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Special Events Forums => Friday Squad Operations => Topic started by: Sled on June 16, 2008, 08:37:06 PM
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I want to be perfectly clear about this.
You guys are going to play FSO by our rules. or you are not going to be in the event.
PERIOD!
I don't care if I have to remove half of the squads and we go back to 200 people in FSO. That is fine with me.
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Translation .... we had another round of violations in frame 2. Basically the majority of one squad.
I have sent you all the squads COs, XOs and in some cases third contact person the objectives for the frame. I have moved the Special Rules to the top of the objectives so that they are read. I have posted the objectives on the AH forums and sled had another thread about violations in frame 2 on the board.
It is the responsibility of your COs, XOs or the third contact person for your squad to make sure your pilots understand the rules of the frame. In particular the 2nd life rule. I am posting objectives publicly because it seems that quite a few COs / XOs / etc. are not informing their pilots of the rules or making sure they know them. Hopefully somebody will read this and tell the pilots in their squad .. no you can't do that it is against the rules when somebody says .. hey fields are open lets up fighters again.
The violations in frame 2 that I am not talking are not about upping and when your comrades inform you that you only get one life and to land or auger now you doing it. Everyone makes mistakes and if you spawn or up and come right back down once informed you are violating the rules I am willing to cut you some slack.
I am not talking about those people who did get second lives upping in the wrong plane type (say SBD when they meant to be in something else).
I am talking about people who have been shot down upping in fighters later in the frame or manning the guns of bases and ships and actually engaging the enemy.
Let me make things perfectly clear who gets second lives:
- Only those on the Japanese side that flew B5N2s get second lives.
- Only those on the Japanese side who manned the ships for the surface aciton get second lives.
- Only those on the Allied side who manned the ships for the surface action get second lives.
NOBODY ELSE GETS SECOND LIVES EVEN IF THE FIELDS ARE OPEN.
Make this crystal clear to your rank and file. When somebody goes hey the fields are open at X the bulk of your pilots should be going .. not that is against the rules land now or auger!
Sled has alread suspended 11 individual pilots from 4 different squads over this from frame 1. There is no excuse whatsoever for this to happen again in frame 2. Sled will be contacting the appropriate squad(s) with additional suspensions / actions
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:huh :huh I thought they got it the first time. Maybe you should make it the first thing on the arena message in Frame 3? Or say it out loud again and again?
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Yah, I will ask Mystic2 or have one of the other CMs announce it before launch in frame 3 since nope not everyone got it. This time it was one squad where the majority of the squad upped and fought again.
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I hope this was a newer squad and not a veteran squad that did this.
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I want to be perfectly clear about this.
You guys are going to play FSO by our rules. or you are not going to be in the event.
PERIOD!
I don't care if I have to remove half of the squads and we go back to 200 people in FSO. That is fine with me.
:aok :salute
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What Stampf said. :aok
:salute
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It is a relatively new squad .. but they do have other FSOs under their belt.
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It's hard to understand how this could still happen with all the talk and warnings that have been going on as of late about this issue, it just shows very poor communication among a squad.
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:noid Or just a gross negligence of the rules, or blatant insubordination. I have only participated in 4 of these events, but it seems as if the "problems" are increasing with the numbers of participants. But I also agree with Kermit that the FSO just seems to keep getting better when it comes to the game play and strategic planning. :salute I only have admiration for those of you that have to run and police this event! :rock You Rock!
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They appreciate hearing that jammerz. It is a LOT of work for them and often a real pain.
Posts, e-mails, and PM's from players telling them how much fun they had is their reward. :)
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May I suggest an age limit for CO's and XO's of squads? I have been talking with a few of the younger CO's, and they have not even read the rules yet they were allowed to form a squad for FSO. It seems like the old saying, A few bad apples will spoil the bunch.
:salute
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May I suggest an age limit for CO's and XO's of squads? I have been talking with a few of the younger CO's, and they have not even read the rules yet they were allowed to form a squad for FSO. It seems like the old saying, A few bad apples will spoil the bunch.
:salute
I'm not feeling the whole age limit idea. :)
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May I suggest an age limit for CO's and XO's of squads? I have been talking with a few of the younger CO's, and they have not even read the rules yet they were allowed to form a squad for FSO. It seems like the old saying, A few bad apples will spoil the bunch.
:salute
Who were these squads who told you that?
