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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: BiPoLaR on July 30, 2008, 08:46:20 PM
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whats with the pansy 262s?
1 ping PW and wing gets ripped off EVERY single time.
Are perk ride that much easier to kill than the rest?
why waste your perks?
Anyone else having this issue or am i the only one
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whats with the pansy 262s?
1 ping PW and wing gets ripped off EVERY single time.
Are perk ride that much easier to kill than the rest?
why waste your perks?
Anyone else having this issue or am i the only one
I hardly ever rip a wing unless I'm slamming my 262 into some buffs. Actually I can't even remember when i was last time ripping a wing. Can't be more than 1 occasion this year.
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No, but the 20+ people chasing a 262 everytime they see one does get annoying. Don't they have anything better to do than chase?
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Haha, I call it the Chuck Yeager complex. Many times when I'm in a 262 and I come across a P-51 they abandon whatever they were doing, even dump 10k feet of altitude, and still don't catch me. :P
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No, but the 20+ people chasing a 262 everytime they see one does get annoying. Don't they have anything better to do than chase?
That's often a highly welcome side effect. You can break an enemy cap over a friendly field just by flying nearby, low, and carefully managing your throttle. The horde will try to chase you down while you just barely stay out of their guns, drawing them away from the field... Ahhh what a great thing greed is! :D
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You only think they're easier to kill because everyone goes for them. If a 262 enters the area, everyone wants to kill it so they can tell others "Hey I killed a 262 with a *****" . Me262's really aren't easy to kill unless the one flying it is really stupid.
Once I saw a 262 dive on me, I pulled a high G turn, he overshot, and I just jkept flying on thinking he would just climb back up again. As I looked back he was turning around already and alot slower than he just was. He closed on my 6 rather slowly (for a 262 that is), so I thought it was an easy kill. Now if it was a pilot who didn't know what he was doing I would have killed him. Unfortunatly for me it was a well trained pilot and he killed me after a very fun rolling scissors fight.
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I hardly ever rip a wing unless I'm slamming my 262 into some buffs. Actually I can't even remember when i was last time ripping a wing. Can't be more than 1 occasion this year.
the 1 single 50 ripped it off not me
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the 1 single 50 ripped it off not me
I'd like to see that film. Somehow I doubt that it was only a single .50 cal, or hadn't been overstressed.
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You only think they're easier to kill because everyone goes for them. If a 262 enters the area, everyone wants to kill it so they can tell others "Hey I killed a 262 with a *****" . Me262's really aren't easy to kill unless the one flying it is really stupid.
Once I saw a 262 dive on me, I pulled a high G turn, he overshot, and I just jkept flying on thinking he would just climb back up again. As I looked back he was turning around already and alot slower than he just was. He closed on my 6 rather slowly (for a 262 that is), so I thought it was an easy kill. Now if it was a pilot who didn't know what he was doing I would have killed him. Unfortunatly for me it was a well trained pilot and he killed me after a very fun rolling scissors fight.
No i know theyre eaier to kill cause i can sit behide buffs all day in a spit and walk away with minor damage.
but if i fly up on a buff at 600mph and for a split second sit there p00f im dead
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I'd like to see that film. Somehow I doubt that it was only a single .50 cal, or hadn't been overstressed.
sure whats your email...pm it to me
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i never fly them but the last time i did the same thing happen to me bro :furious
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I hardly ever rip a wing unless I'm slamming my 262 into some buffs. Actually I can't even remember when i was last time ripping a wing. Can't be more than 1 occasion this year.
i recall your 262 wing snapping off once this tour...due to outside forces :D
i <3 Snailman
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whats with the pansy 262s?
1 ping PW and wing gets ripped off EVERY single time.
Are perk ride that much easier to kill than the rest?
why waste your perks?
Anyone else having this issue or am i the only one
262's are pretty fragile. Think of them as fast TA 152's. High g's rip off wings and it doesn't take much to knock out a jet turbine. IMHO they're a waste of perkies unless you wing up a couple of them to reek hell against an incoming horde.
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No, but the 20+ people chasing a 262 everytime they see one does get annoying. Don't they have anything better to do than chase?
