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Title: Ki-43
Post by: QRS on June 03, 2008, 02:52:28 PM
Hello All.

I’m a new guy on the block, but have enjoyed flying on, and off line in WW-II Combat Flight Sims since 1999.

When I signed on to “Ace High II” I was truly amazed, both by it’s realistic graphics and the “depth” of what was available.

There was but one disappointment.  My favorite aircraft, the Ki-43 “Oscar” was not available.  For those of us who love to fly turn fighters or, as some AH folks call them “Knife Fighters,” the Ki-43 is indeed one of the top three that were flown in WW-II.
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Quote from:  “The Complete Guide To Fighters and Bombers Of The World”

“…development was abandoned until spring 1941, when combat flaps were added, thus increasing the wing area as required and creating a fighter that could turn inside the highly maneuverable Zero.  This modified version, which could dogfight with the best of the Allies’ fighters, went into service in June 1941 and proved very successful despite its light armament.  Most of Japan’s Army fighter aces built up their scores while flying the Ki-43.”

“…this aeroplane, code names “Oscar” by the Allies, was deployed in greater numbers than any other Imperial Army fighter, and was second only to Navy’s Zero in terms of sheer numbers in the Japanese inventory.”
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Quote from:  “Aircraft of WW-II”

“…production totaling more than 5,900 aircraft right up to the end of the war.”

“Armament: 12.7mm fixed forward firing machine guns in the upper part of the forward fuselage, plus an external bomb load of 500 kg.”
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I truly believe that this nimble fighter would be a great addition to the “Aces high” inventory. 
I therefore respectfully request that the Nakajima Ki-43 Huyabusa (Peregrine Falcon) be added to the “Aces High” inventory of available fighters for Early, Mid, and Late War arenas.

Thanks for listening,
QRS
Title: Re: Ki-43
Post by: trotter on June 03, 2008, 04:55:53 PM
I agree, for the most part, but think that we would have to have the Ki-43IIIb simply for the sake of armament (two nose mounted 20mm Ho-5 rather than the two nose mounted 12.7mm on all other models). The III model also had a dramatically improved top speed from the other models. The earlier models would simply be unacceptable for this game, save for very limited use in scenarios. The IIIb model might see similiar usage to the Ki-84 that we have.

Yes, any additions to the Japanese plane set would be nice, and I would certainly like to see the 43IIIb. Good first post QRS, and welcome to the boards.
Title: Re: Ki-43
Post by: waystin2 on June 03, 2008, 05:17:19 PM
I am in on the Oscar! :aok  It's on my personal wishlist and would be a great add to AH.
Title: Re: Ki-43
Post by: DPQ5 on June 03, 2008, 05:32:05 PM
welcome to the game QRS


and I do agree we need the oscor.
Title: Re: Ki-43
Post by: Wmaker on June 03, 2008, 05:44:38 PM
I agree, for the most part, but think that we would have to have the Ki-43IIIb simply for the sake of armament (two nose mounted 20mm Ho-5 rather than the two nose mounted 12.7mm on all other models).

AFAIK IIIb -variant never entered production, couple of prototypes were made before the war ended. IMO KI-43 should be included in the next version which adds new units into the game. If we look at the planeset it represents one of the biggest holes in the planeset. It's light armament is a big drawback but it would be absolute blast to fly.

KI-43 would probably be one of the most fun WWII fighters just to fly around and aerobat. Of course it's no Edge 540 but to have a radial engined plane with over 1000hp which can do over 500km/h and still be highly maneuverable and able to snap roll like in the link below...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDt6jOOIkpU&NR=1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDt6jOOIkpU&NR=1)

...well I think that equals FUN! :)

Interesting reading (some contradicting points):

http://yarchive.net/mil/ki-43.html (http://yarchive.net/mil/ki-43.html) (Does anyone know the backround of this author?)
http://www.warbirdforum.com/japan.htm (http://www.warbirdforum.com/japan.htm)
http://www.warbirdforum.com/rdunn43.htm (http://www.warbirdforum.com/rdunn43.htm)
Title: Re: Ki-43
Post by: E25280 on June 03, 2008, 07:17:19 PM
I agree, for the most part, but think that we would have to have the Ki-43IIIb simply for the sake of armament (two nose mounted 20mm Ho-5 rather than the two nose mounted 12.7mm on all other models). The III model also had a dramatically improved top speed from the other models. The earlier models would simply be unacceptable for this game, save for very limited use in scenarios. The IIIb model might see similiar usage to the Ki-84 that we have.

Yes, any additions to the Japanese plane set would be nice, and I would certainly like to see the 43IIIb. Good first post QRS, and welcome to the boards.
Think EWA and you have a competitive plane even if armed with "only" 2 12.7mm guns.  Not every plane needs to be a LWA monster to be added.
Title: Re: Ki-43
Post by: Jester on June 03, 2008, 10:50:59 PM
Welcome to AH QRS!   :aok

While personally, I just don't see the attraction to the OSCAR - many on here do. I am in agreement it should be added down the line as it was a very historical figure in most PTO battles.

Till we get the OSCAR - try the A6M2 ZERO - really close flight envelopes and the 20mm's of the Zero are usually only effective close in so it will kinda even out on armament.

