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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: slipknot on June 20, 2008, 10:31:29 AM
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Always have been, always thought about it, worried, obsessed. Often, when in bed and unable to sleep, I would immerse myself in the sheer magnitude and totality of death, and how cruel and unfair and disrespectfully trifling it seemed.
Then, about 3 days ago, it just hit me. Some sort of revelation. Now, a brief disclaimer: I'm not religious at all, never have been, never will be. But that day, I just realized that this body I'm in right now doesn't represent the beginning of me, nor will it define the ending. No reason, no event, nothing I ate drank or smoked... Just happened.
Crazy thing is, it's made me so much happier. I enjoy talking to people a little bit more, enjoy the minutiae of life a little bit more. The moment I starting taking every minute as just another slide in this grand experience, rather than another tick towards a dark and inevitable end, everything became so much more clear.
I must live as best I can, fullfill as many of my dreams as I can, be as nice as I can to those who deserve it, and the rest will take care of itself. No matter what happens, or doesn't happen, everything will be alright.
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OK, I'll say it and probably get slammed as a result:
"You're not thinking of moving to Florida and taking up flying lessons are you?" :uhoh
j/k man :D
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Lol, naa... I'm even farther from trying to convince people of anything now than I was a few days ago. I'd love to get a pilot's license, though.
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Death doesnt bother me in any other way than that my daughter will be without a dad and the missus will have a crap time until she finds a new fella.
They are well taken care of tho and wont need money for the rest of their lives if i fold up, so that is taken care of.
I mean seriously, what is there to be a afraid of? You wont know about it anyway, you are just gone. Its not like you sit around and wait for skuzzy to hook you back up :)
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Always have been, always thought about it, worried, obsessed. Often, when in bed and unable to sleep, I would immerse myself in the sheer magnitude and totality of death, and how cruel and unfair and disrespectfully trifling it seemed.
Then, about 3 days ago, it just hit me. Some sort of revelation. Now, a brief disclaimer: I'm not religious at all, never have been, never will be. But that day, I just realized that this body I'm in right now doesn't represent the beginning of me, nor will it define the ending. No reason, no event, nothing I ate drank or smoked... Just happened.
Crazy thing is, it's made me so much happier. I enjoy talking to people a little bit more, enjoy the minutiae of life a little bit more. The moment I starting taking every minute as just another slide in this grand experience, rather than another tick towards a dark and inevitable end, everything became so much more clear.
I must live as best I can, fullfill as many of my dreams as I can, be as nice as I can to those who deserve it, and the rest will take care of itself. No matter what happens, or doesn't happen, everything will be alright.
Stay away from my house :O :O :O :P
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Stay away from my house :O :O :O :P
Give me your exact address and I'll make sure to avoid it at all cost.
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Give me your exact address and I'll make sure to avoid it at all cost.
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Lol, naa... I'm even farther from trying to convince people of anything now than I was a few days ago. I'd love to get a pilot's license, though.
stay away from the PRNJ please
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I'd have to know what it is to stay away from it.
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I'd have to know what it is to stay away from it.
PRNJ= Peoples Republic Of New Jersey :D
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I tend to stay away from there anyway, CAP, so I don't think you need to worry. Next time I drive up to NYC I'll look for an alternative route.
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I tend to stay away from there anyway, CAP, so I don't think you need to worry. Next time I drive up to NYC I'll look for an alternative route.
lolol....just kiddin dude......in all seriousness, NJ is much greener than most realize. i've flown over wharton state forrest, and out in the warren grove military operating area too. lot of oncontrolled airspace makes it nice.
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lolol....just kiddin dude......in all seriousness, NJ is much greener than most realize. i've flown over wharton state forrest, and out in the warren grove military operating area too. lot of oncontrolled airspace makes it nice.
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I've driven through much of the state. It's a strange juxtaposition of the pleasant, the odd, and the undesireable. It's green, with nice country roads and very charming rural areas, but then you can't pump your own gas. There's the pleasant and odd for you. Take a trip to the shore and you get more pleasantness, until you hit AC... Bingo. Undesireable. Looks and feels like a medium-security prison dumped out onto the beach...
A mixed bag, but then again, with Delaware and New York as your neighbors, mixed bag seems pretty much appropriate.
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Always have been, always thought about it, worried, obsessed. Often, when in bed and unable to sleep, I would immerse myself in the sheer magnitude and totality of death, and how cruel and unfair and disrespectfully trifling it seemed.
