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Help and Support Forums => Help and Training => Topic started by: Bosco123 on August 09, 2008, 10:31:18 AM
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I fly the Tempest maybe, once a day. I like to pick in it, course thats what your supposed to do with it anyways, but I got low and slow with it, and to my suprise, it dosn't turn all that bad. I'm curious to what planes it can TnB with, I know that fighting a spit with a Temp, is no good, but somthing like maybe a 190 or even a pony you might have a little bit more advantage.
Also, is there anything that I can use against most planes in a Temp, I know that this has a counter roatating prop, would that help me in any way?
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Yes the counter rotating props will help alot against planes with a lot of torgue such as the 109k-4 it cant turn to the left worth a crap but can turn with a spit 16 for 4 or more turns if u use flaps and throttle correctly to the right.
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The Temp, Tiffie and Yaks all turn better to the right. Most others turn best to the left. If you can maximise the amount right turning, then you're going the direction the Temp finds easiest, and almost all the rest of the plane-set find hardest. Same deal with roll.
The Tempest is not as crap at turning as most think. Its not really playing to its strengths, but it's hardly its weakness.
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i know you can out turn 51's 190's and anything as fast i think. prob woldnt try it with an la as they are fairly nimble. id say from 450 down to 300 mph or so your instantanious turn is either equal or better than most of the planeset, helps you get your nose around on those bnz pases. tempest will realy ecel in the vertical its heavy as heck and can zoom and climb very well. if you play more of an e fight in it kind of like a k4 or spit 16/14 you can really dominate a single oponent or maybe 2. not something i would try in a furball. also in a pinch you can masively dump speed and look for an overshoot. just make sure you hit them when they go by cause it could kill your options on getting away.
best thing to do is go fly it llow and slow in the da where its free. and don't pick at all people will be fairlhy suprised at the temp that trys to turn with them. at least that will give you an idea of where the edge is.
also when turning treat it kind of like a k4. cut back on some of that massive engine power and see if it helps you turn/ roll better.
my ingame name is marvin 57 if you see me in the DA or yoiu can catch me in MW invite me ill be more than happy to TnB duel you in tempests as i've never flown it against itself. could be fun.
also when i fly a plane like the tempest there are certin planes i wouldnt bother killing in the MA unelss they were threatening me or a squaddie. i wouldnt bother killing a zero unless i can get him roped perfect or he gives me a perfect snapshot, othere than that i feel im just wasting my time i could have moved on to other targets that arent as hard to hit.
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it will eventually lose most flat turns, but you can use that awesome acceleration and vertical ability to pull all kinds of stuff... do that and see what sticks...
you can always vulch in some craptastic plane and earn enough perkies for a new temp... or do it in the DA...
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http://www.freeroleentertainment.com/temp_overshoots.ahf
old but maybe usefull film of tempest tnb.
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it will eventually lose most flat turns, but you can use that awesome acceleration and vertical ability to pull all kinds of stuff... do that and see what sticks...
you can always vulch in some craptastic plane and earn enough perkies for a new temp... or do it in the DA...
i don't fly the temp, or any other "fast" planes. but i do have a question though.
everyone keeps talking about losing in the flat turns. the thing is, that i never see totally flat turns unless it's someone that's run out of options, and is about to die(me sometimes :D).
i'll generally see the turn start off somewhat flat, but almost always there's some verticle component thrown in after 90-180 degrees of turn.
i don't know how the temps' verticle is, but if someone's going to turn n burn in it, i would imagine that they'd use the verticle to keep their speed in the temps envelope.
just my 2 cents...
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i don't fly the temp, or any other "fast" planes. but i do have a question though.
everyone keeps talking about losing in the flat turns. the thing is, that i never see totally flat turns unless it's someone that's run out of options, and is about to die(me sometimes :D).
i'll generally see the turn start off somewhat flat, but almost always there's some verticle component thrown in after 90-180 degrees of turn.
i don't know how the temps' verticle is, but if someone's going to turn n burn in it, i would imagine that they'd use the verticle to keep their speed in the temps envelope.
just my 2 cents...
exactly, wile the tempest will excel in a looping zooming diving fight, if it goes into flat turns it may have more problems unless it trades alt- for speed to keep up its turn rate, mainly what i was speaking about was that strategy. you can get someone slow and maybe get as slow as them 250-300 range, and then start using that acelration and climb to get on top and stay there E wise.
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ok, I made these films with Marvin last night. It was a lot of fun and we both enjoyed it alot. As you will see that I flew against a K4 and I flew the K4. Both times when we swiched to the K4, we could not handle the powere of the Temp.
