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Title: Should we have more of a selection for plane models?
Post by: Mak333 on August 24, 2008, 12:02:52 PM
I apologize ahead of time, because I understand that this has most likely been talked about before.  However, I think more models of the same plane would be a nice addition to the game.  Most of the planes in the game have one or only two variants of the same plane.  Take the A-20G for instance, or even the 4 engine American bombers... they had many other variants through the war years just as we have seen with the 109 and 190 family.  HTC has already added on to the P38s and B25s, I think that a more diverse plane set would be appealing to most everyone.

Discuss.
Title: Re: Should we have more of a selection for plane models?
Post by: Masherbrum on August 24, 2008, 12:04:35 PM
Just implement the I.A.R. 81c.   
Title: Re: Should we have more of a selection for plane models?
Post by: stroker71 on August 24, 2008, 12:35:33 PM
Just implement the I.A.R. 81c.   

Yeah we need another hanger queen except for SEA events
Title: Re: Should we have more of a selection for plane models?
Post by: Spikes on August 24, 2008, 12:50:07 PM
For Christ's sake, NO! We need more NEW planes than more new models.
Title: Re: Should we have more of a selection for plane models?
Post by: Motherland on August 24, 2008, 01:04:55 PM
Yeah we need another hanger queen except for SEA events
Pretty much anything added will be considered a hangar queen beside the La7, Spit 16, P51 and N1K.
Title: Re: Should we have more of a selection for plane models?
Post by: thndregg on August 24, 2008, 01:49:03 PM
For Christ's sake, NO! We need more NEW planes than more new models.

By "new", do you mean fill in the planeset, or we need more uber-late-war stuff?
Title: Re: Should we have more of a selection for plane models?
Post by: Spikes on August 24, 2008, 02:44:31 PM
By "new", do you mean fill in the planeset, or we need more uber-late-war stuff?
Fill the plane set, of course! Jap planes, German bombers, Italian planes, Russian planes. I understand Germany and America were the two biggest players in the war (arguably), but other countries played their part.
Title: Re: Should we have more of a selection for plane models?
Post by: Karnak on August 24, 2008, 04:59:05 PM
Fill the plane set, of course! Jap planes, German bombers, Italian planes, Russian planes. I understand Germany and America were the two biggest players in the war (arguably), but other countries played their part.
I'd say Russia and the US were the two biggest players, then Germany and the UK close to parity, then Japan and following distantly, Italy and France.
Title: Re: Should we have more of a selection for plane models?
Post by: Masherbrum on August 24, 2008, 06:47:33 PM
Yeah we need another hanger queen except for SEA events

It'd fly circles around your 205 all day long too.   Wait, I bet we need another 109?   Wait, I know, we need another Pee47?    Wait, hold on, we need another 190?   I pretty fly the Ki-61 exclusively.   It's a hangar queen to you AND the SEA events.   They ignored the historical basis of Rangoon and implemented the A6M5 instead of using the Ki-61 which, was involved in the WWII event.   The SEA group lost a possible player in me for blatantly snubbing the Ki-61. 

So why punish folks like me who would fly it exclusively for the challenge of still shooting down "hot shot" easy kill La7's, Niki's, Spixteen who get cocky and end up in the tower?   

