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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Gixer on June 25, 2008, 07:45:54 PM
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How many are interested in seeing this on the front News page every tour? Personally I think it gives the wrong impression to visitors and new players that Aces High is focused on score/rank rather then it's historic content,mates and team work.
The top overall results are already listed in the score page each tour for review like any other statistic. I don't consider them "news" worthy.
In it's replacement, real news each month or even weekly. Stories of heroic individual,team or squad accomplishments via a basic hero award scheme. This will give anyone whether they are new or veterans the opportunity to receive recognition based on other players reports.
<S>...-Gixer
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In it's replacement, real news each month or even weekly.
I would rather prefer a "Babe of the Month" ;)
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I would rather prefer a "Babe of the Month" ;)
:aok :aok :aok
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Gixer ..I like your thing..I mean your thinking............Now everybody sit down the villiage idiott has a great idea.....drum roll please!!!!!!!!
Hitech Puts up top 3 submitted SCREEN SHOTS of the month! Not many of us are good at this game ...but everyone ...anyone might have a great screen shot!...This may go more to creating interest to the game than seeing SHAWKS ..(love the man).... name every month.
<S>999000
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Howabout a "get to know" section of the news that selects a lucky pilot for an interview? That way we know we're all human and not some robots!
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Gixer ..I like your thing..I mean your thinking............Now everybody sit down the villiage idiot has a great idea.....drum roll please!!!!!!!!
Hitech Puts up top 3 submitted SCREEN SHOTS of the month! Not many of us are good at this game ...but everyone ...anyone might have a great screen shot!...This may go more to creating interest to the game than seeing SHAWKS ..(love the man).... name every month.
<S>999000
Actually SHawk has only been their twice in the past 7 tours. Think he is getting old...LOL.
I don't have have any ideas what to put in place of it, I rarely look at the page to be honest
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How about we put the "Aces of Aces High" in place of "Top Pilots of Tour ##" ?? Instead of thinking "I have to be one of those top pilots!" as soon as they enter the website they see the Aces of Aces High films and get a feel that its not being the top pilot in scores, but having fun!
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How about all of the above...
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How about we put the "Aces of Aces High" in place of "Top Pilots of Tour
:aok :aok :aok :) :)
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Seeing the top pilots is one of my personal favorites ~ as well as the cocky banter that goes along with any effort to get there... competition *rocks*
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I would rather prefer a "Babe of the Month" ;)
I knew I liked ya for some reason and Hot chicks win everytime for me! Allow Swoop to post the Wednesday Babe weekly.
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News flash.... "fuzeman in his Yak 9U shoots down two Yak 9Ts."
[ ahhhhhhhhhhhshaddupfuzeman!!! ]
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or the FSO results for the month. or the scenarios, koth or races .... team stuff.
Going to duck n hide after this because I know it's risky---> or country stats
rooks got X amount of kills
rooks were killed X amount
Rooks captured X amount of bases
Rooks won X amount of resets
and so on for Bishops and knights
:noid
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actually Lynx, that's a good idea. That way everyone that says "Rooks/Bishop/Knights do more stuff and blah blah blah than us" can see that every country is almost the same. But Rooks pwn all!
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News flash.... "fuzeman in his Yak 9U shoots down two Yak 9Ts."
[ ahhhhhhhhhhhshaddupfuzeman!!! ]
Taking the credit? Not nice to forget your two 190A8 squaddies. :rolleyes:
:aok
<S>...-Gixer
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Are you crazy Gixer!?!?! My God man....How the heck would we know who the best of the best is? Personally, I like to look at the top scorers so that I know who to avoid because those guys are crazy good pilits. :rofl :rofl :rolleyes:
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Taking the credit? Not nice to forget your two 190A8 squaddies. :rolleyes:
:aok
<S>...-Gixer
Not at all, just leaving you enough ammo to return fire. :)
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The main page would really benefit from some flash animation of some combat or even the AH commercial to draw attention.
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Maybe short films could be submitted each tour.. Film with really nice stuff that players pull off, in any and all air combat disciplines. A day or two ago, SHawk pulled off a really nice (almost perfectly executed) F4U1C overshoot counter that killed me.. It is the sort of thing that makes AH great, and imo it deserves front page recognition as much as any scoring accounting... But everything would go, whether pure ACM or comical enough SAPP ultra melontery :P
I'd even volunteer to do the camera work to make mpg/avi/etc files out of it for anyone to see em on the front page imbedded media players.
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Great minds think alike moot. I was about to suggest SAPP "landing" of the month. Or any "landing" really, no reason to limit it to some bomber pile its.
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The main page would really benefit from some flash animation of some combat or even the AH commercial to draw attention.
Also, one thing that strikes me every now and then is that Sanjini's feature movie has been on the main page forever. It's an Aces High 1 film.
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So you want a reporter to "work the beat" of the Arena's?
