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Title: Liberal Attacks on Palin for Being a Woman and Mother?
Post by: Warspawn on September 03, 2008, 01:00:33 PM
What's the deal here?  Also, her stance on teaching creation theory alongside evolution...why be so critical about that?  Would they attack a man with 5 kids the same way?


JAMES CARVILLE: "I just would make the point, is my family — I had five sisters. They're all pro-life to the core. And they all would act in exactly the same way. That's not the question. The question is, why would she be running for vice president? I mean this woman is almost absent qualifications for the job. I mean this is — she is — I'm willing to concede to the whole world that she's a very committed pro-life person, that she's an honorable person, that she's a good mother. But that's not the issue before the American people right now." (CNN's "Larry King Live," 9/1/08)

"Liberal radio host Ed Schultz was telling listeners Monday that Palin was an 'empty pantsuit' who had set off a 'bimbo alert.'" (Howard Kurtz, "A Blogger, A Baby, A Cry Of Concern," The Washington Post, 9/2/08)

CARVILLE: "Again, when they find out, when they find out — I man, when people find out that Sarah Palin supported Pat Buchanan, that she supports teaching creationism, they're not — she's not a person that's going to be very attractive to Democrats." (CNN's "Anderson Cooper 360 Degrees," 8/29/08)

"Two recent headlines underneath the talking heads at MSNBC: 'SOME WORKING MOTHERS WORRY THAT PALIN IS TAKING ON TOO MUCH.' Moments later, it changed to, 'SOME VOTERS CONCERNED IF PALIN, A MOTHER OF FIVE HAS TIME TO BE VP.' So good of them to express the concern in headline form." ("MSNBC Worries About Sarah Palin's Time Management," National Review's "Campaign Spot" Blog, Posted 9/2/08) 

• CNN's John Roberts Questioned Whether Governor Palin Would Be Able To Care For A Child With Down Syndrome As Vice President.

CNN's JOHN ROBERTS: "There's also this issue that on April 18, she gave birth to a baby with Down syndrome. The baby is just slightly more than 4 months old now. Children with Down Syndrome require an awful lot of attention. The role of vice president, it seems to me, would take up an awful lot of her time, and it raises the issue of, how much time will she have to dedicate to her newborn child?" BASH: "That's a very good question, and I guess my guess is that perhaps the line inside the McCain campaign would be, if it were a man being picked who also had a baby 4 months ago with Down syndrome, would you ask the same question? And that might be another way to kind of, you know, close the gender gap in trying to make the point that, yes, she not only has unfortunately a baby with Down syndrome, but she has five children, the oldest of whom is apparently in the Army and is apparently going to head off to Iraq in the fall." (CNN's "Newsroom," 8/29/08)
 


What a smear campaign...not only that, they're saying she's a freakin' Nazi sypathizer because she supported Buchanon?  How low will they go, how many staws will they grasp at?  I'm hearing now that Us Weekly is reporting as news, a blog about her?
Title: Re: Liberal Attacks on Palin for Being a Woman and Mother?
Post by: Donzo on September 03, 2008, 01:15:43 PM
This woman scares them so they dig for whatever they can find and make mountains out of mole hills.

Pathetic, but a the same time predictable and welcome because they are showing what they are really made of.
Title: Re: Liberal Attacks on Palin for Being a Woman and Mother?
Post by: Airscrew on September 03, 2008, 01:23:28 PM
Hey,  did you hear she also got a citation once for fishing with out a licence.... OMG, how can she run for vice president with a record like that ....

I love it, the more the media crys and moans and wails the more I like her,  I can see the Liberal press helping Obama lose, keep running your yaps democrates
Title: Re: Liberal Attacks on Palin for Being a Woman and Mother?
Post by: RedTop on September 03, 2008, 01:41:30 PM
This is just the beginning.....if you like rolloer coasters..this will be a politcal one to beat all. Her SSN is released by the liberal nuts....her daughter is bashed...she is bashed...her husband is bashed....lets bring the 4 month old into it....oh and why not make a big deal of the boyfriend of her daughter being at the convention as well.

I have been watching ALL the news today...MSNBC , CNN , Headline News , and FOX. I wanted to hear how the cable news networks were covering all this and hearing things they had to say. After watching for the last few hours and listening while I did some work around the house I must say it's OBVIOUS who certain networks (CNN  Headline  MSNBC) want in the white house.

