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Title: f6f-5
Post by: jerkins on July 24, 2008, 03:15:15 PM
woohoo, a new model of big blue, gotta love it.  Anyone know the dirt on this plane in comparison to the current f6f?
Title: Re: f6f-5
Post by: Redlegs on July 24, 2008, 03:16:04 PM
Sweet! C'mon He-111!!
Title: Re: f6f-5
Post by: Lusche on July 24, 2008, 03:18:22 PM
woohoo, a new model of big blue, gotta love it.  Anyone know the dirt on this plane in comparison to the current f6f?

Our current F6F is a F6F-5 :)
Title: Re: f6f-5
Post by: jerkins on July 24, 2008, 03:19:59 PM
Well then whats the home page about, just a new skin?
Title: Re: f6f-5
Post by: Lusche on July 24, 2008, 03:20:42 PM
Well then whats the home page about, just a new skin?


If you look at it, you can see its not a new skin. The graphics are completely remodeled. Just like the La's not long ago.
Title: Re: f6f-5
Post by: jerkins on July 24, 2008, 03:21:40 PM
yeah, duh, i was just looking at it closer and i see that.  I'm still excited, i love big blue.
Title: Re: f6f-5
Post by: Captfish on July 24, 2008, 03:23:33 PM
Not that it wouldn't be cool to get the F6F-3 or the F6F-5N night fighter. :rock

HELLCATS RULE  :salute
Title: Re: f6f-5
Post by: The Fury on July 24, 2008, 03:45:04 PM
Yeah it looks awsome great job Greebo and Waffle. :salute
Title: Re: f6f-5
Post by: whiteman on July 24, 2008, 03:59:22 PM
Looks hot!
Title: Re: f6f-5
Post by: Krusty on July 24, 2008, 04:00:12 PM
One of my favorite skins as default, no less!
Title: Re: f6f-5
Post by: Lusche on July 24, 2008, 04:01:18 PM
Now I wish they fix the TIR bug so I could actually fly this thing when it comes out  :pray
Title: Re: f6f-5
Post by: Masherbrum on July 24, 2008, 04:02:20 PM
Somewhere out there, Mathman is shedding a tear over the new details of the Hellcat.

<<S>> Mathman, some of us miss ya! 
Title: Re: f6f-5
Post by: SlapShot on July 24, 2008, 04:04:32 PM
Somewhere out there, Mathman is shedding a tear over the new details of the Hellcat.

<<S>> Mathman, some of us miss ya! 

I miss him ... but then again I don't ... if-n ya know what I mean ...  :t
Title: Re: f6f-5
Post by: evenhaim on July 24, 2008, 04:06:04 PM
Awsome work greebo and waffle

thanks,
freez
Title: Re: f6f-5
Post by: whiteman on July 24, 2008, 04:06:15 PM
One of my favorite skins as default, no less!

I can't wait to see some tri-color skins on the new model.
Title: Re: f6f-5
Post by: evenhaim on July 24, 2008, 04:10:51 PM
edit: somewhere drex and wadke both pitched tents.  :lol
Title: Re: f6f-5
Post by: RATTFINK on July 24, 2008, 04:15:38 PM
Then I pithed a skyscraper...

 :cry  <- tears of joy  :D

 :salute :salute :salute HTC, Waffle & GREEBO!!!!!!!
Title: Re: f6f-5
Post by: whiteman on July 24, 2008, 04:15:52 PM
Not that it wouldn't be cool to the F6F-3 or the F6F-5N night fighter. :rock

HELLCATS RULE  :salute

agree, can never have to many blue planes far as I'm concerned.
Title: Re: f6f-5
Post by: oboe on July 24, 2008, 04:16:59 PM
Absolutely gorgeous.   Congrats Greebo and Waffle on another beautiful baby!

It appears the height of the windscreen glass has been fixed, too.   Thank you for remembering, HTC!
Title: Re: f6f-5
Post by: Squire on July 24, 2008, 04:19:41 PM
Looks awesome. I hope we get an F6F-3 as well. :aok
Title: Re: f6f-5
Post by: SlapShot on July 24, 2008, 04:20:33 PM
FANTASTIC !!! ... nice job Waffle and Greebo.

I only hope Alf is still around to redo the VF-27 skin, and if not, I hope someone else will do it ... I love that skin.
Title: Re: f6f-5
Post by: Ack-Ack on July 24, 2008, 04:20:48 PM
Somewhere out there, Mathman is shedding a tear over the new details of the Hellcat.

<<S>> Mathman, some of us miss ya! 


Doesn't he teach math at an private all-girls school with loose morals?  If so, I don't think he's going to be posting here anytime soon.


ack-ack
Title: Re: f6f-5
Post by: Greebo on July 24, 2008, 04:23:27 PM
The F6F-5 skin is from VBF-12 flying from the USS Randolph in 1945. I picked it because partly because AH's CV skin is based on the Randolph (CV 15) and partly because I like the scheme. I found a deck shot of No 32 for reference, no idea who the pilot was though.
Title: Re: f6f-5
Post by: RATTFINK on July 24, 2008, 04:29:03 PM
Greebo, can we now skin the plane number on one side of the plane w/o the mirror image coming out backwards?