No thank you.   IAR 81c, Mig3, Brewster, Do-217 and the PBY.   That's it.   
Title: Re: Should we have more of a selection for plane models?
Post by: Motherland on August 24, 2008, 06:52:58 PM
JG11 was assigned the Ki61 in the last Pacific FSO (we usually try to get the 84, but it was severely limited in this FSO). As a bunch of guys who fly Luftwaffe Iron exclusively Late War and most of the time in the AvA (it isn't always available), we kicked arse- had the best kill record for us yet (against Hellcats and FM2s) The Ki61 is NICE. I'll be asking for it the next time were in a Pacific FSO :aok
The C.202 is a 'hangar queen' if there ever was one, but it's a very fun aircraft to fly and can give LW planes a handful if the pilots aren't on their toes.
The 109F is one of the best of the 109s-a 1941 aircraft- and the G6 is one of the worst, but it's still my favorite.
Planes that are considered 'hangar queens' tend to be my favorites. Just because it's not an uber '44/'45 plane doesn't mean it doesn't have a place in Aces High.
In fact, at this point- in my opinion of course- if they are an uber '44/'45 plane, they shouldn't have a place on HTC's future additions list- not for a long while.
Title: Re: Should we have more of a selection for plane models?
Post by: Masherbrum on August 24, 2008, 07:07:32 PM
JG11 was assigned the Ki61 in the last Pacific FSO (we usually try to get the 84, but it was severely limited in this FSO). As a bunch of guys who fly Luftwaffe Iron exclusively Late War and most of the time in the AvA (it isn't always available), we kicked arse- had the best kill record for us yet (against Hellcats and FM2s) The Ki61 is NICE. I'll be asking for it the next time were in a Pacific FSO :aok
The C.202 is a 'hangar queen' if there ever was one, but it's a very fun aircraft to fly and can give LW planes a handful if the pilots aren't on their toes.
The 109F is one of the best of the 109s-a 1941 aircraft- and the G6 is one of the worst, but it's still my favorite.
Planes that are considered 'hangar queens' tend to be my favorites. Just because it's not an uber '44/'45 plane doesn't mean it doesn't have a place in Aces High.
In fact, at this point- in my opinion of course- if they are an uber '44/'45 plane, they shouldn't have a place on HTC's future additions list- not for a long while.

MY point is NO plane is a hangar queen if it's used.   Some seem to think to flaunt elitism because they lounge around in Late Rides and think they're actually "worth something".    I'd rather all folks used "crap planes and fight", then "use Late War rides and be timid". 

<<S>> Bubi, you're definitely mature for your age.    If the Ki-61 becomes available in either an FSO or SEA event, let me know and I'll participate.   I guess I was pretty much snubbed deliberately for that FSO, which cracks me up.   

Title: Re: Should we have more of a selection for plane models?
Post by: Spikes on August 24, 2008, 07:08:03 PM
I'd say Russia and the US were the two biggest players, then Germany and the UK close to parity, then Japan and following distantly, Italy and France.
I was saying it as an example. We need more planes from the less-involved countries to even out the plane set.
Title: Re: Should we have more of a selection for plane models?
Post by: Masherbrum on August 24, 2008, 07:09:53 PM
I was saying it as an example. We need more planes from the less-involved countries to even out the plane set.

Amen.   Enough redundancy, it's time to interject some fresh planes.   
Title: Re: Should we have more of a selection for plane models?
Post by: Motherland on August 24, 2008, 07:17:45 PM
I was saying it as an example. We need more planes from the less-involved countries to even out the plane set.
Well, there's an exception to this rule- with the current VVS planeset, you'd think the USSR watched from the sidelines and cheered on it's Allies, instead of taking the highest losses of any of them fighting in the most intense theater in some of the harshest conditions of the war.
MY point is NO plane is a hangar queen if it's used.   Some seem to think to flaunt elitism because they lounge around in Late Rides and think they're actually "worth something".    I'd rather all folks used "crap planes and fight", then "use Late War rides and be timid". 
Yup
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<<S>> Bubi, you're definitely mature for your age.    If the Ki-61 becomes available in either an FSO or SEA event, let me know and I'll participate.   I guess I was pretty much snubbed deliberately for that FSO, which cracks me up.   
Thanks <S> There probably  won't be another Pacific FSO for a little while, but we'll probably have room for you when there is one if you'd like to come.
Title: Re: Should we have more of a selection for plane models?
Post by: 1Boner on August 24, 2008, 07:20:19 PM
The KI-84IB would probably render the Niki obsolete.

Would really like to see this version of the plane.



Thanks for askin,

Boner
Title: Re: Should we have more of a selection for plane models?
Post by: Karnak on August 24, 2008, 07:20:35 PM
There really aren't very many planes left to be added that most people here won't whine about them being "hangar queens".  Based on that, I think those people need to put a cork in it and go play with all the late war toys that they already have.
Title: Re: Should we have more of a selection for plane models?
Post by: Anaxogoras on August 24, 2008, 07:23:59 PM
If the Ki-61 becomes available in either an FSO or SEA event, let me know and I'll participate.   I guess I was pretty much snubbed deliberately for that FSO, which cracks me up.   

