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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: JAGED on August 18, 2008, 02:21:41 PM
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I would greatly appreciate it if any of you Korean War afficianados can correctly identify the individual that General Eisenhower is making eye contact with. This can be found under Google Images with a search on "Ike's Generals" and is the first pic that shows up.
(http://cache.viewimages.com/xc/3088403.jpg?v=1&c=ViewImages&k=2&d=310F5BD4C6CD10E92A41078DACB227ACA55A1E4F32AD3138)
The caption reads:
1952: President Dwight Eisenhower (1890 - 1969) with Generals Mark Clark (1896 - 1984) and James Van Fleet (left) in Korea. (Photo by MPI/Getty Images)
This is a little misleading. General Mark Clark is on his Ike's left and General Van Fleet is on Ike's right (left as your looking at the picture), but in the background. I thought this would be an easy Google search but I can't find any other pic of the individual in question.
My wife is the youngest of 14. The oldest in her family (deceased) was the recipient of a purple heart during the Korean war. The person giving the award was a four star general and looks just like this man. It's the only matching shot I can find on the web and his name is not listed. :mad:
I'll try to post a pic when I get home.
Thanks in advance!
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my first roundhouse guess would be Gen. MacArthur???
Thats just off the top of my thinking....
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Mark Clark murderer should have been shot and left in the mud in Italy. :furious
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I wouldnt say its MacArther, not sure who it is. Try a search on US Army Generals 1952, might get a hit that way
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How bout Bradley?
or Sheldon?
http://www.history.navy.mil/photos/images/g440000/g445016.jpg
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How bout Bradley?
or Sheldon?
http://www.history.navy.mil/photos/images/g440000/g445016.jpg
It's not Bradley, Sheldon, or MacArthur. Facial structures don't match. I've tried several Google searches but nothing yet. Thanks for the suggestions though. Still looking... :salute
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It's not Bradley, Sheldon, or MacArthur. Facial structures don't match. I've tried several Google searches but nothing yet. Thanks for the suggestions though. Still looking... :salute
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my first roundhouse guess would be Gen. MacArthur???
Thats just off the top of my thinking....
Not even remotely close. No scrambled eggs on the hat brim and his entourage is a lot smaller than the President's, also coupled with the fact this was taken when Eisenhower was President, Truman fired MacArthur during his presidency.
ack-ack
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It's not Gerneral Van Fleet, as he is in the picture I posted at the top and is listed in the caption. He's in the background between Ike and the person in question...
I've been looking for months, literally...
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Looks like the commander of the 1st Marine Division, Major General Oliver P. Smith. The one behind Mark Clark is General Walton Walker commander of the Eight Army.
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Well,
The flash on his hat seems a bit different, might be British or Aussi maybe?
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That was my thought to, the hat doesnt look right for US Army, but it might be Marines? could be Smith, gotta find a pic
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That was my thought to, the hat doesnt look right for US Army, but it might be Marines? could be Smith, gotta find a pic
Googled an image of General Smith. Doesn't look like a match. My wife's brother, the purple heart recipient, was a marine. I'm guessing the four star general handing the medal to him in the photo I have would also be a marine.
I wasn't able to upload the pic because the web host I use was down last night. Will try again tonight.
I appreciate all of the guesses and suggestions. Still looking...
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That doesn't look like a US military hat, my guess is he's a Brit General. Sad that there is so little uniform visible to help identification.
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heres a link for smith, definitely not him
http://www.bevinalexander.com/korea/photos/korea-17.jpg
more photos here
http://www.bevinalexander.com/korea/korean-war-photos.htm
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Its not Ridgeway or James A. van Fleet so it has to be MacArthur and given the date that Truman removed him this would be winter 50-51.
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no its not MacArthur, not even close
this is MacArthur
(http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t92/Airscrew/DouglasMacArthur.jpg)
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heres a link for smith, definitely not him
http://www.bevinalexander.com/korea/photos/korea-17.jpg
more photos here
http://www.bevinalexander.com/korea/korean-war-photos.htm
Thank you Airscrew! I was looking at your links and wanted to see the caption for the photo. While Smith was certainly not in contention, I was curious to see more photos of the other individual pictured with him, General Almond. While looking at Google images of General Almond, I came across this:
(http://www.history.navy.mil/photos/images/g420000/g422491.jpg)
I'm almost 100% certain that General Lemuel Shepherd is the person I'm looking for. Here's another:
(http://www.arlingtoncemetery.net/lemuel-shepherd-time-cover-01.jpg)
The bags under the eyes, the nose to mouth lines, the ears, the hair. When I post the photo I have later you'll be able to see a better profile that matches the orignal pic I posted. He's not wearing a hat in my photo.
Others, please feel free to chime in if you agree or disagree. I'm pretty sure it's been nailed.
Thanks again Airscrew! :salute :rock
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. double post
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no its not MacArthur, not even close
this is MacArthur
(http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t92/Airscrew/DouglasMacArthur.jpg)
Its MacArthur. I asked someone that was in Korea and familiar with his chain of command and he said "It could only be MacArthur"
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It can't be MacArthur.
"The caption reads:
1952: President Dwight Eisenhower (1890 - 1969) with Generals Mark Clark (1896 - 1984) and James Van Fleet (left) in Korea. (Photo by MPI/Getty Images)"
MacArthur was relieved by Eisenhower's predecessor, President Truman on April 11th 1951.