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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Chalenge on August 24, 2008, 01:10:07 AM
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Heres an experiment for everyone that loves global warming. This will prepare you for the coming arctic melt.
Experiment 1:
required equipment
1 glass
Ice to fill the glass
Water
Fill a glass full of ice. Fill the space remaining in the glass with water. Wait until the ice melts completely.
If the water starts to overflow from the glass during the melting process then proceed to experiment 2: Building the Ark
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Global Warming is real, but the scam is 'Man Made Global Warming' Which Al Gore is finaly getting sued by the Weather Channel for scamming millions of dollars w/ Carbon Credits and Ethanol. (Ethanol is a waste)
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Global Warming is real, but the scam is 'Man Made Global Warming' Which Al Gore is finaly getting sued by the Weather Channel for scamming millions of dollars w/ Carbon Credits and Ethanol. (Ethanol is a waste)
You missed the entire point of the experiment. I suggest you try it.
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Experiment 3: experiment on how to experiment.
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Rule 4
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Yeah right so Greenland will just pass off all the ice into water and then it magically ALL fills the ocean to overflowing without any water being retained? Greenland ONLY is going to melt and the arctic regions ice will stay frozen? Your living in fantasy land. Even if all the ice in the world melted the ocean levels would not rise one inch.
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And what about the Ice on Antarctica?
The north pole might be floating (what's left of it) but there is a heck of a lot of ice that isn't.
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Its all still ice. I have a family member WAY up in the Arctic right now (ANWR area) and they are preparing for total darkness and winter. BTW it doesnt matter how warm the Earth is its dark in winter up north and it will always freeze. The pictures you see of ice bergs breaking off and falling dramatically into the ocean occur every year. We happen to be at the peak of the warmer cycles that will now start to reverse. I learned all this when I was in school... but of course that was before the Government took over schools.
People forget about precipitation and evaporation and clouds and atmospheric retention and ground seepage and on and on... when they talk about climate change. If the planet didnt have cycles like this there wouldnt be life here.
Your beach front property is safe.
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The archaeological record is riddled with as much evidence of much higher sea levels with warmer climates as is it lower ones during ice ages.
One of the two is heading our way, we just have to wait for the earth to "decide" which way it's going to swing. Either way we're in for one hell of a ride.
Odds are it's likely that we will not be around to see it but the records also show that when it does happen, it's a relatively quick process.
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It isn't the ice in the ocean, you numbskull, it's the ice that is sitting on land that creates the sea level rise.
Yes.. he should redo his experiment, but add two more glasses worth of ice and then try to force them in the glass with water. If the water overflows he should proceeed with building his ark.. :lol
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Its all still ice. I have a family member WAY up in the Arctic right now (ANWR area) and they are preparing for total darkness and winter. BTW it doesnt matter how warm the Earth is its dark in winter up north and it will always freeze. The pictures you see of ice bergs breaking off and falling dramatically into the ocean occur every year. We happen to be at the peak of the warmer cycles that will now start to reverse. I learned all this when I was in school... but of course that was before the Government took over schools.
People forget about precipitation and evaporation and clouds and atmospheric retention and ground seepage and on and on... when they talk about climate change. If the planet didnt have cycles like this there wouldnt be life here.
Your beach front property is safe.
lol I guess you have it all figured out.. Al Gore should just pay you millions and you can go on a speech tour with him. I'm really starting to wonder how bad the next generation of kids are going to be. The movie idiocracy is looking more and more like the real future. :uhoh :rolleyes: :uhoh
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lol I guess you have it all figured out.. Al Gore should just pay you millions and you can go on a speech tour with him. I'm really starting to wonder how bad the next generation of kids are going to be. The movie idiocracy is looking more and more like the real future. :uhoh :rolleyes: :uhoh
Idk, if you are trying to sound like you belive Al Gore, than yes, you should worry.
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When the Earth starts to freeze (thats the next movie/book by Gore) we should build a pipe around him and then well have heat when he tries to talk his way out.