BTW, pick up a H.A.C.K. sig. pic. :D  See below for details.




No sheep were harmed in the making of the H.A.C.K. sig pic.
Title: Re: f6f-5
Post by: Krusty on July 24, 2008, 04:31:10 PM
*I* can't wait to see skins that aren't all the number "88"!!!  :D
Title: Re: f6f-5
Post by: RATTFINK on July 24, 2008, 04:33:05 PM
*I* can't wait to see skins that aren't all the number "88"!!!  :D


(http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u7/rattfink31/VF-31SkinByGreebo.jpg?t=1181104362)
Title: Re: f6f-5
Post by: Banshee7 on July 24, 2008, 04:44:33 PM
New F6F looks sexy!  now they gotta redo the VF31 skin...the one i fly :)
Title: Re: f6f-5
Post by: Krusty on July 24, 2008, 04:44:59 PM
Okay, I meant "88 or 1 or 11 or 101 or something that only works backwords and forwards"...  :aok
Title: Re: f6f-5
Post by: redman555 on July 24, 2008, 04:53:06 PM
lol.... there doing the same thing they did wit F4U.. there re doing cocpit...

-BigBOBCH
Title: Re: f6f-5
Post by: lagger86 on July 24, 2008, 04:55:35 PM
 :aok Yaaaay
Title: Re: f6f-5
Post by: Krusty on July 24, 2008, 04:57:20 PM
Redman, it's not just "redoing the cockpit"

It's totally remodeling the plane from scratch to meet the modern level of detail that planes in AH should have. Look at the F6F in game now. It's crude and low-detailed.

In the process I am pretty sure they go through and redo the damage mapping (so that it matches up to the new 3D model) and I hope that fixes the "lose the same 50cal gun every first hit every time you get hit" bug ;)
Title: Re: f6f-5
Post by: Greebo on July 24, 2008, 04:58:43 PM
Yes all that mirroring stuff is gone, you can skin any squadron number you like. There isn't an F6F-3 in the works as far as I know.

Over the years people have asked me for F6F skins which I was unable to do because of the mirroring issues. I've kept a list of these requests and have now done these skins on the new shape. I'll post some skin viewer screenshots soon.
Title: Re: f6f-5
Post by: Krusty on July 24, 2008, 05:04:55 PM
So you're saying your seeding the skins list with half a dozen the second we get it??  :rock
Title: Re: f6f-5
Post by: whiteman on July 24, 2008, 05:13:05 PM
Greebo for President!
Title: Re: f6f-5
Post by: waystin2 on July 24, 2008, 05:29:45 PM
FANTASTIC !!! ... nice job Waffle and Greebo.

I only hope Alf is still around to redo the VF-27 skin, and if not, I hope someone else will do it ... I love that skin.

I agree Slapshot, I use no other skin on the Hellkitty.  Thank you Waffle and Greebo.  Quick somebody find this Alf fellow!
Title: Re: f6f-5
Post by: Greebo on July 24, 2008, 05:35:50 PM
You are right Krusty. Since I made the mistake of doing it with the P-47 I've avoided seeding the skins list for the HTC stuff I do. So I'll skip posting the screenshots until other skinners have had a chance to post what F6F skins they want to do first.
Title: Re: f6f-5
Post by: VansCrew1 on July 24, 2008, 05:56:02 PM
about time.
Title: Re: f6f-5
Post by: RAIDER14 on July 24, 2008, 06:02:59 PM
it looks great :rock
Title: Re: f6f-5
Post by: RATTFINK on July 24, 2008, 06:30:16 PM
Yes all that mirroring stuff is gone, you can skin any squadron number you like. There isn't an F6F-3 in the works as far as I know.

Over the years people have asked me for F6F skins which I was unable to do because of the mirroring issues. I've kept a list of these requests and have now done these skins on the new shape. I'll post some skin viewer screenshots soon.


 :pray please be the VF-6 Alexander Vraciu skin,  :pray please be the VF-6 Alexander Vraciu skin,  :pray please be the VF-6 Alexander Vraciu skin



F6F-5

The is another VF-31 (VF-6) #19 Tomcatter skin that Alex Vraciu flew in.  It has a Bull blowing smoke out of his nose.



(http://abqscalemodelers.com/Dogfights_F6F-3_Hellcat_Vraciu.JPG)


(http://www.naws.biz/PicVF6_19.jpg)



(http://www.48specialmodels.com/48pics/Bluebox/21725-a.jpg)


(http://www.historysaver.com/assets/noseart/f6fgadgetLG.jpg)


(http://www.skinsandthings.freeola.com/user/_Harpia_Mafra55_/F6F-5_nr40467_19_VF6_Alex_Vraciu/F6F-5_nr40467_19_VF6_Alex_Vraciu.jpg)


Title: Re: f6f-5
Post by: SKYGUNS on July 24, 2008, 06:37:43 PM
So whats the huge difference besides shape?
Title: Re: f6f-5
Post by: whiteman on July 24, 2008, 06:49:32 PM
So whats the huge difference besides shape?

has a stick in the cockpit now woot! maybe damage model, flight model might be adjusted(doubt it) or the top speed bumped up the 20 mph that is claimed it's missing (I'm no expert in that area but search the aircraft & wishlist for F6F updates). the skin issue is fixed.

