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Title: The Barnett Shale Continues To Screw Me
Post by: rpm on June 23, 2008, 07:49:00 PM
My property values have increased. I get royalties for my gas wells. I am paid to be a certified disposal site for drilling mud. They pay me to survey my land for further exploration. Now they want to dig water storage facilities on my property and pay me to let them.

I am going to own a private lake and get paid for it.

Gloom, despair and agony on me... :cool:
Title: Re: The Barnett Shale Continues To Screw Me
Post by: DieAz on June 23, 2008, 07:53:04 PM
question is; are they gonna fill it with fish too?
Title: Re: The Barnett Shale Continues To Screw Me
Post by: ZetaNine on June 23, 2008, 07:57:48 PM
question is; are they gonna fill it with fish too?

no way.......the gold content in the water would kill them.
Title: Re: The Barnett Shale Continues To Screw Me
Post by: lasersailor184 on June 23, 2008, 08:11:48 PM
I thought gold was non-toxic.
Title: Re: The Barnett Shale Continues To Screw Me
Post by: rpm on June 23, 2008, 08:33:27 PM
In a roundabout way they will be paying me to stock it. I get paid damages for the construction then paid for the water they draw from it.
Title: Re: The Barnett Shale Continues To Screw Me
Post by: ZetaNine on June 23, 2008, 08:54:59 PM
I thought gold was non-toxic.

not a james bond fan, eh?
Title: Re: The Barnett Shale Continues To Screw Me
Post by: lasersailor184 on June 23, 2008, 09:02:38 PM
not a james bond fan, eh?

Not a goldschlager fan, eh?
Title: Re: The Barnett Shale Continues To Screw Me
Post by: CptTrips on June 23, 2008, 11:28:21 PM
My property values have increased. I get royalties for my gas wells. I am paid to be a certified disposal site for drilling mud. They pay me to survey my land for further exploration. Now they want to dig water storage facilities on my property and pay me to let them.

I am going to own a private lake and get paid for it.

Gloom, despair and agony on me... :cool:


Ick.  You're letting put an injection disposal well on your land?  Or did you already have one.

I made damn sure my lease forbade that. You use well or city water? 


Pretty soon your going to have to turn Republican.  Property is theft.   :devil

Wab






Title: Re: The Barnett Shale Continues To Screw Me
Post by: rpm on June 24, 2008, 06:56:11 AM
No injection well. I was going to use an abandoned 4500ft well for one, but it was cost prohibative. The mud is surface farmed. This new program for water storage is cool. I had planned on building a new stock pond anyway. Now it will be a small lake and they will pay me to do it. :D
Title: Re: The Barnett Shale Continues To Screw Me
Post by: storch on June 24, 2008, 06:59:58 AM
GREAT NEWS congratulations, you will need all that money to pay for the calamine lotion you will be consuming when you move to mosquito-rica.
Title: Re: The Barnett Shale Continues To Screw Me
Post by: ZetaNine on June 24, 2008, 07:26:03 AM
Not a goldschlager fan, eh?

noooooooo........too "clicky"
Title: Re: The Barnett Shale Continues To Screw Me
Post by: DREDIOCK on June 24, 2008, 07:33:37 AM
Just goes to show how things are different in different parts of the country.

Here in NJ they would have simply condemned the portions of land they wanted to use and taken it over not giving you a Penny more then "Fair market Value" on the condemned land.


Also a lesson in how fickle fortune is.
Always amazed me how somepeople just naturally seem to have things fall into their laps.
While someone else can waste their life away working like a whipped dog fighting tooth and toenail to succeed and only end up sliding farther and farther down a hole for their efforts.
Title: Re: The Barnett Shale Continues To Screw Me
Post by: CAP1 on June 24, 2008, 07:47:47 AM
Just goes to show how things are different in different parts of the country.

Here in NJ they would have simply condemned the portions of land they wanted to use and taken it over not giving you a Penny more then "Fair market Value" on the condemned land.


Also a lesson in how fickle fortune is.
Always amazed me how somepeople just naturally seem to have things fall into their laps.
While someone else can waste their life away working like a whipped dog fighting tooth and toenail to succeed and only end up sliding farther and farther down a hole for their efforts.

and of course, for ""fair market value"" you can never replace what they've taken from ya. welcome to the PRNJ :O
Title: Re: The Barnett Shale Continues To Screw Me
Post by: DREDIOCK on June 24, 2008, 07:56:25 AM
and of course, for ""fair market value"" you can never replace what they've taken from ya. welcome to the PRNJ :O

Yup.
This place  is going from bad to worse in a hurry.

Im thinking once my mortgage is up.
Of leaving and invading Texas LOL
Title: Re: The Barnett Shale Continues To Screw Me
Post by: CAP1 on June 24, 2008, 08:23:45 AM
Yup.
This place  is going from bad to worse in a hurry.

