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Title: California Asks for Federal Troops to Battle Fires (they have some nerve)
Post by: ZetaNine on July 11, 2008, 10:18:00 AM
I'm all for sending fed troops in to help..........with the only caveat being we do nothing to help san fransisco........let them burn.

the way those hammerheads have treated our troops and military recruiting there is nothing short of treasonous ...... they can't have it both ways....

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By Brian K. Sullivan

July 10 (Bloomberg) -- California Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger said his state is approaching a ``tipping point'' in its battle against more than 300 wildfires and needs federal help to turn the tide.

The state requires assistance, including from the military, after lightning sparked the blazes, which have been exacerbated by high temperatures and dry grass and brush, Schwarzenegger wrote in a letter sent to Republican President George W. Bush today.

``With more lightning storms forecast for later this week, we sit at a critical tipping point in California that requires immediate federal help and aggressive pre-positioning of federal resources,'' wrote Schwarzenegger, also a Republican. ``I respectfully request federal active duty forces.''

More than 1,090 square miles, an area roughly the size of Rhode Island, has burned in California since June 21, according to the California Department of Forestry and Fire Protection, also known as Cal Fire. Excessive heat warnings and red flag warnings, which mean conditions are right for ``explosive fire growth,'' cover a 659-mile (1,060-kilometer) stretch from the Oregon border south to Los Angeles.

White House spokesman Scott Stanzel said federal officials are working with California to help battle the blazes and are reviewing Schwarzenegger's request.

California will get as many as 40 fire managers from Australia and New Zealand to help coordinate the battle against the fires. The group will arrive in the U.S. this weekend and will be dispatched to California after a training period in Boise, Idaho, said Don Smurthwaite, a spokesman for the National Interagency Fire Center in Boise. It will be the fifth time the two countries have sent the U.S. help.

Title: Re: California Asks for Federal Troops to Battle Fires (they have some nerve)
Post by: WilldCrd on July 11, 2008, 10:32:29 AM
Tho I dont like the things the protesters say in frisco, they have the right and the FREEDOMS to do so.
your right you cant have it both ways......either we have the freedoms to say what we want and protest or we live in a police society and have no freedoms.
I'm not wanting to spark a political debate on what freedoms we have and which ones have been stripped from us. Just saying that the freedoms we do have apply to everyone including people like the ones in your pic that are protesting....even if I dont like what they say
Title: Re: California Asks for Federal Troops to Battle Fires (they have some nerve)
Post by: ZetaNine on July 11, 2008, 10:34:32 AM
Tho I dont like the things the protesters say in frisco, they have the right and the FREEDOMS to do so.
your right you cant have it both ways......either we have the freedoms to say what we want and protest or we live in a police society and have no freedoms.
I'm not wanting to spark a political debate on what freedoms we have and which ones have been stripped from us. Just saying that the freedoms we do have apply to everyone including people like the ones in your pic that are protesting....even if I dont like what they say

let's include the right of the military to tell them they wont come to frisco to help them........ just this one time should do the trick
Title: Re: California Asks for Federal Troops to Battle Fires (they have some nerve)
Post by: Baitman on July 11, 2008, 10:36:59 AM
how many protesters VS how many people in Cali that need help?  :O
Title: Re: California Asks for Federal Troops to Battle Fires (they have some nerve)
Post by: ZetaNine on July 11, 2008, 10:40:05 AM
how many protesters VS how many people in Cali that need help?  :O



not cali.........san Fransisco ..and those protesters unfortunately represent the majority when it comes to anit-military thinking in that city.

if we're getting into negotiations......... more specifically........just let Berkley burn down.  I'd be OK with that.
Title: Re: California Asks for Federal Troops to Battle Fires (they have some nerve)
Post by: Baitman on July 11, 2008, 10:50:36 AM


not cali.........san Fransisco ..and those protesters unfortunately represent the majority when it comes to anit-military thinking in that city.