It's a cartoon plane game for crying out loud.
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Personally, I like to look at the top scorers so that I know who to avoid because those guys are crazy good pilits. :rofl :rofl :rolleyes:
Hmmm.. getting an idea... all current top 10 pilots having a special marked dot on map...visible for all countries all the time :devil
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Why not post the top 10 whinners on CH 200, have snippets of their stupid text on it. :D
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ARE YOU CRAZY GIXER??..Ive been waiting 2 years to get to the AH top pilot page..I hear all the cool people are using it to pick up women in bars :D
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ARE YOU CRAZY GIXER??..Ive been waiting 2 years to get to the AH top pilot page..I hear all the cool people are using it to pick up women in bars :D
:lol
<S>...-Gixer
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NO ME WANT THE SCOREL33T ON HMEPAGE ITS SO COOL I WANT TO BE TOP SO I CAN ORDER PPLE AROUND.
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Ya get any money for being #1? If not, then who cares? :rolleyes:
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Ya get any money for being #1? If not, then who cares? :rolleyes:
ditto :aok
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Why not post the top 10 whinners on CH 200, have snippets of their stupid text on it. :D
Have you really thought through the consequences of this? :)
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Stories of heroic individual,team or squad accomplishments via a basic hero award scheme. This will give anyone whether they are new or veterans the opportunity to receive recognition based on other players reports.
It's a game, nobody gets hurt, or dies... So where are you going to get heroic accomplishments? :huh
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Stories of heroic individual,team or squad accomplishments via a basic hero award scheme. This will give anyone whether they are new or veterans the opportunity to receive recognition based on other players reports.
It's a game, nobody gets hurt, or dies... So where are you going to get heroic accomplishments? :huh
"It was a peacful day in the LW arena. I just reached 15k in my trusty B-17 and started to calibrate, when suddenly hell broke loose! Wife ack all over me as I..."
:salute
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Seeing the top pilots is one of my personal favorites ~ as well as the cocky banter that goes along with any effort to get there... competition *rocks*
I agree 100%TXMom!
[sarcastically] If there are winners then there must be losers, and we in the PC world of 2008 can't have losers because mediocrity rules!
Seriously... It is a good thing to recognize those at the top and to strive to be one of those players. What is wrong with having an exceptional tour? Or for that matter being recognized for the achievement?
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Forget about "replacing it" as long as it's removed I think it would help a LOT!
Remove the scores from the front page and there's no reason to be a score potato, less reason to be timid, and overall there will be less implications from HTC that folks ought to act like these "top ranked pilots" (*snicker*)
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Forget about "replacing it" as long as it's removed I think it would help a LOT!
Remove the scores from the front page and there's no reason to be a score potato, less reason to be timid, and overall there will be less implications from HTC that folks ought to act like these "top ranked pilots" (*snicker*)
I can't believe that I am going to say this... :eek:
I agree with Krusty on this.
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Stories of heroic individual,team or squad accomplishments via a basic hero award scheme. This will give anyone whether they are new or veterans the opportunity to receive recognition based on other players reports.
It's a game, nobody gets hurt, or dies... So where are you going to get heroic accomplishments? :huh
Anytime I sit down at the computer is heroic Shifty! With my ineptitude, just pressing the power button could lead to disaster! The risks I take to fly my cartoon 38G are beyond those of the average man! :)
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If you really think that removing the top scorers names from the front page is going to change the way they play you are naive. Those that play for rank/score will still play for rank/score/bragging rights.
That said I don't ever look at the front page so if they were removed I wouldn't care.
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If you really think that removing the top scorers names from the front page is going to change the way they play you are naive. Those that play for rank/score will still play for rank/score/bragging rights.
That said I don't ever look at the front page so if they were removed I wouldn't care.
And if THEY are the only ones going "look at me! Lookit my score!" then what?
They come off as self-important braggards, and the community jeers or ignores them. The problem goes away.
By having HTC say "look at them! Lookit their score" it legitimizes the entire thing and makes it seem important, and implies "this is a lofty goal to aspire towards".
It makes a difference.
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Gixer ..I like your thing..I mean your thinking............Now everybody sit down the villiage idiott has a great idea.....drum roll please!!!!!!!!
Hitech Puts up top 3 submitted SCREEN SHOTS of the month! Not many of us are good at this game ...but everyone ...anyone might have a great screen shot!...This may go more to creating interest to the game than seeing SHAWKS ..(love the man).... name every month.
<S>999000
Howabout a "get to know" section of the news that selects a lucky pilot for an interview? That way we know we're all human and not some robots!
I like both of these ideas. Especially the screenshots. :aok
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"It was a peacful day in the LW arena. I just reached 15k in my trusty B-17 and started to calibrate, when suddenly hell broke loose! Wife ack all over me as I..."
