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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Ripsnort on August 18, 2008, 11:18:43 PM
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It's tough to turn down a divorce sale. Used 1990 Jamboree by Fleetwood 27 ft with 460 ci (Just like my 4x4), but with 46,000 miles and a clean interior, it was too good of deal to pass up. Bye bye Truck Camper!
(http://pic4.picturetrail.com/VOL767/2726312/8668097/330762613.jpg)
I'll be picking this up Friday and using it Sunday for the first football game of the year at our stadium!
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why can't i find deals like that. :(
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Good deal, will work great for tailgating..... :aok
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why can't i find deals like that. :(
They're out there. I've been patiently waiting for 5 months now, searching Craigslist, noticing signs up for sale when driving around. I must have looked at over 100 Class C's and test drove about 20 of them. This one was a score, although I did pay low bluebook for it. (by "score" I mean immaculant condition, both engine and interior/exterior)
It's amazing that sellers think they should get almost as much for their RV as THEY paid for it. Hasn't anyone ever heard of depreciation? :mad:
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Rip, check the plumbing. If they used cpvc work on changing it out to pex as soon as you can. Many of the RV's made back then used substandard pipe and they have a habit of leaking... especially in cold weather.
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Rip, check the plumbing. If they used cpvc work on changing it out to pex as soon as you can. Many of the RV's made back then used substandard pipe and they have a habit of leaking... expecially in cold weather.
Good to know, Midnight. Thank you. The one thing I did not do is crawl under and check the piping from the underside. No soft spots in the floor though. Other places to check the plumbing? Under sink I suppose?
I'm not sure what you mean by changing it out to pex. Do you mean change out all the plumbing pipes (Grey, black and fresh water) pipes to that type? If so, that would be one helluva expensive job if I took it to an RV shop, no? We DO plan on using it for overnighters in winter for skiing, but no more than one night or two nights...
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Drain lines (gray and black) should be good to go. Look at the fresh water pipes that are close to the floor or subject to extreme weather. It is pretty simple to swap out cpvc for pex in accessible areas. I guess if everything still looks solid and dry leave it alone.
I also recall some fresh water pipes that used a gray flexible line. That stuff was junk. It usually had brass elbows and joints.
One more thing, All RV's made before 1996 did NOT require a smoke detector or a CO detector. Best to get one of each.
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OK RIP one thing ya gotta do now.
Get your self a copy of "Winnabago worrior" by "The dead Kennedys" ands blast it as loud as you can as you drive that big beautiful beast home.
WINNEBAGO WARRIOR - lyrics...
Roughin’ it in the great outdoors / Guidebooks tell us where to go / Winnebago Warrior / Slow down traffic climbing hills / 30 gallons to the mile / Honey, quick, the Polaroid / Chorus: Winnebago Warrior / Brave as old John Wayne / Winnebago Warrior / A true yankee pioneer / Stop at Stuckey’s for a meal / Blab all day on the CB / Winnebago Warrior / Littered campground, folding chairs / Feed Doritos to the bears / Honey, quick, the Polaroid / (Chorus) / Kill some fish down by the creek / Hand their picture by the sink / Show your grandson who’s the boss / Tie your two tote-goats to the front / U-Haul trailer full of souvenirs / that you buy along the way / (Chorus)
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Drain lines (gray and black) should be good to go. Look at the fresh water pipes that are close to the floor or subject to extreme weather. It is pretty simple to swap out cpvc for pex in accessible areas. I guess if everything still looks solid and dry leave it alone.
I also recall some fresh water pipes that used a gray flexible line. That stuff was junk. It usually had brass elbows and joints.
One more thing, All RV's made before 1996 did NOT require a smoke detector or a CO detector. Best to get one of each.
Thanks Midnight. Great info. This was does have a Gas detector and shuts it off ICOE, but I will be sure to pick up both smoke and CO detector. Should I get the hard wired type? Or Batt/Hardwire type?
LOL Boxboy! :rock
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Rip,
Either or will be fine. The hard wired type will draw the batteries down in the rig. For part time use the battery powered will do just fine. Follow the instructions in placement, smoke up high, propane detector low in gas area (kitchen) since propane is heavier than air.