Fox News....tho a slant to the right is FAR MORE balanced than these others....Even Ed Rendel says so...and he is BIG TIME Obama suporter.

Lib Media....makes me sick

I watched em all after the speeches last night.....

Olberman...Spittle Chris Matthews....LOL...they absolutloey make me sick.
Title: Re: Liberal Attacks on Palin for Being a Woman and Mother?
Post by: Fury on September 03, 2008, 01:55:25 PM
I quit watching CNN on Sept 1st.  They were getting to be as bad as the National Enquirer with their reporting (just mho).

Watching some of Ron Paul and some of the Repub convention on CSPAN and -2 was so much nicer than having to listen to talking heads all the time.
Title: Re: Liberal Attacks on Palin for Being a Woman and Mother?
Post by: texasmom on September 03, 2008, 01:58:53 PM
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Title: Re: Liberal Attacks on Palin for Being a Woman and Mother?
Post by: SlapShot on September 03, 2008, 02:02:02 PM
CNN is huge behind Obama ... it became quite evident to me last night switching between CNN and Fox News watching the "after" convention dialogs.

CNN is so far slanted toward the Obama camp that it is almost sickening to watch ... which I won't anymore.
Title: Re: Liberal Attacks on Palin for Being a Woman and Mother?
Post by: Airscrew on September 03, 2008, 02:04:23 PM
I havent watched CNN since the Gulf War...
Title: Re: Liberal Attacks on Palin for Being a Woman and Mother?
Post by: Charon on September 03, 2008, 02:04:45 PM
People "overlook" that one of her "5 kids" is in Iraq, and one is 17 and one is 12 and that she has a husband who will likely have 24/7 to be Mr.Mom if Palin goes to Washington. It is funny to see the far left, especially the media droids at CNN and MSNBC moving to the barefoot and pregnant track where women's rights are concerned. The same with NOW that apparently, like ACLU on the 2nd, has issues with exactly which Women's are appropriate to be feminists.

I fully appreciate the many hypocrisies of the right, it's just fun to finally see the hypocrisies of the left on such clear display  :aok

Charon
Title: Re: Liberal Attacks on Palin for Being a Woman and Mother?
Post by: SpazMan on September 03, 2008, 02:06:38 PM
They're doing it cause she's a strong female unlike Hilliary. She won't change her opinion because the polls or media bashes her to.

For example Hilliary was backing Spitzer (former Gov. of NY) on giving illegal aliens drivers licences until the people were outraged and then she did an about face. I doubt if Palin would do that.

Besides the media should start bashing Obama's mother; she was 18 when she had him.
Title: Re: Liberal Attacks on Palin for Being a Woman and Mother?
Post by: Ripsnort on September 03, 2008, 02:07:30 PM
I havent watched CNN since the Gulf War...

Ditto. I don't watch Fox anymore either.  I read various articles and decide for myself who is pulling my chain and who is not.

I watch local news, that's about it.

Back to the original topic:
If this were chess, McCain has Obama in Check.
Title: Re: Liberal Attacks on Palin for Being a Woman and Mother?
Post by: SpazMan on September 03, 2008, 02:10:14 PM
The media will back whichever candidate pays them the most. Right now its the Democrates.
Title: Re: Liberal Attacks on Palin for Being a Woman and Mother?
Post by: Mickey1992 on September 03, 2008, 02:31:45 PM
I used to watch CNN because it seemed to be less biased than MSNBC but lately they are just as bad.  I think I lost all respect for Wolf Blitzer when he tried to argue with Bill Bennett that Palin's daughter's pregnancy was a valid talking point because of the "nation's concern for teenage pregnancy".  When before 08/31 did any American or any poll indicate that teenage pregnancy was a major concern of the US voter?  Even Larry King devoted a half hour to the subject the other night.  Pathetic.

Story #3 on cnn.com right now is "High-profile teen pregnancies in spotlight".  Really?  The media PUTS it in the spotlight because it is good for ratings.  Nothing more.
Title: Re: Liberal Attacks on Palin for Being a Woman and Mother?
Post by: DYNAMITE on September 03, 2008, 02:32:14 PM
I'm a liberal and I could give a rats pitoot about the fact that she's a woman... and frankly, I think most libs feel that way too.