The fact that it looks pretty and the skin issue fixed makes me happy.
Title: Re: f6f-5
Post by: Widewing on July 24, 2008, 07:00:41 PM
I'm, really tickled at this update. It looks terrific.


I'm hoping the FM got the same makeover...  :pray


My regards,

Widewing 
Title: Re: f6f-5
Post by: Fencer51 on July 24, 2008, 07:18:19 PM
Looks Great! Nice work Waffle and Greebo!
Title: Re: f6f-5
Post by: Karnak on July 24, 2008, 07:26:21 PM
Looks very "good", for such an ugly airplane.  :p


Hopefully it gets a FM review too.
Title: Re: f6f-5
Post by: thndregg on July 24, 2008, 08:17:50 PM
And some of y'all wonder why the staff aren't on the boards every whipstitch. Nice job HTC.<S>
Title: Re: f6f-5
Post by: Getback on July 24, 2008, 08:33:40 PM
Yeah it looks awsome great job Greebo and Waffle. :salute

Ditto, great job folks!
Title: Re: f6f-5
Post by: Rolex on July 24, 2008, 08:34:47 PM
Looks great! WTG HTC & Greebo.
Title: Re: f6f-5
Post by: Baitman on July 24, 2008, 08:35:50 PM
Looks good  :aok
Title: Re: f6f-5
Post by: SgtPappy on July 24, 2008, 09:21:58 PM
Great looking plane! Can't wait. I wonder if its flaps now only have 2 settings though... as I recall Hellcats' flaps were either up or down, much like a Spitfire.

Sorry to burst your bubble, RATTFINK and Whiteman... the tri-colour scheme was done away with when the F6F-5 was introduced. You'll notice that the scheme posted by RATT has a window cutout behind the cockpit, cowl flaps over the lower exhaust pipes and a more heavily framed windshield. That's an F6F-3.

Too bad though, because I personally would love to see a tri-colour Hellcat beside an F4U-1A.
Title: Re: f6f-5
Post by: RATTFINK on July 24, 2008, 10:08:27 PM
Great looking plane! Can't wait. I wonder if its flaps now only have 2 settings though... as I recall Hellcats' flaps were either up or down, much like a Spitfire.

Sorry to burst your bubble, RATTFINK and Whiteman... the tri-colour scheme was done away with when the F6F-5 was introduced. You'll notice that the scheme posted by RATT has a window cutout behind the cockpit, cowl flaps over the lower exhaust pipes and a more heavily framed windshield. That's an F6F-3.

Too bad though, because I personally would love to see a tri-colour Hellcat beside an F4U-1A.



It has more then one flap position.

(http://www.netaces.org/skins/f6f5/skin4.jpg)

?
Title: Re: f6f-5
Post by: Zazen13 on July 24, 2008, 10:14:51 PM
I'm, really tickled at this update. It looks terrific.


I'm hoping the FM got the same makeover...  :pray


My regards,

Widewing 

God I hope so, the La7 out-turns the F6F in AH with and without flaps. You probably have better data than I to reflect on whether that is true to real life or not, but it seems wacky to me. I did some crude tests and the La7 revamp didn't seem to change anything in that regard as far as I could tell, it's radius is still tighter than the F6F...
Title: Re: f6f-5
Post by: Krusty on July 24, 2008, 10:21:08 PM
You are right Krusty. Since I made the mistake of doing it with the P-47 I've avoided seeding the skins list for the HTC stuff I do. So I'll skip posting the screenshots until other skinners have had a chance to post what F6F skins they want to do first.

What? No, I was glad! It's good not to have to wait 6mo to a year for some extra skins!!!
Title: Re: f6f-5
Post by: AirFlyer on July 24, 2008, 10:33:21 PM
Looks awesome, I could never fly the thing but I'll have to try it again with the update. I wonder if this means I can get my A6M updated, they do go hand in hand you know. :pray
Title: Re: f6f-5
Post by: Yossarian on July 24, 2008, 11:10:38 PM
HTC, that looks absolutely superb, as always.

I had been thinking that it smelt like an update time a few days ago...looks like I was right.

Now you have me frantic about whether you'll add the PBY Catalina or A-26 Invader...

<S>

Yossarian
Title: Re: f6f-5
Post by: Greebo on July 25, 2008, 04:03:28 AM
What? No, I was glad! It's good not to have to wait 6mo to a year for some extra skins!!!

OK, I misunderstood your meaning Krusty. I'll post some shots in the skins forum then.