game, and want to contribute to it (hence the provision of the tools to do so). Some of the maps I've seen created (Croduh, Ranger etc) are astounding and I'd love to see them ingame. Ditto for the skins people create - again, dont think its expected, or required - but this game is soo addictive, people want to contribute.
I'd love to create a skin, or a map - but unfortunately lack the time (and probably the intelligence) to do justice to either of them
just my 0.0002p worth, ymmv,
Wurzel
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trinity donut please.
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Maybe you should think about whether you have the time and see if you can create some maps yourself, you know, put into the game and community that you so willingly leech off of.
I didnt even see this posted before, and apparently it was directed at me.
Ack Ack have you lost your bloody mind? :lol
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As much as I enjoy AHII, the last two weeks make me wonder:
1.What happened to 1 big and 1 small map?
2.Why are we playing on maps that are as stale as 5 year old bread?
3.Why was the map not changed for Titanic Tuesday? Monday's Orange Arena was Tuesday's Titanic Tuesday... again!
4.Is it true that the staff is so lazy that all they do is shut down the blue arena, rename the orange arena to Titanic Tuesday and go home,Then rename the Titanic Tuesday arena back to Orange on Wednesday?
5.There are so many maps available for the arenas, WHY are we subjected to the same old map rotation... time after time after time after time after time after time after time after time...
With two small maps that everybody has seen over and over, you get alot of 20 on 20 furballs and not much else. big hoard vs big hoard... (gee I wonder what's on TV... Or where is that DVD of 12 o'clock high... or I wonder what the other WW2 flight sims have to offer)
How old is Baltic? (I REMEMBER IT FROM AH1!!) NDIsles? Uterus? OLD, OLD, OLD
As easy as it would be to add a little variety, it boggles the mind how a group of people can be either so clueless or lazy!
The result... a boreing experience and a reason to see what other options are out there.
As hard as it is to get paying customers, lazieness and complacency are the quickest and easiest ways to drive them away!
I love Aces High... but these old stale maps make the experience less than what I would expect from a company like HTC that has consistantly provided a high quality Combat Flight Sim that is more than a game...
I would recommend keeping these 3 maps out of the rotation for awhile and giving us a little variety!! PLEASE!
Is this the map for Tank Town :(
I love that map dude. I just hate Ozkansas, and the original Titanic Tuesday Map.
BUT I wanna see Donut Map in AHII again!! :D
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Am I the only one who likes all 3 of those maps?
I love 'em too. Don't have to play musical land grabbing hordes. Everyone has to fight on the small maps, if you want a field you have to earn earn thru right of battle...Which is really the whole point..When there's the huge maps with enough bases everyone can have their own, there is really no reason to fight. The hordes just play musical fields all avoiding each other in the rediculous attempt to take as many fields each per unit time as possible...<yawn>
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Were the ones paying money to play the game. For AH, or anyone else, to have the expectation that the customers who are paying the money to play, should also make the content, is ridiculous. Sorry but I already have one full time job and a part time job. I dont have the time to make content for a game that Im paying to play. Even if I had the knowledge, which I dont.
Dont get me wrong. Its great they have this option available for the players that have the interest. But to have the expectation??? :huh Whos paying who to play the game?
By the same token if someone feels there are things that need changing, or need adding, or need deleting, they have a right to say so in the forum without being pounced on by other $15 a month players, who have no official position in HiTech inc, yet for some reason choose to sound off like VPs of marketing. Unless your punching a time clock for Aces High you got no right to call "another customer" a "whiner" for wanting something new in the game. Like new maps.
I dont agree with neither the tone or the wording of the original post in this thread, or accusing anyone at HTC of anything negative. I have actually found them to be the complete opposite of that, and very helpful. But the guy has the right to ask for new maps.
Agreed...
I was frustrated when I started this thread and vented... I truely meant no disrespect toward HiTech or any HTC Staff members, dispite my rambling diatribe. Please accept my most sincere apology for my harsh words.
The question remains though... WHY are we subjected to those same three stale old maps time after time after time... Please HTC... enlighten us!
Since Baltic (with it's 1/8 scale distances) is still around after all these years, What ever happened to Mindinao?
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I read this three times ....and still. Can someone translate what this guy is saying? Dragon do tell me you were drunk when you posted this. Cause either you were to drunk when you wrote it , or I was to sober when I read it. :lol
Both, definitely both.
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Bumped because I agree. Those three maps (uterus, baltic and the island map) should be retired. In fact, shreding the code would not be out of line.
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*cough*
trinity...
donut........
*cough*
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i just dont like the maps u gotta fly 50 miles to get into combat, i miss fighter town, it would b nice if they did fighter town friday :rofl :D :t
-BigBOBCH
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i just dont like the maps u gotta fly 50 miles to get into combat, i miss fighter town, it would b nice if they did fighter town friday :rofl :D :t
-BigBOBCH
with donut...
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Just bring in all the maps on rotaion and if there are issues let the masses deal with it. We can post problems on the forums ( nicely ) and you can work on them as you have time. Just give updates, so everyone knows they are being addressed. The maps truely are old and we all realize you are working on the new Combat tour arena but if possible please bring in the other maps.
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Bumped because I agree. Those three maps (uterus, baltic and the island map) should be retired. In fact, shreding the code would not be out of line.
rofl badhorse... I hope the coffe I spit on my monitor doesn't cause any permanant damage!!
Shred the code... you betcha especially with baltic!
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Just give updates, so everyone knows they are being addressed.
Yeah, you ain't been here long have ya?
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rofl badhorse... I hope the coffe I spit on my monitor doesn't cause any permanant damage!!
Shred the code... you betcha especially with baltic!
I almost have to agree - Baltic has quickly became my least favorite map, mostly because about half of the game play in Baltic seems to surround taking, retaking, defending, or resupplying the HQ/VBase at the HQ because it was just retaken. Last night I did my usual thing without thinking (changed sides to the low numbered side) and wanted to pound my head into the wall when I realized that I'd just moved to the side where they'd shut down HQ. I don't give 2 shiznits about leaving the winning side of the map or about a 3 to 2 numbers disadvantage - but spending much of the evening planning gameplay around a contest for a single 100 miles behind the lines VB is really really OLD really really fast.
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