It's her policies that concern us.  I don't think public school is the place to teach creationism.  I think there is already an institution that teaches that, and it's call Church *and possibly family*

I disagree with her prolife/anti-choice stance. (not going to get into it here)

I disagree with her on global warming. *An issue she is in disagreement with her running-mate btw

I would like to know more about the inquiry regarding the firing of her former brother-in-law.

She is the queen of ear-marks, getting more than 27 million in federal dollars for her small town.

I would also like to know what her affiliation to the Alaska Independent Party is.  *a group that seeks a vote on the secession of Alaska from the Union.

And people keep touting her executive experience... I just don't see it.  Any schmuck can be a mayor *see Ray Nagin* And she hasn't been Governor for very long.  Obama has managed a larger staff during this campaign for longer than she has been Governor.

There are plenty of reasons to question her ability to be VP... just as there are plenty of reasons to question McCain, Obama, and Biden.  Her femininity is not one of them. At least not for me.
Title: Re: Liberal Attacks on Palin for Being a Woman and Mother?
Post by: bongaroo on September 03, 2008, 02:40:44 PM
What's the deal here?  Also, her stance on teaching creation theory alongside evolution...why be so critical about that?  Would they attack a man with 5 kids the same way?

I can't speak for anyone being critical of her family; but I will speak on the "intelligent design" theory. 

It's not science.  Keep religion in the church and science in the schools.  If they are going to teach that crap as science they sure as hell better be teaching about the Flying Spagetthi Monster, since I've been touched by his noodly appendage I've felt the urge to insure theories of how he created the universe are taught in our public schools alongside alternative creationist theories.

http://www.venganza.org/about/ (http://www.venganza.org/about/)
Title: Re: Liberal Attacks on Palin for Being a Woman and Mother?
Post by: crockett on September 03, 2008, 02:41:06 PM
What's the deal here?  Also, her stance on teaching creation theory alongside evolution...why be so critical about that?  Would they attack a man with 5 kids the same way?

It's a big deal because it's the same as teaching the tooth fairy is responsible for leaving a dollar under your pillow in school. There is no scientific facts behind creationism, it's a religious belief that has no business in a public school system. On top of that it puts one small part of a specific religion ahead of all others.

Are you going to agree with having your kids sit through the teaching of the Koran? Scientology? Buddhism? What about the various American Indian religious beliefs? If they want to go over the "theory" of creationism is social studies as part a course then it's not that big of a deal assuming they give the other popular religions their fair time as well.  

However trying to teach it as scientific fact is ludicrous because it's nothing more than a part of a religious belief. In short if you want bible study for your kids then go to church because that's where it belongs.


As for the media in the feeding frenzy over Palin.. well that's exactly what is going to happen when he picks some unknown that for the most part no one has heard of. It's the media's job to then start digging if they found nothing wrong right away then it would have likely just been a frenzy over "who is the woman".

However every time you turn around there is more dirt under the rug, so that causes the frenzy to keep growing and looking deeper..Because McCain didn't properly vet her.. the media is now doing it for him.
Title: Re: Liberal Attacks on Palin for Being a Woman and Mother?
Post by: Fury on September 03, 2008, 02:46:16 PM
...I think I lost all respect for Wolf Blitzer when he tried to argue with Bill Bennett that Palin's daughter's pregnancy was a valid talking point because of the "nation's concern for teenage pregnancy"....

EXACTLY!  That exact incident, plus Campbell Bown afterwards, was my final straw.  I'm giving up on all cable 'news' networks.

I even went so far as to use those two incidents and sent an email to CNN stating I wasn't watching anymore.  I'm actually amazed that I was so p.o.'d right then that I actually put my thoughts into words and let them know.
Title: Re: Liberal Attacks on Palin for Being a Woman and Mother?
Post by: bongaroo on September 03, 2008, 02:48:15 PM
Fox News....tho a slant to the right is FAR MORE balanced than these others....Even Ed Rendel says so...and he is BIG TIME Obama suporter.

Lib Media....makes me sick

I watched em all after the speeches last night.....

Olberman...Spittle Chris Matthews....LOL...they absolutloey make me sick.

Conservative media...makes me sick

I watched (or heard) em all after the speeches (for the democrats convention) the other night...

