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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Captain Virgil Hilts on August 04, 2008, 08:48:06 PM
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http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D92BN4N82&show_article=1 (http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D92BN4N82&show_article=1)
I'm all broken hearted the guy "might" suffer a little. Put him on a diet and a treadmill for 6 months and THEN give him the needle. Seems to me we're spending too much money to feed them, maybe we should be working them harder.
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Then shoot him.
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He seems to be concerned about pain and suffering. I wonder how much concern he had for his victims.
"Cooey, 41, is sentenced to die for raping and murdering two young women in 1986. His execution is scheduled for Oct. 14. "
AMF and don't let the door hit you in the arse on the way out tubby.
:mad:
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Then shoot him.
That's been deemed "cruel and unusual". :rolleyes:
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:huh
Sounds more like a stall to me
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He seems to be concerned about pain and suffering. I wonder how much concern he had for his victims.
"Cooey, 41, is sentenced to die for raping and murdering two young women in 1986. His execution is scheduled for Oct. 14. "
AMF and don't let the door hit you in the arse on the way out tubby.
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Evidently he had none.
This is more of that "the Constitution is a living document" Bravo Sierra. When the Constitution was written, and when the Bill of Rights was added, they were HANGING people, and executing them by FIRING SQUAD. Evidently, the founding fathers, and the authors of the Constitution as well as the Bill of Rights did not feel hanging and shooting people constituted "cruel and unusual punishment". But now, if murderers aren't completely anesthetized before they are executed, they suffer too much "cruel and unusual punishment". Like I said, Bravo Sierra.
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poor veins? what's the worst that could happen?
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Give me all three syringes. I'd be more than happy to be the only administering the injections. In fact I'd like to push all three at the same time with a mirror in front of his face asking him if this was what those girls looked like as he raped and killed them.
Doubt he even cared anyway so why should I care about his pain and suffering?
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Give me all three syringes. I'd be more than happy to be the only administering the injections. In fact I'd like to push all three at the same time with a mirror in front of his face asking him if this was what those girls looked like as he raped and killed them.
Doubt he even cared anyway so why should I care about his pain and suffering?
Hmph. They could probably just find a damn pill to give him, you'd think. He doesn't seem to have any trouble swallowing.
Better yet, they could give it to him in suppository form. :aok
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"Cooey, 41, is sentenced to die for raping and murdering two young women in 1986. His execution is scheduled for Oct. 14. "
If he was executed 22 years ago like he was supposed to, he wouldn't be so damn fat.
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Couldn't you just gas the bugger?
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I bet if they tried hard enough they could find a vein.
rutabagas.
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I say we shoot him, then hang him, then burn him.
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What the hell are they feeding them to get so big in the first place. Most convicts I have spoken to here in Ohio say they are always hungry due to lack of food.
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he's so fat from ingesting extra protein due to being the.... nevermind :noid
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And that's why the others are skinny :D
Seriously, would the same logic hold if he had to undergo surgery. "Sorry, you must suffer, for we can't put you out"?!?!?!
What you get is a mask on your face...and you're swiftly out, leaving it open to look for a vein with no problem at all.
Then there is always...the guillioutine....
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I say we give them a book on how to pack a parachute, give them a day to read it, hand them a tangled up chute and give them 4 hours to pack it, and then take them up. If they make it down in one piece they can go free, if not well.......
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Hanging was fine for 150 years or so, longer if you count its use by the military. Public hanging should be brought back. Just think, as fat as he is, it should make that rope quicker and more effective. A drop of about 6 feet should be perfect.
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Then shoot him.
Out of a cannon :D
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I say we give them a book on how to pack a parachute, give them a day to read it, hand them a tangled up chute and give them 4 hours to pack it, and then take them up. "Tell them if they make it down in one piece they can go free.......
......and when they land, and are elated by the prospect of freedom, call them a murderer and put a 45 round into there skull. "
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Limit what food he gets---he's IN prison.....helllllloooooooooo o.....McFly....
When he's of a safe, healthy weight....kill him graveyard dead.
Problem solved.
ROX
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This is laughable. I guess we better just set him free then huh? What kind of defense is "I'm to fat"? Are they doing anything to rectify his weight problem then? Maybe some excersize would help, a piece of rope tied to a pickup truck doing 20 mph down a gravel road might work some of his weight off, and if he can't keep up? Problem solved. This guy is a P.O.S. and deserves all the pain and suffering he has coming to him.
