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General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: Valerio on May 24, 2008, 02:52:09 PM
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Alright i don't know if any of you have ever seen a real battle ship like the USS Arizona. They carried 2 helicopters on the back for medic, or pick up wounded soldiers (Pilots and everyone else on Allied side). Airfields didn't usually have Helicopters except for Large Airfields. So i think adding helicopters would be a good idea for a pilot who ejected from plane and has landed in the water or land; you should be able to fly it from a CV escort battle ship or Large Airfield. Also if this idea does get put into the game when the Helicopter gets within 10 feet of a player on ground or sea he should have a button show on his screen to enter the helicopter if he wants to; the helicopter should have a maximum of 5 player pickups and a gunner too. If any case that would save pilots from being captured and having there rank decrease. Obviously planes can shoot at the helicopters and the helicopters will have 2x50 calibers (Browning machine gun) on each side to shoot at enemy troops and close range planes. The amount of ammo that should be mounted on the 50 cals should be 250 rounds each. Also, you cant say that this is stupid like having subs or making more GV's because it comes into the fact that AH is an air rial combat game and helicopters are in that category. The helicopter also cant cost perks and only gets 0.50 perk points (attack points) for every guy sense its a dangerous thing to do and also he is saving someone so it should at least give him half a perk point; that would also make sure there is the right amount of players wanting to use the Helicopter. You have to admit if you made it give you like 5 perk points for every guy then everyone would want to use it and the idea would be a total tragedy. I am one who wants the helicopter in AH if you are too post a note saying I WANT HELICOPTERS IN AH! :rock
Your friend,
Valerio :salute
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You do realize this is a game based on World War Two, yes?
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YES AND THE USS ARIZONA WAS IN WWII DO YOU READ YOUR HISTORY ABOUT WWII?
People the USS Arizona sank in WWII along with its two medical rescue helicopters.
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YES AND THE USS ARIZONA WAS IN WWII DO YOU READ YOUR HISTORY ABOUT WWII?
People the USS Arizona sank in WWII along with its two medical rescue helicopters.
nevermind
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The fact that Helicopters were first made in WWII does not mean they weren't used. If you go to WWII helicopters in google search you will find right in front of your face. Plus helicopters were made in 1938 (Prototypes) - 2008 were they are still being used.
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I still haven't decided whether this guy is a troll, a four year old, or a genuine deficient.
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Go to this site http://www.olive-drab.com/od_medical_evac_helio_ww2.php and see me be right.
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I still haven't decided whether this guy is a troll, a four year old, or a genuine deficient.
He does have a good taste in avitards though.
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Go to this site http://www.olive-drab.com/od_medical_evac_helio_ww2.php and see me be right.
They used the Helicopters in 1944 for pickups and were not very much used during 1940's but they were used, how can you fight when i have evidence about this? You would like to have Helicopters wouldn't you?
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He does have a good taste in avitards though.
:lol :rofl :lol
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While evacuation by helicopter is established practice since the Korean War, during World War II the use of helicopters was practically unknown. The helicopters concept had obvious military advantages and designs were developed and experimented with in the early 1940s with a few practical models produced during World War II. On April 20, 1942, Igor Sikorsky staged a successful flight demonstration of his helicopter. By March 1943 the Army had ordered thirty-four Sikorsky helicopters. These aircraft could be quickly converted to air ambulance use by attaching litters to the sides of the aircraft.
First Helicopter Medical Evacuation in 1944
The China-Burma-India "Hump" airlift operation was the theater for what was probably the first use of a helicopter in a combat rescue. In April 1944, TSgt Ed "Murphy" Hladovcak of the 1st Air Commandos, piloting a Stinson L-1 Vigilant with three wounded British soldiers on board, was forced down over 100 miles (160 km) behind Japanese lines, 15 miles (25 km) west of Mawlu, Burma. Deep in the jungle where an airplane could not land, unable to hike out because of the injured passengers, and with ground-rescue forces days away, the downed men hid from nearby Japanese soldiers. A newly-delivered Army Sikorsky YR-4B helicopter, piloted by Lt. Carter Harmon, with a 175-horsepower engine, was dispatched to try a rescue. In the heat and humidity of Burma, the YR-4B could carry only one passenger at a time, straining its engine past the redline just to lift off. Despite these difficulties, over the two day period 25-26 April 1944, four trips were made in and out to a secure location where the men could safely transfer to a Stinson L-5 Sentinel. The final hasty liftoff was accomplished just as shouting soldiers burst from the jungle. As Lt. Harmon learned later, the soldiers were not Japanese, but an Allied land rescue party that had finally reached the crash site. The great success of the mission encouraged the advocates of helicopters, but few other missions actually took place during WW II.