O'rielly...drivel Rush Limbaugh....LOL (maybe he got in the pain killer cabinet again?)...Most of Fox news...BARF....they absolutley make me sick.

<see what I've done here?>

If your going to watch/listen to known political propoganda programs understand that the right is all over it too.
Title: Re: Liberal Attacks on Palin for Being a Woman and Mother?
Post by: crockett on September 03, 2008, 02:49:00 PM
This woman scares them so they dig for whatever they can find and make mountains out of mole hills.

Pathetic, but a the same time predictable and welcome because they are showing what they are really made of.

Like you right wingers haven't been attacking Obama non stop.. get real the only scary thing is the fact that I didn't think it was possible to find a pair worse that Bush/Cheney. With McCain/Palin I think the Republicans managed to find a pair that could screw this country up even more than the last. Talk about scary, yea that's scary.
Title: Re: Liberal Attacks on Palin for Being a Woman and Mother?
Post by: myelo on September 03, 2008, 02:51:55 PM
What do we have, 6, 7 threads about Palin? If she's such a great pick you have to wonder why all the effort defending her.


Title: Re: Liberal Attacks on Palin for Being a Woman and Mother?
Post by: bongaroo on September 03, 2008, 02:53:54 PM
Back to the original topic:
If this were chess, McCain has Obama in Check.

If you count putting his queen in the middle of the board almost undefended to check the King, than yes, McCain has Obama in check.

Ugh, please don't keep this Chess analogy going; I'm having a hard time supressing my inner nerd.
Title: Re: Liberal Attacks on Palin for Being a Woman and Mother?
Post by: Ripsnort on September 03, 2008, 03:02:36 PM
I used to watch CNN because it seemed to be less biased than MSNBC but lately they are just as bad.  I think I lost all respect for Wolf Blitzer when he tried to argue with Bill Bennett that Palin's daughter's pregnancy was a valid talking point because of the "nation's concern for teenage pregnancy".  When before 08/31 did any American or any poll indicate that teenage pregnancy was a major concern of the US voter?  Even Larry King devoted a half hour to the subject the other night.  Pathetic.

Story #3 on cnn.com right now is "High-profile teen pregnancies in spotlight".  Really?  The media PUTS it in the spotlight because it is good for ratings.  Nothing more.
This doesn't surprise me. You've always been a level-headed individual the years I've known you on the BBS. It is apparent that more and more folks, regardless of political affiliation, are getting turned off by bias media (regardless of political lean).
Title: Re: Liberal Attacks on Palin for Being a Woman and Mother?
Post by: Ripsnort on September 03, 2008, 03:04:28 PM
What do we have, 6, 7 threads about Palin? If she's such a great pick you have to wonder why all the effort defending her.



I see more threads over the internet attacking her, than those praising her. One has to wonder, why all the effort of attacking her? Must be a credible threat me thinks. :)
Title: Re: Liberal Attacks on Palin for Being a Woman and Mother?
Post by: Ripsnort on September 03, 2008, 03:06:52 PM
If you count putting his queen in the middle of the board almost undefended to check the King, than yes, McCain has Obama in check.

Ugh, please don't keep this Chess analogy going; I'm having a hard time supressing my inner nerd.

Well, lets face it then. The choices from these two parties in this years election still suck, even after each respective VP selection.

*Sigh*.
Title: Re: Liberal Attacks on Palin for Being a Woman and Mother?
Post by: lazs2 on September 03, 2008, 03:11:50 PM
myelo.. this seems odd to me..  you are saying that there are 6,7 threads about Palin and that it somehow means we have to defend her.

We are happy as can be with her.. it seems just the reverse to us.. it seems that the metrosexual socialists are so scared that they have to attack her with some of the silliest stuff I have ever seen.

I think that she is the new superstar.. that she just eliminated osamabama on "america sings" or some such crap... like she was more glitzy and everyone just forgot about the messiah.

I think the worship of the messiah has run it's course.. he is boring now.. we are moving on to the one in the light... too bad.... soooo sad....

You want to build a cult of personality but you get upset when the other party trumps you?

Talk about being hoisted on your own petard...

and by a woman no less!

lazs
Title: Re: Liberal Attacks on Palin for Being a Woman and Mother?
Post by: bongaroo on September 03, 2008, 03:13:53 PM
agreed rip!