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Yep, forgot to add LP detector to that list.
LP detectors, 4 to 12 inches off the ground. I always used the hard wired 12v type. You should NOT be able to turn this off.
Smoke detectors and CO can both be battery op. Hard wiring them both would be a pain due to the required locations.
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Thanks guys, you ROCK!
The unit has a stock LP detector.
I'll pick up the smoke and CO2 detector.
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Due to the age of the unit I wouldn't put much confidence in the propane detector. They do get wonky. I've already had to change mine in our 3 year old rig. It didn't make it 2 years before it went over sensitive. The model I have in our rig costs over $70.00. :( In order to test them for calibration and function they have to go back to the factory.
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Thanks Mav. Noted!
Now that I've actually written out the cashiers check, here is the whole story after searching for months for a used motorhome. I shopped around for a very long time. . The owner of this particular RV restores cars and has his own machine shop. His son plays in the same conference as Gordon's football team (Sumner Wolfpack!) Trevor (the owner) is getting a divorce and selling all his toys except his $60k 1967 Ford Fairlane with a 523 ci (probably why his wife divorced him!) He has to split all the earnings 50/50 with his soon-to-be-ex-wife . Trevor was originally was asking $11,200.00 . It sat on the market for a couple weeks and he then lowered it to $10,800. I thought that was a good time to go and talk to him. I went over and checked it out for a close up inspection . He hooked it all up and we went back before football practice the same day for a "wet" test and drive. It drove extremely well ! (only 46,000 miles on a Ford 460ci) and all appliances/A/C checked out. The interior is immaculant, very well taken care of. Everything works (Furnace, A/C, Fridge, shower, toilet, hot water, 5000 watt generator, manual leveling jacks, 6-CD changer, etc.)
A few minor things like a missing running light cover, and a 6" hole below the rear bumper that was patched over with fiberglass did not kill the deal. The roof was in excellent condition as its always been covered. It has a full shower on one side of the RV and a bathroom opposite on the other side. The downside of this bathroom arrange is that you sacrifce the couch. The wife would rather have a separate large shower and private bedroom than the big couch. Twin beds in back, and a queen over the cab. Huge dinette and two couch chairs with a table.
One other downside is that now the kids are no longer within "back hand" distance with they're getting out of hand on trips, as they'll be seat belted in too far for me to reach.
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On a side note.. MY dad showed me two RV's that were pretty much the same and in very good condition that I could get for almost nothing.. both were "bounders" very large and well equipped.. one he could have for free from a lady he does handyman work for and the other was for sale for $3000 but the guy would take $2000.
If I had a place with some acreage I woulda took em both as guest houses.
They have either big block chevy or big block ford motors in em which I coulda pulled out and used for something good someday.
lazs
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On a side note.. MY dad showed me two RV's that were pretty much the same and in very good condition that I could get for almost nothing.. both were "bounders" very large and well equipped.. one he could have for free from a lady he does handyman work for and the other was for sale for $3000 but the guy would take $2000.
If I had a place with some acreage I woulda took em both as guest houses.
They have either big block chevy or big block ford motors in em which I coulda pulled out and used for something good someday.
lazs
Hey Lazs, what's your preference of motor? Chev 454 block or Ford 460? I have a 460 in my '97 F250 and its very strong. I didn't buy it for the gas mileage as I only put about 2000 miles a year on it, but the thing can pull a house off its foundation...
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Hey Lazs, what's your preference of motor? Chev 454 block or Ford 460? I have a 460 in my '97 F250 and its very strong. I didn't buy it for the gas mileage as I only put about 2000 miles a year on it, but the thing can pull a house off its foundation...
