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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: ZetaNine on June 11, 2008, 11:17:33 AM
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Yes....I'm serious.
Never dug the guy...but he is a talking machine....very educated...and has a deep appreciation and fondness for american history...and could most likely slice obama to ribbons in a debate.
Considering we are now as a nation... more interested in style over substance, and treat the election process more like american idol...I think the Newtster could pull off a win.
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The Newtster would be cut to ribbons on the family values issue. There is a good reason he never ran for President.
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If you get Obama away from a teleprompter, he can be torn to shreds by anyone. He's an amazing story reader, but extemporaneous speaker he is not. No better than Bush at least.
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osamabama is an orator... a narrator... He could narrate stories or commercials well.... and of course...
read speeches.
I believe that he is a functional idiot tho.... Uhhhh uhhhh uhhh The less time he has to spend in debate and away from the teleprompters the better for him.
lazs
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(http://studentwebs.coloradocollege.edu/~l_jenkins/Billy_Mays.jpg)
Billy Mays could sell himself to America better.
"Wait there's more!"
"Vote now and I'll double your taxes!"
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osamabama is an orator... a narrator... He could narrate stories or commercials well.... and of course...
read speeches.
I believe that he is a functional idiot tho.... Uhhhh uhhhh uhhh The less time he has to spend in debate and away from the teleprompters the better for him.
lazs
I always thought to be a good orator, you'd have to do it without a teleprompter. Ever heard him speak when he doesn't have scripted lines? It's pretty bad. Tons of stuttering, confusion, backpedaling, and contradicting messages every time.
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Very true. He really struggles to find the right words when he is caught unprepared. This is why Hillary beat him in every debate.
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Very true. He really struggles to find the right words when he is caught unprepared. This is why Hillary beat him in every debate.
Hillary doesn't seem to be succeeding in converting support for her to Obama. McCain is going to get a lot of Hillary's voters. You know what they say about a woman scorned.
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You know what they say about a woman scorned.
Yeah... ya end up doing all yer own cookin on the BBQ, dishes pile high and it takes a "sniff test" to find yer cleanest dirty shirt.
am I close?
:lol
Mac
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Yeah... ya end up doing all yer own cookin on the BBQ, dishes pile high and it takes a "sniff test" to find yer cleanest dirty shirt.
am I close?
:lol
Mac
Yep. You have to take a hand in doing your other business too. ;)
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(http://studentwebs.coloradocollege.edu/~l_jenkins/Billy_Mays.jpg)
Billy Mays could sell himself to America better.
"Wait there's more!"
"Vote now and I'll double your taxes!"
:lol
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osamabama is an orator... a narrator... He could narrate stories or commercials well.... and of course...
read speeches.
I believe that he is a functional idiot tho.... Uhhhh uhhhh uhhh The less time he has to spend in debate and away from the teleprompters the better for him.
lazs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UsWo4ztiAto (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UsWo4ztiAto)
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-uc1FBGEUGs&NR=1
Good Bush stuff.
:rofl
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Very true. He really struggles to find the right words when he is caught unprepared. This is why Hillary beat him in every debate.
ok...bear withg me here? i've been so disgusted with politics for so long i haven't been following too much. but if hillary beat this guy in the debates, then why/how did he manage to get the nomination? :noid
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ok...bear withg me here? i've been so disgusted with politics for so long i haven't been following too much. but if hillary beat this guy in the debates, then why/how did he manage to get the nomination? :noid
His Kool-Aid was sweeter.
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ok...bear withg me here? i've been so disgusted with politics for so long i haven't been following too much. but if hillary beat this guy in the debates, then why/how did he manage to get the nomination? :noid
He won nearly ALL the straw polls, which Hillary's people didn't seem to think mattered. After some actual information got out about him (Reverend Wright, etc) Hillary won 7 of the last 13 primaries, crushing him in several
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Yep, he concentrated on the caucus States that Hillary's people were convinced didn't matter. Much easier to put together a few thousand loyal followers than to win a primary.
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Ahh... so the mighty hillary didn't lose... "her people" lost?
She is one of the most abrasive people on the planet.. she can't even win when she is running against another democrat. A racist, liberal socialist worse than her even.
lazs
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Considering we are now as a nation... more interested in style over substance, and treat the election process more like american idol...I think the Newtster could pull off a win.
Remind me, what is Bush's style?
Sure let Newt run! Along with Mac, Lazs, and RPM and MT.