In China during the final months of the war, Sikorsky R-6As provided search and rescue services. Right after the end of the war, in November 1945, an Army Sikorsky R-5 helicopter was used to rescue two men from a stranded oil barge in a storm. In spite of their limitations, military leaders realized the potential of helicopters for evacuation, search and rescue, although bigger helicopters with greater internal capacity and more powerful engines were needed.
Medical Evacuation Helicopters of WW II
* Sikorsky R-4 Helicopter
* Sikorsky R-5 Helicopter
* Sikorsky R-6 Helicopter
Find More Information on the Web
There are many fine websites that have additional information on this topic, too many to list here and too many to keep up with as they come and go. Use this Google web search form to get an up to date report of what's out there.
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They really have no use in game though, whether or not they had a role in WWII.
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They used the Helicopters in 1944 for pickups and were not very much used during 1940's but they were used, how can you fight when i have evidence about this? You would like to have Helicopters wouldn't you?
That only leaves the rest of your initial post . . . :rolleyes:
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They really have no use in game though, whether or not they had a role in WWII.
Why don't they? Give me a point why couldn't this be a good idea?
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Why don't they? Give me a point why couldn't this be a good idea?
There is no rescue in game. That was there primary role I believe.
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Dude are there seriously that many idiots in one game? THE ROLE FOR THE HELICOPTER IS TO PICK UP EJECTED PILOTS, IF YOU CANT DEAL WITH IT DON'T POST ANOTHER REPLY. AS FOR EVERYONE ELSE, GO TO THE SIGHT AND READ AND SEE THE PICS OF THE HELICOPTERS SAVING PEOPLE IN THE 1940s.
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So, you want to fly for hours to pick someone up, with no payoff?
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Hours? AH decreases MPH on planes and they cant increase a pinch on helicopters? Besides i never said the helicopter was suppose to pick some one up far, far away. Short distance pickups. Heck whats wrong with that?
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Dude are there seriously that many idiots in one game?
Yes and you are one of them.THE ROLE FOR THE HELICOPTER IS TO PICK UP EJECTED PILOTS,
And as i said there is no rescue in game.
IF YOU CANT DEAL WITH IT DON'T POST ANOTHER REPLY.
Eveidently you can't "deal with it". Your topic asks good or bad. Your problem is you just don't like the answerers, too bad.
AS FOR EVERYONE ELSE, GO TO THE SIGHT AND READ AND SEE THE PICS OF THE HELICOPTERS SAVING PEOPLE IN THE 1940s.
Still like the avitard though. ;)
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Hours? AH decreases MPH on planes and they cant increase a pinch on helicopters?
Since when?
Short distance pickups. Heck whats wrong with that?
Still, why would you want to waste 10-15 minutes of flying time when you can just /.ef and get a new airplane?
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Hours? AH decreases MPH on planes
BS
and they cant increase a pinch on helicopters? Besides i never said the helicopter was suppose to pick some one up far, far away. Short distance pickups. Heck whats wrong with that?
It's dumb????
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No rescue options in game = no use for helicopters.
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Yes and you are one of them.THE ROLE FOR THE HELICOPTER IS TO PICK UP EJECTED PILOTS,And as i said there is no rescue in game.
Eveidently you can't "deal with it". Your topic asks good or bad. Your problem is you just don't like the answerers, too bad.
Still like the avitard though. ;) Yes and i Bronk are a complete idiot unable to see that Valerio has a good idea and everyone else are idiots like me for not understanding it.
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:cry :cry :cry :cry :cry
Ohh and Squeak squeak squeak
Thats what I got out of this post.