Then, about 3 days ago, it just hit me. Some sort of revelation. Now, a brief disclaimer: I'm not religious at all, never have been, never will be. But that day, I just realized that this body I'm in right now doesn't represent the beginning of me, nor will it define the ending. No reason, no event, nothing I ate drank or smoked... Just happened.
Crazy thing is, it's made me so much happier. I enjoy talking to people a little bit more, enjoy the minutiae of life a little bit more. The moment I starting taking every minute as just another slide in this grand experience, rather than another tick towards a dark and inevitable end, everything became so much more clear.
I must live as best I can, fullfill as many of my dreams as I can, be as nice as I can to those who deserve it, and the rest will take care of itself. No matter what happens, or doesn't happen, everything will be alright.
I hear that this happens just before it's your time.... :uhoh
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A budding optomist! Wonderful! ;)
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I stopped being afraid of it during my teen years.
That time when logic just hit me: well.. it will happen some day anyway so why worry about it?
taxes really scare the crap out of me though.
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Why do you believe that your body isn't all there is to you and that when it ceases to exist, along with everything else in the universe, you won't cease to exist, forever? A feeling? Faith? Wishful thinking?
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Why do you believe that your body isn't all there is to you and that when it ceases to exist, along with everything else in the universe, you won't cease to exist, forever? A feeling? Faith? Wishful thinking?
Don't know. Just do... Just like I believe that the Lakers winning an NBA championship makes the world slightly crappier.
I guess that faith is the word for it, as faith is, by definition, belief despite the absence of any evidence. Either way, though, whether it's belief in nothing, or belief in something, it's still belief, and devoid of evidence supporting either theory, atheism is as much a faith as structured religion. Usually, in my experience at least, Athiests have more faith in their beliefs than the religious do in theirs. To me, any group aggressively professing total certainty in something they cannot possibly know is just that--aggressively professing total certainty in something they cannot possible know. Atheists and religious fanatics alike.
No level of personal conviction, stubborness or certainty in any view regarding the greater meaning of things will ever raise that conviction to anything beyond faith.
So in short, yes, it must be faith, because I can never be certain. But it works just fine for me.
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Hope I didn't come across as critical as I share your faith that there is more to us than meets the eye. Just curious as to what you believe about your new born hope.
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Hope I didn't come across as critical as I share your faith that there is more to us than meets the eye. Just curious as to what you believe about your new born hope.
You didn't come off as critical, just made me think about it some more...
I really can't explain it, though. Was just driving one day and all the sudden had this feeling of security wash over me, stopped caring about all the little things that 10 minutes earlier would have bothered me.
The only thing I can compare it to is looking at one of those posters where everything is scrambled into seemingly random shapes and patterns. Stare at it long enough and a clear image emerges.
Who knows, maybe a blood clot had lodged in my brain. There was no loss of motor function or mental faculty though, so who knows.
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If your name has anything to do with a certain 'heavy' metal band.... I think you're getting too old for this :rock by the sound of it.
:lol
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When you think or worry about dieing, think about the alternative, living forever. Who wants to live forever? Nobody really. Sounds too exhausting.
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Death itself doesnt scare me. Ya if it was slow and you had time to think about everyone being left behind, wondering if they will be ok, that bothers me. The way I go also matters to me. Someone reading this tonight may end up in a chipper shredder tomorrow morning. There are better ways to go.
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If your name has anything to do with a certain 'heavy' metal band.... I think you're getting too old for this :rock by the sound of it.
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No, it's doesn't have anything to do with the band. I stopped listening to Heavy Metal after Metallica turned into a boy band.
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Roger. As you were. :salute
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Dying itself does not scare me. I think I'd like to go out fighting with everything I had so long as it's not against a long drawn out painful disease. What does bother me is the thought that this is all there is and that all there is will at some point in the distant future be relatively nothing making everything gone before meaningless. I just can't accept that. That I can't accept it does cause me to question my faith. Do I believe in more because the alternative is unbearable or because I can feel the presence and influence of God in my life?
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Dying itself does not scare me. I think I'd like to go out fighting with everything I had so long as it's not against a long drawn out painful disease. What does bother me is the thought that this is all there is and that all there is will at some point in the distant future be relatively nothing making everything gone before meaningless. I just can't accept that. That I can't accept it does cause me to question my faith. Do I believe in more because the alternative is unbearable or because I can feel the presence and influence of God in my life?
That's sort of like the paradox of giving to charity... Are you giving to make the recipient feel better, or are you giving because it makes you feel better?
Who knows. People's fears and insecurities run so deep that it can affect their cognative processes without them even suspecting. I was troubled before, I am calmer now. Maybe it is just a defensive strategy composed and executed by my subconscious. The end result, however, is that I feel better, so I might as well go along with it until it starts to interfere with my life.