I think the next thing that I want to try, is the LA7 Vs. Temp; Maybe we can do that again tonight Marvin?
Here are the films:
http://www.mediafire.com/?aawoww8q03e
http://www.mediafire.com/?madmovaawim
Oh and BTW, I think Mediafire is looking good now, I realy like the new setup that they have for films
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ok, I made these films with Marvin last night. It was a lot of fun and we both enjoyed it alot. As you will see that I flew against a K4 and I flew the K4. Both times when we swiched to the K4, we could not handle the powere of the Temp.
I think the next thing that I want to try, is the LA7 Vs. Temp; Maybe we can do that again tonight Marvin?
Here are the films:
http://www.mediafire.com/?aawoww8q03e
http://www.mediafire.com/?madmovaawim
Oh and BTW, I think Mediafire is looking good now, I realy like the new setup that they have for films
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lol i suck in la7 but id do it anyway lol
was a lot of fun man i was sure sweating on a couple of those fights wrestling with the tourqe of the temp/ k4
lol he forgot to mention that i did auger the temp right after he did in the second film. <S> bosco
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hehehe, I didn't think that one was as good as that one.
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lol for sure. i need some drugs to fly like that all the time :t :t :rock
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More films!
This time its a Temp Vs. a LA7. You can figure that the LA7 is much better turner then the Temp, at low speed, its a little harder at higher speed, but both cain't handle higher alts.
We swapped planes, I flew the LA7 first, and the Temp second.
Again, it was a lot of fun Marvin, and we have a lot of fun after we are done getting serious.
I'm thinking that maybe this time its going to be a Pony, either the B or the D, we will fly them both.
Here are the films:
http://www.mediafire.com/?0qvatwztaxs
http://www.mediafire.com/?k0ai6vzz25t
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i think the b pony might have a better chance, next matchup should probably be a 190a5 or something like that. or posibly a p47-d11/40
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Hello, need help, I can't seem to d/l ANY films from the new Mediafire
Once I clk on the provided url, I'm taken to Mediafire, with the film 2b
downloaded listed. Following instructions given, ie:
Click here to start download
Once that step's done, the d/l begins to my listed site . When I attempt to play the film, I receive an error msg & being whisked back to Mediafire, which informs me:
Your download is starting (after film has been d/ld)
followed by a prolonged wait with nothing transpiring. Am I missing
a few steps in the d/l of films in Mediafire?? Had no probs with the old Mediafire.
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Hello, need help, I can't seem to d/l ANY films from the new Mediafire
Once I clk on the provided url, I'm taken to Mediafire, with the film 2b
downloaded listed. Following instructions given, ie:
Click here to start download
Once that step's done, the d/l begins to my listed site . When I attempt to play the film, I receive an error msg & being whisked back to Mediafire, which informs me:
Your download is starting (after film has been d/ld)
followed by a prolonged wait with nothing transpiring. Am I missing
a few steps in the d/l of films in Mediafire?? Had no probs with the old Mediafire.
Just make sure you SAVE instead of OPEN.
I just clicked the link and then clicked the download button.
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i would rarly turn a tempest with anything, unless its like a 190 or something horid in the turns. When i pick in my tempest i can usually get the angle i need by the time i get to the target and shoot, i only get slow with a Temp if i can win the turn fight, usually the 190 family, other than a 152. Bosco, you ever want to wing in a Tempest, if im havin a good day ill go up with you.
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i would rarly turn a tempest with anything, unless its like a 190 or something horid in the turns. When i pick in my tempest i can usually get the angle i need by the time i get to the target and shoot, i only get slow with a Temp if i can win the turn fight, usually the 190 family, other than a 152. Bosco, you ever want to wing in a Tempest, if im havin a good day ill go up with you.
was quite interesting seeing it turnfight k4 though eh man, that fight can go either way depending on e states, just like the la7 fight can go the tempest's way if he plays the e game. correctly.
i still havent run into bosco again yet. but i wanna try p51 and 190a5 to see whats up probably a p47 too
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WMLute :)
Thx 4 ur advice, it still doesn't work, all other downloads work fine but the new Mediafire :(
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was quite interesting seeing it turnfight k4 though eh man, that fight can go either way depending on e states, just like the la7 fight can go the tempest's way if he plays the e game. correctly.
i still havent run into bosco again yet. but i wanna try p51 and 190a5 to see whats up probably a p47 too
I always come in the DA around 9:00 9:30, pending what I'm doing in the MA.