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Can you explain how waiting to be picked up by a chopper is preferable to just towering, Valerio?
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Thats what I got out of this post.
:lol
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THREAD ENDED, IDEA CANCELED AND BRONK HAS THE BRAIN OF DONKEY TURD MIXED WITH DONKEY URINE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR KIND REPLIES, I WONT POST ANOTHER HELICOPTER POST OK?
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THREAD ENDED, IDEA CANCELED AND BRONK HAS THE BRAIN OF DONKEY TURD MIXED WITH DONKEY URINE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR KIND REPLIES, I WONT POST ANOTHER HELICOPTER POST OK?
Translated
"I have lost the argument and will now fling poo."
Way to go monkey boi. :aok
Good Idea on not posting anymore. :aok
Still, the avitard is nice.
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bad idea....only helicopter i have ever heard of being used was German, it was barely even a helicopter. it went like 50MPH or something at most, inviting target for anything. youd be wasting your time flying one. taking an M8 is faster, and an M3 is about the same.
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YES AND THE USS ARIZONA WAS IN WWII DO YOU READ YOUR HISTORY ABOUT WWII?
People the USS Arizona sank in WWII along with its two medical rescue helicopters.
People? Don't you read? I think everyone knows the japs sank it...
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WOW!
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bad idea....only helicopter i have ever heard of being used was German, it was barely even a helicopter. it went like 50MPH or something at most, inviting target for anything. youd be wasting your time flying one. taking an M8 is faster, and an M3 is about the same.
You don't read very well, do you? American's operated Sykorskies in the Pacific in 1944.
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we need n00kz more then choppers.
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YES AND THE USS ARIZONA WAS IN WWII DO YOU READ YOUR HISTORY ABOUT WWII?
People the USS Arizona sank in WWII along with its two medical rescue helicopters.
Valerio, I can see the resting place of the Arizona from my backyard. I've been there MANY times, in fact, im going again on memorial day. I don't recall EVER hearing ANYTHING about helicopters, and unless they are invisible, the photos of the Arizona on the morning of December 7th show no Helos, nor are there any of the necessary provisions for the maintenance of Helos on her, or ANY other Battleships of her time. The Missouri had a PAD for Helos, AFTER the war, but that's about it. Helicopters WERE in World War Two. They WEREN'T on the Arizona.
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Helicopters in WW2??? Are you serious? :huh
There were helicopters BUT, they were not used in a military role. Rotary wing technology was still in its infancy and not ready to be put on the battlefield.
I don't believe there was a single chopper shot down in action during all of WW2 so, pointless imo. :rolleyes:
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Helicopters in WW2??? Are you serious? :huh
There were helicopters BUT, they were not used in a military role. Rotary wing technology was still in its infancy and not ready to be put on the battlefield.
I don't believe there was a single chopper shot down in action during all of WW2 so, pointless imo. :rolleyes:
Technically, SAR IS military related, and there were a few used for that by Germany IIRC. But no gunships, no combatants or anything else like that of course.
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Military related? Yes. Combat application? No.
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Still like the avitard though. ;)
Awww . . . you shamed it right off of him. ;)
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Awww . . . you shamed it right off of him. ;)
Think the fling poo comment did it?
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Think the fling poo comment did it?
No, I think it was the fact you found something nice to say in the middle of the verbal (or is it textual?) b-hind whoopin' you put on him. He was obviously searching for pure, unadulterated b-hind whoopin', and your niceties at the end of your posts were ruining his moment.
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we need n00kz more then choppers.
ZooZoo dont forget the sharks!!!!!!!!!! with laz0rz!
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There were no helicopters on Arizona or any other US ship in December of 1941. There were no operational helicopters in US service in 1941.
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End of discussion.
My regards,
Widewing
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Valerio, I can see the resting place of the Arizona from my backyard. I've been there MANY times, in fact, im going again on memorial day.
You are a lucky person! I was there in July and as concious as I am of that time period, I was still moved by it. I love how they moored the Missouri so that its forward guns stand guard over the Arizona
Happy Memorial Day
sorry for the hijack on this high quality thread. :devil
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I vote BAD
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Yea Im going to have to say not a good idea..
