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Title: ABC Has Lost Their Minds
Post by: ROX on June 26, 2008, 06:15:38 PM
I USED to think ABC made at heast a half-potato'ed attempt to be reasonably bananced in their reporting (still 15 degrees left, but better than the other 2 "old" old networks), but that has flewn right out the window...

Guess who is sitting in for Charles Gibson? 

George Stephenopolis...the former Clinton Aide.

You have GOT to be flippin' KIDDING ME!

Why don't they just let John Kerry do the news...or even John Edwards?  Jeesh!  Why not let Hillary do the flippin' newscasts this week!

This network needs to get flushed--by viewers complaining to the advertizers.

Hey--don't get me wrong.  I went to college for Radio/TV/Film, did 25 years on the air in radio.  I'm not talking from just a viewer's prospective but someone who put in a full career in the media.

If you are doing the news:

  A) Speak the truth
  B) Have No Bias
  C) Tell BOTH sides of the story

ABC has gone over the deep end.


Its sad to see that.




ROX



Title: Re: ABC Has Lost Their Minds
Post by: Sandman on June 26, 2008, 07:14:40 PM
I'm wondering how you feel about Karl Rove as a political analyst for Fox News.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/12/us/politics/12rove.html
Title: Re: ABC Has Lost Their Minds
Post by: Yeager on June 26, 2008, 07:16:19 PM
stephi has been a political news commenter for a decade.  Always seemed like a decent guy to me, even if predisposed to left leaning lunacy  :aok
Title: Re: ABC Has Lost Their Minds
Post by: crockett on June 26, 2008, 07:42:29 PM
stephi has been a political news commenter for a decade.  Always seemed like a decent guy to me, even if predisposed to left leaning lunacy  :aok

Yea, I never like the guy but he has been at the job a long time, so it's not the same as pulling some political guy in out of no where.
Title: Re: ABC Has Lost Their Minds
Post by: angelsandair on June 26, 2008, 07:55:26 PM
I'm wondering how you feel about Karl Rove as a political analyst for Fox News.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/12/us/politics/12rove.html

there's something wrong with your link. It's a link to the NEW YORK TIMES, the most left wing liberal paper in America. Base your source off something OTHER than the NYT.
Title: Re: ABC Has Lost Their Minds
Post by: crockett on June 26, 2008, 08:00:37 PM
there's something wrong with your link. It's a link to the NEW YORK TIMES, the most left wing liberal paper in America. Base your source off something OTHER than the NYT.

Are you so brain dead you can't use a search engine to find a second source for yourself, or does Fox News have to spoon feed it to you, straight from the Gerber baby food bottle?
Title: Re: ABC Has Lost Their Minds
Post by: Sandman on June 26, 2008, 08:08:36 PM
there's something wrong with your link. It's a link to the NEW YORK TIMES, the most left wing liberal paper in America. Base your source off something OTHER than the NYT.

You have quite obviously lost the plot.
Title: Re: ABC Has Lost Their Minds
Post by: angelsandair on June 26, 2008, 08:09:12 PM
Are you so brain dead you can't use a search engine to find a second source for yourself, or does Fox News have to spoon feed it to you, straight from the Gerber baby food bottle?

I dont watch the news frequently, I'm 15 and I'm smart enough to know that I only watch it about once, twice a week, sometimes not even that. I watch FOX, NBC, CNN but I'm smart enough to know this stuff, and are you trying to state that the NYT is fair and balanced, that it reports both sides of stories? That it DOESNT run ANY story to make the soldiers in Iraq look bad for 61 consecutive days?? It seems to me that you are brain-dead.

Here, if you want proof of that the New York Times is Liberal? Here ya go.

http://www.newshounds.us/2007/01/30/fox_attacks_new_york_times_for_bias_double_standard.php
Title: Re: ABC Has Lost Their Minds
Post by: crockett on June 26, 2008, 08:36:35 PM
I dont watch the news frequently, I'm 15 and I'm smart enough to know that I only watch it about once, twice a week, sometimes not even that. I watch FOX, NBC, CNN but I'm smart enough to know this stuff, and are you trying to state that the NYT is fair and balanced, that it reports both sides of stories? That it DOESNT run ANY story to make the soldiers in Iraq look bad for 61 consecutive days?? It seems to me that you are brain-dead.

