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General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: Jouster on June 09, 2008, 01:12:56 AM
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Ok so I'm probably misusing the term, but I think this would be really cool. Obviously real pilots had differing levels of resistance to G forces and pressure etc. Currently In game all pilots are in a similar state of physical performance. I got this idea off of a post in another area of the forum that pointed out for a totally different issue that currently all pilot performance is identical as far as physical characteristics go.
What if Hi tech could enter our current state of health in the equation to give our personal pilots more realistic reactions to physics. Blackouts, redouts etc.
Info such as height, bodyweight, blood pressure, cholesterol, VO Max, etc. to make your individual pilot react more realistically to your inputs.
Now obviously this would not be desireable to be totally realistic, because there are some of us that are in extremely poor physical shape. They could use it to grade pilot performance a few degrees either way from an average. This would have an interesting effect in my opinion of finding workarounds for your own shortcomings, or taking advantage of your own superior physical fitness. If there were those that felt it was too intrusive they could just opt to fly the default average pilot. It might also inspire some to start exercising??? LOL nah that's too much to ask. :rofl
I did search for such an idea on the forums and came up with nothing, so if this has been suggested please ignore it or flame away.
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Well, now that's one I definitely haven't heard before :huh
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I can see it now, all prospective pilots need to submit for a class 2 medical examination before their registration can be processed.
Don't forget the obligatory $75 processing fee :aok
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MAN! Can you imagine the coding that would have to go on to get this in the game! GEEZE!
Be a lot easier just to introduce "SCIENTOLOGY" into the game. :D
:salute
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I thought Combat Tour was supposed to incorporate something to this effect. I think it also said that as you fly throughout the missions you will be able to change your attributes. So you could have more stick pressure, or perhaps be more resistant to blackouts.
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I can see it now, all prospective pilots need to submit for a class 2 medical examination before their registration can be processed.
Don't forget the obligatory $75 processing fee :aok
Due to the ominous physical attributes of my brother's wife, the airplane would break under stress.... on the runway. :eek:
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Youd lose 30 percent of the player base due to being unfit to fly.
Strip
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But what if you're flying german planes? those dudes were supposed to be so Uber, if you listen to Hitler. Pull 2,894 g's and still stay conscious.
Now, if the game could be rigged directly to how much beer you're sucking back while online.......thank god for auto-takeoff..
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I say your pilots tolerance to the forces should be relative to how much you play and your style of play, for example the noob would be blacking out and puking all over his canopy at say 3-4 Gs, were as the veteran AH pilot would be rock solid.......and then I woke up.
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What if Hi tech could enter our current state of health in the equation
But then most of the AHII community wouldn't be able to bring the stick/yoke back ;) ;)
Good I dea all the same :)
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What if Hi tech could enter our current state of health in the equation to give our personal pilots more realistic reactions to physics. Blackouts, redouts etc.
I think you are kind of missing the point of the game. Everyone has the chance to be a super-duper air plane warrior....regardless of reality. :)
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I think you are kind of missing the point of the game. Everyone has the chance to be a super-duper air plane warrior....regardless of reality. :)
funny you should say that about a post here in the wishlist forum ;)
Possibly, what I was thinking was more to introduce a variable for the veteran pilots who may wish to be a bit more challenged in their piloting model. I think it would definately HAVE to be a choice between the current default pilot, or to use the physical model based on your own state of health, or more likely a few changed variables different than the default pilot based on your health.
It also seems obvious that this couldn't happen soon, if at all, due to coding issues and current user end hardware. Not even to get into privacy issues.
Just a thought.
Thanks for all the replies.
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I say your pilots tolerance to the forces should be relative to how much you play and your style of play, for example the noob would be blacking out and puking all over his canopy at say 3-4 Gs, were as the veteran AH pilot would be rock solid.......and then I woke up.
Now that would make things easier on n00bs. :rolleyes:
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In another nameless sim,you could adjust your pilots attributes.You had a 100 points that you could work with,vision,health and G tolerrance.This was alittle gamey if you ask me,in full realism you could just give 100 to G tolerance and never blackout. :O As for using our real health,sry,my medical records are confidential...
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This post actually made me think twice about what I was going to eat for dinner. I have to ask you guys- "Does this P-47 make me look fat?" :lol
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Ok so I'm probably misusing the term, but I think this would be really cool. Obviously real pilots had differing levels of resistance to G forces and pressure etc. Currently In game all pilots are in a similar state of physical performance. I got this idea off of a post in another area of the forum that pointed out for a totally different issue that currently all pilot performance is identical as far as physical characteristics go.
What if Hi tech could enter our current state of health in the equation to give our personal pilots more realistic reactions to physics. Blackouts, redouts etc.
Info such as height, bodyweight, blood pressure, cholesterol, VO Max, etc. to make your individual pilot react more realistically to your inputs.
