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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Selino631 on July 20, 2008, 01:38:06 PM
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Can you belive this!? this is sick! :furious
http://www.marinecorpstimes.com/community/opinion/marine_opinion_gibbs_070423/ (http://www.marinecorpstimes.com/community/opinion/marine_opinion_gibbs_070423/)
(http://ttmmc.files.wordpress.com/2007/08/gay-army.jpg) <----And this is what's gonna happen
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And this part is even more funny-
http://www.marinecorpstimes.com/news/2007/05/marine_gibbs_070518/
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Can you belive this!? this is sick! :furious
http://www.marinecorpstimes.com/community/opinion/marine_opinion_gibbs_070423/ (http://www.marinecorpstimes.com/community/opinion/marine_opinion_gibbs_070423/)
Gays have been serving in our country's armed forces and defending our country since its inception. I don't see a problem with a gay man or woman that wants to serve and defend their country.
ack-ack
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I wouldn't feel very good if I was in the military and there was a gay guy in the same baracks as me or foxhole. Even in the artical is said that it doesn't help the job get done, look at the political cartoon! :rofl
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I wouldn't feel very good if I was in the military and there was a gay guy in the same baracks as me or foxhole.
I think you should not have a problem if you are wearing your BDU.
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So they will finally be letting the Republicans in.. :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
sry had too do it.. :devil
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So they will finally be letting the Republicans in.. :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
Whats funny is your blind hatred of everything good in America has ruined what is really funny and isn't... :rolleyes:
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I think you should not have a problem if you are wearing your BDU.
Many of the older barracks still have gang showers........
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I wouldn't feel very good if I was in the military and there was a gay guy in the same baracks as me or foxhole. Even in the artical is said that it doesn't help the job get done, look at the political cartoon! :rofl
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Many of the older barracks still have gang showers........
So do health clubs. Hasn't stopped people from using elliptical machines.
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if gays are going to shower with me , i am going to shower with the women. hey it's "equal rights".
:lol
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A gay guy smiled at me once. I couldn't think, sleep, work, eat or poop. I almost had a nervous breakdown and thought I was going to die. I also almost turned gay. If we allow open gays in the military all service men will pretty much flip out and everything will shut down. I predict our enemies will expect this and overthrow the USA while our troops are in a daze. While the straight soldiers are flipped-out the gays will be homoing-out on everyone. In fact, I bet this whole thing is just a plot byAl-Qaeda...
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Selino, whats your point? I agree with akak
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Selino, I think you've misunderstood the cartoon.
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Hmm, I don't really get your point. Why are you so scared of gay people? I got my hair cut many times by a gay man while in the service and didn't notice any difference. He wasn't looking at me funny or anything. You guys are just too homofobic imo. Like Ack-Ack pointed out, gays have been serving your country for decades already. So why shut them out?
Are you fighting for a free country or, what are you? :huh
I think the OP is really... really, gay. :D
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So do health clubs. Hasn't stopped people from using elliptical machines.
Your first statement implies that if you have your cloths on, having gays around you shouldn't bother you. So I showed a situation where you might have to be around gays w/o your cloths on. In the military as a single person you don't often get the choice of where you will live. You are just assigned a barracks and a room number. Newer barracks have a bathroom that is shared by 2 rooms but the older ones still have gang showers similar to those found at a health club.
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Hmm, I don't really get your point. Why are you so scared of gay people? I got my hair cut many times by a gay man while in the service and didn't notice any difference. He wasn't looking at me funny or anything. You guys are just too homofobic imo. Like Ack-Ack pointed out, gays have been serving your country for decades already. So why shut them out?
Who can and who cannot serve has been up to the military since its inception. There are many reasons you can get rejected for military service. I happen to agree with letting the military decide who can and who cannot serve. If the military doesn't allow gays then I am ok with that simply because military service isn't a right, it's a priviledge.
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Who can and who cannot serve has been up to the military since its inception. There are many reasons you can get rejected for military service. I happen to agree with letting the military decide who can and who cannot serve. If the military doesn't allow gays then I am ok with that simply because military service isn't a right, it's a priviledge.
