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Title: New Spitfire
Post by: Yarbles on June 20, 2008, 08:21:50 AM
For our next plane in the game I reccomend a later war Seafire. I will give more info on this when I have looked in my spit books again but if anyone wants to do the research for me go ahead :D and explain why we need one.
Title: Re: New Spitfire
Post by: DaveJ on June 20, 2008, 09:22:46 AM
We have enough Spitfires.

Seriously, the Spixteeen should be enough for you people!
Title: Re: New Spitfire
Post by: Yarbles on June 20, 2008, 09:31:32 AM
We have enough Spitfires.

Seriously, the Spixteeen should be enough for you people!

Not when launching from Carrier ;)

I agree we have enough otherwise but we need a British late war carrier bourne fighter. US has FM2, F6F and a whole hanger full of F4'S.
Title: Re: New Spitfire
Post by: SmokinLoon on June 20, 2008, 09:59:09 AM
No more Spitfires.  Far too many other aircraft that deserve the attention of HTC.  The Spitfires are well represented.
Title: Re: New Spitfire
Post by: Rich46yo on June 20, 2008, 10:35:21 AM
How about the Firefly then?

I think it would fit in well as a CV born Jabo with 4 cannon. http://www.airpages.ru/cgi-bin/epg.pl?nav=uk22&page=firefly
Title: Re: New Spitfire
Post by: SgtPappy on June 20, 2008, 11:29:03 AM
I think the Seafire III should be added since it was far more common than our Seafire IIc and the III entered service in Nov 43, putting it in mid-late war arenas.

However, it should be the last aircraft added after all the others are added, namely an Axis transport and bomber.
Title: Re: New Spitfire
Post by: waystin2 on June 20, 2008, 11:54:57 AM
For our next plane in the game I reccomend a later war Seafire. I will give more info on this when I have looked in my spit books again but if anyone wants to do the research for me go ahead :D and explain why we need one.

Hello Yarbles,

I would recommend that you post this with a little bit more info in the wishlist forum.  I support the idea of another Seafire Variant being added to the game.

Seriously, the Spixteeen should be enough for you people!

Hello DaveJ,

Do we have to have this conversation again?

<Salute>
Title: Re: New Spitfire
Post by: Yarbles on June 20, 2008, 12:09:39 PM
Hello Yarbles,

I would recommend that you post this with a little bit more info in the wishlist forum.  I support the idea of another Seafire Variant being added to the game.

Hello DaveJ,

Do we have to have this conversation again?

<Salute>

Then that is what I shall do, though if anyone else wants to chip in good.  :D 
Title: Re: New Spitfire
Post by: Kev367th on June 20, 2008, 12:39:20 PM
I think the Seafire III should be added since it was far more common than our Seafire IIc and the III entered service in Nov 43, putting it in mid-late war arenas.

However, it should be the last aircraft added after all the others are added, namely an Axis transport and bomber.

Even changing our current Seafire IIc to the more common L IIc would go a long way.
Our current IIc seems to be a sort of cross between an early Vb provided by the RAF to the Navy/FAA, but with 120 rounds of cannon as in later ones. 
Most produced II was the L IIc, the small batch of early IIc's were very quickly re-engined to Merlin 32's and also became L IIc's.

So what they had -

IIc - Very small number of initial Seafires with Merlin 45/46 (quickly re-engined to L IIc specs)
L IIc - Lions share of the 400 odd Seafires II's produced.
L III - Most produced wartime Seafire, over 1200.
There were also a handfull of Seafire F III's fitted with cameras and re-designated FR III's.

Although I've not played for a while, every scenario that I played in would have had the historically used L III if available, but had to sub the L IIc.

Title: Re: New Spitfire
Post by: Guppy35 on June 20, 2008, 01:27:28 PM
I'd happily trade in the IIc for the LIII
Title: Re: New Spitfire
Post by: waystin2 on June 20, 2008, 02:04:05 PM
I'd happily trade in the IIc for the LIII


Hello Guppy,

You do know it only has a single engine right?   :rofl
Title: Re: New Spitfire
Post by: Guppy35 on June 20, 2008, 06:09:13 PM
Hello Guppy,

You do know it only has a single engine right?   :rofl

I've been a real life Spit history nut far longer then I've flown flight sims :)

38 is my AH bird...unless they get a Spit XII in here of course :aok
Title: Re: New Spitfire
Post by: DaveJ on June 20, 2008, 06:22:31 PM

Hello DaveJ,

Do we have to have this conversation again?