Now obviously this would not be desireable to be totally realistic, because there are some of us that are in extremely poor physical shape. They could use it to grade pilot performance a few degrees either way from an average. This would have an interesting effect in my opinion of finding workarounds for your own shortcomings, or taking advantage of your own superior physical fitness. If there were those that felt it was too intrusive they could just opt to fly the default average pilot. It might also inspire some to start exercising??? LOL nah that's too much to ask. :rofl
I did search for such an idea on the forums and came up with nothing, so if this has been suggested please ignore it or flame away.
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Wow.. :rofl...Sitting on a scale while hooked up to a heart moniter might make it uncomfortable to play..Please tell me your kidding right?
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This post actually made me think twice about what I was going to eat for dinner. I have to ask you guys- "Does this P-47 make me look fat?" :lol
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Agreed .... :rofl
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Wow.. :rofl...Sitting on a scale while hooked up to a heart moniter might make it uncomfortable to play..Please tell me your kidding right?
Oh no! not what I was getting at, at all. You are kidding right? nothing would be real time hooked up to you using my method.
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First of all, I'm loving the hillarious responses. Second for those that are questioning the issue, the things you are bringing up were covered in my above posts if you read them carefully.
However, here is a rundown. 1st, this cant really be done due to privacy issues. 2nd all it would do if implemented would be to offer the opportunity to have your pilot reflect your physical issues in the game, which MAY be of some use for veteran pilots looking for more challenge. 3rd sure there would be a default pilot that you can use and its already implemented in the game. 4th This info would come from info you have collected about yourself from the DOCTOR (big strike right there) or other 3rd party methods of collecting data such as a blood pressure monitor, or a body fat percentage scale, or a pulse rate monitor that is given in hard data to hi-tech. In other words NO real time monitoring. As it stands I am eating a skinless chicken breast and whole kernel corn for dinner instead of pizza. So the idea is getting to me too. :eek:
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Jouster...
We have physically handicapped players, pre-teens, women, barely ambulatory old pharts, etc., that play this game. Only a very few would be physically able to fly an airplane in real life, much less in combat. Something like you suggest would ground a large segment of players, permanently. In what way would this make sense for HTC to implement?
SRI bud. Just because it's a neat idea....doesn't mean it makes sense........in the virtual world. :)
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1) install the game
2) pay 15$
3) "Sir, you are grounded for overweight issues, loose 20 kilos and try again"
AH ain't a wii fit ! :rofl
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Jouster...
We have physically handicapped players, pre-teens, women, barely ambulatory old pharts, etc., that play this game. Only a very few would be physically able to fly an airplane in real life, much less in combat. Something like you suggest would ground a large segment of players, permanently. In what way would this make sense for HTC to implement?
SRI bud. Just because it's a neat idea....doesn't mean it makes sense........in the virtual world. :)
simple solution already stated bud. fly the default pilot that is already available. I also realize it doesnt make sense, for different reasons. But hey, its a wishlist :)
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Its a creative idea but will not happen, i wouldnt want to give a bloodtest to my PC for the game... :salute
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I like it. But I'm still in awesome shape thanks to my Infantry standards of physical Fitness.
Why is the Sky blue? CAUSE GOD LOVES THE INFANTRY
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I think the physical attributes of our little pilot person should be adjusted. As I see it, he has amazing upper body strength in regards to being able to deflect the elevator and ailerons, even in planes that are SUPPOSED to get very stiff there over 300 IAS. But he also seems to be a little on the lightweight side of normal as far as G-tolerance goes.
As far as the idea that started this thread...it is a silly place, and we shall not go there. (But if you wanted to do that, why not some sort of "force-feedback device" around your neck that inflates and puts you in the equivalent of a rear naked choke while pulling Gs...wait, I know! Deaths and lawsuits!)
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Some kind of pilot stamina or endurance during fights might be nice. Currently we can pull and yank and back the planes endlessly. If there was a reserve of pilot endurance which would get spent in hard moves, we would have to start considering what one can do in a fight. Of course the stamina should rebuild quickly, but that would require a bit of easier flying for some short period of time.
I can imagine how the duels would change. One could try to tire the other one out before finishing him; make him spend his endurance, so that in the end the victim could hardly maneuver :)
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Some kind of pilot stamina or endurance during fights might be nice. Currently we can pull and yank and back the planes endlessly. If there was a reserve of pilot endurance which would get spent in hard moves, we would have to start considering what one can do in a fight......
I thought this was already incorporated :confused:. IIRC if you pull multiple high G moves, the onset of blackout becomes more severe at lower Gs. :huh
Someone please correct me if I'm wrong on this, but I'm pretty sure this has been there since AH1 days. :huh :confused:
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Perhaps a device to measure how tightly you are clenching your lower body for higher G-tolerance? :huh :O :devil