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General Forums => Aircraft and Vehicles => Topic started by: uberslet on May 20, 2008, 08:18:18 PM
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I been flyin the 190A8 recently, and was wondering what other 190A8 sticks use as a loadout. I take 100% gas, 4X20MM cannon, skin 12/jg5 by krusty. I sometimes bring a bomb, but usually not. Anyway, was just wonderin what other 190A8 jocks use as load out.
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Usually, 100% gas, 20x 20mm, and Fencer's JG11 skin.
Don't fly the A8 all that often though. If I'm in a 190, it's usually the A5 or the Ta152.
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152's are getting popular recently. used to never see them, al of a sudden i see them everywhere.
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Unless I know I'm intercepting bombers or doing ground attack, I only take 2x20mm. Otherwise the same as bubi. :aok
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I saw a picture of a 190A8 with gondolas on it... :O
I'll find it next chance I get around to it... not like it needs it though....
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I fly the A8 with 100% fuel and 2x20mm/2x30mm. Won't leave home without them. Convergence set at 650. I can take the wings off a buff from 800 (same with the 109K-4).
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75% gas, 2x20mm +occasional 500kg and, of course, the most important: parachute.
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I used to run it with the extra 2x30, then the extra 2x20, but now just fly it with the standard guns.
I guess i mix it up more and find the extra performance more important than the firepower when I get the standard La7/spit conga line on my six. I tend to aim better too when i have abit less ammo to throw around. I fly the 109 alot and that bird only sports the single 20mm. Dont need more than one really :cool:
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The A5 with the light gun package is a bit more nimble than the A8, but both are favorites of mine.
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Depending on the mission.
Usual fighter loadout:
100% fuel.
2 x 20 mm
Usual Attack loadout:
75% fuel
4 x 20 mm
1 500 Kilo bundle of joy.
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I never take a DT, so usually 100%
I always take the 30mm loadout.
The extra hitting power allows a big bunch of insta-death kills without having to engage in an extended fight. As soon as you get even a slight angle, it's over.
I also rarely fire the cowl guns.... especially when I have Mk 108 rounds left.
I always fight in the verticle so I find that the extra weight is no real cost to my ability to fight, particularly when weighed with the advantages of the heavy gun pack.
I also find the 4 x 20mm option to be impossibly weak, so I never bother with it.
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Since they've actually added weight to the ETC501 rack now, theoretically it moves the center of gravity forward. I haven't flown it enough to figure out if it helps or not, but I have been taking the DT every time I go up (usually 75% and DT, drop the DT on climbout somewhere, or keep for really long sorties).
If I really want to mix it up I'll take 2 guns only. I fire my MG131s with the MG151/20s always (2x 50cals are enough to kill planes, these will too). I tend NOT to take the MG151/20 outboard guns, will more likely take 2 guns or outboard 30mms.
I find when I take 4x20mm, I get a lot of hits with less damage. I don't know why. Seems less effective than the basic 2-gun setup, even! So I'll take the 30mm if I'm "maybe fighting but really looking for big targets" and no outboards if I'm not.
You can tell when you land a 30mm on a fighter. Instant decapitation!
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50% gas, DT, no gondolas. :noid
I never saw the sense in taking a full tank of gas on it. The DT hurts your climb a little, but being able to click it off and immediatebly be at 50%, imho, outweights getting jumped with 80%+ of gas and no way to get rid of it. With bases being as close as they are, you rarely have time to even burn off the full DT if you're just heading out to furball.
The gondolas destroy the already sub-par performance. If you plan to do anything other than BnZ, go without. Only time they're useful is for a vulching and buff hunting. If you can't destroy somebody with the 2x20mm cowl guns, extra 20s or even 30s on the wing aren't going to help you much.
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I been flyin the 190A8 recently, and was wondering what other 190A8 sticks use as a loadout. I take 100% gas, 4X20MM cannon, skin 12/jg5 by krusty. I sometimes bring a bomb, but usually not. Anyway, was just wonderin what other 190A8 jocks use as load out.
same... sometimes ill take only 50% if its base defence.....