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No way could I run for any office. I would scare the women and the womenly men. I would be unrepentent.
Nope.. what we get for candidates these days are like the bad guys in some Ayn Rand novel.
lazs
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Ahh... so the mighty hillary didn't lose... "her people" lost?
She is one of the most abrasive people on the planet.. she can't even win when she is running against another democrat. A racist, liberal socialist worse than her even.
lazs
OK lazs, she hired them so I guess she lost. I hope you feel better now.
OTOH, if the dems collected delegates using the same plan as the republicans, Hillary wins. Based on electorial votes, Hillary wins. Based on majority of votes cast, Hillary wins. So your contention that it was her abrasivness that cost her the campaign is just a little silly. She certainly had the support necessary to win, just a flawed strategy.
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No way could I run for any office. I would scare the women and the womenly men. I would be unrepentent.
Nope.. what we get for candidates these days are like the bad guys in some Ayn Rand novel.
lazs
Nope what we get is because, maybe, guys like you don't run. Come on Lazs, time to cowboy up :)
Sides, the O'Clubbers would have a hoot.
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It would be funny.. be like when they run some hooker or some negro guy caught in a cocaine and hooker orgy.
Mine would all be in the past tho but.. Like I said.. I would be unrepentant. Not sure what I could run for tho given my past record.
Imagine.. just for instance.. the first time I used the word negro. Imagine how my "arrest the employers" as an illegals solution would go over.
Imagine my views on women in the workplace and affirmative action paraded out...
Hell.. just from this board there would be reams of stuff that all the wussies would have a hissy fit over.
lazs
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Remind me, what is Bush's style?
Sure let Newt run! Along with Mac, Lazs, and RPM and MT.
Is? or was at the time he ran?
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lazs isn't pretty enough, he'd have to use me as his veep to get the chick vote.
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MT.. that picture of you in drag that you sent did not help your case in the least.
I admit that I am not pretty tho. high mileage and none of em were easy miles.
But MT.. I believe that hillary still lost in the popular vote of democrats did she not? She also did not get enough delegates. I have seen the math in several places now... can you show me a site where they say she really won?
lazs
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http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/democratic_vote_count.html
Estimate w/IA, NV, ME, WA* -
Obama - 17,869,542 47.4%
Clinton - 18,046,007 47.9%
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so they didn't even count some states...
I think also that the republican surge voting for her because she was so beatable had a lot to do with what is a very flawed popular vote.
Still.. I wonder why I got from the MS story a while back that she had less of the popular vote.
In any case.. just another election screwed up and whined about by the party of sore losers.
lazs
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The real number to use is
Estimate w/IA, NV, ME, WA*
Obama: 17,869,542 48.2%
Clinton: 17,717,698 47.8%
Spread: Obama +151,844 +0.4%
It's only fair to completely remove Michigan from the picture and use the numbers with the yellow highlight. That site includes the votes for Clinton, but zero for Obama because his name was not on the ballot. I'm not saying he would have won, but "Uncommited" did get 238,168 versus 328,309 for Clinton, and that site does not put any of those 200 thousand into the Obama camp.
It's a fairly good assumption that if his name were actually on the ballot and that site counted the names, she would not be able to claim popular vote victory.
[edit: fixed cut and paste stupidness]
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Theres too much dirt on Newt. He was having an affair while he was goin after Bill. Among other things.
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I was diappointed to see her leave, I thought she had more fight left in her. The last several primaries started to show Obama has a glass chin, he can't handle the big questions without the prompter and nevermind his "experience". While she didnt have a lot to draw on either, at least she HAD a Senate career to point to and have things to show for it. Obama hasnt.
Newt, as said, has lots of good ideas but his personal life is chuck full of skeletons. I commend him for the Contract with America. We really need something like that now, because Pelosi and Reid are just using Parlimentary procedures to block any and all debate on important issues.
McCain isnt my favorite person but when compared to Mr Obama, I really think Obama is going to have a really big thrashing come the fall.
The Veep process should be interesting.
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Well let's hope that what they say about the presidency is true - they have no 'real' power anymore.
Although I know a bit about the system and must say - that final 'veto' power is pretty strong even if it means poll numbers dropping and popularity amongst lawmakers dropping.
I just hope that if the unwashed masses decide to elect him, they will send him a map of the United States so he can figure out how many states are in the union and where North Dakota is located. (PSsssst, it's not on the east coast as you said Obama)
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i wonder how many of the 57 states obama will carry?