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That's sort of like the paradox of giving to charity... Are you giving to make the recipient feel better, or are you giving because it makes you feel better?
My opinion: You should be giving for neither reason. The main reason to give to a charity is that you can make a positive difference in the lives of other folks around you, or in the community as a whole. If your contribution won't improve something, why bother contributing?
Will the recipient & you both feel better? Yep, but that's just a side perk [*emotion*], which does foster a likelihood for future charitable contributions by both, which leads to more improvement, which leads to future contributions, etc. The real thing is that you'll be making improvements for the community/members of the community around you.
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I'd have to know what it is to stay away from it.
Stay away from the THC.
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Ya.
We'll all be worm food soon enough.
No Worries.. might as well enjoy the ride.
Faith in the Lord helps in the rough spots.
-Frank aka GE
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I almost died earlier this week.. Was coming down from the mountain, as usual, at max speed on a mountain bike, smooth and steep asphalt road, wearing no protection except light biking gloves and shoes. Came around a tightening radius right hander that's usualy empty (at 4.30am), two slow-poke cars ahead, I go for the outside pass, but dont take the time to plan the pass... Before I remember it's there, I hit the thick and high dividing curb (maybe 6-8 inches or more), and bounce off it (would've cartwheeled but for the front wheel suspension) a mere inch or two past an oncoming car at maybe 60mph closing speed, almost perfectly head-on... The last thoughts before impact were wether I should try and hang off a bit more to cushion the course correction while I looked at the car ahead's rear view mirror to see whether the driver got a laught out of the sight... I wasn't even dreading it.
The day I die's gonna be a happy day, that's all I need to know :)
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It's good not to be scared of dying. Life is for living. Death should only enter into the discussion in terms of avoiding it as long as possible. As I believe death is the end, at least of our consciousness. It's not something to be embraced. I went under general anaesthic once. What startled me about it was the lack of perception that time passed. It was an on off switch. One second I was lying waiting for the operation then it was all over four hours later. If I died on the operating table that would have been it. Which is what death is. The end. Nothing to be scared of then. But nothing to look forward to either. Which I suppose is why so many people invent an afterlife. Wishful thinking.
I'd love to be wrong but I doubt it. Right now I believe my only chance of living on is through my baby son who even now is trying to grab the mouse off the computer table while hanging onto the printer cable. :eek: So must stop writing now. :rofl
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Forget about not being afraid to die anymore
It means nothing if your afraid to live
Combine a lack of fear of death. With a lack of fear of life..
Then you really have something
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moot, glad you finished your ride safely.
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What's got you so concerned? I recall the cholesterol thread a few days ago
I can relate to your "worrying". When my coworker nearly died, it set me into being healthier and treating my body better. I've become one of those healthnuts I used to so enjoy mocking!
I have no idea what's kept me worrying about heart health and all that. Perhaps because I'd had some sort of guilt for not taking health more seriously. Its not like I am in any sort of trouble, someone else's issue sparked my own awareness.
So like you, I'm trying to wind down and just live life. Not every pain and body ache is a symptom of bigger trouble, so I need to stop trying to over-analyze things :) Too much idle time,to many medical reads, me thinks!
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why not live until you no longer do? people never cease to amaze me.
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why not live until you no longer do? people never cease to amaze me.
I hear a lot of people who do things their way, do all the bad things and don't care. Then I see these people at the hospital, with great regret, for not taking better care of themselves.
And of course, a great many just shrug and say they've had the time of their life.
I'd like to be the latter :)
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Always have been, always thought about it, worried, obsessed. Often, when in bed and unable to sleep, I would immerse myself in the sheer magnitude and totality of death, and how cruel and unfair and disrespectfully trifling it seemed.
Then, about 3 days ago, it just hit me. Some sort of revelation. Now, a brief disclaimer: I'm not religious at all, never have been, never will be. But that day, I just realized that this body I'm in right now doesn't represent the beginning of me, nor will it define the ending. No reason, no event, nothing I ate drank or smoked... Just happened.
Crazy thing is, it's made me so much happier. I enjoy talking to people a little bit more, enjoy the minutiae of life a little bit more. The moment I starting taking every minute as just another slide in this grand experience, rather than another tick towards a dark and inevitable end, everything became so much more clear.
I must live as best I can, fullfill as many of my dreams as I can, be as nice as I can to those who deserve it, and the rest will take care of itself. No matter what happens, or doesn't happen, everything will be alright.
I'm happy for you, life will be so much better now! :aok