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Problem solved. Later tubby. :devil
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cerQm5hp-SE
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Age old question... Do they swab his arm with alcohol before inserting the needle?
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Oh, he looks like a charmer dont he?
Hey I got an idea, strap him to the table and put a big Mac about 3" to far for him to get to.
A few hours and he'll be begging for the needle. :rofl
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"Cooey, 41, is sentenced to die for raping and murdering two young women in 1986. His execution is scheduled for Oct. 14. "
If he was executed 22 years ago like he was supposed to, he wouldn't be so damn fat.
Roger that! :aok
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Age old question... Do they swab his arm with alcohol before inserting the needle?
yes
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Good. Then it burns more :t
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send them to Iran, they execute the death penalty par excellence without any discussion.
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Hanging was fine for 150 years or so, longer if you count its use by the military. Public hanging should be brought back. Just think, as fat as he is, it should make that rope quicker and more effective. A drop of about 6 feet should be perfect.
Funny you should mention that. :)
An article I read a while ago came to mind...
"The Army even has its own drop table. According to its guidelines, the last man to hang in America—220-pound Billy Bailey—would have required 5 feet of loose rope. On a windy night in 1996, the Delaware guards removed Bailey's dentures, placed a black hood over his head, and then dropped the noose around his neck. (The hood prevents the prisoner from shifting position at the last second, as the lever for the trapdoor is pulled.) The knot of the noose was placed against his left ear, in the traditional manner deemed most likely to break the neck. The warden pulled a lever, and Bailey dropped through the trapdoor. He was declared dead a few minutes later. (The Delaware gallows were dismantled in 2003.)
The Army drop table turned out to be inadequate for Mitchell Rupe, a Washington inmate who was supposed to hang in 1994. On death row, Rupe refused all exercise and ate junk food nonstop. By the time of his execution he'd reached 409 pounds, well above the table's maximum listed weight. According to Army regulations, anyone heavier than 220 pounds would get a 5-foot drop. The Washington authorities made an exception and cut Rupe's planned drop to 3.5 feet. Rupe appealed his case, and a federal judge ruled that the risk of decapitation was still too high. Rupe died in a prison hospital this past February."
http://www.slate.com/id/2156656/ (http://www.slate.com/id/2156656/)
Wikipedia mentions last decapitation which happened as a result of the long drop method as late as 2007 in Iraq:
"One of the more recent decapitations as a result of the long drop occurred when Barzan Ibrahim al-Tikriti was hanged in Iraq in 2007."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanging (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanging)
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I've eaten meals in a LOT of prisons across the country, and I fail too see how anyone can be obese with a diet of Koolaid, baloney and cole slaw
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we had a similar case here in Wash state back in the early 80s. This worthless POS murdered (BRUTALLY shots to the head) two lady employees of the targeted bank.
To avoid the death penalty the SOB (srry SOB no pun intended) put on xtreme weight to avoid the state mandated punishment of hanging, saying that hanging his fat worthless azz
would be cruel and unusual.
The state supreme court agreed.
I have hated the state ever since. You could come to the conclusion that is why I despise liberals, they sided with the SSC. Liberals sided with the murderer because killing his POS donut was cruel and unusual. Never mind the murdered woman tending to the bank.
The SOB still lives, 20+ years later.
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Who cares if his head pops off. He will still be just as dead.
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Odd Maverick, thats exactly what I was thinking.
Wurzel
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Are you sure the state should lower itself to the level of these animals by treating them as such?
Shouldn't the state be setting an example to society in general?
Don't you think keeping these guys in cages, making them work like animals for public service is better punishment then a swift needle to quickly get it over and done with?
I personally say make the buggers work until they die.
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Are you sure the state should lower itself to the level of these animals by treating them as such?
Shouldn't the state be setting an example to society in general?
Don't you think keeping these guys in cages, making them work like animals for public service is better punishment then a swift needle to quickly get it over and done with?
I personally say make the buggers work until they die.
I don`t like feeding , clothing, providing medical and supporting in general someone who is a waste of oxygen.
Buy the ticket, you get the ride.
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Are you sure the state should lower itself to the level of these animals by treating them as such?
Shouldn't the state be setting an example to society in general?
Don't you think keeping these guys in cages, making them work like animals for public service is better punishment then a swift needle to quickly get it over and done with?