The archeological evidence of 'higher seas' come from tectonic plates that move upward as they collide. At one time they were at sea level. The alps for instance came from the collision of Europe and Africa. In the crust of most mountains you can find sea shells of a sort all over the US but that doesnt mean the Ocean was ever that high. No one can point to a piece of mountain and say 'the ocean was this high at this time' because the plates have moved inland and up in altitude over a timespan of millenia. All of the seas around the Philippines (in fact from Australia to Africa) was at one time just above sea level. Must have been one giant arctic region then huh? :D
Al Gore depends on a 3rd grade visual of people that the Earth is only 6000 years old and just 5950 years ago was covered in water. Its the same visual that causes kids to think that before they were born there was nothing here or that everything was black and white and without color.
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Global Warming - Debunked!
Not a real news flash moment.
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Global Warming - Debunked!
:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
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Heres an experiment for everyone that loves global warming. This will prepare you for the coming arctic melt.
Experiment 1:
required equipment
1 glass
Ice to fill the glass
Water
Fill a glass full of ice. Fill the space remaining in the glass with water. Wait until the ice melts completely.
If the water starts to overflow from the glass during the melting process then proceed to experiment 2: Building the Ark
now im anti all this global warming stuff but....
this "experiment" shows that if the north pole melts, the sea level will no rise AT ALL..... However what about the greenland icecover, antarctica and all the perma frost? This is where the sea level changes come from.
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Do you drive a cab chalenge. :rofl
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Yeah right so Greenland will just pass off all the ice into water and then it magically ALL fills the ocean to overflowing without any water being retained? Greenland ONLY is going to melt and the arctic regions ice will stay frozen? Your living in fantasy land. Even if all the ice in the world melted the ocean levels would not rise one inch.
Hmmm... It seems to be a well tested fantasy (http://www.physorg.com/news5619.html).
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"I'm going...to make....this pencil...disappear..." WHAM...."and 'Poof'...it's gone!"
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Obviously floating ice won't raise sea level if it melts. It's reasonable to expect that land ice melting and flowing into the sea will add to the volume of water there and raise the level (assuming the land wasn't floating). Since we've all heard Angus and others proclaiming the north's rapidly melting ice how much has it increased sea level over the last 20 - 30 years?
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Actually if you believe the published figures, which I don't have handy nor could I be bothered looking for them, yes.
I'm sure someone else will post them up soon enough.
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Dang, I keep making a mess. I fill my water glass to the top and then carefully slid an ice cube in and it overflows :furious
shamus
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I guess he never observed what happens in the spring when the winter snow melts. :rolleyes:
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The other thing to note is the Ice shelves off the coast of Antarctica and Greenland are largely supported by the land they grow from.
Only a small fraction of their weight is borne by the water underneath. When these shelves break apart that mass is added to the water in the ocean and the volume and overall sea level increases accordingly.
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I guess he never observed what happens in the spring when the winter snow melts. :rolleyes:
WHAT WHAT WHAT? theres still snow on earth? i thought global warming had stopped all snow and ice from forming?
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Even if all the ice in the world melted the ocean levels would not rise one inch.
:rofl
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I ask again in case anyone is privy to the facts, with all the ice that's been melting recently, how much has sea level been raised?
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I ask again in case anyone is privy to the facts, with all the ice that's been melting recently, how much has sea level been raised?
Ok it is if all the ice melted.
Using the ice volume figures from above it is straightforward to estimate the effect on sea level were all this ice melted. Melting the 29,300,000 km3 of grounded ice would produce 26,100,000 km3 of water. Note that melting of floating ice has no effect on sea level. Also, about 2,100,000 km3 of the grounded ice in Antarctica is below sea level [19] and would be replaced by water. Thus, the net addition to the world's oceans would be about 24,000,000 km3 of water spread over the 361,000,000 km2 area of the world's oceans, giving a depth of 67 meters. The new ocean area would be slightly larger, of course, since some areas now land would be covered with water. The final result would be around 66 meters (current estimates range between 63 and 75 meters).
http://www.johnstonsarchive.net/environment/waterworld.html
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I ask again in case anyone is privy to the facts, with all the ice that's been melting recently, how much has sea level been raised?
About an inch in last ten years. If measured acceleration is taken into account, it is projected to rise about a foot until 2100. That is, if nothing changes.
Above is for the mean sea level. It varies locally.
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I ask again in case anyone is privy to the facts, with all the ice that's been melting recently, how much has sea level been raised?
