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Title: P39-Q STR 71
Post by: Odisseo on July 14, 2008, 11:15:20 AM

Ok, that's my fisrt skin job, so don't hurt me ;)

Tell me what do you think about it!

Greetz
Odisseo


(http://web.ticino.com/odisseo/images/AH/P39Q/ahss4.jpg)

(http://web.ticino.com/odisseo/images/AH/P39Q/ahss5.jpg)

(http://web.ticino.com/odisseo/images/AH/P39Q/ahss6.jpg)

(http://web.ticino.com/odisseo/images/AH/P39Q/ahss12.jpg)
Title: Re: P39-Q STR 71
Post by: oboe on July 14, 2008, 11:33:32 AM
Good to see new skinners working at the craft!

Looks pretty good for a first skin; but names and numbers are backwards on the starboard side.   The yellow is too intense and should be either desaturated or have the opacity of the layer reduced some.

Probably, the bare aluminum wingtip should be paitedn as the rest - the bare section I think was unique to Fester's default skin subject.

Finally, underside looks too clean - needs oil and dirt smudges and streaks.

Really, very impressive first skin.
Title: Re: P39-Q STR 71
Post by: Jester on July 14, 2008, 12:30:07 PM
Is it just me or all the lettering on the right side "reversed"?    :huh
Title: Re: P39-Q STR 71
Post by: Fencer51 on July 14, 2008, 01:54:53 PM
Is it just Jester or is that the default skin with different markings and some collor on the nose and tail?  :huh
Title: Re: P39-Q STR 71
Post by: Guppy35 on July 14, 2008, 03:03:00 PM
Good call Fencer.  Looks like the default with paint on top
Title: Re: P39-Q STR 71
Post by: BaDkaRmA158Th on July 14, 2008, 03:58:09 PM
No one ever said skins could not be inhanced versions of the default skin.


If anything that would help a constant for skins acrost one ac, imagine how many diffrent tints and shares of green we will be getting for the 39's for each and every skin released.


...yeah.
Title: Re: P39-Q STR 71
Post by: Guppy35 on July 14, 2008, 04:53:47 PM
Show me a photo of Snooks 2nd with the replacement NMF wing tip and we'll talk :)
Title: Re: P39-Q STR 71
Post by: Saxman on July 14, 2008, 10:25:45 PM
He'd better get permission if that's all he did. I wanted to modify the default F4U-1 (Walsh's bird) into Daphne C, which was the same aircraft with Walsh's "13" painted out (and still visible in all positions) but was given a red light when I asked.
Title: Re: P39-Q STR 71
Post by: Odisseo on July 15, 2008, 03:20:35 AM
Is it just Jester or is that the default skin with different markings and some collor on the nose and tail?  :huh

Is it just me or all the lettering on the right side "reversed"?    :huh

Is it just you or now i'm gonna do skins just for my fun.

As sayd it was just my first skin test and I did it for fun and not to have your approval.
Yes I started from default skin since the base colors are more or less the same (if not for the different green on the tail) and the fuselage details are well done since they correspond to the P39 pictures I have...should I do it from new even if the STR 71 had just withe tail and some yellow details?
Title: Re: P39-Q STR 71
Post by: Odisseo on July 15, 2008, 03:29:04 AM
He'd better get permission if that's all he did. I wanted to modify the default F4U-1 (Walsh's bird) into Daphne C, which was the same aircraft with Walsh's "13" painted out (and still visible in all positions) but was given a red light when I asked.

It's a default skin and there's no name of who did it and, above all, there are no rights on skins. So if I wish to modify skins of someone else, not in order to make a twisting, but just because the skin I wish to do has the same base i'm free to do it.
If not, then put rights on and update the rules for submit skins.

Have fun!
Title: Re: P39-Q STR 71
Post by: Odisseo on July 15, 2008, 07:13:16 AM

Ok, since I don't want to hurt anyone using existing skins ;) here what I did this morning, all details are self made and nothing has been taken from the existing immages.
For now I did the fuselage only (flanks) wich will need some corrections and more details.

the P39-Q of the 601 Sqn


(http://web.ticino.com/odisseo/images/AH/P39Q/1.jpg)
(http://web.ticino.com/odisseo/images/AH/P39Q/2.jpg)
(http://web.ticino.com/odisseo/images/AH/P39Q/3.jpg)


Have fun!
Title: Re: P39-Q STR 71
Post by: Saxman on July 15, 2008, 07:51:48 AM
It's a default skin and there's no name of who did it and, above all, there are no rights on skins.