Here, if you want proof of that the New York Times is Liberal? Here ya go.

http://www.newshounds.us/2007/01/30/fox_attacks_new_york_times_for_bias_double_standard.php

No one said the NY Post isn't liberal, just like no one can argue Fox News doesn't lean to the right. I simply told you to use your brain and look it up for your self if you don't like what he provided. Don't use "only 15" as an excuse for anything other than you can't drive by your self. At 15 I was out working everyday after school and started my first business mowing lawns, soon as I got my drivers license @ 16.

The point is, use the available resources to look it up and find it out for yourself and never use age as an excuse of why you can't do something that's not age restricted.
Title: Re: ABC Has Lost Their Minds
Post by: Fulmar on June 26, 2008, 08:52:20 PM
ABC news took a nice dive when Mr. Jennings passed on.  I loved his reporting...
(http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/peter-jennings.jpg)
Title: Re: ABC Has Lost Their Minds
Post by: Dago on June 26, 2008, 09:58:08 PM
Georgie was a better idea than putting Katie Couric on the CBS evening news.  Monumental tanking in the ratings.
Title: Re: ABC Has Lost Their Minds
Post by: angelsandair on June 26, 2008, 10:28:34 PM
No one said the NY Post isn't liberal, just like no one can argue Fox News doesn't lean to the right. I simply told you to use your brain and look it up for your self if you don't like what he provided. Don't use "only 15" as an excuse for anything other than you can't drive by your self. At 15 I was out working everyday after school and started my first business mowing lawns, soon as I got my drivers license @ 16.

The point is, use the available resources to look it up and find it out for yourself and never use age as an excuse of why you can't do something that's not age restricted.

So, somehow, I should be using your child-hood as an example to live mine?  :huh
Title: Re: ABC Has Lost Their Minds
Post by: MiloMorai on June 26, 2008, 11:03:08 PM
ABC news took a nice dive when Mr. Jennings passed on.  I loved his reporting...
(http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/peter-jennings.jpg)
Yes from the land of Kanukistan some Merkins here are so fond of.
Title: Re: ABC Has Lost Their Minds
Post by: rpm on June 26, 2008, 11:16:10 PM
Are you so brain dead you can't use a search engine to find a second source for yourself, or does Fox News have to spoon feed it to you, straight from the Gerber baby food bottle?
The answer is obviously yes.
Title: Re: ABC Has Lost Their Minds
Post by: Delirium on June 26, 2008, 11:28:57 PM
I don't trust any news source anymore, I listen to it as I would any other entertainment venue.
Title: Re: ABC Has Lost Their Minds
Post by: lyric1 on June 26, 2008, 11:42:34 PM
At times I watch the BBC news here in the States. You guys should try it some times they report the same stories as the U.S news teams however it comes across with no bias that I can see.
Title: Re: ABC Has Lost Their Minds
Post by: SOB on June 26, 2008, 11:52:15 PM
...
Guess who is sitting in for Charles Gibson? 

George Stephenopolis...the former Clinton Aide.

You have GOT to be flippin' KIDDING ME!
...

OMFG AHHHHH!!!111
Title: Re: ABC Has Lost Their Minds
Post by: angelsandair on June 27, 2008, 12:04:25 AM
I don't trust any news source anymore, I listen to it as I would any other entertainment venue.

I watch the news, just rarely. If I have trouble going to sleep, I tune to Fox. I almost never watch CNN, NBC, CBS, they always get me mad just from how crazy it is. Atleast Fox reports enough of the otherside for you to understand.  :aok
Title: Re: ABC Has Lost Their Minds
Post by: Jackal1 on June 27, 2008, 07:47:34 AM
Jeesh!  Why not let Hillary do the flippin' newscasts this week!

The way the media has swung........or been bought off, they probably would let Hillary have a shot at it, but I think the heavy sniper fire that follows her around would be too much for them to handle.
Title: Re: ABC Has Lost Their Minds
Post by: ROX on June 27, 2008, 03:33:29 PM
ABC news took a nice dive when Mr. Jennings passed on.  I loved his reporting...
(http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/peter-jennings.jpg)


Peter Jennings was awesome.  A bit of an ego guy behind the scenes in the meetings, but great on-air.  Of the "big three", I think he was the least left of center.  You got the news that made the news.

As much as Walter Cronkite solidified the mold of a single national news anchor (not a team), he was and is very liberal, both on and off the air.  The Dan Rather Era was ok...but he was no Walter and just as liberal. 

Karl Rove as a political commentator for Fox News is just that, a commentator.  He's not delivering a newscast.  The day he starts delivering newscasts for Fox News is the day I would say the same thing about them as I am ABC.

I'm talking about anchoring the national news. 