I did a brief searchand turned up 10-25cm in last 100 years and this quote from another site
Estimates for the 20th century show that global average sea level rose at a rate of about 1.7 mm per year. Satellite observations available since the early 1990s provide more accurate data with nearly global coverage. This decade-long satellite altimetry data set shows that since 1993, and shows rising at a rate of around 3 mm per year, significantly higher than the average during the previous half century. Global levels are projected to rise during the 21st century at a greater rate than during 1961 to 2003.
here is link to site with above qyoted paragraph
http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0geu5ktn7FIfM8AOHVXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTE0bmdwYmRrBHNlYwNzcgRwb3MDMTMEY29sbwNhYzIEdnRpZANERkQ1XzEyNA--/SIG=12bfupdq5/EXP=1219686573/**http%3a//www.global-greenhouse-warming.com/sea-level.html (http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0geu5ktn7FIfM8AOHVXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTE0bmdwYmRrBHNlYwNzcgRwb3MDMTMEY29sbwNhYzIEdnRpZANERkQ1XzEyNA--/SIG=12bfupdq5/EXP=1219686573/**http%3a//www.global-greenhouse-warming.com/sea-level.html)
Here is a site with some charts
http://www.grida.no/climate/vital/19.htm (http://www.grida.no/climate/vital/19.htm)
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I did a brief searchand turned up 10-25cm in last 100 years and this quote from another site
Estimates for the 20th century show that global average sea level rose at a rate of about 1.7 mm per year. Satellite observations available since the early 1990s provide more accurate data with nearly global coverage. This decade-long satellite altimetry data set shows that since 1993, and shows rising at a rate of around 3 mm per year, significantly higher than the average during the previous half century. Global levels are projected to rise during the 21st century at a greater rate than during 1961 to 2003.
here is link to site with above qyoted paragraph
http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0geu5ktn7FIfM8AOHVXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTE0bmdwYmRrBHNlYwNzcgRwb3MDMTMEY29sbwNhYzIEdnRpZANERkQ1XzEyNA--/SIG=12bfupdq5/EXP=1219686573/**http%3a//www.global-greenhouse-warming.com/sea-level.html (http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0geu5ktn7FIfM8AOHVXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTE0bmdwYmRrBHNlYwNzcgRwb3MDMTMEY29sbwNhYzIEdnRpZANERkQ1XzEyNA--/SIG=12bfupdq5/EXP=1219686573/**http%3a//www.global-greenhouse-warming.com/sea-level.html)
Here is a site with some charts
http://www.grida.no/climate/vital/19.htm (http://www.grida.no/climate/vital/19.htm)
If we've already suffered massive melting I don't think the tiny increase resulting harbingers much doom. Heck, it might even be due to the increased population taking cruises of visiting the beach. ;)
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Then explain how it was that natives were living in Florida at the same time Greenland was green.
If global climate change occurs to the extreme (and I think its the worst climatologists saying so) then the air will also hold and retain more water it will rain more frequently and more water will be within the ecological system (you know the natural process of filtering water feeding root systems etc etc). You might even see some natural growth in underground water systems that had previously dried up.
This has all happened before and humans survived it.
Our worse danger comes from China flushing all their waste into the oceans.
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the artic ice pack is bigger this year than last, but still below avg, check with NASA.
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If we've already suffered massive melting I don't think the tiny increase resulting harbingers much doom. Heck, it might even be due to the increased population taking cruises of visiting the beach. ;)
Actually most of the reading I have done, states that the northern ice would not cause much of a problems as far as sea levels are concerned. Most of the problem with that is the ecological systems there would fail without the ice and many species would become extinct (but that is a bit off typic isn't it). If there is going to be a dramatic sea level rise, most of the info I have seen says it will come from Antarctica. If I am not mistaken this is due to the fact that most of the Arctic is floating ice excepty for some comparably small land masses, comparing that to Antarctica which is mostly land based ice.
Before the nay sayers start in, it was stated in this same information that even with the current rise in temperature and taking into consideration the rate at which that in increase also goes up. It could take several hundred if several thousands of years for that to melt to a point that would raise the sea levels.
funny I keep telling myself I need to stop reading o'club
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I captured this pics last year over Greenland ,the ice is sitting on top of mountains not in the ocean (or inside the glass).