Look harder. And there may be no legal rights, but it's definitely a courtesy. Plagiarism is plagiarism, and you're not liable to win many friends in the skinning side of the community. Now if you said in the first place what you were doing: Practicing your first skin by building it off the Default rather than leaving it to us to recognize that ourselves it would have been different. There's nothing WRONG with it if it helps you learn, but don't just come onto the board saying "Here's my new skin!" when all you did was change markings and insignia on the Default.
Title: Re: P39-Q STR 71
Post by: Odisseo on July 15, 2008, 08:33:50 AM
Look harder. And there may be no legal rights, but it's definitely a courtesy. Plagiarism is plagiarism, and you're not liable to win many friends in the skinning side of the community. Now if you said in the first place what you were doing: Practicing your first skin by building it off the Default rather than leaving it to us to recognize that ourselves it would have been different. There's nothing WRONG with it if it helps you learn, but don't just come onto the board saying "Here's my new skin!" when all you did was change markings and insignia on the Default.

if I wish to modify skins of someone else, not in order to make a twisting, but just because the skin I wish to do has the same base i'm free to do it.

I never sayd i was going to send my skin to AH or something like that, just posted the work I did modifying the P39 skin, changing the green skin, modifying green camuflage, the belly and adding 72 st insigna. Did you never used based skins of someone else, insigna, colors ect?
As I have already sayd, on skins rules there's nothing about "never use others skins as start" and till it won't be written and skins still free to export it's not plagiarism.
Anyway, if one day i will have the skill to do a good skin, if based on someone else skin I will have certainly the courtesy to ask before to change anything

I dind't wanted to came to the board and hurt anyone, unlucky it's not the same will of those who have more experience.
If the words "Ok, that's my fisrt skin job, so don't hurt me " was understood as "i did all my self" then i'm sorry, my english isn't the best.

Have fun!
Title: Re: P39-Q STR 71
Post by: rogerdee on July 15, 2008, 08:35:28 AM
the raf skin has already been posted as being done and was sent in to Ah for submittle
Title: Re: P39-Q STR 71
Post by: Krusty on July 15, 2008, 10:03:41 AM
It's good to see new folks trying out skins.

Go ahead and edit existing ones.

Just keep in mind when you're done practicing, and want to create a skin for actual submission to HTC, that the level of scrutiny will match some of what you've seen here.

For practice, for fun, go for it! For real? Better put a lot of effort into it.  :aok
Title: Re: P39-Q STR 71
Post by: Fencer51 on July 15, 2008, 11:00:35 AM
the raf skin has already been posted as being done and was sent in to Ah for submittle

Not to even mention that it was a P-400/D not a Q.
Title: Re: P39-Q STR 71
Post by: Fencer51 on July 15, 2008, 11:02:46 AM
Ok, that's my fisrt skin job, so don't hurt me ;)

Tell me what do you think about it!

Greetz
Odisseo

Is it just you or now i'm gonna do skins just for my fun.

As sayd it was just my first skin test and I did it for fun and not to have your approval.
Yes I started from default skin since the base colors are more or less the same (if not for the different green on the tail) and the fuselage details are well done since they correspond to the P39 pictures I have...should I do it from new even if the STR 71 had just withe tail and some yellow details?

You said it was your skin, not anyone else's with modification to portions of it.  You also asked for comment.  Which you have gotten.
Title: Re: P39-Q STR 71
Post by: Xasthur on July 17, 2008, 10:30:03 PM
I'm sure Odisseo meant no offence. English is not his first language and I think he's just getting back into the swing of written English. He is a squadie of mine and he has been away from AH for a very long time due to a serious illness, so don't be too hard on the guy.

Title: Re: P39-Q STR 71
Post by: Furball on July 18, 2008, 03:09:03 AM
Good work Odisseo!  :aok