Yes. Spit 16s ruin the game. That is all.
Title: Re: New Spitfire
Post by: Squire on June 20, 2008, 08:30:26 PM
Well, not according to some of us it doesn't.

...Yes, the Seafire L.III would be a nice addition, imho.  :aok
Title: Re: New Spitfire
Post by: Angus on June 21, 2008, 06:31:05 AM
Second that!
Title: Re: New Spitfire
Post by: Husky01 on June 21, 2008, 08:47:36 AM
Thirdeded hehe.
Title: Re: New Spitfire
Post by: CAP1 on June 21, 2008, 11:56:57 AM
For our next plane in the game I reccomend a later war Seafire. I will give more info on this when I have looked in my spit books again but if anyone wants to do the research for me go ahead :D and explain why we need one.

we don't need another spit. how about another p38? pr another russian plane? or another british bomber? or something different that would add tot he fun of the game?

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Title: Re: New Spitfire
Post by: CAP1 on June 21, 2008, 12:01:36 PM
Yes. Spit 16s ruin the game. That is all.

no, actually they don't. poor gameplay ruins the game, butr none of our aircraft do.

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Title: Re: New Spitfire
Post by: Bronk on June 21, 2008, 12:28:45 PM
Yes. Spit 16s ruin the game. That is all.
Translation : WAAAAAA the spit XVI killed me again WAAAAAAA
Title: Re: New Spitfire
Post by: CAP1 on June 21, 2008, 12:30:05 PM
Translation : WAAAAAA the spit XVI killed me again WAAAAAAA
:rofl :rofl
Title: Re: New Spitfire
Post by: waystin2 on June 21, 2008, 04:46:25 PM
poor gameplay ruins the game, butr none of our aircraft do.

I agree Cap.  At least on the poor gameplay part.  Not quite sure what the butter has to do with it... :rofl
Title: Re: New Spitfire
Post by: DaveJ on June 21, 2008, 06:29:24 PM
Translation : WAAAAAA the spit XVI killed me again WAAAAAAA

Translation: They are too uber and have no weaknesses. Any noob can climb right up like a rocket and kill planes with more E, etc. etc.
Title: Re: New Spitfire
Post by: Motherland on June 21, 2008, 06:32:53 PM
They're easy to fly, that's for sure, but they're generally easy to kill too as mainly noobs fly them. They have pretty insane, impregnable even performance if someone decent is in one though.
Title: Re: New Spitfire
Post by: moot on June 21, 2008, 06:55:50 PM
Ho-hum... Better yet, an Oscar, Beaufighter, more yaks and/or I-16, more russian bombers, another german and/or italian bomber, etc etc.
Title: Re: New Spitfire
Post by: Jester on June 21, 2008, 11:40:13 PM
There is a WIDE range of land-based Sspitfires already - IMHO if any of the Spit family needs modled it's the SEAFIRE LF.III for the Royal Navy.

 :salute
Title: Re: New Spitfire
Post by: Angus on June 22, 2008, 01:47:54 PM
Absolutlely.
There might be whining though....
Title: Re: New Spitfire
Post by: Jester on June 22, 2008, 02:10:33 PM
Absolutlely.
There might be whining though....

Like there won't be anyway?   :rolleyes:
Title: Re: New Spitfire
Post by: Bosco123 on June 22, 2008, 03:00:57 PM
I th spixteen is a good plane to fly, but of course I hate the plane.
IMO it should be perkerd and not the Spit14.

Oh and also perk the wirbly :aok
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Title: Re: New Spitfire
Post by: DaveJ on June 22, 2008, 06:45:06 PM
Absolutlely.
There might be whining though....


Of course there will be! You've got 6 different variants of the Spit already!
Title: Re: New Spitfire
Post by: Bronk on June 22, 2008, 07:06:31 PM
Of course there will be! You've got 6 different variants of the Spit already!
You do realize this was the brits main fighter right?  It's not like they produced say P-38/39/40/47/51 lets not forget f4f/fu4/f6f and all their different variants.
Title: Re: New Spitfire
Post by: DaveJ on June 22, 2008, 10:34:34 PM
You do realize this was the brits main fighter right?  It's not like they produced say P-38/39/40/47/51 lets not forget f4f/fu4/f6f and all their different variants.