(http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a146/johny35/DSC00236.jpg)
(http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a146/johny35/DSC00235.jpg)
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wow, there is ice in greenland, why hasn't it melted?
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Hey GHI those are beutiful pics man, awsome view and though that ice is on a mountain definitely not in a glassor overan ocean. That is also not all the ice left in the north either. Greenland has only a small portion of the Arctic polar ice cap.
As seen in the below link which is a view from space.
http://www.fourmilab.ch/cgi-bin/uncgi/Earth?imgsize=320&opt=-l&lat=90&ns=North&lon=0&ew=West&alt=1000000&img=learth.evif (http://www.fourmilab.ch/cgi-bin/uncgi/Earth?imgsize=320&opt=-l&lat=90&ns=North&lon=0&ew=West&alt=1000000&img=learth.evif)
the above link came from this site
http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0geu5Hh07FIwNUAKZJXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTEzMGRtNDc5BHNlYwNzcgRwb3MDNARjb2xvA2FjMgR2dGlkA0RGRDVfMTI0/SIG=11l65d5p6/EXP=1219700065/**http%3a//www.athropolis.com/map.htm (http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0geu5Hh07FIwNUAKZJXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTEzMGRtNDc5BHNlYwNzcgRwb3MDNARjb2xvA2FjMgR2dGlkA0RGRDVfMTI0/SIG=11l65d5p6/EXP=1219700065/**http%3a//www.athropolis.com/map.htm)
in case you were interested in looking further
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I captured this pics last year over Greenland ,the ice is sitting on top of mountains not in the ocean (or inside the glass).
(http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a146/johny35/DSC00236.jpg)
(http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a146/johny35/DSC00235.jpg)
Those aren't mountains, they're just really tall frozen waves. :lol
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Another interesting read for those interested in this topic.
ice cap info (http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0geu9Cl1rFIEvEARYZXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTE0YXBlcmZ1BHNlYwNzcgRwb3MDMTgEY29sbwNhYzIEdnRpZANERkQ1XzEyNA--/SIG=124bq421s/EXP=1219700773/**http%3a//science.howstuffworks.com/question473.htm)
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Another interesting read for those interested in this topic.
ice cap info (http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0geu9Cl1rFIEvEARYZXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTE0YXBlcmZ1BHNlYwNzcgRwb3MDMTgEY29sbwNhYzIEdnRpZANERkQ1XzEyNA--/SIG=124bq421s/EXP=1219700773/**http%3a//science.howstuffworks.com/question473.htm)
This higher temperature may be causing some floating icebergs to melt, but this will not make the oceans rise. Icebergs are large floating chunks of ice. In order to float, the iceberg displaces a volume of water that has a weight equal to that of the iceberg.
This scientist disagrees (http://www.physorg.com/news5619.html).
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If we've already suffered massive melting I don't think the tiny increase resulting harbingers much doom. Heck, it might even be due to the increased population taking cruises of visiting the beach. ;)
Most of the ice that has melted so far has been ice in the water, so it doesn't displace the sea level. We haven't seen a lot of land bound ice melt yet, that will be the last ice that melts if it does.
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WHAT WHAT WHAT? theres still snow on earth? i thought global warming had stopped all snow and ice from forming?
Not in frikin IOWA.... :lol
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This scientist disagrees (http://www.physorg.com/news5619.html).
Interesting read there Iceman. That even makes sense.
Just remember though that is still as small amount compared to the land bound Antarctic ice, but the article you found there makes perfect sense to me.
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OY!!! Ice in ur cup does raise the water level!!! also, we are accelerating global warming, also, the ice melting is also messing up the Atlantic Current (whatever its called)!! That movie "The Day After Tomorrow" is based on an extremely probable situation and might actually happen. :uhoh look up the info, it all around you, Discovery Channel made Planet Green Channel and it tells you alot more than even I knew. And yes,, the ice melting IS raising the water level in the oceans, that's one of the reasons Katrina was so devastating... you remember when a chunk of ice broke off of Antarctica that was the size of Rhode Island right?????? Fresh water introduced into the ocean is also one of the reasons that the Air Currents over America are steadily moving North every year...in Massachusetts we are getting Georgia weather... (and yes i know this cuz my dad had Basic in Georgia)...all you guys need to do is read up...strangely i gotta agree with the guy who started this thread
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ohh and also, while i cool down from my random rampage :lol, the ice when melting is displacing more water than you think crockett
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Nice pictures ghi! Still not very green I see.