One thing about Fox I do like is that when they spot light a political issue or agenda they bring on commentators from both sides.  It not only is more fair, but the debates are pretty interesting (except when they both talk at the same time--that make me change the channel).  When the host starts in negatively one one of the commentators it does bug me.






ROX

Title: Re: ABC Has Lost Their Minds
Post by: Dago on June 27, 2008, 03:44:50 PM
The Dan Rather Era was ok...but he was no Walter and just as liberal. 

What????  Rather was a disgrace to newsmen and journalists. His blatant bias mixed with a grand canyon sized ego made him think he was more important than the news, and he constantly let his opinions and bias color the way stories were reported.  He should be held up as an example in journalism schools as what a journalist should never become.

Title: Re: ABC Has Lost Their Minds
Post by: angelsandair on June 27, 2008, 04:10:55 PM
ehh, as long as I know whats happening, I dont care...
Title: Re: ABC Has Lost Their Minds
Post by: AKIron on June 27, 2008, 04:45:41 PM
I'm wondering how you feel about Karl Rove as a political analyst for Fox News.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/12/us/politics/12rove.html

He is a contributor, not a show host. Fox has liberal contributors also, hence the "fair and balanced".
Title: Re: ABC Has Lost Their Minds
Post by: Sandman on June 27, 2008, 04:51:34 PM
He is a contributor, not a show host. Fox has liberal contributors also, hence the "fair and balanced".

After leaving the Clinton admin, Stephanopoulos started out as a political analyst as well. Rove is on the very same path.
Title: Re: ABC Has Lost Their Minds
Post by: Nilsen on June 27, 2008, 04:57:15 PM
Are there no politically objective news providers in America? Your country should be large enough to atleast have one. Every time news is discussed here it almost always boils down to what way the provider is bent, and not the news itself.
Title: Re: ABC Has Lost Their Minds
Post by: Sandman on June 27, 2008, 04:59:04 PM
Are there no politically objective news providers in America?

No.
Title: Re: ABC Has Lost Their Minds
Post by: Nilsen on June 27, 2008, 05:14:19 PM
Thats odd. Are they all owned by political parties or interests?
Title: Re: ABC Has Lost Their Minds
Post by: Sandman on June 27, 2008, 05:18:03 PM
Thats odd. Are they all owned by political parties or interests?

Corporate interests ARE political interests.
Title: Re: ABC Has Lost Their Minds
Post by: crockett on June 27, 2008, 05:19:25 PM
Are there no politically objective news providers in America? Your country should be large enough to atleast have one. Every time news is discussed here it almost always boils down to what way the provider is bent, and not the news itself.

Yea the Daily show rags on everyone and probably give a more accurate report than the other major News stations and it's a comedy show.
Title: Re: ABC Has Lost Their Minds
Post by: ROX on June 27, 2008, 06:06:53 PM
Thats odd. Are they all owned by political parties or interests?

Actually no. They are owned and run by people who tend to lean left.  CBS, ABC, and NBC run a newscast that show 3 American Soldiers killed and 6 wounded by a roadside bomb, and keeps hinting that the war is lost.

FOX News runs the same story, followed by a story of American servicewomen (medics) doing classes with Iraqi women about healthcare and free check-ups for their kids.  Then reminds viewers the violence is a fraction of what it was before the "troop surge".

Like minded folks watch like minded news sources.  Conservitive folks usually watch Fox News.  Middle of the road folks like NBC News.  Liberal folks like CBS.  REALLY liberal folks like ABC.

Each network tries get a "piece of the ratings pie".  It's all about ratings.

Fox News has a lock on the conservatives and the cable news (CNN trails FOX in the ratings...but is also very liberal).

The other three "traditional" non-cable tv national news networks are then forced to go the other way...divy up the liberal viewers.

While not owned by political interests, the traditional non-cable networks are owned and run by interests that tend to lean liberal...it's just a matter of how much at the time.  And yes, they can sway public opinion by those newscasts.

You are in a good place Nilsen.  Norway seems pretty laid back.  You never hear of Norway beating up on it's neighbors, starting wars, having terrorists blow up your buildings, or having terrorist kingpins call Norway the Satan of all Satans.  That's a good thing for your children and their children.

In October, my wife & I will spend our 25th wedding anniversary on the Norwegian flagged Adventure of the Seas!  My  :salute to one of the best passenger naval nations on the earth.

If I have photoshopped your likeness too much it's because I respect you.  You looked great on the moon!

All of Norway was proud!   (No medal from the King Harald V?)  You have my  :salute


(http://www.entertainmentworlds.com/nilsenonthemoon.jpg)






ROX