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General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: Selino631 on June 04, 2008, 03:49:55 PM
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Hey, I was wondering if someone could make some Italian skins for these planes. Italy did get some planes from other countries.
(http://personal5.iddeo.es/anabelju/fotosyuri/me109g10.jpg)
(http://modelingmadness.com/contests/italian/llarrya72acad109g.jpg)
(http://www.amv-lilliput.org/modelli/Docum/gomiero/p39qgomiero1rit.jpg)
That is the only picture I could find for the P-39Q. It is suppose to be a olive color with the Italian Flag or roulet( the circle symbol)
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Ok stupid question but what are the 2 cactus looking things on the wings supposed to mean? I don't have a clue?
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Its called the "Faces" pronounced fasees sorry if incorrect spelling, it is the symbol of the facist government of italy. to me it seems more like and axe with twiqs around it. its kind of like the luftwaffe's iorn cross symbol
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(http://www.eugene.es-krs.ru///camms/ar/297/pics/60_1.jpg)
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Its called the "Faces" pronounced fasees sorry if incorrect spelling, it is the symbol of the facist government of italy. to me it seems more like and axe with twiqs around it. its kind of like the luftwaffe's iorn cross symbol
The 'faesces', I believe how you spell it, was originally a symbol of the Roman Empire. Mussolini of course wanted to restore the glory of the Roman Empire to Italy. The faesces itself was an ax with a bundle of stick around it (or something similar) that represented the strength of many or unity or something of that nature.
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Actually it was the symbol of a roman magistrates power.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a4/Cincinnatus_statue.jpg/180px-Cincinnatus_statue.jpg)
It was used in alot of different contexts and came to actually symbolize the power of rome itself. The term "fascist" is derived from it.
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whats interesting is how often its used even today to symbolize authority.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b6/Senate_Seal.svg/600px-Senate_Seal.svg.png)
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We all know most country's started trading under the table during the war with others for plane designs. They later decided to join Hitler and not pay a penny for his scientists genius work, they made the Me 262, flying at 550mph. You did see that 109K, and that 109E with the Italian flag, what does it tell you? The Italians much loved and wanted the designs rather than having to buy them. Rather foolish, and part smart. Either way, Hitler never won, and to see a P-39Q under an Italian flag made it simple to say Russia traded with America, then was conquered by Nazi Germany, and Germany decided to produce more P-39's. Good idea to add more skins! ;)
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whats interesting is how often its used even today to symbolize authority.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b6/Senate_Seal.svg/600px-Senate_Seal.svg.png)
That is interesting humble. Known about the fasces for a long time, but never noticed it was used within the US government.
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We all know most country's started trading under the table during the war with others for plane designs. They later decided to join Hitler and not pay a penny for his scientists genius work, they made the Me 262, flying at 550mph. You did see that 109K, and that 109E with the Italian flag, what does it tell you? The Italians much loved and wanted the designs rather than having to buy them. Rather foolish, and part smart. Either way, Hitler never won, and to see a P-39Q under an Italian flag made it simple to say Russia traded with America, then was conquered by Nazi Germany, and Germany decided to produce more P-39's. Good idea to add more skins! ;)
No.
The 109 was a genius piece of machinery. Not only was it a sexy, well performing piece of art, it was extremely easy to build, even by Germany's comparitively small industrial capacity, making it one of the most produced aircraft of the war, with over 33,000, falling behind only the Yakovlev series and the Il2, the most prolific aircraft of all time with 36,000 or something crazy like that built.. Because of this, Germany supplied most of it's European allies with 109's- Italy, Finland, Romania, et cetera... BTW the two models pictured are a 109G10 or a G6/AS or G14/AS, and a 109G6. No Kurfurst or Emil ;) .
That being said, even Italy's homegrown fighters had an amount of German equipment in them. The two Italian aircraft we have in-game, the Maachi C.202 and C.205, both use the German DB605 (or was the C.202 powered by a 601?) engine. The C.205 has two German MG151/20 20mm autocannons.
I'm 99% sure that the P39 pictured is one sold to Italy post-armistice by the United States. Germany never manufactured any P39's.
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We all know most country's started trading under the table during the war with others for plane designs. They later decided to join Hitler and not pay a penny for his scientists genius work, they made the Me 262, flying at 550mph. You did see that 109K, and that 109E with the Italian flag, what does it tell you? The Italians much loved and wanted the designs rather than having to buy them. Rather foolish, and part smart. Either way, Hitler never won, and to see a P-39Q under an Italian flag made it simple to say Russia traded with America, then was conquered by Nazi Germany, and Germany decided to produce more P-39's. Good idea to add more skins! ;)
well acctuly the Italian Skins on the P-39Q and all other allied planes were the Italian Co-Bellgieant Air Force that flew with the allies after Mussolini was removed from power. the Aeronautica Nazionale Repubblicana (Italian Socialist Republic) was still loyal to Mussolini's so they flew against allies. Co-Bellgieant is Allied and the Socialist Republic is AXIS and defended Northren Italy until the end of the war.
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No.
The 109 was a genius piece of machinery. Not only was it a sexy, well performing piece of art, it was extremely easy to build, even by Germany's comparitively small industrial capacity, making it one of the most produced aircraft of the war, with over 33,000, falling behind only the Yakovlev series and the Il2, the most prolific aircraft of all time with 36,000 or something crazy like that built.. Because of this, Germany supplied most of it's European allies with 109's- Italy, Finland, Romania, et cetera... BTW the two models pictured are a 109G10 or a G6/AS or G14/AS, and a 109G6. No Kurfurst or Emil ;) .
That being said, even Italy's homegrown fighters had an amount of German equipment in them. The two Italian aircraft we have in-game, the Maachi C.202 and C.205, both use the German DB605 (or was the C.202 powered by a 601?) engine. The C.205 has two German MG151/20 20mm autocannons.
I'm 99% sure that the P39 pictured is one sold to Italy post-armistice by the United States. Germany never manufactured any P39's.
I could of sworn i was right. Either im reading my history book sideways or im high every time i read it. :uhoh
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I could of sworn i was right. Either im reading my history book sideways or im high every time i read it. :uhoh
Based on your statement, I'd say a combination of both :rofl
J/K of course.
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:lol I was probably high... :rofl
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We all know most country's started trading under the table during the war with others for plane designs. They later decided to join Hitler and not pay a penny for his scientists genius work, they made the Me 262, flying at 550mph. You did see that 109K, and that 109E with the Italian flag, what does it tell you? The Italians much loved and wanted the designs rather than having to buy them. Rather foolish, and part smart. Either way, Hitler never won, and to see a P-39Q under an Italian flag made it simple to say Russia traded with America, then was conquered by Nazi Germany, and Germany decided to produce more P-39's. Good idea to add more skins! ;)
Germany never conquered Russia.
Basically everything you stated in this post is wrong.
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Actually they did, just not the same way. Russia fell out of the fight when Hitlers panzer divisions crossed the main Russian city, so if they is another word for that please speak up. Its not conquered like Russia is theirs, need new word rather then conquered. Thats all. :)
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'Invaded' works. 'Conquered' implies that the USSR was defeated, but it was not.
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I've always thought that the insignia sort of looks like a bong. "toot! toot!"
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'Invaded' works. 'Conquered' implies that the USSR was defeated, but it was not.
agreed
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'Invaded' works. 'Conquered' implies that the USSR was defeated, but it was not.
Ah ha! Invaded, dame, motherland always has the right words ;). Thank you. :)