Ummm... besides protecting themselves? I think chasing you keeps them from getting killed.
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What im saying here is i DONT ripped the wings off them. The uber 50s do.
I dont know if its lag on my end (Really doubt it) or on their end. Or the 262 is really a high priced POS.
This is the only plane other than the temp i have this problem with.
Once again i know better than to pull hard Gs in both planes. Im a bit smarted then that.
Tips go flying in every direction.
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Ummm... besides protecting themselves? I think chasing you keeps them from getting killed.
Any competent pilot with a brain can evade a 262 with a simple jink. He doesn't need to chase for 30 minutes straight. Absolutely no need. I won't hear this "staying alive" rubbish. :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
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Well I guess they'll just let you fly around then all you want... :rolleyes: :D
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If you two are gonna have a lovers fight then get each others number and call...stop hijacking threads
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If you two are gonna have a lovers fight then get each others number and call...stop hijacking threads
He never calls back afterwards though.... :rofl
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He never calls back afterwards though.... :rofl
who laughs at their own jokes?
On topic: 262s are pretty fragile. Was shot down in the snapshot by about 3 50s to the tail from a P47 with no wing.
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who laughs at their own jokes?
On topic: 262s are pretty fragile. Was shot down in the snapshot by about 3 50s to the tail from a P47 with no wing.
Probably because of the speeds they're constantly at. When you take a Spitfire, you might get it up to 400 in a sortie, but in a 262, thats your average speed in a sorte, 400+ :aok
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who laughs at their own jokes?
On topic: 262s are pretty fragile. Was shot down in the snapshot by about 3 50s to the tail from a P47 with no wing.
so its not my connection...the 262 is just a over priced POS
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whats with the pansy 262s?
1 ping PW and wing gets ripped off EVERY single time.
Are perk ride that much easier to kill than the rest?
why waste your perks?
Anyone else having this issue or am i the only one
only time i've encountered a 262 was months ago when i was actually in LW. he kept tryin to bnz me in my spixteen. on one of his passes, i managed to get my nowe round fast enough to pop off a quick burst. and yes, large important parts fell off. i was very very surprised too.......
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If you two are gonna have a lovers fight then get each others number and call...stop hijacking threads
About to get to the on-topic part of what I was getting at.
When those 20+ cons get anywhere near, all it takes is a few 50 cal pings to knock pieces off like everyone has been saying. Had a Spit today, who I was trying to avoid head on, manage to give me a fuel fire with some only several pings of 50 cal.
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so its not my connection...the 262 is just a over priced POS
It may have been more, but that's all I heard. And he didn't get a long burst into me. DIdn't record though. :(
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The really funny thing about .50cals is that post like ".50 cals suck, HTC has nerfed them" do regularly alternate with ".50cals are way overmodelled, that's BS HT!", both kinds of complains being roughly equal in percentage :D
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The really funny thing about .50cals is that post like ".50 cals suck, HTC has nerfed them" do regularly alternate with ".50cals are way overmodelled, that's BS HT!", both kinds of complains being roughly equal in percentage :D
i know 50s are deadly...you ever seen one of those guys in Iraq after one of our snipers popped him...yeah nothing left...but it does seem like the 50s in this game have been stepped up to me... IMO
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Same thing happened to a squadie today. 1 hit from a P-47 and he lost a wing.
Last 2 times I took one up, all it took was a medium G turn at 300 mph and a wing ripped off.
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I like it when 262's go BOOM with a couple of rounds on an insane reflex deflection shot ehh Davey!
Play up Pompey!
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whats with the pansy 262s?
1 ping PW and wing gets ripped off EVERY single time.
Are perk ride that much easier to kill than the rest?
why waste your perks?
Anyone else having this issue or am i the only one
Oh, I thought you meant that people who fly 262's are sissies. I was coming in here to agree with you. :aok
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262's are fragile in this game and i think the pilot underestimates that point thinking speed can out run any bullit but when being hit by even a 50 cal does alot of damage, ive seen them ripped apart by just a few hits from a WW flying in low to a V-base its not an IL-2 that can be lite up like a christmas tree with sprits from a 20MM and still fly away.
id say fly it like a twig easy to break if you know what im saying :aok
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whats with the pansy 262s?