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Haven't seen 90 yet this year...
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Yeah right so Greenland will just pass off all the ice into water and then it magically ALL fills the ocean to overflowing without any water being retained? Greenland ONLY is going to melt and the arctic regions ice will stay frozen? Your living in fantasy land. Even if all the ice in the world melted the ocean levels would not rise one inch.
heh...
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Heres an experiment for everyone that loves global warming. This will prepare you for the coming arctic melt.
Experiment 1:
required equipment
1 glass
Ice to fill the glass
Water
Fill a glass full of ice. Fill the space remaining in the glass with water. Wait until the ice melts completely.
If the water starts to overflow from the glass during the melting process then proceed to experiment 2: Building the Ark
Nice try. Full glass of water and two big ice cubes melting into it. :aok
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This is not "Global Warming - Debunked". Its "Flooding debunked". The cause of the Ice to melt is STILL Global Warming, no matter if there is flooding or not as a result of it.
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You really wanna scare yourself .. read a lil story called 'The HAB Theory'
Personally.. I don't beleive 'global warming' is a problem .. that's why GOD made Central Air :D
-Frank aka GE
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I am (personally) not so concerned about water level rising, but for the lack of decent winters during recent years. It sucks walking in rain and slush instead of having snow for ski'ing and natural ice for skating. That was the standard normal winter still a decade or two ago around where I live. :( Seems like one needs to move northwards in the future to have decent winters.
And still some resource hogging, wastefully living people have no decency to worry even slightly about our shared globe. They don't care what they leave to their kids... if they even have any. "There is no such thing as global warming.... if it means I have to change my wasteful ways... or if it cuts my immediate profits" ... :confused: yeah, sure.
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Haven't seen 90 yet this year...
lucky. Raleigh has been miserable.
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Haven't seen 90 yet this year...
Same, and that rare in Mass. during August, we sometimes hit 100 in Baastaan.
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Normally in August I cant stand the heat enough to do any golfing. This year I got four rounds in already and it wasnt too bad. My cousins report from ANWR (missionary trip) is that the Inuit say the ice is 'softer' but the polar bears are plentiful (now that they are protected in U.S. lands the Inuit cannot hunt them in U.S. territory at least). Inuit of the Arctic region reported that the polar bear was (and should be) managed through hunting. Protecting the species will result in starving bears because their population numbers are already at a maximum for the foraging range they have. Inuit know that when you see polar bears ranging beyond their normal foraging range that it is because the territorial species is over populated. Protecting bears was a political move to bring attention to global warming and will only harm the polar bear as a species. Today there are between 20000-25000 polar bears up from an estimated 15500 in 1972. In the United States polar bears are a federally protected species ever since the Marine Mammal Protection Act of 1972. Only Native people (Inuit) could hunt them and have always been involved in managing the species. Listing them as threatened was a pointless gesture.
The Inuit people have more then 100 words for snow (actually alot more). They say the pattern in ice/snow behavior we see today has occured before (60 years ago) so get ready for a hard winter! I would consider them to be more expert on their eco-system then anything a U.S. scientist (bound to politically controlled funding) has to say.
Note also that the protection bill for polar bears contained a caveat allowing oil drilling in polar bear habitats (according to Sierra Club). Its not about the bears nor climate. Its about raping you for more tax dollars.
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it's the middle of Aug, the trees in Pa are dropping their leaves already, it will be a long cold winter.
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Heres an experiment for everyone that loves global warming. This will prepare you for the coming arctic melt.
Experiment 1:
required equipment
1 glass
Ice to fill the glass
Water
Fill a glass full of ice. Fill the space remaining in the glass with water. Wait until the ice melts completely.
If the water starts to overflow from the glass during the melting process then proceed to experiment 2: Building the Ark
While this is VERY true... the Global Warming fear is not concerned about sea based ice... The problem is the land based ice that is not is not currently displacing water.
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Heres an experiment for everyone that loves global warming. This will prepare you for the coming arctic melt.