Why can't a fiscally conservative and socially liberal party get a chance?  I hate having to choose between fiscally responsible (+) and socially conservative (-) or bigger govt (-) and social liberalism (+)!
Title: Re: Liberal Attacks on Palin for Being a Woman and Mother?
Post by: bongaroo on September 03, 2008, 03:16:03 PM
myelo.. this seems odd to me..  you are saying that there are 6,7 threads about Palin and that it somehow means we have to defend her.

We are happy as can be with her.. it seems just the reverse to us.. it seems that the metrosexual socialists are so scared that they have to attack her with some of the silliest stuff I have ever seen.

I think that she is the new superstar.. that she just eliminated osamabama on "america sings" or some such crap... like she was more glitzy and everyone just forgot about the messiah.

I think the worship of the messiah has run it's course.. he is boring now.. we are moving on to the one in the light... too bad.... soooo sad....

You want to build a cult of personality but you get upset when the other party trumps you?

Talk about being hoisted on your own petard...

and by a woman no less!

lazs

All the "smears" your seeing about her only remind me of all the ones perpetuated about Obama on this board.

You've already picked your horse for the race but don't mind spending all your time bad mouthing other's choices. 
Title: Re: Liberal Attacks on Palin for Being a Woman and Mother?
Post by: RedTop on September 03, 2008, 03:20:27 PM
Like you right wingers haven't been attacking Obama non stop.. get real the only scary thing is the fact that I didn't think it was possible to find a pair worse that Bush/Cheney. With McCain/Palin I think the Republicans managed to find a pair that could screw this country up even more than the last. Talk about scary, yea that's scary.

Rightwingers?  Im far from a right winger...tell ya that.

BTW...Olberman needs ya back at his desk...and Blitzer wants his rub down when you get done with Olberman. David Gregeory needs his feet rubeed and Campbell Brown was wondwering what you had for her later as well. Maddow just wants to box with you.
Title: Re: Liberal Attacks on Palin for Being a Woman and Mother?
Post by: myelo on September 03, 2008, 04:18:42 PM
One has to wonder, why all the effort of attacking her? Must be a credible threat me thinks. :)

I was just wondering why all the effort of defending her? Must be a credible problem that needs defending me thinks.
Title: Re: Liberal Attacks on Palin for Being a Woman and Mother?
Post by: 1pLUs44 on September 03, 2008, 04:31:03 PM
CNN is huge behind Obama ... it became quite evident to me last night switching between CNN and Fox News watching the "after" convention dialogs.

CNN is so far slanted toward the Obama camp that it is almost sickening to watch ... which I won't anymore.

Sorry, CNN transferred from Clinton News Network to ONN, Obama News Network. :P
Title: Re: Liberal Attacks on Palin for Being a Woman and Mother?
Post by: Hangtime on September 03, 2008, 04:37:43 PM
I was just wondering why all the effort of defending her? Must be a credible problem that needs defending me thinks.

I suspect she'd do all right defending herself. Guess we'll find out tonight when she speaks... and that debate between her and Unca Joe will likely be the most watched debate in history.

hehehehehe, politics just got watchable. laz may be on to something. ;)
Title: Re: Liberal Attacks on Palin for Being a Woman and Mother?
Post by: Gunthr on September 03, 2008, 04:43:37 PM
It does seem that Palin has knocked Obama out of the news Myelo, not just people here talking about her.

For accuracy's sake, I think Palin's position is that schools should teach curriculums that the PARENTS want them to teach... in this case, creationism alongside evolution.

I happen to agree that PARENTS should be able to customize curriculums for what the local majority feel is important.  We shouldn't allow a liberal unionized centralized partisan federal institution to deny feedback and decision making on curriculums by parents.
Title: Re: Liberal Attacks on Palin for Being a Woman and Mother?
Post by: Hangtime on September 03, 2008, 04:48:44 PM
It does seem that Palin has knocked Obama out of the news Myelo, not just people here talking about her.

For accuracy's sake, I think Palin's position is that schools should teach curriculums that the PARENTS want them to teach... in this case, creationism alongside evolution.