And would you be OK with it if they didn't allow blacks, Jews or Texans to join?
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Who can and who cannot serve has been up to the military since its inception. There are many reasons you can get rejected for military service. I happen to agree with letting the military decide who can and who cannot serve. If the military doesn't allow gays then I am ok with that simply because military service isn't a right, it's a priviledge.
Agreed eskimo, but elfie why cant it be both a right and a privlage?
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And would you be OK with it if they didn't allow blacks, Jews or Texans to join?
It's up to the military to decide who can and cannot serve.
but elfie why cant it be both a right and a privlage?
Does everyone in Israel regardless of health issues have the *right* to serve? (just using health issues as an example)
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It's up to the military to decide who can and cannot serve.
Does everyone in Israel regardless of health issues have the *right* to serve? (just using health issues as an example)
yes, depending on how serious, a patient whos had mulitple brain surgeries no, because it would cause risk of death, but otherwise everyone may serve they just might be placed in less key positions in the army.
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yes, depending on how serious, a patient whos had mulitple brain surgeries no, because it would cause risk of death, but otherwise everyone may serve they just might be placed in less key positions in the army.
Interesting and I am not opposed to that. Right or wrong, that is not how it works here. There are many reasons you can get rejected for military service, being gay and health reasons are just two.
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Gays have been serving in our country's armed forces and defending our country since its inception. I don't see a problem with a gay man or woman that wants to serve and defend their country.
ack-ack
who the hell cares what they're orientation is? they're doing their country a service. if you were on a patrol somewhere, and had a choice of a gay taking out that sniper about to shoot you, or no one to take out that sniper, which would you choose? :huh
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From somone who serves:
I can honestly say that THIS DOES HAPPEN:
"gay service members will immediately try to strike up romantic relationships with every man or woman within arm's reach."
When living in squadbay type envrionments it is really hard to control. I cannot count the times that I had a new bunch of female reqruits and asked a female instructor to go walk my dorm before lights on and she found trainees in the same bunk! I've only seen it once with the males but I see it all the time with females.
My biggest reason for not wanting to change the policy is all the added BS sensativity training we'll have to do annually and you make one little joke about a guys manhood and it automatically because an MEO issue (Military equal oppertunity)
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And contrary to what the media reports......the US does not kick people out of the military for being gay.
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And contrary to what the media reports......the US does not kick people out of the military for being gay.
Well, not in the Marines anyway. ;)
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So they will finally be letting the Republicans in.. :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
sry had too do it.. :devil
So they will finally be letting liberals in........... Yep, sounds just as dumb as what you said.
:salute hypocrite
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I wouldn't feel very good if I was in the military and there was a gay guy in the same baracks as me or foxhole. Even in the artical is said that it doesn't help the job get done, look at the political cartoon! :rofl
While I was in the Air Force we had a gay guy in our squadron. He lived, worked, and served with the rest of us for over three years before he came out of the closet. None of us had a clue he was gay, he ended up getting shown to the gate. He was one of the finest young NCOs I knew in my 16 years of service. Ack Ack is right, gays have been serving this country since it's inception.
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Well, not in the Marines anyway. ;)
Good point; they do have pretty sharp looking uniforms...
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While I was in the Air Force we had a gay guy in our squadron. He lived, worked, and served with the rest of us for over three years before he came out of the closet. None of us had a clue he was gay, he ended up getting shown to the gate. He was one of the finest young NCOs I knew in my 16 years of service. Ack Ack is right, gays have been serving this country since it's inception.
and I can tell you from actual experience that those who serve and are gay have little to worry about. If you get out of the military because you are gay it's because you WANTED OUT!
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I used to be against the idea of gays serving openly in the military because I thought that there would be a negative effect on morale. But actual experience doesn't bear this out:
Austria, Australia, Belgium, Canada, Denmark, France, Germany, Ireland, Israel, Japan, The Netherlands, Norway, Spain, Sweden, and the UK allow gays and lesbians to serve freely. You don't hear about about any problems... there have been no reports of mass resignations, organizational collapse, or fewer enlistments due to allowing them to serve openly.
so I kind of don't care about this any more. If it happens in the US Military, I think it would wind up being a non-issue after a little while.