if we're getting into negotiations......... more specifically........just let Berkley burn down.  I'd be OK with that.
Wouldn't this be a good time to help them. This would actually show to them and the world that the military is batter than that? :O
Title: Re: California Asks for Federal Troops to Battle Fires (they have some nerve)
Post by: ZetaNine on July 11, 2008, 11:05:39 AM
Wouldn't this be a good time to help them. This would actually show to them and the world that the military is batter than that? :O

If they don't know that by now.........they aren't worth saving.......
Title: Re: California Asks for Federal Troops to Battle Fires (they have some nerve)
Post by: Hornet33 on July 11, 2008, 11:12:47 AM
Oh I don't know, seeing a squadron of C-130 water bombers flying over Berkley dumping yellow colored retardant might be kinda fun to watch. Wonder if they can die that stuff different colors?
Title: Re: California Asks for Federal Troops to Battle Fires (they have some nerve)
Post by: ZetaNine on July 11, 2008, 11:22:54 AM
Oh I don't know, seeing a squadron of C-130 water bombers flying over Berkley dumping yellow colored retardant might be kinda fun to watch. Wonder if they can die that stuff different colors?

pink!!
Title: Re: California Asks for Federal Troops to Battle Fires (they have some nerve)
Post by: indy007 on July 11, 2008, 11:23:01 AM
Zeta, need to get you better pictures!

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Title: Re: California Asks for Federal Troops to Battle Fires (they have some nerve)
Post by: texasmom on July 11, 2008, 11:52:12 AM
The military folks who go to help will be thankful to get a chance to give those fire fighters a break, and hopefully make headway with those fires.

Why would they oppose that?  Because it's California?  Last I heard, California is still part of America...

The Soldiers are far, far, far above those protesters... and would never turn down the opportunity to help folks just to say 'neener-neener' to a few of those kooks out in that direction.
Title: Re: California Asks for Federal Troops to Battle Fires (they have some nerve)
Post by: Carrel on July 11, 2008, 12:17:10 PM
My brother and his wife, plus my parents, have been evacuated and it looks like they'll lose their homes. My parents are in their late 70s and have lived in the same residence for over 30 years- 

I am disappointed some of you take such gleefulness in the distress of others, but frankly I'm not surprised.... However, I AM surprised at some of you over your inability to read a map. See, these are forest fires. If you look at a map of California you'll notice San Francisco doesn't HAVE any forests. These fires are affecting us in the rural areas of the State, not Berzerkley or San Francisco.

Oh, Zeta Nine? This is just about the dumbest thread anyone's ever started here- maybe we can share a good laugh the next time Florida gets wiped out by a hurricane and your neighbors lose their homes. Natural disasters- ruined lives- That's some funny stuff right there. You rock.

 :aok
Title: Re: California Asks for Federal Troops to Battle Fires (they have some nerve)
Post by: midnight Target on July 11, 2008, 12:21:59 PM


not cali.........san Fransisco ..and those protesters unfortunately represent the majority when it comes to anit-military thinking in that city.

if we're getting into negotiations......... more specifically........just let Berkley burn down.  I'd be OK with that.

That is just idiotic.. well not just... I'd go with really. Yeah, Really idiotic.
Title: Re: California Asks for Federal Troops to Battle Fires (they have some nerve)
Post by: lasersailor184 on July 11, 2008, 12:22:21 PM
Mispost
Title: Re: California Asks for Federal Troops to Battle Fires (they have some nerve)
Post by: ZetaNine on July 11, 2008, 12:28:38 PM
My brother and his wife, plus my parents, have been evacuated and it looks like they'll lose their homes. My parents are in their late 70s and have lived in the same residence for over 30 years- 

I am disappointed some of you take such gleefulness in the distress of others, but frankly I'm not surprised.... However, I AM surprised at some of you over your inability to read a map. See, these are forest fires. If you look at a map of California you'll notice San Francisco doesn't HAVE any forests. These fires are affecting us in the rural areas of the State, not Berzerkley or San Francisco.

Oh, Zeta Nine? This is just about the dumbest thread anyone's ever started here- maybe we can share a good laugh the next time Florida gets wiped out by a hurricane and your neighbors lose their homes. Natural disasters- ruined lives- That's some funny stuff right there. You rock.