:salute
:rofl :rofl
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Never happen. Score monkeys make the bank account go 'round. :aok
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Hmmm.. getting an idea... all current top 10 pilots having a special marked dot on map...visible for all countries all the time :devil
Ohh my, best idea yet. :aok
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There are some great ideas here. I agree, replace it.
The less someone concentrates on their score, the more of a help they will be to their country and fellow players. They may also have more......dare I say.......FUN. :aok
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I think having the top scores up is just fine the way it is.
It doesn't faze me either way.
Change this, change that, Jeeez just fly your plane already.
For people who don't care about high scoring pilots, you all seem to talk about them alot.
Adding scores from the air races and koth is a pretty good idea though.
Just sayin,
Boner
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You guys are gay!
A poster wishes to see chicks posted and you "guys" (used loosely now) would rather it "Stay the same".
:rock
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i think score is a good thing because without score there would be no reason for the game. think about it. when you were first starting u wanted to look to see who was the best pilot in the game. and at the time the number 1 ranked guy to you was the best. if there was no score then there would be no point in the game but to just fly and shoot down people. thats fun but it never gives the new people anything to strive for. if they dont have a way to become first then it makes the game pointless to play. instead of rank how they do now, i think they should like they do in halo where you have generals and major and strike comanders and that type of rank. there for a new player can look up the generals and ask them for help. score is what makes a game challenging and gives new players something to achieve. taking it off the front news wont do anything but not attract new players.
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Don't remove the score rankings, but add the other suggestions. E.G. players get to submit short films (say 30sec tops) of the great stuff that gets pulled off in the arenas, acm etc. Or great screenshots.. Or every few months feature Yanksfan's films, or films like Kermit's, etc.
Or all of the above.
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Don't remove the score rankings, but add the other suggestions. E.G. players get to submit short films (say 30sec tops) of the great stuff that gets pulled off in the arenas, acm etc. Or great screenshots.. Or every few months feature Yanksfan's films, or films like Kermit's, etc.
Or all of the above.
Add option for you to see yours/others score in AHII. Like have a little list set out with Check boxes for you to check. Me personally, I only keep up with my Fighter Kills/Deaths and Kills/Sorties.
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Add option for you to see yours/others score in AHII. Like have a little list set out with Check boxes for you to check. Me personally, I only keep up with my Fighter Kills/Deaths and Kills/Sorties.
You can already do that. In game type /.score playerID or on the website go to home/community/scores/pilot score and type in the player ID.
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With reference to the 3 posts directly above. When I first started playing these games (AOL Fighter Ops in 1999) I thought it was somewhat rude to look up a players personal score....I really did :lol
Gotta keep rank in the game how else can you command cv without loads of recoad.
A featured piece of ACM would go along way on impacting the mind set in my opinion. However, the only folks that would see it or any of the other suggests forwarded, would be the one percent of the player base. ...those that visit the boards. And newcomers that DL the game who in turn stand a good chance of not visiting that site again :frown:
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Well, if the visitors to the front page see obvious clues that the content there is updated (often enough) and that it's interesting (enough), they'll come back to check on it every now and then.. It'd be a matter of finding the right content/quantity/frequency of those parameters I put in parenthesies.
I've already got at least a few films of really picturesque ACM in .ahf's.
Another random idea... Have a visible link to an AHWiki featured article, and update it every so often... gonna be sort of a long period between articles, since there aren't many to choose from.. Then again there must be a dozen articles already, so at one or two weeks a pop, there's already at least 3 months' worth.
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You can already do that. In game type /.score playerID or on the website go to home/community/scores/pilot score and type in the player ID.
I know that, but when I check my score, I have my rank right there. I personally just want to see ONLY that stuff. Give us like a little chart of what you want to see.
So lets say I only want to see my number-rank. I just check that box, leave the others alone...
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how about the top 100 killers, showing what they killed and what they were in?
plus in the MA, it would be cool to see a scrolling text of who killed who,at the time of the kill.
and on a new page you can put the top scorers, and a bunch of different stats, for the separate country's.
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or the FSO results for the month. or the scenarios, koth or races .... team stuff.
Going to duck n hide after this because I know it's risky---> or country stats
rooks got X amount of kills
rooks were killed X amount
Rooks captured X amount of bases
Rooks won X amount of resets
and so on for Bishops and knights
Along with this just replace "Top Pilots of Tour"
With......"Top Sqdn's of the Tour"
CAVALRY
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From a business perspective, having the "top" pilots listed on the website is just a good idea. I can't imagine HTC would change that.
-- Todd/Leviathn
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In reply to some of the other posts up the page, I'm not saying remove SCORE itself. Just stop posting the biggest scorepotatos on the front page every month. Most of 'em only get it through serious effort at gaming the score formula. Most of them are no more skilled at piloting than I am.
