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Title: Drone?
Post by: Captfish on July 30, 2008, 04:02:03 PM
So I was messing around online and came across this picture. I know a lot of kitties wound up being drones during the Korean war, are these Drones?
(http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l191/captfish/hellcat2-1.jpg)

Then I came across this one that had a pilot? This one seem more experimental. Any thoughts?
(http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l191/captfish/hellcat1-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Drone?
Post by: pokecheck on July 30, 2008, 04:54:02 PM
It would be great in the training arena until you get shot down by your noonbie student.
Title: Re: Drone?
Post by: SgtPappy on July 30, 2008, 05:18:32 PM
Yes, they're drones, likely laden with bombs.

In WWII, pilots would have to control drone B-24's to a certain point from which point on, the trailing a/c would remotely control the drone as the drone's pilot/co-pilot bailed out.

The F6F-5K was probably no different AFAIK.
Title: Re: Drone?
Post by: Cthulhu on July 31, 2008, 08:28:24 AM
These could be the drones of GMU 90.
Title: Re: Drone?
Post by: pokecheck on August 01, 2008, 10:13:58 AM
Yes, they're drones, likely laden with bombs.

In WWII, pilots would have to control drone B-24's to a certain point from which point on, the trailing a/c would remotely control the drone as the drone's pilot/co-pilot bailed out.

The F6F-5K was probably no different AFAIK.
Then why would they be painted high-visiblity orange?
Title: Re: Drone?
Post by: Cthulhu on August 01, 2008, 12:01:36 PM
Then why would they be painted high-visiblity orange?
The drones actually were orange. Think about it as as a warning... This thing could blow your bellybutton up! Do some Google work on USS Boxer and GMU 90. :salute
Title: Re: Drone?
Post by: SectorNine50 on August 07, 2008, 06:30:50 AM
I remember hearing about radio controlled aircraft before, but I do not remember their uses.  Were they actually used in WWII?
Title: Re: Drone?
Post by: 2bighorn on August 07, 2008, 05:37:18 PM
Then I came across this one that had a pilot?

Yeah, in those times the drones used for live fire practice had pilots. The bullets used would break on impact, planes were up armored a bit and air inlets had screens.
Title: Re: Drone?
Post by: glock89 on August 07, 2008, 06:31:52 PM
I remember hearing about radio controlled aircraft before, but I do not remember their uses.  Were they actually used in WWII?
they were never use in WWII i forget the guy who die but it did put the end to the project.
Title: Re: Drone?
Post by: pops949 on August 07, 2008, 07:07:49 PM
Back in the 60's I was in the Navy in a ulility Squad stationed at North Isl. in San Diego. (lived is socal and spent 4 years in SD).  Anyway I was surfing the web and found pictures of the planes I used to fly in.  I was a Drop Control Officer and my job was to fire up the drones and launch them.   We would fly out in the Pacific Missile range and let the ships or fighter try and shoot the drones down.  Of course we had flare on the wing tips so usually they only took off a wing tip.  The Ryan Firebee drone would fly about 550 knots and at about 50K.  The drone had a 100 foot chute so they landed in the water and were picked up by helos. 

(http://www.65yellowmustang.com/starfire21.jpg)
(http://www.65yellowmustang.com/starfire 23.jpg)
(http://www.65yellowmustang.com/starfire 23a.jpg)

And you guys thought you flew RC planes
Title: Re: Drone?
Post by: Rino on August 07, 2008, 08:41:04 PM
they were never use in WWII i forget the guy who die but it did put the end to the project.

     Actually they did use radio controlled aircraft, and not just in Project Aphrodite <the one
in which Joe Kennedy died>.  The navy used a small twin engine radio controlled aircraft to
destroy a beached japanese freighter during 1944.

Found a link to the type:

http://www.designation-systems.net/dusrm/app1/bq-4.html (http://www.designation-systems.net/dusrm/app1/bq-4.html)
Title: Re: Drone?
Post by: expat on August 08, 2008, 01:12:19 AM
Rino
There's one at Pensacola museum..
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e97/expat0149/9b6c0986.jpg
Title: Re: Drone?
Post by: SectorNine50 on August 08, 2008, 03:50:24 AM
From what I understand, these drones were incredibly unreliable, is that correct?
Title: Re: Drone?
Post by: Rino on August 08, 2008, 01:53:03 PM
     Thanks for the headsup expat.  I've been to Dayton 3 times, but never to the navy museum.
Title: Re: Drone?
Post by: Jester on August 10, 2008, 01:06:25 AM
Here is a neat Post-War shot - a LANCASTER Mk.10DC Drone Carrier of the RCAF with early model FIREBEE Drones.

(http://img123.imageshack.us/img123/6416/d1tr3.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)

BTY Pops....Great pics. What was the designation for the P-2 NEPTUNE Drone Carrier? DP-2?

 :salute
Title: Re: Drone?
Post by: Jester on August 10, 2008, 01:49:09 AM
Interesting story about a F6F HELLCAT Drone - "THE BATTLE OF PLAMDALE, CALIFORNIA"   :D

http://www.thexhunters.com/xpeditions/f6f-5k_accident.html

 :salute
Title: Re: Drone?
Post by: Captfish on August 10, 2008, 10:41:46 AM
That's a cool story!!!!  :aok
Title: Re: Drone?
Post by: Denniss on August 11, 2008, 04:05:23 AM
What was the designation for the P-2 NEPTUNE Drone Carrier? DP-2?

Acording to Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P-2_Neptune) it was designated P2V-5FD (DP-2E): A P2V-5F with target towing or drone launch capability, various defensive equipment and all weaponry deleted.
Title: Re: Drone?
Post by: Cthulhu on August 11, 2008, 10:25:29 AM
Here is a neat Post-War shot - a LANCASTER Mk.10DC Drone Carrier of the RCAF with early model FIREBEE Drones.


BTY Pops....Great pics. What was the designation for the P-2 NEPTUNE Drone Carrier? DP-2?

 :salute
Cool pic Jester. That's a really old Firebee.
Title: Re: Drone?
Post by: Jester on August 11, 2008, 10:03:25 PM
Cool pic Jester. That's a really old Firebee.

If I am not mistaken, that is one of the ORIGINAL batch of Q-2A FIREBEE drones from the early 1950's. You can tell, thought it is hard to see in the pic, but the horizontal tails on that model had the arrowhead shaped ends.

http://www.vectorsite.net/twuav_02.html#m1

Always been a big fan of Drones & RPV's - would love to build my own if I had the money. With my luck it would probabily start something like the "BATTLE OF PALMDALE" like in the above post.   :D


Acording to Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P-2_Neptune) it was designated P2V-5FD (DP-2E): A P2V-5F with target towing or drone launch capability, various defensive equipment and all weaponry deleted.

Thanks for the word Denniss.   :aok  I knew about the designation P2V-5FD but didn't know if the Navy used the "D" desigination on the front of P-2 like they did with the DC-130 HERCULES Drone Carrier.

 :salute