 :aok

relax sweet pea........it's a tonge-n-cheek thread....and we have a home in toluca lake, CA...where fire in the hills above us is more common than not.
Title: Re: California Asks for Federal Troops to Battle Fires (they have some nerve)
Post by: Saxman on July 11, 2008, 12:30:18 PM
Carrel,

You must have missed the 9 pages of ignorant hate-mongering from the Sharia thread last week.

Title: Re: California Asks for Federal Troops to Battle Fires (they have some nerve)
Post by: Jackal1 on July 11, 2008, 12:32:06 PM

The Soldiers are far, far, far above those protesters

 :aok Absolutely.
Title: Re: California Asks for Federal Troops to Battle Fires (they have some nerve)
Post by: ZetaNine on July 11, 2008, 12:35:07 PM
Carrel,

You must have missed the 9 pages of ignorant hate-mongering from the Sharia thread last week.



WE HAVE A BLEEDER!!!!!!!

8 of the nine pages were you trying to bandage the cuts you were giving yourself when stumbling and landing face-first....
Title: Re: California Asks for Federal Troops to Battle Fires (they have some nerve)
Post by: Carrel on July 11, 2008, 04:52:34 PM
relax sweet pea........it's a tonge-n-cheek thread....and we have a home in toluca lake, CA...where fire in the hills above us is more common than not.

Yeah, I figured you were trolling- which is why I lied about my family being evacuated. It's not every day I out lawyer a lawyer.  :D

The only think that bugs me tho, is how did you know my name was Sweet Pea??  :frown:
Title: Re: California Asks for Federal Troops to Battle Fires (they have some nerve)
Post by: AKIron on July 11, 2008, 05:03:53 PM
Of course our military should help anywhere in the US when directed through proper channels. Maybe seeing these men and women saving their tulips will wash the hate from the eyes of some of these living in la la land. One can always hope.
Title: Re: California Asks for Federal Troops to Battle Fires (they have some nerve)
Post by: FBplmmr on July 11, 2008, 05:20:41 PM
Oh I don't know, seeing a squadron of C-130 water bombers flying over Berkley dumping yellow colored retardant might be kinda fun to watch. Wonder if they can die that stuff different colors?


The last thing Berkley needs is any more 'retardant'. They have been huffing that for years and it apparently works as advertised. :D
Title: Re: California Asks for Federal Troops to Battle Fires (they have some nerve)
Post by: Jackal1 on July 11, 2008, 05:27:17 PM
Maybe seeing these men and women saving their tulips will wash the hate from the eyes of some of these living in la la land. One can always hope.

the military has been doing that for them all of their lives and it hasn`t sunk in yet. I don`t hold much chance of it happening now.
Title: Re: California Asks for Federal Troops to Battle Fires (they have some nerve)
Post by: hubsonfire on July 11, 2008, 05:36:16 PM
I'd much prefer to see our troops doing something stateside than elsewheres. Besides, I figure it's about time we invade California. That might lull the Canadians into a false sense of security...
Title: Re: California Asks for Federal Troops to Battle Fires (they have some nerve)
Post by: ZetaNine on July 11, 2008, 05:42:04 PM
Yeah, I figured you were trolling- which is why I lied about my family being evacuated. It's not every day I out lawyer a lawyer.  :D

The only think that bugs me tho, is how did you know my name was Sweet Pea??  :frown:

not sure what "trolling" is........but the thread has a lot more to do with my contempt for uber liberal marin county residents....and virtually nothing to do with fire.  if you found some victory in that....... like janis joplin said.........get it while ya can.
Title: Re: California Asks for Federal Troops to Battle Fires (they have some nerve)
Post by: AquaShrimp on July 11, 2008, 05:47:37 PM
You do realize we started a civil war/blood bath in Iraq don't you?  I apologize that some people are educated and critical of military actions. 
Title: Re: California Asks for Federal Troops to Battle Fires (they have some nerve)
Post by: ZetaNine on July 11, 2008, 05:52:25 PM
You do realize we started a civil war/blood bath in Iraq don't you?  I apologize that some people are educated and critical of military actions. 

I don't mind anti war protesters........ I grew up around them....

