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General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: SuBWaYCH on September 01, 2008, 12:55:04 PM
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I'll petition for them yet again!
Yak-1
Yak-3
Yak-7
LaGG-3
Tu-2
Pe-2
Pe-8
I-15
I-16
Mig-1
Mig-3
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Yak 3, Pe2, Tu2.
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Bring in the Yak's! :aok
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all the medium/light and/or attack planes.
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You always leave out the Yak-9D. :furious
A regular La-5 would be cool, too.
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You always leave out the Yak-9D. :furious
A regular La-5 would be cool, too.
Ok but you'll have to simulate how the pilot is getting cooked in the cockpit. :D
I'm all for VVS aircraft with the Yak 3 Pe-2 Tu-2 on the top of the list :aok
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How about the Yak9-UT(?) with 2x20mm and 1x37mm? :devil
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I'll petition for them yet again!
Yak-1
Yak-3
Yak-7
LaGG-3
Tu-2
Pe-2
Pe-8
I-15
I-16
Mig-1
Mig-3
:aok
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How about Italian fighters and bombers first? ;)
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mig 3 couldn't kill a German bomber or a 109 see no need for it
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mig 3 couldn't kill a German bomber or a 109 see no need for it
It could, Pokryshkin flew it before getting the P-39. He got some 14 kills in it. (all using 2 .303s or 2 12.7mm machine guns)
And for the Yak 3, I dont see anything specail about it. I know this isn't AHII, but in WarBirds, it's a piece of junk that stalls worse than the P-39 IMO. The bombers are a definate yes though.
~1pLUs44 40th FS
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How about the Yak9-UT(?) with 2x20mm and 1x37mm? :devil
sounds good to me
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I WANT EM, ALL :lol
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How about the Yak9-UT(?) with 2x20mm and 1x37mm? :devil
:O
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Yak 3, Pe2, Tu2.
indeed.
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It could, Pokryshkin flew it before getting the P-39. He got some 14 kills in it. (all using 2 .303s or 2 12.7mm machine guns)
And for the Yak 3, I dont see anything specail about it. I know this isn't AHII, but in WarBirds, it's a piece of junk that stalls worse than the P-39 IMO. The bombers are a definate yes though.
~1pLUs44 40th FS
Yak-3 is crucial to the VVS plane set. It fills a big gap from early 1944 to I think close to the end of the war.
You have to remember the Yak-3 was "out of order"
It went:
Yak-1 (1940)
Yak-7 (1941)
Yak-9 (1943)
Yak-3 (1944)
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I'll petition for them yet again!
Yak-1
Yak-3
Yak-7
LaGG-3
Tu-2
Pe-2
Pe-8
I-15
I-16
Mig-1
Mig-3
I quote the whole list! above all Rata, Yak3 and Pe2
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Yak-3 is crucial to the VVS plane set. It fills a big gap from early 1944 to I think close to the end of the war.
You have to remember the Yak-3 was "out of order"
It went:
Yak-1 (1940)
Yak-7 (1941)
Yak-9 (1943)
Yak-3 (1944)
I know that. :) Just telling you that you're gonna have a heck of a lot of trouble learning that thing.
I've flown it in WB and FA3, and it stalls very very quickly.
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I know that. :) Just telling you that you're gonna have a heck of a lot of trouble learning that thing.
I've flown it in WB and FA3, and it stalls very very quickly.
yes, but Як-3 still, with his weight/power (5,864 lb/1,850 hp) the powerfull fighter of the late war and one of the faster prop plane of the history (447 mph at 5,750 m (18,860 ft))!!
Another thing it make this plane deadly is his nose B-20 cannon (1944) instead of the actual ShVAK's and the 1945 version NS-23 cannon with 23 mm of 200g wight shells. 4,848 aircraft equiped with NS-23 were produced!
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Just a question. Did it fly 447 IAS (Indicated Air-Speed) at 18,000? Or did it fly a GS (Ground-Speed) of 447 M.P.H. at 18,000?
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Just a question. Did it fly 447 IAS (Indicated Air-Speed) at 18,000? Or did it fly a GS (Ground-Speed) of 447 M.P.H. at 18,000?
Have to search the Mikhailovich Stefanovskiy book (test pilot of Alexander Yakovlev)
(wich should be far hide in my wild aviation library) ;)
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I'll petition for them yet again!