Besides people would get mad and cancle their subsricptions, causeing this site and game to be cancled forever. :salute Because we must all fold to what someone else "may" get mad at. I have learned from this site to keep your ideas where they belong..in your own head.
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Obviously planes can shoot at the helicopters and the helicopters will have 2x50 calibers (Browning machine gun) on each side to shoot at enemy troops and close range planes. The amount of ammo that should be mounted on the 50 cals should be 250 rounds each.
Also, you cant say that this is stupid like having subs or making more GV's because it comes into the fact that AH is an air rial combat game and helicopters are in that category.
Didn't WWII medical rescue helicopters mount 4 20mm cannon as opposed to 2 .50s? (http://www.clicksmilies.com/s1106/spezial/Sarge/Whatever_anim.gif)
I'm not saying that it's stupid like having subs, because as you pointed out AH IS an aerial combat game. And Helicopters and WWII fighters duked it out all the time. Heck even George Bush Sr. was picked up by a Helicopter after he was shot down in WWII. Oh, wait, That was a submarine that picked him up! We need subs in the game!
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Think the fling poo comment did it?
:rofl :rofl :rofl :aok
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Another thread, another dead kitten.
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IIRC, a focke acgh..however u spell it...could carry troops? maybe thats why he wants it
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The thread starter seems to have missed his mark.
I'm not advocating for helicopters, but to be included, think of them as a flying jeep without a 50 cal., and using GV spawn points. Advocating for pilot rescue has been asked for many times over the years, so that's probably not going to get your helicopter. No, the best you might, and it's a big might, someday have, would be a helicopter capable of carring one or two troops, or a load of vehicle supplies. You'd be lucky to have a pistol for protection. Still, it would be fun to see how htc would implement it. Ten helicopters skimming over the treetops would be something to see even if it never happened in wwii.
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Another thread, another dead kitten.
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that photo never gets old
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I'm all for a well placed smiley or two but this stuff is just plain stupidity.
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wow 140 :rofl smilies
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I'm all for a well placed smiley or two but this stuff is just plain stupidity.
Maybe a wish is in order to have it like the old forums, where you couldn't put but so many smilies in a post? :confused:
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THREAD ENDED, IDEA CANCELED AND BRONK HAS THE BRAIN OF DONKEY TURD MIXED WITH DONKEY URINE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR KIND REPLIES, I WONT POST ANOTHER HELICOPTER POST OK?
I like the idea, maybe we can also model the German aircraft that bombed Pearl Harbor.
I hear Airwolf and Blue Thunder went back into time to prevent Pearl Harbor, but were foiled by the lack of a power source to fully appear in that period due to the current fuel prices.
Oh yea, "IN!"
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YES AND THE USS ARIZONA WAS IN WWII DO YOU READ YOUR HISTORY ABOUT WWII?
People the USS Arizona sank in WWII along with its two medical rescue helicopters.
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Do you read yours? They had recovery aircraft and spotting aircraft that could be launched from catapults, but no helicopters.
Wow, and German Aircraft bombing Pearl Harbor? What are you getting this from, I've seen stupid stuff, but "a stupid is, is a stupid does" isnt gonna cut it here.
And widewing already beat me to the end of dicussion part. If you are getting this from a game STOP PLAYING IT! :lol
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I'd bet money you own an extensive lightsabre collection... :uhoh
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I'd bet money you own an extensive lightsabre collection... :uhoh
(http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/5097/starwarskidkk1.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)
Darth Valerio?
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Kudos to Valerio for another failed post...
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Poor guy, must be thinking of some other sort of stupid thing. :lol
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Helicopters in WW2??? Are you serious? :huh
There were helicopters BUT, they were not used in a military role. Rotary wing technology was still in its infancy and not ready to be put on the battlefield.
I don't believe there was a single chopper shot down in action during all of WW2 so, pointless imo. :rolleyes:
Guys, he's the idiot who said that the Germans attacked Pearl Harbor, let him have his fun.
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ZooZoo dont forget the sharks!!!!!!!!!! with laz0rz!
:rock