I KNOW THIS WASN'T DIRECTED AT ME, but........
the 454 chevy is very reliable. it makes pretty good horsepower, depending on the year you're talking about. i don't think it's very torquey though, as far as a big block goes.
the 460 ford, has always been a torque monster. depending on the year(again) it can make some good horsepower. it, too, is a very relaible engine. it's somewhat easy to work on, but it, along with the 390, has a tendency to burn out the exhaust manifold gaskets.
still, given the choice, i'd take the 460.
just my 2 cents
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I KNOW THIS WASN'T DIRECTED AT ME, but........
the 454 chevy is very reliable. it makes pretty good horsepower, depending on the year you're talking about. i don't think it's very torquey though, as far as a big block goes.
the 460 ford, has always been a torque monster. depending on the year(again) it can make some good horsepower. it, too, is a very relaible engine. it's somewhat easy to work on, but it, along with the 390, has a tendency to burn out the exhaust manifold gaskets.
still, given the choice, i'd take the 460.
just my 2 cents
Cap, you don't know how many motorhomes that I looked at that had a leaky exhaust manifold gaskets on their 460's. I called my friend, a mechanic, and he said worst case scenario was $500 to replace both sides (tough to get to in those short-nosed F350's) or worst case was a busted bolt (common) and $1500 (including removal of heads, and bolt extraction process).
I've not had that problem with my 460, nor did this motorhome have the problem, but yes indeed, they are notorious for it.
Thanks for your post.
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One other downside is that now the kids are no longer within "back hand" distance with they're getting out of hand on trips, as they'll be seat belted in too far for me to reach.
Don't make me come back there! Honey! Take the wheel!
:rofl
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Don't make me come back there! Honey! Take the wheel!
:rofl
heh, well, they are getting older now, and soon will be bigger than me! :uhoh
(http://www.comictreadmill.com/CTMBlogarchives/2008Images/KORound01-thumb.jpg)
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When they get bigger/stronger than you thats when you will regret making them eat their vegetables all these years. :uhoh
:D
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Cap, you don't know how many motorhomes that I looked at that had a leaky exhaust manifold gaskets on their 460's. I called my friend, a mechanic, and he said worst case scenario was $500 to replace both sides (tough to get to in those short-nosed F350's) or worst case was a busted bolt (common) and $1500 (including removal of heads, and bolt extraction process).
I've not had that problem with my 460, nor did this motorhome have the problem, but yes indeed, they are notorious for it.
Thanks for your post.
well, i've never pulled a head due to one. it's usually one of the rear bolts that breaks.
i use a 90 degree air drill, and drill it out.....then just re-tap it for a new bolt.
what i never looked into though(kind of strange too, cause i like to know what causes pattern failures) is why all of the ford FE blocks do this.
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well, i've never pulled a head due to one. it's usually one of the rear bolts that breaks.
i use a 90 degree air drill, and drill it out.....then just re-tap it for a new bolt.
what i never looked into though(kind of strange too, cause i like to know what causes pattern failures) is why all of the ford FE blocks do this.
Dunno. Heat? Poor metal choice for bolts?
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Dunno. Heat? Poor metal choice for bolts?
metal choice would make more sense,.........i think
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I just realized that I never told you guys what I actually paid for the RV:
$9500
(He originally wanted $11,200)
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Binding on the bolts due to the different expansion co-efficients between the head and manifold and Ford not allowing enough play in the through-hole of the manifold so the bolts would not get bound.
The rear is of the head is the hottest so it almost always has the problem. If you oblong the bolt holes on the rear 4 through holes a little, the problem stops being a problem.
Or replace the cast iron manifolds with headers will also take care of it.
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Binding on the bolts due to the different expansion co-efficients between the head and manifold and Ford not allowing enough play in the through-hole of the manifold so the bolts would not get bound.
The rear is of the head is the hottest so it almost always has the problem. If you oblong the bolt holes on the rear 4 through holes a little, the problem stops being a problem.
Or replace the cast iron manifolds with headers will also take care of it.
Damn, sounds like the same problem with the Double Wasp engines they had, with the rear pistons heating up hotter. :)
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I put my "Ol' Reliable" up for sale today. :cry I don't have room in my RV garage since the new motor home will take up one half, and the boat and trailer take up the other half.
http://seattle.craigslist.org/skc/rvs/804728630.html
Here is the same style truck camper in the RV Heritage Museum in Indiana. (2nd pic from top--this was a 1969, mine is a 1973, last year that Holiday Rambler made a Truck Camper)
http://rv-mh-hall-of-fame.org/museum.html
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Brought her home and cleaned her up. :aok
http://www.picturetrail.com/sfx/album/view/20380655
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**************YATZEE****************
i found a free version for ya to listen to RIPPER.
check it out cause now your OFFICAL!
http://www.last.fm/music/Dead+Kennedys/_/Winnebago+Warrior
i hope you sing that chorus every time you hit the road............
