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Title: Messed Up Airfield LayOuts
Post by: stephen waldron on June 03, 2008, 03:28:24 PM
    Yep. I found something else to whine about in Aces High.  Actually this has bothered me since the first week i played the game.   I'm talking about the layout of the runways.  Why are some bases in such difficult locations ?  Why would anyone put an airbase on a mountain top platue or surround an airbase with mountains.  Other bases (very few actually) are perfectly located and easy to land and take off from. 
     I think whoever situated the bases for Aces High got a little carried away with placing HARD to use bases on the maps.  Take the Arena Maps we started out with this June.  Barely one or two bases on the whole map were usable by heavy bombers.  Personally i think this amounts to an anti-bomber predjudice that seems to prevade the entire Aces High culture.  But without bombers, the game would Suck.
     Any future maps should take bombers and their airfield requirements more seriously.
 
Title: Re: Messed Up Airfield LayOuts
Post by: Bronk on June 03, 2008, 03:33:07 PM
 :rofl :rofl :rofl or should it be  :cry :cry :cry

*snicker*
Title: Re: Messed Up Airfield LayOuts
Post by: Krusty on June 03, 2008, 03:40:08 PM
He's got a point.

Some map builders give little to no consideration about the realities of airfields in WW2.

Airfields in WW2 were almost always in flat, open areas without large cliffs around multiple sides.*

In AH on several maps you will find a field directly against a 45-degree slop of a mountain (one tile flat, next tile 45 degrees).

On some maps it is just stupid.

I'm glad, however, that the majority of fields do not do this. Those that do are just dumb IMO.


* = rising cliffs, I mean. Some had drop-offs that weren't much of a problem
Title: Re: Messed Up Airfield LayOuts
Post by: APDrone on June 03, 2008, 03:44:11 PM
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,57377.0.html

Only 6 years late on that one..   :rofl

Title: Re: Messed Up Airfield LayOuts
Post by: Motherland on June 03, 2008, 03:45:45 PM
Why does it seem that every single one of your posts are about how the game is too hard and should be made easier?
Title: Re: Messed Up Airfield LayOuts
Post by: Bronk on June 03, 2008, 03:53:21 PM
He's got a point.


This has what's drawn my ire.
  Personally i think this amounts to an anti-bomber predjudice
 

HTC has given buffs plenty of consideration. Some might say a bit too much.
Title: Re: Messed Up Airfield LayOuts
Post by: moot on June 03, 2008, 06:16:55 PM
There's always at least one runway you can take off from in heavy bombers.  If there isn't, I reckon posting about it in the bugs forum would get HTC's attention.
Title: Re: Messed Up Airfield LayOuts
Post by: macleod01 on June 03, 2008, 06:20:32 PM
Personally i think this amounts to an anti-bomber predjudice that seems to prevade the entire Aces High culture.

Have you ever tried attacking a formation of buffs with a reasonable ok guy at the helm? Your stuffed, through and through, unless you really know what your doing. Think thats Anti bomber?
Title: Re: Messed Up Airfield LayOuts
Post by: Lusche on June 03, 2008, 06:30:07 PM
Every player can fly 3 bombers at once
He actually gun himself while doing it
He is able to shoot all guns pointing towards enemy at the same time, all by himself alone
He can fly with full throttle all the time,  when combined with some alt making intercepts more difficult
And on some maps he can lift off from a 5k " airbase on a mountain top platue" which is actually an advantage....
He can drops with an uncanny pinpoint accuracy with an easy-mode bombsight from any altitude

Yup, pretty much anti-buff.  :aok
Title: Re: Messed Up Airfield LayOuts
Post by: Motherland on June 03, 2008, 07:13:07 PM
I know 'I can do it with my eyes closed' sounds cliche, but literally anyone can calibrate our laser accurate bombsight with their eyes closed. Which is why I like the AvA/old style bombsight better.
Title: Re: Messed Up Airfield LayOuts
Post by: thndregg on June 04, 2008, 07:43:56 AM
I know 'I can do it with my eyes closed' sounds cliche, but literally anyone can calibrate our laser accurate bombsight with their eyes closed. Which is why I like the AvA/old style bombsight better.
I remember the old method in the MA, and I prefer it as well. Flayd & I were part of a bomber wing in our squad just for the reason that it was a challenging process to calibrate the old way. Not everyone could do it.
Title: Re: Messed Up Airfield LayOuts
Post by: Rich46yo on June 04, 2008, 08:22:41 AM
The real question is who is this guy when he's on his home computer versus his work computer?

Do we even know his ingame handle yet? Is he even past his 2 week freebie yet?



    Yep. I found something else to whine about in Aces High.  Actually this has bothered me since the first week i played the game.   I'm talking about the layout of the runways.  Why are some bases in such difficult locations ?  Why would anyone put an airbase on a mountain top platue or surround an airbase with mountains.  Other bases (very few actually) are perfectly located and easy to land and take off from. 
     I think whoever situated the bases for Aces High got a little carried away with placing HARD to use bases on the maps.  Take the Arena Maps we started out with this June.  Barely one or two bases on the whole map were usable by heavy bombers.  Personally i think this amounts to an anti-bomber predjudice that seems to prevade the entire Aces High culture.  But without bombers, the game would Suck.
     Any future maps should take bombers and their airfield requirements more seriously.
 