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Younguns not reading the rules I have not come across. Not reading the ORDERS on the other hand I have. Had escort duty last FSO and the bomber group we were in charge of was lead by a youngun and hit the wrong target even though I told them several times what the actually objective was. I was told that the objectives were changed.... So it is entirely possible the don't read the rules either. From what I have read of the logs the offenders are not young though. Lay the hammer Sled. :salute
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May I suggest an age limit for CO's and XO's of squads?
While I would love to be able to match the maturity and professionalism of some FSO vets like Stampf, Daddog and Kermit, it is not fair to discriminate on the basis of age in regards to players.
We will post the rules and deal with the problem players if need be. You guys who have been around a while know we deal with this swiftly and consistently. Don't doubt us now :)
I'm not feeling the whole age limit idea. :)
You made me LoL, bud; and you know why
:lol
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That's good company there, Repo. :salute
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minor hijack... are you a fellow wv'ian?
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But the main idea of setting an age limit is for the maturity. I have a few young guns in my squad but they do as the orders say and ask myself and my XO's if they need clarification.
Perhaps a FSO 1 tour probation for the newer squads, or have them join with a "Big Brother" type squad for a tour so they see how things are done.
I'm not feeling the whole age limit idea. :)
Goldy of course would be left out. And those other leaders who have proven them selfs with him.
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May I suggest an age limit for CO's and XO's of squads?
I would rather do that then some kind of IQ test, because I would fail and my whole squad would get booted.
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I would rather do that then some kind of IQ test, because I would fail and my whole squad would get booted.
sondog would make it :rock
Cheers,
gusman44
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Mystic yes I am. So is my squadmate Harp. I know Nefarious lives only a few miles from me but I have yet to meet him in person.
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A few miles... I must of forgotten! I was under the impression you were a couple of hours. Sorry about that, I have a horrible memory. Where are you at again?
Edit: Wait. I think I remember... Fairmont?
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Close...Bridgeport
Harp was in Morgantown, but he got transferred to Martinsburg.
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Ahh... Bridgeport. Yeah I work over on Langtown Road, near Oliverios and Bridgeport Tire. My Co-Worker Brian lives on Stout Street over there.
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I live about 1/4 mile from Oliverio's
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ROFL... you got it gusman! :D
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Hey Guys,
Sorry for my part in re- upping in fame 1. I was having joystick problems and ditched and re upped. I know now that this was wrong and won't happen again. This was only my 3RD FSO. Please forgive me.
Your brother in Arms, tireking
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Tireking, so you know....
If you have problems like that, let the Setup CM know. They wont have any problems letting you back up within the first 15 minutes of the frame. Outside of that, Disco's only. After T+30, no reups except for authorized 2nd lives.
If we know about it, it is much, much easier for the Admin's to score.
:aok
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Tireking, so you know....
If you have problems like that, let the Setup CM know. They wont have any problems letting you back up within the first 15 minutes of the frame. Outside of that, Disco's only. After T+30, no reups except for authorized 2nd lives.
If we know about it, it is much, much easier for the Admin's to score.
:aok
Also,
If you are having that kind of issue then you need to resolve it before you up multiple AC. FSO is not a place to test your JS.
Also if your JS goes bad 65min into the event, then you are done for the night. Same as a disco
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Hey Guys,
Sorry for my part in re- upping in fame 1. I was having joystick problems and ditched and re upped. I know now that this was wrong and won't happen again. This was only my 3RD FSO. Please forgive me.
Your brother in Arms, tireking
Just a tip. Get to the FSO 15 minutes early at least. If you were flying in the other arena's completely shut down AH then re start it and re log into the FSO arena. Calibrate your joystick at the start of every FSO. I know it sounds like a pain but i used to have constant joystick problems in FSO's but once i started using the above method i never had a problem again. Good luck.
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Just a little side note here, we had quite a few pilots crash on take-off from the cv at the start as it was turning from the words FIELDS ARE NOW OPEN GO GO GO!, my self included. I do believe this was looked at as accidental so no harm no foul right? I also discod in my B5N ( naturaly just as we got to target) but I waited for my squad to die ( and they did with heroism ) and re-upped for my second life in an A6M. This too was cool right?
And I do want to thank the staff and planners for all the time and effort they make in making this a fun and fair event for all those who are concened...you are a bunch of geeks! I'm in good company! <<S>> :salute :rock