Of course I do, but enough is enough with spits. The Spit XVI has everything you all could ask for in the LWA.
Title: Re: New Spitfire
Post by: Guppy35 on June 22, 2008, 11:24:20 PM
Gotta keep in mind that some folks don't want the 'bestest', but look for something that fits better for their idea of fun.  Kinda like a P38G driver instead of a 38L driver :)
Title: Re: New Spitfire
Post by: B3YT on June 23, 2008, 02:01:07 AM
the 16 is the best alround spit for E fighting with a 51 . but it's not great at a turn fight; good but not great . if you fly a spit IX right you can easily defeat a spit XVI . even a spit Vb will kill a XVI if flown right or should i say left?
Title: Re: New Spitfire
Post by: Bronk on June 23, 2008, 04:48:40 AM
Gotta keep in mind that some folks don't want the 'bestest', but look for something that fits better for their idea of fun.  Kinda like a P38G driver instead of a 38L driver :)
Shhh it's better to let him think so.  :noid
Title: Re: New Spitfire
Post by: Yarbles on June 23, 2008, 05:55:51 AM
Of course I do, but enough is enough with spits. The Spit XVI has everything you all could ask for in the LWA.

Can it launch from a cv now? :rofl
Title: Re: New Spitfire
Post by: Yarbles on June 23, 2008, 06:01:08 AM
the 16 is the best alround spit for E fighting with a 51 . but it's not great at a turn fight; good but not great . if you fly a spit IX right you can easily defeat a spit XVI . even a spit Vb will kill a XVI if flown right or should i say left?

Yes of course but if you think you have allot of skill and infact you dont and then you get shot down by a Spit 16; well if you have deluded yourself about your own abilities how hard is it to take the next step and delude yourself about those of the 16 ;)

I dont have allot of skill or ability and fly the 16 and fear what others see a lesser spits. I guess my ideal foe is a rookie who thinks hes a pro. When he augers he blames everything except himself :D
Title: Re: New Spitfire
Post by: Becinhu on June 23, 2008, 07:06:21 PM
The Spit VIII is a much better bird than the 16 anyway
Title: Re: New Spitfire
Post by: Newman5 on June 23, 2008, 07:12:12 PM
How about the Firefly then?

I think it would fit in well as a CV born Jabo with 4 cannon. http://www.airpages.ru/cgi-bin/epg.pl?nav=uk22&page=firefly

Mmmmm.....Firefly....*drool*   :aok
Title: Re: New Spitfire
Post by: Pannono on June 23, 2008, 07:13:47 PM
NO MORE SPITS!  :noid
gimme a sea hurri mk. I and ill be happy :D
Title: Re: New Spitfire
Post by: Jester on June 23, 2008, 09:07:13 PM
NO MORE SPITS!  :noid
gimme a sea hurri mk. I and ill be happy :D

Another slot that needs to be filled for sure.   :aok
Title: Re: New Spitfire
Post by: Yarbles on June 24, 2008, 05:30:11 AM
The Spit VIII is a much better bird than the 16 anyway

Must depend on your flying style I would guess. Sixteen rolls better and I prefer the gun package. Those 303's look effective but when yopur on the recieving end its just like tiny hail stones on the roof. "The bb guns".
Title: Re: New Spitfire
Post by: waystin2 on June 24, 2008, 03:18:16 PM
Must depend on your flying style I would guess. Sixteen rolls better and I prefer the gun package. Those 303's look effective but when yopur on the recieving end its just like tiny hail stones on the roof. "The bb guns".

You are right Yarbles.  It does depend on your flying style.  So I use the 16 more for BnZ because it rolls better when you have a lot of speed.  For straight up Turn n Burn or Yank n Bank I like the 8, becuse it's climb rate is as good as the 16 and turns slightly better than the 16(especially as altitudes increase).
Title: Re: New Spitfire
Post by: AAolds on June 24, 2008, 06:09:56 PM
The sea version of the hurricane would be cool addition.
Title: Re: New Spitfire
Post by: Pannono on June 25, 2008, 12:09:13 AM
Those 303's look effective but when yopur on the recieving end its just like tiny hail stones on the roof. "The bb guns".
They're pretty effective when you got 8 of em
sounds cool too :D
Title: Re: New Spitfire
Post by: Yarbles on June 25, 2008, 06:15:41 AM
They're pretty effective when you got 8 of em
sounds cool too :D

How close do you need to be?

I would guess they work best agianst Jap planes made out of rice paper and matches :D
Title: Re: New Spitfire
Post by: RTHolmes on June 25, 2008, 06:40:18 AM
d200 and they work just fine :)

out of interest Guppy why do you favour the XII? isnt it just a slower XIV?