I happen to agree that PARENTS should be able to customize curriculums for what the local majority feel is important.  We shouldn't allow a liberal unionized centralized partisan federal institution to deny feedback and decision making on curriculums by parents.

Yup. Those schools in Mormon Country should be funded by the federal and state tax funds and the syllabus determined by the local mullas.

 :lol

Title: Re: Liberal Attacks on Palin for Being a Woman and Mother?
Post by: SlapShot on September 03, 2008, 05:36:37 PM
I was just wondering why all the effort of defending her? Must be a credible problem that needs defending me thinks.

The better question is why all the low level scumbag tactics to discredit her ... me thinks some are running scared ... very scared ... :noid
Title: Re: Liberal Attacks on Palin for Being a Woman and Mother?
Post by: Donzo on September 03, 2008, 05:40:41 PM
The better question is why all the low level scumbag tactics to discredit her ... me thinks some are running scared ... very scared ... :noid

Yep  :aok
Title: Re: Liberal Attacks on Palin for Being a Woman and Mother?
Post by: 68Wooley on September 03, 2008, 06:06:13 PM
Jeez - when is this election over again?
Title: Re: Liberal Attacks on Palin for Being a Woman and Mother?
Post by: DYNAMITE on September 03, 2008, 07:00:23 PM
Jeez - when is this election over again?

not soon enough :salute
Title: Re: Liberal Attacks on Palin for Being a Woman and Mother?
Post by: Hangtime on September 03, 2008, 07:09:10 PM
... and then there's the do-overs, recounts and the supreme court decision.

Take a seat, it's gonna be awhile.

Title: Re: Liberal Attacks on Palin for Being a Woman and Mother?
Post by: Elfie on September 03, 2008, 07:11:27 PM
... and then there's the do-overs, recounts and the supreme court decision.

Take a seat, it's gonna be awhile.



Good grief I hope we don't have to go through that garbage again this time around.
Title: Re: Liberal Attacks on Palin for Being a Woman and Mother?
Post by: myelo on September 03, 2008, 07:19:23 PM
The better question is why all the low level scumbag tactics to discredit her ... me thinks some are running scared ... very scared ... :noid

Maybe you should ask these guys:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_o8XBJfIS7c

Scared you say?
Title: Re: Liberal Attacks on Palin for Being a Woman and Mother?
Post by: eagl on September 03, 2008, 07:23:44 PM
Apparently according to the attack liberals, women with kids should remain ignorant, barefoot and pregnant, in the kitchen.  They should be content to pop out puppies and I told you to have dinner ready when I came home you worthless twitch, now get me a beer stupid worthless...

That's sure what it sounds like.  They apparently can't STAND a woman with a successful family and career.  Hmmm, maybe that's why Hillary didn't make it.
Title: Re: Liberal Attacks on Palin for Being a Woman and Mother?
Post by: FrodeMk3 on September 03, 2008, 07:35:39 PM
Apparently according to the attack liberals, women with kids should remain ignorant, barefoot and pregnant, in the kitchen.  They should be content to pop out puppies and I told you to have dinner ready when I came home you worthless twitch, now get me a beer stupid worthless...

That's sure what it sounds like.  They apparently can't STAND a woman with a successful family and career.  Hmmm, maybe that's why Hillary didn't make it.

I've heard rednecks make these very same statements regarding women, All too many times. Right after they cussed out Clintons' assault weapons' ban. I think it's slightly humorous that you've turned the Democratic party into the emperors' of the trailer park... :rofl

Next, ya'll will be chastising Obama for allowing 'dangerous black guns with Hi-cap mags'...like he's a republican or something... :rofl
Title: Re: Liberal Attacks on Palin for Being a Woman and Mother?
Post by: bj229r on September 03, 2008, 07:52:55 PM
It's a big deal because it's the same as teaching the tooth fairy is responsible for leaving a dollar under your pillow in school. There is no scientific facts behind creationism, it's a religious belief that has no business in a public school system. On top of that it puts one small part of a specific religion ahead of all others.

Are you going to agree with having your kids sit through the teaching of the Koran? Scientology? Buddhism? What about the various American Indian religious beliefs? If they want to go over the "theory" of creationism is social studies as part a course then it's not that big of a deal assuming they give the other popular religions their fair time as well.  

However trying to teach it as scientific fact is ludicrous because it's nothing more than a part of a religious belief. In short if you want bible study for your kids then go to church because that's where it belongs.