Im thinking once my mortgage is up.
Of leaving and invading Texas LOL

i'm hoping my shop does me good enough that i can get a nice big chunk of land in one of the carolinas, with my own private airstrip. :D

must........escape.......nj :O
Title: Re: The Barnett Shale Continues To Screw Me
Post by: Skuzzy on June 24, 2008, 08:24:49 AM
Glad to hear it is working out for you.  My home value has dropped since they started drilling about a mile from me.  Everyone in the neighborhood was so freaking short-sighted they did not consider long term ramifications at all and did not care to listen either.

We used to have a nice looking neighborhood.  It's now looking like a war zone complete with barb wire fencing and craters.

People are moving out as fast as they can now and renting the homes out.  The whole neighborhood has gone to crap.

The City of Grapevine has completely sold out to them and is granting them easement wherever they want to drill.  A new well is being drilled behind the Best Buy.  A park has been torn out for another new well.  A through road which would have eased traffic on one of hte main thorough fares has been cancelled so they can drill where it was going to go.  Wonder what will happen to the bond money that was approved for that construction?

No telling what this area will look like in a few years.  I am looking at putting up iron fencing and bars for the windows to protect my family from the people I have seen roaming through our neighborhood.  I am so angry it is hard to talk about it without going absolutely berzerk.
Title: Re: The Barnett Shale Continues To Screw Me
Post by: lazs2 on June 24, 2008, 08:39:38 AM
Yep RPM...  I hope you make a fortune on it and that it all works out the best for you.

lazs
Title: Re: The Barnett Shale Continues To Screw Me
Post by: ZetaNine on June 24, 2008, 08:48:57 AM
Glad to hear it is working out for you.  My home value has dropped since they started drilling about a mile from me.  Everyone in the neighborhood was so freaking short-sighted they did not consider long term ramifications at all and did not care to listen either.

We used to have a nice looking neighborhood.  It's now looking like a war zone complete with barb wire fencing and craters.

People are moving out as fast as they can now and renting the homes out.  The whole neighborhood has gone to crap.

The City of Grapevine has completely sold out to them and is granting them easement wherever they want to drill.  A new well is being drilled behind the Best Buy.  A park has been torn out for another new well.  A through road which would have eased traffic on one of hte main thorough fares has been cancelled so they can drill where it was going to go.  Wonder what will happen to the bond money that was approved for that construction?

No telling what this area will look like in a few years.  I am looking at putting up iron fencing and bars for the windows to protect my family from the people I have seen roaming through our neighborhood.  I am so angry it is hard to talk about it without going absolutely berzerk.









are you freaking kidding me?  they can just rip out parks and drill behind stores and whatnot?  is this because of the supreme court eminent domain decision? or has oil always had the right-of-way in texas?
Title: Re: The Barnett Shale Continues To Screw Me
Post by: WilldCrd on June 24, 2008, 09:52:43 AM








are you freaking kidding me?  they can just rip out parks and drill behind stores and whatnot?  is this because of the supreme court eminent domain decision? or has oil always had the right-of-way in texas?


As skuzzy mentioned, the City has COMPLETY sold out to the driling companies.
all city owned property is fair game. Parks, roadways, easements, and if they want to dril in your back yard...Imminent domain comes into play.

Glad I live in Rowlett now. So nice and peacful, get off work, pick up the wife, cruise around the lake on my bike...good times.

BTW skuzzy, there are some homes for sale in my neighborhood. You can get some great deals right now
Title: Re: The Barnett Shale Continues To Screw Me
Post by: rpm on June 24, 2008, 01:52:27 PM
Skuzzy, if there is a good news side to it, after they finish drilling it should return fairly close to what it looked like before. When the rig moves out all that is left is a small wellhead and a road to service it.

Emminent domain doesn't really come into play. The way it works is the owner of the mineral rights has priority over owner of surface property. Emminent domain enters the picture when they want to put a pipeline in. Pipelines have emminent domain powers as a public utility. 
Title: Re: The Barnett Shale Continues To Screw Me
Post by: Skuzzy on June 24, 2008, 03:02:55 PM
The problem after they finish drilling is all the damage doen to the public roads as they haul all thier equipment in and out.  The road where we were to get some triaffic congestion relief (needed very badly) cannot be used now as there will be a wellhead in the middle of where the road would have been and there is nowhere else for the road to go.

The road to the park is through a residential area at the end of my block.  The damn noise from the trucks coming and going and the damage to the streets has been intolerable.

There is no way I can sell my home.  Even after the jerks finish, the roads are still going to be destroyed.  The city does not appear to give a crap about it either.  Who would buy a home near this mess?  I know I wouldn't.

