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General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: Pannono on July 05, 2008, 03:40:03 AM
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we need a russian bomber in AH, badly
Performance
Maximum speed: 276 mph
Range: 2,245 mi
Rate of climb: 1,154 ft/min
Armament
2x 20 mm ShVAK cannons (dorsal and tail turret)
2x 12.7 mm UBT machine guns (engine nacelles)
1-2x 7.62 mm ShKAS machine guns (nose turret)
Up to 8,800 lb of bombs
how about it guys?
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:aok
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:rock
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im all for it :aok
the 88's just dont have the punch that the rest of the bombers have.
plus, they are quitre easy to shoot down
-Ian-
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im all for it :aok
the 88's just dont have the punch that the rest of the bombers have.
plus, they are quitre easy to shoot down
-Ian-
88s are german...
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(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f8/Pe-8.jpg)
any more info on this?
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Always wondered with bombers with such mixed armament, must have been a PITA for logistics and armourers.
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Get better use out of the Pe-2 or Tu-2 IMHO. :aok
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(http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg3/Pannono/pe8.jpg)
(http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg3/Pannono/pe-8.gif)
(http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg3/Pannono/pe-8-s.gif)
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I left out the info that the Pe-8 could carry one 11,000lb bomb because HTC has already stated no eggs bigger than 4k
Yes, I know, double post, but I didnt wanna squeeze one sentence into a post with 3 pictures
I find those nacelle mounted MGs very innovative. :aok
gotta love russian minds
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Get better use out of the Pe-2 or Tu-2 IMHO. :aok
That would fill a different niche.
The Pe-8 would be welcome, and along with the Piaggio P.108, and either the He177 or Ju 188, all major combatants that had one, would have a heavy.
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That would fill a different niche.
The Pe-8 would be welcome, and along with the Piaggio P.108, and either the He177 or Ju 188, all major combatants that had one, would have a heavy.
True, it would be "nice" to have - but when you get down to it - straight numbers - how many pilots out there fly ATTACK type missions in all the arena's vs. those that fly BOMBER (useing the bombsight) missions?
:salute
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Pe2 would be a better option, in particular for the AH type airwar
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Both! :rock
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YES! :rock
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Pe-8 would actually be usuable in MA. it has good speed, good defensive armament, good climb rate, good bomb load, and its a russian bomber, which we have none of in game! :aok
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bump
skuzzy, take a look at this puppy, would be great to have in AH :aok
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:rock
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this is a must have :aok
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we need a russian bomber in AH, badly
Performance
Maximum speed: 276 mph
Range: 2,245 mi
Rate of climb: 1,154 ft/min
Armament
2x 20 mm ShVAK cannons (dorsal and tail turret)
2x 12.7 mm UBT machine guns (engine nacelles)
1-2x 7.62 mm ShKAS machine guns (nose turret)
Up to 8,800 lb of bombs
how about it guys?
Much better, I say add it to the "must have list".
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:aokAWESOME IDEA :) :) :) :) but with that payload combined with it armament it would have to be perked :cry
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Low priority addition in my mind. Only about 800 were built.
The first Russian Bomber should be either 2-3 versions of the Pe-2 or the Tu-2. They can perform the same level bombing missions as the Pe-8 as well as tactical air support roles.
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Low priority addition in my mind. Only about 800 were built.
93 in fact.
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In light of the recent nooby posts in the wishlist, i have decided to bring back my old thread because we need this plane more than a B-29 or Ho-229.
Hitech we are still waiting for the newest heavy bomber of AH, why not this one :aok
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:pray :pray :pray
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more bombers would be nice. excellant bump!
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I like this plane... it has potential. I don't know if the numbers should be taken for a big issue. When it comes to Russian heavy bombers, this one was one of the more used it would seem. I don't know if one can compare those numbers with American or even British numbers considering the difference in priority of the strategic bombing to the different countries.
I for one would love to see such a plane in AH planeset. :aok
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Well, they did have lanc from the brits. Not sure how many or how often they used them.
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Very problematic design with a troubled operational history.
In theory it should have been the equal of the B-17 but the lousy engines. I honestly dont know how many PE-8s were built but it wasn't a successful design. Not helping matters was the lack of enthusiasm for strategic operations in the Soviet air force, which was virtually 100% a tactical air force.
Its contribution to the war was nothing compared to the TU-2, which was a far more versatile and capable airframe. The TU-2 could fill several roles in AH and since we dont get new bombers often this needs to be considered. The TU-2 had almost the payload, was far faster, was more nimble, and could fly a variety of operations in the game. Strategic, tactical, maritime, and its "almost Mossie" speed would make it a great raider.http://www.aviastar.org/air/russia/tu-2.php
The PE-8 would be so one dimensional compared to the TU-2.
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The issue isn't whether or not the plane was used wisely. One of the great things about Aces High is that we aren't required to make the same mistakes of Hitler and Stalin or even Harris and Marshal. We could go to the hanger with 12 people and manufacture 36 brand new Pe-8s, without the technical problems, and use them the way we feel they would be most useful.
The Pe-8 would be a great addition for the VVS forces and I'd like to see it in the game.
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The thing about having fleshed out country sets is that the reason you want them fleshed out is for scenario use (if I understand correctly... at least that's why I would like to see them fleshed out). The VVS especially, as with a proper Soviet set we could run more Eastern Front stuff, which would be the most appealing to most here, I think, (to me at least :D), just because of the kind of combat that took place in that theater (down and dirty tactical warfare). Thus, having a Soviet bomber is great, but having one that has no real place in scenario use (like the Pe8) is kind of pointless. The Pe 2 or Tu 2 would fit better for these reasons. Just like the He-111, Do-217 and Ju-188 would be better for the German set than the He-177. These countries simply didn't use strategic bombers.
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Yes to this! PE-2 Tu-2?
Howdy Pan!
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Not to mention they carry the same punch as B17's.
88s are german...
im all for it :aok
the 88's just dont have the punch that the rest of the bombers have.
plus, they are quitre easy to shoot down
-Ian-
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20mm tail guns! :O :O :O :O :O :O :O
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recommended. Very fun plane to fly in IL2
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:aok :rock
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I found a few more pics of this baby
(http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg3/Pannono/pe8_1.jpg)
(http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg3/Pannono/Pe8c.jpg)
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Well...as long as we got "some" Russian bomber. I'd rather have the TU-2 cause it fits my style, is more versatile, faster, and would be used more. Remember you could pile all kinds of bombs onto a TU-2 as well, about 6,000lbs if I remember right, so its not like its a light bomber. It has more then enough to sink a CV and its cruiser and the speed to get away. It also has Mossie like agility, good guns, and would make a fine attacker/raider.
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I'm for the Pe-8. The russians need bombers and I'm getting tired of the same 3 heavies.