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I imagine Bull Dyke's would be especially wicked on the field of battle :eek:
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People said the same things about blacks and women. Not everyone got over having the armed forces integrated and co-ed. For the most part, however, our armed forces are much better off skimming the best of all Americans, not just white Christian good-ol-boys.
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I don't quite understand the gayphobia. Many people are so negative towards gays, but seldom there's any actual reason given for it. The ol' bible is hardly a good reason - whee, someone says gays are sinners, so they must be bad. gee, it's labeled as a sin in a book that's been found contradictous on more than one occasion, quite a reasoning!
Personally I can't stand the thought of going to bed with another man (brr.. just the thought of it!), but it's nothing off from me if two men find themselves attracted to each other. They're happy and I remain just as happy as I was before. Unhappy people, however, can affect the happyness of others.
I do actually know a registered gay couple and they do always behave very nice. They respect me and I respect them - I don't have to feel uneasy with them around, if you know what I mean (or what you might be afraid of). Besides, they make really good food when they're hosting a small party of sorts (i've forgot the actual word for it :confused: - yeah yeah, wiseguys, I know what you'd like to say :)).
Eitherway, banning the gays has never stopped gays from serving in the armed services (unless they're of course registered as a couple, which is possible nowadays).
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This disgrace on the ban on the gays in military is Bill Clintons..His "No See..No Tell" policy...was his alone.
Another example of his betrayal of the Left.
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not just white Christian good-ol-boys.
You mean those guys that, for the vast part, brought the greatest victory to this nation way back about 63 years ago?
Yeah, the country sure as hell has changed since then hasn't it :aok
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not just white Christian good-ol-boys.
And what may I ask is wrong with a white Christian male? You seem to think that all whtie Christian males are good ole boys? Guess you must not know any white Christian males. You guys sure bash us for having our opinions. But, when it comes to yours, I am insensitive. We believe homosexuality to be wrong. DEAL WITH IT!!!!! I deal with the fact you don't believe what I do. I persoanlly think it would be wrong to allow them to have an open life style in the military. My .02
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Whats funny is your blind hatred of everything good in America has ruined what is really funny and isn't... :rolleyes:
uber pwnt! :rock :rock :rock :rock
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and I can tell you from actual experience that those who serve and are gay have little to worry about. If you get out of the military because you are gay it's because you WANTED OUT!
Very true this individual chose to come out on television, the gate was inevidable after that. I have to tell you though, all of us that knew him were shocked
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And what may I ask is wrong with a white Christian male? You seem to think that all whtie Christian males are good ole boys? Guess you must not know any white Christian males. You guys sure bash us for having our opinions. But, when it comes to yours, I am insensitive. We believe homosexuality to be wrong. DEAL WITH IT!!!!! I deal with the fact you don't believe what I do. I persoanlly think it would be wrong to allow them to have an open life style in the military. My .02
Get out of the stone age you diddlyin racist. It's not their fault they're gay. It's hardwired. Should we just shoot them on site because you say, "it's wrong"? This is America for Christ's sake.
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Get out of the stone age you boinkin racist. It's not their fault they're gay. It's hardwired. Should we just shoot them on site because you say, "it's wrong"? This is America for Christ's sake.
I don't see where he said shoot gays, or where he made a racist statement. You're right it is America and he's as entitled to his opinion as much as you are without being called a boinkin racist. Wouldn't you think?
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that second article that was posted, in the beginning it said something like "Gay's would try to strike up romantic urges with every man or women in arms reach", I'm not trying to be against gay's or anything, but if there is a fear of that, then why dont gay's go to a seperate boot camp from heterosexuales? it may sound mean, but it could be a very simple answer to the problem. just my thought, no offense intended.
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Racist? Gays are a race now?