I personally say make the buggers work until they die.
The same liberal fools who say we shouldn't execute these scumbags also say we cannot make them work to earn their own keep, much less generate anything more than their upkeep.
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I've eaten meals in a LOT of prisons across the country, and I fail too see how anyone can be obese with a diet of Koolaid, baloney and cole slaw
Dont forget the collards and mystery meat =/
with your plastic spork
Ive slept a dorm over from Death row for a stent.
i became friends with alot of ppl in there
but the fellas on the boardwalk (death row) were taboo to talk to.
i say fry his donut no matter how fat he is.
you done the crime fat boy...time to pay
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I don't much like the anything about the Chinese government, but they do know how to take care of things like this. Take the fat SOB out back, put a 9mm round through the back of his head and then send the bill for the bullet to his family. It's quick, effective, and makes a statement that the government isn't going to screw around with your sorry butt when you get caught.
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I know, we should get teh fuzzy bunny and drop the carrot on him :D
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Good. Then it burns more :t
:rofl
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Say no to the Death Penalty!
And on another note "No Fatties!"
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Say no to the Death Penalty!
Alot of violent murderers sentenced to death agree with you.
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I'm sure they would. I could care less what they think.
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Feeding yourself away from death sentence is one thing. But he's still in for life. Maybe more feeding would do the trick...as in monty python's meaning of life (exploding fat guy) :devil
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I'm sure they would. I could care less what they think.
you want those murderers alive, you should care about it lest one escape from the cage and murder you or someone you love.
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Are you sure the state should lower itself to the level of these animals by treating them as such?
Shouldn't the state be setting an example to society in general?
Don't you think keeping these guys in cages, making them work like animals for public service is better punishment then a swift needle to quickly get it over and done with?
I personally say make the buggers work until they die.
People need to fear the punishments they receive for commiting crime. No one fears a life in prison for murdering a person.
I've always felt that "Cruel and Unusual Punishment" was a relative statement, not an absolute. It would be cruel and unusual to execute a shop lifter using fire ants. However, it would not be cruel or unusual to hang a murderer.
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People need to fear the punishments they receive for commiting crime. No one fears a life in prison for murdering a person.
I've always felt that "Cruel and Unusual Punishment" was a relative statement, not an absolute. It would be cruel and unusual to execute a shop lifter using fire ants. However, it would not be cruel or unusual to hang a murderer.
Studies show that they don't really fear the death penalty either. Especially if they are white middleclass types.
Anyways, you continue to believe we need the death penalty. I'll continue to believe that we in fact don't.
No reason to start trying to scare me into your thinking, I'm too level headed for that Yeager.
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Anyways, you continue to believe we need the death penalty. I'll continue to believe that we in fact don't.
No reason to start trying to scare me into your thinking, I'm too level headed for that Yeager.
and your level headedness doesnt care that you tax dollars are going to keep these guys alive?
In my mind, you level headedness is suppoerting what they did by wanting to keep them alive and supporting what they did even though the words that may come outta your mouth says you dont support what they did.
I just dont get why folks like yourself wish for these folks to live when they are a burden on our pocket books and should be dead. Hell I'd love to be able to have my tax office take what I would pay and send the bill for that part to you and let you pay it since you want them to stay alive and drain my pocket book when I dont want them alive. If you aint worried that you are paying to keep them alive then you also have enough money to pay in lieu of those of us who dont.
Your welcome to think and believe what you want, but I think I'll go puke now. You make me sick.
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No reason to start trying to scare me into your thinking, I'm too level headed for that Yeager.
no disrespect but pure ignorance fits your profile. My community suffered the loss of a young couple a few months back to a murderer who had served his sentence for axing his mother to death and was released from prison despite objections from prison staff. He is now back in Prison. He should be executed today to save lives but he wont be.
Two young people just starting life together were brutally murdered for no good reason. Yeah...keep that murderer alive. Thats the ticket!
ls184, you dont put these viscious animals to death to scare others from following their destructive path. you put them to death because as long as they breath air they are a threat to decent law abiding people anywhere and everywhere, not to mention that staff that has to work in their midst to keep them caged up.
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I really hate getting into this same argument over and over but here we go.
and your level headedness doesnt care that you tax dollars are going to keep these guys alive?
In my mind, you level headedness is suppoerting what they did by wanting to keep them alive and supporting what they did even though the words that may come outta your mouth says you dont support what they did.