1 ping PW and wing gets ripped off EVERY single time.
Are perk ride that much easier to kill than the rest?
why waste your perks?
Anyone else having this issue or am i the only one
You're not the only one, but it's really just an experience issue. Fly the 262 more and learn how not to rip the wingtips off.
Learning not to rip the wingtips (or, God forbid, the whole wing) off a 262 is pretty much the same as learning how not to compress in a 109, a P38, etc. You do it a lot and pay attention, watch your speedometer, etc. It's pretty much an instinct now when I start diving in a 262 to throttle back, especially if I'm already doing over 400 knots.
As for the pilot wounds, oil hits, engine kills, etc. yeah that's frustrating, but oh well, just don't get hit and those problems go away. ;-)
A lot of surviving and doing well in the 262 is just being smart about what you do For the benefit of anyone who benefits from this, and with the indulgence of those who don't, here are some suggestions that help out a lot, I find:
1) don't take off a 262 from a sector with an enemy darbar, or from a base that's under attack (I violated my own rule the other day and got poached by a corsair while climbing out)
2) don't land a 262 at a base that's under attack, or in a sector with enemy darbar
3) always keep an eye out for the high Pony/LA/Corsair/etc, they will often dive out of the homosphere with enough E to catch you, if given half a chance
4) be extremely watchful of the skies if you have gotten low near the deck, slow, etc., because of suggestion #3.
5) develop the instinct to throttle back when you start to dive
6) some moves, like the split-S, if you have any speed at all, often result in broken wings/wingtips - be very very careful
7) plan your landings out well in advance - if you have high altitude and high speed it can seem almost impossible to lose that E, so give yourself the time and safety of an uncontested base to do the landing right
8) set your 30mm gun convergence to 650 yards - the extra loft is crucial since in the 262 just about every shot but the AFK kill will be a high deflection shot
9) have patience, do it right - when attacking bombers, take the time to have your speed up, come in from a hard to defend angle, etc. You're right, these planes will lose an engine/engine oil, get a pilot wound, etc. really easily, so make it as hard as you can for the gunner to get those pings on you. If you saddle up on a bomber's 6 in a 262 then you deserve whatever you get from his tailgun.
10) practice ammo conservation and fire very short bursts - always a good idea in any plane, and crucial in this one
The real key though is good SA and the patience to do things right. That's good advice in any plane in this game, but doubly so in the 262.
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Oh, I thought you meant that people who fly 262's are sissies. I was coming in here to agree with you. :aok
ditto :D
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I love HO'ing 262's :P
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262's are fragile in this game
The only thing I'd call fragile on our 262 are the engines..
The wings/airframe are actually pretty robust. It's just very easy to push the 262 past the limits due to it's very high speed and very good dive acceleration.
Juts be careful while you have >50% fuel.
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The really funny thing about .50cals is that post like ".50 cals suck, HTC has nerfed them" do regularly alternate with ".50cals are way overmodelled, that's BS HT!", both kinds of complains being roughly equal in percentage :D
AHII 50 cals are under modeled. That's my story and I'm sticking to it :P
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The only thing I'd call fragile on our 262 are the engines..
The wings/airframe are actually pretty robust. It's just very easy to push the 262 past the limits due to it's very high speed and very good dive acceleration.
Juts be careful while you have >50% fuel.
262's actually take a good deal of punishment, true the engines are weak - single shot near it you get an oil leak however I survived
plenty of runs with bombers that point 6-10 guns at me at once. Only time I ever lost a wing was pulling to many G's or ramming someone.
Best way to fly a 262 is turn untill you hear the airframe creak from the high G load, thats when you know not to pull any harder.
Any snapturns at 400+ will garentee a wingtip coming off.
I guess maybe I was just a lucky one to have my 262 riddled by a P-47 and go home still, damage 1/2 my bar was red.
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3) always keep an eye out for the high Pony/LA/Corsair/etc, they will often dive out of the homosphere with enough E to catch you, if given half a chance
:rofl
That one's a keeper.
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Ive had a single V base ack put my 262 on fire before with 1 ping.