There is no good news for me.  The quality of life went into the toilet.  We do not stand a chance either as the city has provided a loop hole for these idiots to apply for zoning changes and get them rubber stamped on the spot.  Before anyone can get out of bed, another drill rig is being put up.
Title: Re: The Barnett Shale Continues To Screw Me
Post by: 33Vortex on June 24, 2008, 03:07:16 PM
Always amazed me how somepeople just naturally seem to have things fall into their laps.
While someone else can waste their life away working like a whipped dog fighting tooth and toenail to succeed and only end up sliding farther and farther down a hole for their efforts.

Have seen this a lot. Life is a frickin lottery, but that's no excuse for not working hard trying to get what/where you want.

 :salute
Title: Re: The Barnett Shale Continues To Screw Me
Post by: 33Vortex on June 24, 2008, 03:09:36 PM
I am so angry it is hard to talk about it without going absolutely berzerk.

Easy now Skuzzy, we don't want you to be PNG'd, that would suck.  :D
Title: Re: The Barnett Shale Continues To Screw Me
Post by: DREDIOCK on June 24, 2008, 03:19:31 PM
i'm hoping my shop does me good enough that i can get a nice big chunk of land in one of the carolinas, with my own private airstrip. :D

must........escape.......nj :O

You'll miss the Tomatos
Title: Re: The Barnett Shale Continues To Screw Me
Post by: JB88 on June 24, 2008, 03:37:27 PM
GREAT NEWS congratulations, you will need all that money to pay for the calamine lotion you will be consuming when you move to mosquito-rica.

 :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl


sounds great rpm.  hope it works out just like you've planned.

 :aok
Title: Re: The Barnett Shale Continues To Screw Me
Post by: moot on June 24, 2008, 06:25:08 PM
Yikes Skuzzy..
Title: Re: The Barnett Shale Continues To Screw Me
Post by: ZetaNine on June 24, 2008, 06:38:21 PM
The problem after they finish drilling is all the damage doen to the public roads as they haul all thier equipment in and out.  The road where we were to get some triaffic congestion relief (needed very badly) cannot be used now as there will be a wellhead in the middle of where the road would have been and there is nowhere else for the road to go.

The road to the park is through a residential area at the end of my block.  The damn noise from the trucks coming and going and the damage to the streets has been intolerable.

There is no way I can sell my home.  Even after the jerks finish, the roads are still going to be destroyed.  The city does not appear to give a crap about it either.  Who would buy a home near this mess?  I know I wouldn't.

There is no good news for me.  The quality of life went into the toilet.  We do not stand a chance either as the city has provided a loop hole for these idiots to apply for zoning changes and get them rubber stamped on the spot.  Before anyone can get out of bed, another drill rig is being put up.


three words:  class action suit

as a homeowner, you have the right to "quiet enjoyment" of the premises..and when it's your own government preventing it....it's time you all get together.
Title: Re: The Barnett Shale Continues To Screw Me
Post by: rpm on June 24, 2008, 10:13:21 PM
It should be in the contract with the city for the driller to pay all damages to roads, fields, ect. The problem is there is nothing in the law that forces the city to use that money to actually repair your street. Look for the City Council to all be driving new Escalades. If you have a HOA, then they collected the damage money and signed off on the drilling.

I have an HOA and City Council. Both consist of... me! Man, I'm glad I moved back to the country!
Storch, I'll think of you everytime I go lay on the beach of my private villa. I hope you think of me everytime you get a utility bill.:D
Title: Re: The Barnett Shale Continues To Screw Me
Post by: VonMessa on June 24, 2008, 10:21:18 PM
You'll miss the Tomatos

And good cheesesteaks.
Title: Re: The Barnett Shale Continues To Screw Me
Post by: lasersailor184 on June 24, 2008, 11:35:44 PM
And good cheesesteaks.

Perhaps I missed the jump here, but I thought we were talking about Jersey.
Title: Re: The Barnett Shale Continues To Screw Me
Post by: Skuzzy on June 25, 2008, 07:04:12 AM
A "class action lawsuit" will be a waste of money and time.  I have seen what happens to people who have tried to sue large companies in Texas.  They end up bankrupt and distitute.

Here is how it works.  You sue them, and you win.  The company you sue files action claiming the awarded amount is not fair for the basis of the suit.  They keep you tied up in court until you can no longer fight them.

By allowing you to 'apparently' win, it keeps the case here in Texas courts where they can control it.  They make sure you never collect anything.

That is why AT&T and Verizon are based out of Texas.  And why many other Fortune 1000 companies are looking to move to Texas.  Those companies pay little in state taxes and are protected by the state from any litigation.  They also get carte blanche from the Public Utilities Commission and other state agencies whose job WAS to look out for the public's interests.  How many other states have laws that protect lawyers from being sued?  That is right.  You cannot sue a lawyer in Texas if he/she does not do the job they are hired for.

If you have enough money, you can buy anything in Texas.  All our representatives are for sale.  Most of them are not even trying to hide it anymore.  I used to love living here.