I just dont get why folks like yourself wish for these folks to live when they are a burden on our pocket books and should be dead. Hell I'd love to be able to have my tax office take what I would pay and send the bill for that part to you and let you pay it since you want them to stay alive and drain my pocket book when I dont want them alive. If you aint worried that you are paying to keep them alive then you also have enough money to pay in lieu of those of us who dont.
Your welcome to think and believe what you want, but I think I'll go puke now. You make me sick.
Number 1: I do NOT support criminals but there you go on a rant telling me I do. Not believing in the death penalty has nothing to do with supporting criminals. The death penalty doesn't keep people from killing others. If they are going to kill someone they aren't going to stop to sit for a minute and think about the possible penalties.
Number 2: Do you actually know how the death penalty works? After all the appeals and extra court time due to it being what it is, a person put to death costs much more than having them rot in a cell for 75 years. So get your facts straight about your tax dollars first.
Number 3: Even though you end your argument in a personal attack I'm not going to sink to your level. You know why? Because that wouldn't make me any better than you. Bringing us to ->
Number 4: I think using the death penalty doesn't make us any better than the killers to begin with.
Number 5: I'm not a religious man by any means any more, but here is a good one from the top 10: THOU SHALL NOT KILL.
no disrespect but pure ignorance fits your profile. My community suffered the loss of a young couple a few months back to a murderer who had served his sentence for axing his mother to death and was released from prison despite objections from prison staff. He is now back in Prison. He should be executed today to save lives but he wont be.
Two young people just starting life together were brutally murdered for no good reason. Yeah...keep that murderer alive. Thats the ticket!
ls184, you dont put these viscious animals to death to scare others from following their destructive path. you put them to death because as long as they breath air they are a threat to decent law abiding people anywhere and everywhere, not to mention that staff that has to work in their midst to keep them caged up.
I'm very sorry to hear about the couple, that is sad.
Please don't start your post with "no disrespect" if you are only intending to attempt to insult my intelligence immediately after. I've given my reasons to oppose the death penalty. Here I'll sum up.
Cost. The fact that human systems are inherently flawed and prejudiced to some degree and innocent lives being lost too it isn't worth the risk. And lastly I believe it does not make us any better than killers ourselves. There. I probably won't need to post anymore to this thread as it will go up in flame wars like all the ones before. No one wants to calmly discuss the issue.
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I do NOT support criminals.
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I do not believe you intentionally support criminals but your position protects them, so by proxy you support them. sorry
The death penalty doesn't keep people from killing others.
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No murderer ever put to death ever killed again
Do you actually know how the death penalty works? After all the appeals and extra court time due to it being what it is, a person put to death costs much more than having them rot in a cell for 75 years. So get your facts straight about your tax dollars first.
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Agreed, we need a fast track for executing these vermin
Even though you end your argument in a personal attack I'm not going to sink to your level. You know why? Because that wouldn't make me any better than you.
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how thoughtful
I think using the death penalty doesn't make us any better than the killers to begin with.
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You have an inherent right to defend yourself. The state has an inherent responsibility to protect those of us who play by the rules from those of us who do not.
I'm not a religious man by any means any more, but here is a good one from the top 10: THOU SHALL NOT KILL.
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Do you think that applied to people trying to murder you? You have a right to defend yourself with lethal force when necessary.
I'm very sorry to hear about the couple, that is sad.
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absolutely stunningly pathetically violently tragic is more like it but your feelings are well taken.
Please don't start your post with "no disrespect" if you are only intending to attempt to insult my intelligence immediately after.
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I really meant it. No disrespect intended.
Cost. The fact that human systems are inherently flawed and prejudiced to some degree and innocent lives being lost too it isn't worth the risk.
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I believe that argument is flawed. Example: why risk putting an innocent person in jail for life, lets not put anyone in prison for life because we risk wrongly incarcerating an innocent person........cant have it both ways, or at least we shouldnt.
And lastly I believe it does not make us any better than killers ourselves.
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That is a fine and admirable sentiment but we have a duty to protect ourselves from those murderous misfits who as long as they draw breath are a threat to all living.
Really.
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I don't think the death penalty prevents crimes from occuring and may actually increase brutality and the amount of victims. If I had raped and killed two and if it would be highly likely that I would be executed, then I would do my best to make myself comfortable while on the loose - rape and kill more people, that is. I would be already receiving the highest punishment of all, so why should I care? Let's have more "fun".