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If you shoot them in the head as I tend to do it doesnt matter how tough they are. In the middle of the day I have run into quite a few squeekers that boom and then runn forgetting to zoom and then when they get caught low its another six months before they can earn another one.
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11) fire one pair of guns at a time for longer ammo duration
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All said and done.....I pwn Skycrock.
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Im just LMFAO why such a hotshot pilot like you needs a perk plane to get kills :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
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Hey ya gotta admit.262's are fun.Its like driving a corvette at a pinto convention.Who wouldnt wanna :aok
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Im just LMFAO why such a hotshot pilot like you needs a perk plane to get kills :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
i own you easy and got film of it...shall i post?
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Yesterday, I flew a ar234 with 75% fuel and retro's
Long story short i shot a 262's tail off before he blew away my left wing, i nose dived to 100 feet bailed and riped the cord over the enemy field, landed by a wirbbel who was unaware of my presence, right smack dab in the middle of the runway, none the less. Pilots like to use jets to buss past fields who are under siege, a good distraction, i had the same thing in mind, what a sight that must have been. To the friendly's and enemy alike.
Got two kills, -58 perk cost, but well worth it. :rock
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You always have bomber perks anyway :D
I once shot a 262 with an Il-2, but the Perks escape my memory. There were many though...
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whats with the pansy 262s?
I thought you were going to rant about sissy 262 pilots. The 262's are just fine, but their pilots are the real sissies. These are the cherry pickers extraordinaire that will pick on others who are having fun knife fighting someone else, or who are just unaware of the 262. They might have been flying an F16 for that matter.
And before anyone mentions how it was a common plane in WWII and should be represented here, I'll just remind you how gentle, vulnerable and deadly to itself it was in real life. Engine fires and flame outs, spontaneous or due to anything less than very gentle handling is not modeled in AHII. It was a cherry picker's plane in real life (well, most planes were in practice) and it is a party pooper in AH.
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whats with the pansy 262s?
1 ping PW and wing gets ripped off EVERY single time.
Are perk ride that much easier to kill than the rest?
why waste your perks?
Anyone else having this issue or am i the only one
Maybe thats because the 1 ping was a 163s tater?
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quote]i own you easy and got film of it...shall i post?[/quote]
Do what you wish but instead of putting other people down to build your own lame ego, you could offer to take me to the DA and teach me some things or is Zazen the only one in your squad willing to help other people?
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quote]i own you easy and got film of it...shall i post?
Do what you wish but instead of putting other people down to build your own lame ego, you could offer to take me to the DA and teach me some things or is Zazen the only one in your squad willing to help other people?
You want to go just hit me up...ill be more than willing to show you what i can.
that gos for anyone who wants too.
i have no ego.
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quote]i own you easy and got film of it...shall i post?
Do what you wish but instead of putting other people down to build your own lame ego, you could offer to take me to the DA and teach me some things or is Zazen the only one in your squad willing to help other people?
lol meddog you seriously have a muppet ankle issue, should i order another case of muppet ankle lube?
fyi agent and zaz post frequent articles I help guys out in the da as do the majority of us, including bip. So Bring the facts before you spit dribble.
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You want to go just hit me up...ill be more than willing to show you what i can.
that gos for anyone who wants too.
i have no ego.
bwuahhahahahahaha, oh man. thanks I needed a laugh.
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Lately I dont even bother looking at the cost or landing them.
When Bingo 262 Lawndart,
:O
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Lately I dont even bother looking at the cost or landing them.
When Bingo 262 Lawndart,
Reminds me of the Robber Barons who would hold lavish parties and roll cigars out of $100 bills and smoke them just because they could.
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i know 50s are deadly...you ever seen one of those guys in Iraq after one of our snipers popped him...yeah nothing left...but it does seem like the 50s in this game have been stepped up to me... IMO
Anybody that has ever fired a Ma Deuce will tell you that the AH .50 is not completely representative of the capability of the real deal. I have personally perfed a BMP to the point it looked like a jiffy pop commercial. The M2HB can reach out and touch someone as well... I have hit stationary targets at 1800 meters. In A2A mode with API rounds one hit on a wing should do some serious damage.