Hi karaya.  Is your squad signed up for FSO?  I haven't seen your squad in any of the FSO event logs from recent times.  I really doubt that you were deliberately snubbed.  This is the link with instructions for signing up: http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,231350.0.html (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,231350.0.html).  After flying the Ki-61 as bubi's wingman, I've concluded that you only love the aircraft for its awesome skins. :aok

err this is the link that actually has the link:http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,147070.0.html (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,147070.0.html)
Title: Re: Should we have more of a selection for plane models?
Post by: Motherland on August 24, 2008, 07:28:04 PM
After flying the Ki-61 as bubi's wingman, I've concluded that you only love the aircraft for its awesome skins. :aok
lol... the second two frames weren't spectacular, but the you missed the first... it was awesome... this had a lot to do with Fencer's leadership and luck as well, but I'll tell you we would not have been able to do that in the Ki84. :D
Title: Re: Should we have more of a selection for plane models?
Post by: Anaxogoras on August 24, 2008, 07:32:28 PM
I apologize ahead of time, because I understand that this has most likely been talked about before.  However, I think more models of the same plane would be a nice addition to the game.  Most of the planes in the game have one or only two variants of the same plane.  Take the A-20G for instance, or even the 4 engine American bombers... they had many other variants through the war years just as we have seen with the 109 and 190 family.  HTC has already added on to the P38s and B25s, I think that a more diverse plane set would be appealing to most everyone.

Discuss.

And in response to the OP, I'm still waiting for the 109E-7, 109G-10 and a 109G-6/AS.  When HTC?  When? :pray
Title: Re: Should we have more of a selection for plane models?
Post by: Motherland on August 24, 2008, 07:35:34 PM
Either or would be nice, but a G6/AS and a G10 would be kind of redundant...
Title: Re: Should we have more of a selection for plane models?
Post by: Anaxogoras on August 24, 2008, 07:43:28 PM
Either or would be nice, but a G6/AS and a G10 would be kind of redundant...

Not with their different introduction times and the scenarios we run.
Title: Re: Should we have more of a selection for plane models?
Post by: E25280 on August 24, 2008, 08:00:51 PM
There really aren't very many planes left to be added that most people here won't whine about them being "hangar queens".  Based on that, I think those people need to put a cork in it and go play with all the late war toys that they already have.
Seconded.
Title: Re: Should we have more of a selection for plane models?
Post by: 1pLUs44 on August 24, 2008, 08:06:01 PM
It'd fly circles around your 205 all day long too.   Wait, I bet we need another 109?   Wait, I know, we need another Pee47?    Wait, hold on, we need another 190?   I pretty fly the Ki-61 exclusively.   It's a hangar queen to you AND the SEA events.   They ignored the historical basis of Rangoon and implemented the A6M5 instead of using the Ki-61 which, was involved in the WWII event.   The SEA group lost a possible player in me for blatantly snubbing the Ki-61. 

So why punish folks like me who would fly it exclusively for the challenge of still shooting down "hot shot" easy kill La7's, Niki's, Spixteen who get cocky and end up in the tower?   

No thank you.   IAR 81c, Mig3, Brewster, Do-217 and the PBY.   That's it.   


Ki-61 is pretty fun, I wish it would get upadated though :/

Mig 3, from what I read is a piece of junk.
From Pokryshkins' Memoirs, he had to fight in one with only 2 .50 cal machineguns or 2 .30 cal machine  guns, dont recall to correctly. Pokryshkin hated the plane and was 100 times happier after getting rid of it and getting a P-39.

PBY would be nice, Brewster from what I read would be fine to add. Just so hard to find data for. Same with the IAR 81c. I'm all for all of those on there except the Mig 3.

Those are just my opinions though. I'm all for a new plane.
Title: Re: Should we have more of a selection for plane models?
Post by: Motherland on August 24, 2008, 08:17:22 PM
Where can I find his memoirs? I've been wanting to read something on him.
Title: Re: Should we have more of a selection for plane models?
Post by: Masherbrum on August 24, 2008, 08:39:54 PM
Hi karaya.  Is your squad signed up for FSO?  I haven't seen your squad in any of the FSO event logs from recent times.  I really doubt that you were deliberately snubbed.  This is the link with instructions for signing up: http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,231350.0.html (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,231350.0.html).  After flying the Ki-61 as bubi's wingman, I've concluded that you only love the aircraft for its awesome skins. :aok

err this is the link that actually has the link:http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,147070.0.html (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,147070.0.html)

I beg to defer.   I'm pretty well known as one who "Flies the 61".

The plane is just a perfect mix of everything for me.   The plane needs the "refreshing" treatment that the Hellkitty and La7 has gotten.