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Title: Increase perk cost of the m4 firefly
Post by: stodd on June 01, 2008, 08:36:56 PM
I think the perk cost of the m4 should be increased,as it is now it costs around 5 or 6 I think. I think it should be increased to ecleast 9 or 10.

reason's why:   It can absorb several hits if you dont hit it in the exact right spot esecially the turret. Its camouflage blends in with the tree's so good sometimes it makes it extremely hard to see,it moves its turret faster then pnzr.  Compared to the tiger which costs  around 30 I think,the m4 can kill it with 1 shot in the front while the tigr rounds often bounce off or are absorbed by the m4. That is just my experience as I use the tigr alot and fight m4's alot.

So what do ya think?

*edit*
Tour 99 late war arena
Sherman VC has 1316 Kills of Tiger I
Tiger I has 1540 Kills of Sherman VC
thats only a 1.17 kill death ratio for tigr and the tigr costs about 5 times more perks then the m4.
Title: Re: Increase perk cost of the m4 firefly
Post by: Lusche on June 01, 2008, 08:38:46 PM
I hardly have a opnion as perks are sooo easy to get since the introduction of Wirbelwind (ENY 25, same as Osti)
Title: Re: Increase perk cost of the m4 firefly
Post by: Bronk on June 01, 2008, 08:39:48 PM
I hardly have a opnion as perks are sooo easy to get since the introduction of Wirbelwind (ENY 25, same as Osti)
Seconded
I have found the M-8 is effective as perk collector though.:noid
Title: Re: Increase perk cost of the m4 firefly
Post by: VansCrew1 on June 01, 2008, 09:09:00 PM
I say No.

Yes an M4 has an amazing gun, but the armor is not that great.
Title: Re: Increase perk cost of the m4 firefly
Post by: uberslet on June 02, 2008, 05:52:47 PM
I say No.

Yes an M4 has an amazing gun, but the armor is not that great.
its not great if you hit it in right spot, but vans is right.
Title: Re: Increase perk cost of the m4 firefly
Post by: moot on June 02, 2008, 06:24:49 PM
On paper it should lose to the Tiger more than half the time.. But in practice, it's a better place to be than in a Tiger.
The tiger has a slow turret which matters not just against the M4 but also in dispatching faster light GVs, crappy HE ballistics (to damage light GVs), has no smoke ability, and all these handicaps are multiplied by the higher perk cost, which means there'll be multiple M4s for every Tiger, despite the M4 being superior in most circumstances the two meet in, in the game.
Title: Re: Increase perk cost of the m4 firefly
Post by: thndregg on June 02, 2008, 06:54:18 PM
I up a Sherman. I lose a Sherman. I up an M16. I shoot down a plane. I get my teensie perk loss back. Whoopee.
Title: Re: Increase perk cost of the m4 firefly
Post by: Rich46yo on June 02, 2008, 08:06:15 PM
The Sherman is about the only tank I'd bother upping now. At least the only perk tank. Not that I care about GV perks but I just feel the Sherman is a better all around tank then the Tiger.

And the Panzer, T-34 are just fine too.

But the Sherman is a really nice tank in AH.
Title: Re: Increase perk cost of the m4 firefly
Post by: Spikes on June 02, 2008, 08:09:12 PM
I hear they sent groups of Shermans (5 or 6) up against one Tiger...is this true?
Title: Re: Increase perk cost of the m4 firefly
Post by: Bronk on June 02, 2008, 08:26:22 PM
I hear they sent groups of Shermans (5 or 6) up against one Tiger...is this true?
Not the firefly though.
Title: Re: Increase perk cost of the m4 firefly
Post by: Saxman on June 02, 2008, 11:33:53 PM
I up a Sherman and I nail an M8 in his turret and he doesn't even flinch. The M8 then hits me once in the front armor and I blow up.
Title: Re: Increase perk cost of the m4 firefly
Post by: moot on June 02, 2008, 11:48:38 PM
I've had M8s take true hit sprites from M4 HE shells in the turret and front armor, near flat angle.. That was odd too.
Title: Re: Increase perk cost of the m4 firefly
Post by: AAolds on June 02, 2008, 11:52:44 PM
Increasing the perk on the M4 and the Wirble would be a good idea, but doubtful such shall occur.
Title: Re: Increase perk cost of the m4 firefly
Post by: BaldEagl on June 03, 2008, 12:15:19 AM
Increasing the perk on the M4 and the Wirble would be a good idea, but doubtful such shall occur.

Agreed.  I think both should be perked at about 10 perks.
Title: Re: Increase perk cost of the m4 firefly
Post by: stodd on June 03, 2008, 01:27:36 PM
I've had M8s take true hit sprites from M4 HE shells in the turret and front armor, near flat angle.. That was odd too.
It's not just with m4's, I have bounced many 88mm rounds off m8's before.
Title: Re: Increase perk cost of the m4 firefly
Post by: Cthulhu on June 03, 2008, 02:41:33 PM
It's not just with m4's, I have bounced many 88mm rounds off m8's before.

That's just wrong. M8 has, at most, 3/4" armor. :huh  Even HE from an 88 should do the job quite nicely.
Title: Re: Increase perk cost of the m4 firefly
Post by: Lye-El on June 03, 2008, 04:22:07 PM
I hear they sent groups of Shermans (5 or 6) up against one Tiger...is this true?

The Sherman in Aces High is not the standard issue Sherman that most of the Allies used. The Firefly variant is an up gunned version. People were crying for a Sherman in the game  and had they got the standard version, nobody would have used it.