I object to them suggesting troops should shoot their leaders, or our troops are intentional killers of innocents with no regard for civilian casualties, or protesting at the funerals of our fallen soldiers, etc....

additionally........I don't think we started a civil war in iraq........I think we gave them the freedom to make to make changes...and some choose guns over diplomacy....so we stepped in again and set them straight.
Title: Re: California Asks for Federal Troops to Battle Fires (they have some nerve)
Post by: ODBAL on July 11, 2008, 05:58:13 PM

The last thing Berkley needs is any more 'retardant'. They have been huffing that for years and it apparently works as advertised. :D

Wow, tough crowd, I thought that was funny as hell  :aok
Title: Re: California Asks for Federal Troops to Battle Fires (they have some nerve)
Post by: Carrel on July 11, 2008, 06:19:44 PM
not sure what "trolling" is........but the thread has a lot more to do with my contempt for uber liberal marin county residents....and virtually nothing to do with fire.  if you found some victory in that....... like janis joplin said.........get it while ya can.

Actually Marin County quit being ultra liberal when the median home price topped 750,000. There's still a few old nutjobs living on their houseboats in Sausalito, but other than that it's fairly mainstream, unless you believe people who vote Democrat are all leftist radicals.
Title: Re: California Asks for Federal Troops to Battle Fires (they have some nerve)
Post by: Saxman on July 11, 2008, 06:55:45 PM
...unless you believe people who vote Democrat are all leftist radicals.

So how long have you been on these boards? ;)
Title: Re: California Asks for Federal Troops to Battle Fires (they have some nerve)
Post by: 59funkman on July 11, 2008, 07:20:15 PM
I'm all for sending fed troops in to help..........with the only caveat being we do nothing to help san fransisco........let them burn.

the way those hammerheads have treated our troops and military recruiting there is nothing short of treasonous ...... they can't have it both ways...

Were you dropped on your head a lot as an infant?
Title: Re: California Asks for Federal Troops to Battle Fires (they have some nerve)
Post by: DREDIOCK on July 11, 2008, 07:37:21 PM
So how long have you been on these boards? ;)
you could have assembled 100 wise men and let them ponder 100 years.
And they couldnt have come up with a better responce to that then you just did LMAO   :aok :aok
Title: Re: California Asks for Federal Troops to Battle Fires (they have some nerve)
Post by: ZetaNine on July 11, 2008, 07:59:01 PM
Were you dropped on your head a lot as an infant?


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Title: Re: California Asks for Federal Troops to Battle Fires (they have some nerve)
Post by: ZetaNine on July 11, 2008, 08:00:12 PM
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Title: Re: California Asks for Federal Troops to Battle Fires (they have some nerve)
Post by: Saxman on July 11, 2008, 08:44:39 PM
you could have assembled 100 wise men and let them ponder 100 years.
And they couldnt have come up with a better responce to that then you just did LMAO   :aok :aok

Sad thing is it's the truth.

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See what happens when you so much as hint you lean Democrat on these boards?
Title: Re: California Asks for Federal Troops to Battle Fires (they have some nerve)
Post by: DREDIOCK on July 11, 2008, 09:07:38 PM
Sad thing is it's the truth.

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See what happens when you so much as hint you lean Democrat on these boards?

Hell.
you dont even have to go that far LOL
Title: Re: California Asks for Federal Troops to Battle Fires (they have some nerve)
Post by: AKIron on July 11, 2008, 10:54:19 PM
Fixed.

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Title: Re: California Asks for Federal Troops to Battle Fires (they have some nerve)
Post by: Gunslinger on July 11, 2008, 11:19:47 PM
nah I call BS.  there's nothing wrong with most democrats.  THe problem is they let their party be hijacked by radical leftists.  I agree let berkley burn.  They have their free speech but they go beyond that.  THEIR CITY GOVT GOES SO FAR AS TO BAN THE MILITARY.  I'M IN THE MILITARY!  I'd get spit on just for walking the streets!  This isn't about left vrs right or red vrs blue this is about right vrs wrong!

EDIT:

About the fires I hope they get put out.....even if it takes the help of federal baby killers......i mean troops.