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If you plan to do anything other than BnZ, go without.
I don't see how you could do anything other than bnz in 190A8, and don't see the point taking a 190A8 without gondolas when you can have a 190A5.
I personnaly take the 30mms with convergence 350 and avoid most of the duels :noid
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Usually, 100% gas, 20x 20mm, and Fencer's JG11 skin.
Don't fly the A8 all that often though. If I'm in a 190, it's usually the A5 or the Ta152.
+1 - 152.
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I don't see how you could do anything other than bnz in 190A8, and don't see the point taking a 190A8 without gondolas when you can have a 190A5.
I personnaly take the 30mms with convergence 350 and avoid most of the duels :noid
2 points, of which I will cover the second point first:
2) The 190a8 does NOT have gondolas. It has internally mounted gun positions. The guns can be removed. There is no drag with these installations. Gondolas are external tubs hanging underneath a wing that induce much drag and heavily reduce performance. A 190A8 gains weight and loses a small (small!) amount of roll. It has this in spades, and can spare a little. The weight is the problem.
1) You can easily dogfight with the 190A8. I wouldn't suggest simply flat turning it with spits, but that is NOT the only way to dogfight. Especially if you take 2 guns and have 50% or less fuel during the fight, it can actually surprise you. I've out-fought some LA-7s (well flown, too) and Yak-9us and various other planes in a 2-gun, light-fueled 190A8.
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Well, first of all the 30mm are crap... You get 55 or 60 rounds of 33mm, and once their gone, you're stuck with the extra weight of those guns. 2x20mm's, I'd only take when hunting Buffs and not expecting much escort cover... light gun package is best, and stay in ther vertical for the duration of the fight if you don't wanna BnZ.
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I fully agree with Krusty regarding dogfighting in the A8. I've beat Spits, Hurris, F6F's, F4U's and any number of other more nimble fighters in it. On some occasions I've gotten into turn fights with these types and dropped all three notches of flaps, only extending briefly to re-set along the way. It will surprise you but not unless you try it.
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My favorite use for the a8 is base defense when there is a cv on shore. In the confusion of the low furball it is easy to blast away w/ the 4 20mms I always bring. There is no need to bnz.
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bobtom
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1) You can easily dogfight with the 190A8. I wouldn't suggest simply flat turning it with spits, but that is NOT the only way to dogfight. Especially if you take 2 guns and have 50% or less fuel during the fight, it can actually surprise you. I've out-fought some LA-7s (well flown, too) and Yak-9us and various other planes in a 2-gun, light-fueled 190A8.
I enjoy the challenge of taking on la7s with the full cannon load out. It's still possible to mix it up with the best of them in the A8 with the heaviest gun package. Always fight up and rolling. Don't be affraid to get the flaps out.... just don't hang on them, the 190 doesn't slow down well so forcing an overshoot that you're able to capitalise on is unlikely against anyone more experienced than a 12 year old two weeker.
Well, first of all the 30mm are crap... You get 55 or 60 rounds of 33mm, and once their gone, you're stuck with the extra weight of those guns. 2x20mm's, I'd only take when hunting Buffs and not expecting much escort cover... light gun package is best, and stay in ther vertical for the duration of the fight if you don't wanna BnZ.
120 rounds of 30mm is nothing to be scoffed at. If you're can shot worth a damn you should have at least 5 kills before you run out of 30mm and then you've still got the 300+ rounds of 20mm to work with.
If you fight the Anton's fight, the 30mm make a negligible difference for a big return.
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I fly the A8 with 100% fuel and 2x20mm/2x30mm. Won't leave home without them. Convergence set at 650. I can take the wings off a buff from 800 (same with the 109K-4).
Same, but listen to Bld, he knows what hes talking about. If nothing else PM Doom hes been flying thta A-8 realy good lately.
BTW I take the the JG300 skin, baddest one in the game. :t