Experiment 1:
required equipment
1 glass
Ice to fill the glass
Water
Fill a glass full of ice. Fill the space remaining in the glass with water. Wait until the ice melts completely.
If the water starts to overflow from the glass during the melting process then proceed to experiment 2: Building the Ark
I got a better experiment.
Take that glass
Pour out most of the water
Keep the ice
Fill halfway with a good scotch
then hand it to me.
We'll need to repeat the experiment 3-4 times to verify our results.
:devil,
Wab
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Lol Wabbit. I was trying to get somebody (anybody) to observe a few things most people overlook. No one has it yet. GUess it should just pass on...
Scotch Cognac Bourbon are all good even with global warming...
I did notice right away the majority of people never read past the first post.... :rolleyes:
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I am (personally) not so concerned about water level rising, but for the lack of decent winters during recent years. It sucks walking in rain and slush instead of having snow for ski'ing and natural ice for skating. That was the standard normal winter still a decade or two ago around where I live. :( Seems like one needs to move northwards in the future to have decent winters.
And still some resource hogging, wastefully living people have no decency to worry even slightly about our shared globe. They don't care what they leave to their kids... if they even have any. "There is no such thing as global warming.... if it means I have to change my wasteful ways... or if it cuts my immediate profits" ... :confused: yeah, sure.
I'm all for some warming my heating bill is reducing by 20% two years in a row now. What really scares me is if the predictions of Gulf stream moving are correct - we'll have arctic climate soon. We're at the same level with Alaska. I know I'll ditch this country immediately if the temperature drops even lower than it is now.
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That is the scary one. The ice is actually venting the gulf stream "our way". So, I don+t know where it would go, but there it would get madly hotter, while we have a temporary mini ice-age....untill we catch up again.
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A changing or diminished gulf stream could explain past ice ages. It may be a naturally occurring cycle.
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AFAIK the ice age is explained with a certain solar-system cycle.
Bear in mind that there are 2 poles and the Gulf stream is in the north.
It's all a bit interesting when you think of that the ocean temp is achieving enough temp to form a Hurricane south of the equador though. Only one known case.....in our days...and it is recent.
Maybe a new "gulf" stream in the birth progress?
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Lol Wabbit. I was trying to get somebody (anybody) to observe a few things most people overlook. No one has it yet. GUess it should just pass on...
Scotch Cognac Bourbon are all good even with global warming...
I did notice right away the majority of people never read past the first post.... :rolleyes:
Huh? Did you read past your original post?
Let's see:
1) You are wrong on the premise: As has been pointed out, your experiment, were it valid, does not debunk Global Warming, only the predicted effects of Global Warming.
2) You are wrong on the logic: As has been pointed out, sea level changes aren't exclusively attributed to pack ice melt. The vast amount of frozen fresh water that is not currently floating in the ocean is expected to contribute to sea levels rising.
3) You are wrong on the science: two people have cited experiments and explanations showing that there is actually a water level rise when floating freshwater melts in salt water.
Three strikes!
(Disclaimer: Just pointing out how wrong, wrong, and wrong you are to clear up the lack of science in your argument. Don't mistake that as me believing that sea level rise will be catastrophic - I don't - or that even if it will, that I think there's anything that the government should do about it from a lawmaking or spending perspective - I don't).
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Water added to water means more water.
It is hard to claim that ice is growing and temperature is cooling while SL is still raising....
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the sea level is not rising, the land is sinking , too many beach front condos.
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Huh? Did you read past your original post?
Not a good question samiam. You missed it too which I expected.
Just to say it another way: Greenland Ice will still be there on the day you leave this earth on the day your children leave and so on and so on. If somehow that were to change then also you must accept that arctic ice would no longer be in place which is something you dont accept. When ice melts it leaves behind 91% of its original volume in the form of water. While it is said that the ice on Greenland is on average 2.2 Km thick it would take considerable time for that to melt with even a five degree temperature shift. Now that you have shown your ultimate superiority in experimentation and calculation both why dont you reveal to us all the time required for all ice on Greenland to melt given an increase of five degrees in global temperature?
I will go ahead and reveal the result to you. It wont melt and worse the considerable fresh water trapped within ice on the Antarctic continent would remain there even if the temperature rose thirtyfive degrees.
I would much rather have global warming then global cooling.