Title: Re: Messed Up Airfield LayOuts
Post by: BaldEagl on June 04, 2008, 09:25:12 AM
The real question is who is this guy when he's on his home computer versus his work computer?

Do we even know his ingame handle yet? Is he even past his 2 week freebie yet?

I was just thinking he was YOUR shade account  :O

--jk
Title: Re: Messed Up Airfield LayOuts
Post by: Krusty on June 04, 2008, 09:29:03 AM
Regardless of his bomber comment, I agree that putting airfields with steep hills at the ends of several runays is illogical, unrealistic, unhistoric, and just dumb.
Title: Re: Messed Up Airfield LayOuts
Post by: Bruv119 on June 04, 2008, 09:31:56 AM
a little tip,  use 25% fuel , build your speed up with flaps fully up.   Then hit one notch nearer the end of the runway.  Pull up to 1000feet and your drones WILL form up.

It isnt hard and I do hope you will refrain from posting such negative posts when you clearly do not know what you are talking about.

I can take off with lancs from ANY field and any direction you challenge me to.  

The bomber pilot in AH gets 2 "extra lives" in the form of the drones.  Not only increases the amount of firepower but also bombs.


 :salute


Title: Re: Messed Up Airfield LayOuts
Post by: BaldEagl on June 04, 2008, 09:37:56 AM
a little tip,  use 25% fuel , build your speed up with flaps fully up.   Then hit one notch nearer the end of the runway.  Pull up to 1000feet and your drones WILL form up.

Another tip, particularly usefull with the AR234's.  When you spawn onto the runway, hold the brakes until the engines get fully wound up, then release the brakes.  You'll lift a lot sooner.
Title: Re: Messed Up Airfield LayOuts
Post by: Rich46yo on June 04, 2008, 12:09:05 PM
I was just thinking he was YOUR shade account  :O

--jk

Nope, I like water maps. Course if I was to have a shade I guess I wouldnt say that. :uhoh
Title: Re: Messed Up Airfield LayOuts
Post by: Bronk on June 04, 2008, 03:20:26 PM
Regardless of his bomber comment, I agree that putting airfields with steep hills at the ends of several runays is illogical, unrealistic, unhistoric, and just dumb.
Well he should have kept it out because it had nothing to do with base layout. I've upped 262s only to have to tower because I was facing a steep hill.  So is HTC bias against 262 pilots?  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Messed Up Airfield LayOuts
Post by: NoBaddy on June 04, 2008, 03:55:59 PM
Regardless of his bomber comment, I agree that putting airfields with steep hills at the ends of several runays is illogical, unrealistic, unhistoric, and just dumb.

You left out "funny as Hell"...when the noob keeps trying to take off into the hill.  :rofl
Title: Re: Messed Up Airfield LayOuts
Post by: Lye-El on June 04, 2008, 04:58:14 PM
     But without bombers, the game would Suck.
     

No it wouldn't.
Title: Re: Messed Up Airfield LayOuts
Post by: Rino on June 04, 2008, 05:34:48 PM
     I think the hills can come in handy sometimes.  Like when you're rolling towards
the base after running out of fuel....or when you engage the turbo-gerbil 5000 on ur
GV to get into action faster  :D
Title: Re: Messed Up Airfield LayOuts
Post by: macleod01 on June 04, 2008, 06:50:33 PM
You left out "funny as Hell"...when the noob keeps trying to take off into the hill.  :rofl

Wheres betty with her film? Very apt at this point, wouldn't you say?
Title: Re: Messed Up Airfield LayOuts
Post by: Rosscoe1 on June 04, 2008, 11:21:03 PM
*has bettys film somewhere* it was so funny i had to keep it  :lol ill look for it
Title: Re: Messed Up Airfield LayOuts
Post by: Rambo Fan on June 05, 2008, 08:57:24 PM
You could always just change to a different field. Thats my strategy... Whats yours?  :confused: CRASHHHHHHH!!!!  :lol
Title: Re: Messed Up Airfield LayOuts
Post by: bobtom on June 05, 2008, 11:13:01 PM
Wheres betty with her film? Very apt at this point, wouldn't you say?

Here it is. http://www.56fg.net/members/yucca/upload/films/betty1.wmv (http://www.56fg.net/members/yucca/upload/films/betty1.wmv)
Title: Re: Messed Up Airfield LayOuts
Post by: SlapShot on June 06, 2008, 01:42:29 PM
LOL ... it's not that the airfields are messed up ... they are an "object" on a map. It is the actual placement of an airfield on the map terrain that is in question.

His in-game name is ... waldren ... and we will all be waiting with anticipation on the release of stephen waldron's super correct map that he is currently working on.

I guess challenges are too much for some to handle.