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A big part of the allure of Aces High is the continuity of the gaming experience. That continuity is what distinguishes it from traditional first person shooters which generally have very little to none. The rank/score aspect of AH and the 15 minutes of fleeting fame it potentially affords on the web-page is merely symbolic marketing of that continuity.
The beauty of this system is that you can choose to play is such a way as to create continuity for yourself and compare that to others or not, the choice is always yours with no intrinsic penalty for choosing not to do so. I have played many games and in my experience those that are specifically designed to have a draw beyond any single gaming session tend to retain players far better simply by virtue of persistant depth.
The rank structure as it is divided into its four core facets and their constituent components, is a potentially valuable metric, albeit unavoidably flawed, to compare the various aspects of your performance to others and especially yourself from one "camp" to the next. If we remove all artifacts of scoring and rank from the game, we should , by the same logic, reset the maps everyday. After all, a persistant gaming environment that reflects the relative geographic success of the countries is really just a visually tangible form of score keeping. But, doing so would obviously destroy the continuity of experience for the "win the war" types.
So, it is in the best interest of the game to retain, not remove, aspects of continuity. Sure, some people will take the rank/score thing to the extreme in the vain pursuit of public accolades, which could conceivably have a cumulatively negative impact on gameplay. But, I maintain it's necessary to provide an overarching context for the AH gaming experience, removing it would have far worse repercussions.
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i agree.
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There's more to gain from adding quality bits of other types of gameplay than removing the score ranks. Remove the score ranks and you have no appeal to any type of players. Add more types and you appeal not just to the score gamers (good and bad) but to other types of gamers too.
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In reply to some of the other posts up the page, I'm not saying remove SCORE itself. Just stop posting the biggest scorepotatos on the front page every month. Most of 'em only get it through serious effort at gaming the score formula. Most of them are no more skilled at piloting than I am.
so true, my rank has always been in the 3000 range, but i have shot down most if not all of the top scorers, some of them quit easily, to the point of being disappointed.
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Along with this just replace "Top Pilots of Tour"
With......"Top Sqdn's of the Tour"
CAVALRY
I was thinking the same thing, except adding "Top Squads of the Tour" instead of replacing "Top Pilots"
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How many are interested in seeing this on the front News page every tour? Personally I think it gives the wrong impression to visitors and new players that Aces High is focused on score/rank rather then it's historic content,mates and team work.
I agree 100% - I'm tired of seeing The Usual Suspects (aka: the ones with no lives) pimping themselves out every month all for the name of score.
BOO! HISS!
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I would rather prefer a "Babe of the Month" ;)
I agree Lusche, I think this months babe of the month should be bruv119, anyone got any naked pics ?
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Oh now hang on! Dont remove it....its the only sure indication that gameplay sucks as much now as when I left! So long as the usual suspects are up there I know my 14.95 is safe in my pocket.
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I think they should leave them, the top pilots. However, I do like the top squadron idea. I think both do and would attract players.
To be honest why do we really play? For me it's the comraderie and of course the thrill of the hunt. I also think it honors are brave WWII pilots.
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I was thinking the same thing, except adding "Top Squads of the Tour" instead of replacing "Top Pilots"
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SQDN is the right acronym for the word Squadron.
In military terminology, a "squad" is a small military unit led by a non-commissioned officer (NCO) that is subordinate to an infantry platoon. A squadron is a small unit or formation of cavalry, aircraft (including balloons), or warships.
CAVALRY
Retired Army and former CSM of an Armored Cavalry "SQDN" :salute
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HI
SQDN is the right acronym for the word Squadron.
In military terminology, a "squad" is a small military unit led by a non-commissioned officer (NCO) that is subordinate to an infantry platoon. A squadron is a small unit or formation of cavalry, aircraft (including balloons), or warships.
CAVALRY
Retired Army and former CSM of an Armored Cavalry "SQDN" :salute
But you knew what I was sayin'....Thanks for clearing that up though.
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or the FSO results for the month. or the scenarios, koth or races .... team stuff.
:noid
This is a spectacular idea. Unless it causes more cheating morons to invade FSO... Other than that, I think this would highlight the team aspect in the case of FSO, the individual "ace" aspect of KOTH and races. Having to highlight anything about the MA is almost moot, because once you join, you gravitate there anyway.
I thought that doing a list of top Squadrons would be good too until I realized that their are some squads out there that are as bad at being scoremongers and some of the individual players are. So they would be at the top of the list consistently as well. Still that would be better than the list of top individual scores.
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One way to help remove cheats is to quit predicting they'll show up.
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I would rather prefer a "Babe of the Month" ;)
:aok :aok :aok :aok :aok :aok :aok :aok
-BigBOBCH
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Hmmm.. getting an idea... all current top 10 pilots having a special marked dot on map...visible for all countries all the time :devil
I vote for this one. Look at all the recognition they would receive. Better than "Name In Lights"