:rock
:aok
:salute
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Shame you are not a ham, Rip...that thing would be great for VHF/UHF mountaintopping.
Congrats!
ROX
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1st trip report: Shakedown cruise
We decided to take 4 days and go trout fishing at the Tilton River, in Morton, WA. The RV got 10.5 mpg doing 55 mph, and about 60% highway (there are alot of towns and curvey, mountainous roads, thus "60% highway 40% city" guesstimate) I was more than pleased with the gas mileage, as my former F250 and camper got a best 8.5 mpg, and 16 feet less living space!
One minor fresh water leak coming from the bathroom put me in a panic, but it was soon discovered that the leak was minor, and simply tightening the plastic fitting was all that was needed. It was apparent that this was a new leak, as there was no sign of rotting carpet or wood upon inspection.
The stock bathroom fan up in the bathroom vent has seen better days, just the fan blades, probably beaten from years past bugs trying to enter, but it worked!
My only real complaint about this RV is that while sitting on the throne, I'm up higher than I'm used to.
Shower worked wonderful and it was really nice having a full sized shower!
The furnace worked almost too well! Set at 72, it typically stayed 74 inside the RVZ(body heat assisted no doubt)
The kids had a blast even though it was showery and chilly. There were alot of fish to be had, but we only brought home 8 since my kids don't like trout (its weird, they like other types of fish though!)
Of course I came home with a list of things to do, like install a flat-screen TV (the one we have took up too much counterspace, and while the parents played cards during the rainstorm, it was nice having the TV to entertain the kids)
I'm also going to purchase a Gen-Turi, replace the worn carpet with newer stuff, add a few hooks for my hats and a robe in the bedroom, and fix the worn door molding inside the screen door.
My wife's only complaint was that the kitchen space didn't get much bigger over our 11.5 ft camper, but the fact that we had so much more room annexed any further complaints! :)
Some pics of my rig and my neighbor's 27ft trailer while camping over this rainy week-end:
(http://pic4.picturetrail.com/VOL767/2726312/20457146/332844700.jpg)
(http://pic4.picturetrail.com/VOL767/2726312/20457146/332844710.jpg)
(http://pic4.picturetrail.com/VOL767/2726312/20457146/332845013.jpg)
(http://pic4.picturetrail.com/VOL767/2726312/20457146/332844566.jpg)
(http://pic4.picturetrail.com/VOL767/2726312/20457146/332844734.jpg)
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all that thing needs is "free candy" pained on the side, then park near a school. write from prison.
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all that thing needs is "free candy" pained on the side, then park near a school. write from prison.
Remind me not to put "Texas" on my list of places to go RV'ing. :uhoh
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I'll be picking this up Friday and using it Sunday for the first football game of the year at our stadium!
Wow. You bought your own stadium too?
Lower-middle management must be paying well these days.
;),
Wab
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Remind me not to put "Texas" on my list of places to go RV'ing. :uhoh
:P
"its like a whole nother country!"
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hey rip...............where is "the U-haul trailer full of souveniers"
im telling ya every time you guys get in that beauty for a trip you need to put "Winnabago worrior" on the radio in honor of all the other not so lucky RV's out there!
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hey rip...............where is "the U-haul trailer full of souveniers"
im telling ya every time you guys get in that beauty for a trip you need to put "Winnabago worrior" on the radio in honor of all the other not so lucky RV's out there!
Dude, my 12 year old has that song downloaded on his Ipod now. :rofl :rofl :rofl
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Wow. You bought your own stadium too?
Lower-middle management must be paying well these days.
;),
Wab
LOL, errr.. "our stadium" meaning our home field in football. :) But you knew that.