Yak-1
Yak-3
Yak-7
LaGG-3
Tu-2
Pe-2
Pe-8
I-15
I-16
Mig-1
Mig-3
Yes, with a focus on the Yak-3, Lagg-3 & PE-2.
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Yes, with a focus on the Yak-3, Lagg-3 & PE-2.
Pe-8 would be sweet though :cool:
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Pe-8 would be sweet though :cool:
HE-111 and Pe-8 would be a nice touch.
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yak-1/42: sure, be nice to have rockets
yak-7: i'll bet you want the a/b &/or -37 model (all those 20mm & the 37mm with Rs82s); which is fine IF it is Perked
yak-3/3p: again, gotta be a perked ride
now as to the MiG-1 & 3 as quoted in by someone else:
MiG-1: not enough produced, about 100, so forget it.
MiG-3: ubs/shkas is underwhelming firepower, so it would need the '42 model with twin shvks, but only 52 of those were made. so the MiG-3 would need be, as are many, a conglomerate aircraft of the '41 & '42 to be seen in AH. it probably would be perked, but even less than a c-hog or spt14.
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yak-3/3p: again, gotta be a perked ride
You're kidding right?
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Like I said, the Yak 3 and Mig 3 arent that great. Go download WarBirds3, and fly the Yak 3 around, you'll stall so quick, you'll find a 190 easier to fly in a turn fight.
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You're kidding right?
Hardly. check the Yak-9 vs. the Yak-3 vs. La-7 (which should be a perk ride; but that is another thread)
Yak-9
Maximum speed: 367 mph at altitude (591 km/h)
Range: 845 miles (1,360 km)
Service ceiling 30,000 ft (9,100 m)
Rate of climb: 2,690 ft/min (13.7 m/s)
Wing loading: 37 lb/ft² (181 kg/m²)
Power/mass: 0.17 hp/lb (0.28 kW/kg)
Yak-3
Maximum speed: 646 km/h (401 mph)
Range: 650 km (405 miles)
Service ceiling 10,700 m (35,000 ft)
Rate of climb: 18.5 m/s (3,645 ft/min)
Wing loading: 181 kg/m² (36.7 lb/ft²)
Power/mass: 0.36 kW/kg (0.22 hp/lb)
La-7
Maximum speed: 680 km/h (425 mph)
Range: 635 km (394 miles)
Service ceiling 9,500 m (31,160 ft)
Rate of climb: 18.3 m/s (3,608 ft/min)
Wing loading: 38 lb/ft² (187 kg/m²)
Power/mass: 0.42 kW/kg (0.25 hp/lb)
So yes to perking Yak-3: tighter turning, longer ranged, equal climbing, slightly slower than the La-7 hoped-for-in-many-a-VvsDweebs-dreams. :D
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Like I said, the Yak 3 and Mig 3 arent that great. Go download WarBirds3, and fly the Yak 3 around, you'll stall so quick, you'll find a 190 easier to fly in a turn fight.
Three things:
1) :furious This IS NOT WarBirds
2) :furious This IS NOT FA
3) :D This IS Aces High 2 & the flight models are & will be different. :O
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No, they'll be different than FA3, but probably not WB. Planes fly the same to me in both of them. WB isn't as great (graphics wise and what not), but I can promise you that if you fly the Yak 3 on there with realistic flight, you'll think twice about it.
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Yak3 = UBER little stunt plane. Very dangerous in a A2A role.
Tu2 = Very capable medium bomber, speed, cannon, good bomb loadout and the first Soviet bomber I would love to see in AH.
I16 = Must have for early war arena and scenarios.
Just these three will be enough to give the Russians a nice little set.