Yet I would like to see the brutal murderers executed. I guess that's the nature, self preservation, striving to get rid of the individuals hangerous to the community.
All this circus for thinking the well being of a murderer, a person who disregarded the rights of his victims, is nothing short of injustice. I do not care if a murderer suffers - why should I, if the murderer didn't think of the suffering of a victim. Violate the rights of an another and you deserve to lose yours. My only concern:: do they go berserk if they know they are highly likely going to be executed?
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I don't think the death penalty prevents crimes from occuring and may actually increase brutality and the amount of victims. If I had raped and killed two and if it would be highly likely that I would be executed, then I would do my best to make myself comfortable while on the loose - rape and kill more people, that is. I would be already receiving the highest punishment of all, so why should I care? Let's have more "fun".
Yet I would like to see the brutal murderers executed. I guess that's the nature, self preservation, striving to get rid of the individuals hangerous to the community.
All this circus for thinking the well being of a murderer, a person who disregarded the rights of his victims, is nothing short of injustice. I do not care if a murderer suffers - why should I, if the murderer didn't think of the suffering of a victim. Violate the rights of an another and you deserve to lose yours. My only concern:: do they go berserk if they know they are highly likely going to be executed?
The problem with quantifying whether or not someone is a "Brutal Murderer" is that there would be constant arguments over where the line is.
Either you execute ALL murderers, or you don't.
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The problem with quantifying whether or not someone is a "Brutal Murderer" is that there would be constant arguments over where the line is.
Either you execute ALL murderers, or you don't.
Don't you think there is a difference between a person who discovers their spouse in bed with another person and goes ballistic versus a insane monster sitting next to some innocent person on a bus who decides to stab them to death while they sleep, cuts their head off and eats various parts of their body?
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Someone who has had too much to drink at a bar, gets into a fight and ends up causing that other persons death....(that too is murder) versus someone who lures children into a van, rapes them, strangles them and then dumps their bodies in a road side ditch.
Yes, their is a difference between these. One example is of a sane person getting into a tragic situation and acting impulsively and the other a animal disguised as a human being preying on people and doing heinous things. Those heinous animals are the ones that need to be immediately exterminated. The others, well..........punish them harshly, but I don't believe we need go after them with the same intensity as the monstrous animals parading amongst us. Most rational people I believe, would agree with me. Some rational people will not.
Fishu, its those people that will kill again and again, over and over that need to be exterminated quickly, for everyones safety. That freak on the greyhound bus up in Canada is a perfect example...unfortunately the Canadians will keep that freak alive and most likely let him out again into their society sometime in the future.
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Only problem I see with your post Yeager is that it may be an insult to the animals to compare them to these scumbags.
As for the fat prisoner. If he is guilty without any doubt put him to death whichever way he feels the most terror. He needs to feel like his victims did.
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I say strap them to a nuke then hit the button, OR throw them out of a plane with out a chute.
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put the poison in a triple cheeseburger.
win/win.
;)
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I thought triple cheeseburgers already were poisoned?
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I thought triple cheeseburgers already were poisoned?
SD, the problem is he can`t score any vegamite in the joint to keep him healthy. :lol
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:aok
How's that going for you anyway? need a new fix? :lol
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:aok
How's that going for you anyway? need a new fix? :lol
LOL Loving it.
I have located a pusher.....errrrrrrrrr source.
He is a dark shadowy guy who hangs out at night on the corner of thirty third and third. ;)
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Beforementioned end of a fat guy :devil
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlfcF1I5e_g
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Studies show that they don't really fear the death penalty either. Especially if they are white middleclass types.
Anyways, you continue to believe we need the death penalty. I'll continue to believe that we in fact don't.
No reason to start trying to scare me into your thinking, I'm too level headed for that Yeager.
Most of these chickenbrains cant imagine life 20 mins down the road. Whether they fear the death penalty or not, and they sure never will if it takes 10 years to carry out sentence. One things for sure tho, they fear it when they are being wheeled down that hallway in the gurnee. I suspect they feared it even worse when ole sparky was in operation.
I say light fat boy up. Even if you have to use two packs of death chemicals. And if hes to fat and you run out? Just use liquid Drano.
Thats how much compassion I have for these maggots.