Try it out in the AVA next PTO set-up if you want a more historical face off with Allied planes. The 49th FG always needs more Zero's as Targets for their P-38's.   :devil

GOOD LUCK AND GOOD HUNTING!

<S>!   :salute
Title: Re: Ki-43
Post by: moot on June 03, 2008, 11:13:57 PM
Sounds like a fun plane.  Welcome to the game QRS.
Title: Re: Ki-43
Post by: Pannono on June 04, 2008, 12:56:11 AM
kudos for the first first post ive ever seen that didnt involve i want B2, or i want subs
 :salute :salute
it would be a great plane
welcome to the game
Title: Re: Ki-43
Post by: Scherf on June 04, 2008, 01:27:23 AM
This plane was teh fun fun fun in Warbirds.

(Warbirds is an online game coaded by, uhm, some putz.)
Title: Re: Ki-43
Post by: Bruv119 on June 04, 2008, 05:43:21 AM
oscar is needed, get her dun HTC!

May I congratulate the initial post on its wording.   For all the new posters out there that is how one should request something!

 :salute


Title: Re: Ki-43
Post by: thndregg on June 04, 2008, 07:37:16 AM
  Not every plane needs to be a LWA monster to be added.

Wholeheartedly agree on this. I can never understand why Aces High invariably needs to be treated like an arms race. Early and Mid-war rides/variants are just as fun, and more challenging (and rewarding) IMO.
Title: Re: Ki-43
Post by: Pannono on June 04, 2008, 12:10:51 PM
*waits for noob to post saying:*
WE NEED A B-29 FIRST
lol
Title: Re: Ki-43
Post by: waystin2 on June 04, 2008, 01:14:12 PM
Wholeheartedly agree on this. I can never understand why Aces High invariably needs to be treated like an arms race. Early and Mid-war rides/variants are just as fun, and more challenging (and rewarding) IMO.

My sentiments exactly Thunder!  I enjoy the inventory of AC/GV front to back.  Each one has it's own special type of fun involved. :aok
Title: Re: Ki-43
Post by: Wmaker on June 04, 2008, 07:01:02 PM
:)

(http://hsgalleries.com/images/oscarcartoonjb_1.jpg)

Artwork by Jean Barbaud, http://hsgalleries.com/oscarjb_1.htm (http://hsgalleries.com/oscarjb_1.htm)
Title: Re: Ki-43
Post by: TonyJoey on June 04, 2008, 07:32:42 PM
All for it would be a fun addition. :aok :salute
Title: Re: Ki-43
Post by: Rambo Fan on June 04, 2008, 11:15:43 PM
I saw a video of this thing flying, it could turn like having a knife slice through water, i'd agree, all for Ki-43?  :salute Im IN.
Title: Re: Ki-43
Post by: QRS on June 06, 2008, 07:07:51 AM
Thanks much gentlemen for your support for this great plane as well as your kind comments.

QRS
Title: Re: Ki-43
Post by: QRS on June 06, 2008, 05:30:10 PM
The below is an interesting quote from a piece comparing the P-40E to the P-40N that discusses the Ki-43 (Oscar)  by:  Lt. Sammy A. Pierce, 49th Fighter Group/5th Air Force.

“…The Oscar was probably the slowest Japanese fighter in the theater and had very little armament, but it was a performing fool. An experienced pilot in an Oscar was not as much a threat to an experienced P-40 pilot because of the Oscar's lack of guns and the P-40's ability to take it, but he could send you home talking to yourself.”

Web Site:  www.P-40.com
(Note:  For some reason that URL didn't work.  I found it at: http://staff.jccc.net/droberts/p40/p40a.html 

QRS
Title: Re: Ki-43
Post by: GrimCH on June 07, 2008, 07:36:14 PM
The KI-43 was fun in Air Warrior, was labeled a dweeb ride,tho.

It would be nice to have it, especially for FSO or Scenarios. I'm sure it would be a popular ride in the MA :)
Title: Re: Ki-43
Post by: BaDkaRmA158Th on June 07, 2008, 08:05:01 PM
It has my vote.
Title: Re: Ki-43
Post by: Bino on June 08, 2008, 09:35:51 AM
Hai!  :aok
Title: Re: Ki-43
Post by: 442w30 on June 08, 2008, 10:50:22 AM
Another Hai vote for Oscar- perhaps both version so that EW would have one and MW the later version.  Both could come in handy for FSO and other scenarios as well. 
Title: Re: Ki-43
Post by: Becinhu on June 08, 2008, 06:42:09 PM
How about a Ki-27 "Nate" or a A5M4 "Claude". Both only fielded 2 7.7mm guns in the cowling, but the A5M4 was numerically superior to the zero at Pearl Harbor. But alas...while extremely nimble your gonna hafta work for kills.
Title: Re: Ki-43
Post by: Bino on June 08, 2008, 09:46:28 PM
How about a Ki-27 "Nate" or a A5M4 "Claude". Both only fielded 2 7.7mm guns in the cowling, but the A5M4 was numerically superior to the zero at Pearl Harbor. But alas...while extremely nimble your gonna hafta work for kills.

Where do you get your info, please?  According to what I've read, there were only a few A5Ms still in front-line service by December 1941, on board CVLs Hosho, Ryujo, and Zuiho.  And none on the six big CVs that attacked Pearl.

That said, I, too, would enjoy flying a nimble little "Claude" in AH.  :aok