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Three things:
1) :furious This IS NOT WarBirds
2) :furious This IS NOT FA
3) :D This IS Aces High 2 & the flight models are & will be different. :O
You got that wrong, it should have been:
3) :D This IS Aces High 2 & the flight models are & will be different and MUCH cooler. :O
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yal yak yak yak yak yak yak yakit yak
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Hardly. check the Yak-9 vs. the Yak-3 vs. La-7 (which should be a perk ride; but that is another thread)
Yak-9
Maximum speed: 367 mph at altitude (591 km/h)
Range: 845 miles (1,360 km)
Service ceiling 30,000 ft (9,100 m)
Rate of climb: 2,690 ft/min (13.7 m/s)
Wing loading: 37 lb/ft² (181 kg/m²)
Power/mass: 0.17 hp/lb (0.28 kW/kg)
Saying "Yak-9" is kinda like saying "Spitfire" or "Bf109" and not specifying the specific version. Like saying the Spitfire has a top speed of 355mph and is therefor completely inferior to the Bf109K-4 without noting that you are talking about the Spitfire Mk I and not the Spitfire Mk XIV.
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Yes to them all! :aok
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Hardly. check the Yak-9 vs. the Yak-3 vs. La-7 (which should be a perk ride; but that is another thread)
Yak-9
Maximum speed: 367 mph at altitude (591 km/h)
Range: 845 miles (1,360 km)
Service ceiling 30,000 ft (9,100 m)
Rate of climb: 2,690 ft/min (13.7 m/s)
Wing loading: 37 lb/ft² (181 kg/m²)
Power/mass: 0.17 hp/lb (0.28 kW/kg)
Yak-3
Maximum speed: 646 km/h (401 mph)
Range: 650 km (405 miles)
Service ceiling 10,700 m (35,000 ft)
Rate of climb: 18.5 m/s (3,645 ft/min)
Wing loading: 181 kg/m² (36.7 lb/ft²)
Power/mass: 0.36 kW/kg (0.22 hp/lb)
La-7
Maximum speed: 680 km/h (425 mph)
Range: 635 km (394 miles)
Service ceiling 9,500 m (31,160 ft)
Rate of climb: 18.3 m/s (3,608 ft/min)
Wing loading: 38 lb/ft² (187 kg/m²)
Power/mass: 0.42 kW/kg (0.25 hp/lb)
So yes to perking Yak-3: tighter turning, longer ranged, equal climbing, slightly slower than the La-7 hoped-for-in-many-a-VvsDweebs-dreams. :D
the Yak-9 you have quoted is the Yak-9T, which is a 1943 aircraft. The Yak-9U (early variations in mid 1944, and then the main model from late 1944 till end of war) got about 415-420 at its best altitude (16k).
Yak-3 saw its first combat in late 1943 I think, and saw service in different variations till the end of the war.
so perking the Yak-3 is pointless.
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Hardly. check the Yak-9 vs. the Yak-3 vs. La-7 (which should be a perk ride; but that is another thread)
Yak-3
Maximum speed: 646 km/h (401 mph)
Range: 650 km (405 miles)
Service ceiling 10,700 m (35,000 ft)
Rate of climb: 18.5 m/s (3,645 ft/min)
Wing loading: 181 kg/m² (36.7 lb/ft²)
Power/mass: 0.36 kW/kg (0.22 hp/lb)
where you got those informations? wich yak-3 variant? (there are 8 yak 3 models) and the yak3 (final model with NS-23) could fly to 447 mp/h.
Secondary, I don't understand why the yak3 should be perked, it's not an "all players" plane, it won't give you any advantage against La7, Spit16 or 190D if you don't hadle it well...and it has a single 20mm cannon (23mm for the NS-3)
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If I had meant a Yak-9"x", I would have said a Yak-9"x". If I say Yak-9 in mean Yak-9, not "P", not "U", not "DD"; HOWEVERI did make a mistake in the figures for the Yak-9 listed, I supplied data for a Yak-9P, 1946 variant, a plane that we would not even have in AH; my apology.
As far a sources go:
1) www.wio.ru is a good one to source
2) www.militaryfactory.com everyone should know this one
3) Stepanets, A.P. "Yak Fighters in WWII", isbn#5217011920: The best source on Yakovlev anyone could ask to own
As far as perking the 3, if we ever get it, it is still a "Must" in my book. I am hard pressed to think of a more dangerous low-altitude (where we mostly fight) 1v1 fighter that saw service in WWII. Nimble handling, light-weight (2700kg-3000kg), FAST acceleartion, good pilot visabilty, double-ish the range of a La-7, and enough cannon that a average pilot can bag 2-3kills, plus these suckers are tough to kill.
In the end, we won't get the 3 from AH before 2010 anyhow (if ever), so what is the point anyway? :(