As for the media in the feeding frenzy over Palin.. well that's exactly what is going to happen when he picks some unknown that for the most part no one has heard of. It's the media's job to then start digging if they found nothing wrong right away then it would have likely just been a frenzy over "who is the woman".

However every time you turn around there is more dirt under the rug, so that causes the frenzy to keep growing and looking deeper..Because McCain didn't properly vet her.. the media is now doing it for him.
She made a SINGLe statement during a 2006 gubernatorial debate--that she has no objection to "teaching both" evolution and creation.  After the debate, however, she clarified that she did not think the state should require the teaching of creationism or other anti-evolution theories alongside evolution in public schools.  “I don’t think there should be a prohibition against debate if it comes up in class. It doesn’t have to be part of the curriculum," she said. From that, the MSM has painted her as Elmer Gantry
link (http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/31088_Sarah_Palin_and_Creationism)
Title: Re: Liberal Attacks on Palin for Being a Woman and Mother?
Post by: crockett on September 03, 2008, 08:09:35 PM
Opps it looks like it's open mic night.. tell us how you really feel about Palin and McCain's pick.. This is Peggy Shill Noonan 
 :rofl

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrG8w4bb3kg

Title: Re: Liberal Attacks on Palin for Being a Woman and Mother?
Post by: Donzo on September 03, 2008, 08:14:43 PM
Opps it looks like it's open mic night.. tell us how you really feel about Palin and McCain's pick.. This is Peggy Shill Noonan 
 :rofl

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrG8w4bb3kg




Well, there's two that McCain doesn't need to vet for cabinet positions.
Title: Re: Liberal Attacks on Palin for Being a Woman and Mother?
Post by: WWhiskey on September 03, 2008, 08:35:00 PM
What do we have, 6, 7 threads about Palin? If she's such a great pick you have to wonder why all the effort defending her.




or trying to destroy her? :huh
Title: Re: Liberal Attacks on Palin for Being a Woman and Mother?
Post by: Anaxogoras on September 03, 2008, 09:26:30 PM
For accuracy's sake, I think Palin's position is that schools should teach curriculums that the PARENTS want them to teach... in this case, creationism alongside evolution.

I happen to agree that PARENTS should be able to customize curriculums for what the local majority feel is important.  We shouldn't allow a liberal unionized centralized partisan federal institution to deny feedback and decision making on curriculums by parents.

No biology teacher of any worth is going to let a majority of parents tell him/her to teach creationism alongside evolution; they should quit their jobs rather than comply with such a mandate.  If it's so important to parents to ruin the scientific education of their children, they can homeschool them.

There are constitutional protections against a local majority of parents customizing the curriculum at their local public school, e.g. no religion except as a study of demographics or cultural customs.  That is how we protect minority rights, or better, the rights of the individual against the herd.
Title: Re: Liberal Attacks on Palin for Being a Woman and Mother?
Post by: crockett on September 03, 2008, 09:28:22 PM

Well, there's two that McCain doesn't need to vet for cabinet positions.

Oh come on now you have to admit that's some funny stuff. They had just been on air talking about how great she was and talking up the whole party line for the TV. Then soon as they think they are off air, they start bashing both her and McCain and these are Conservative talking heads.

So when it's even the Republicans saying she doesn't have the needed experience and wasn't the best choice, then how can you guys blame the Democrats or the rest of the Media for doing the same?
Title: Re: Liberal Attacks on Palin for Being a Woman and Mother?
Post by: Warspawn on September 03, 2008, 10:16:23 PM

So when it's even the Republicans saying she doesn't have the needed experience and wasn't the best choice, then how can you guys blame the Democrats or the rest of the Media for doing the same?


You got to be kidding me, right?  I mean, the Presidential nominee for the democrats has a few months as a junior senator from Illinois?  Half his term was campaigning for the nomination.  His VP is a trash-talking anti-gun nut with very bad hair plugs.   Versus a distinguished veteran/PoW in McCain and the most popular governor in the country.  This is going to be the most lopsided victory for the Republican party in recent memory.
Title: Re: Liberal Attacks on Palin for Being a Woman and Mother?
Post by: Hangtime on September 03, 2008, 10:20:34 PM
You got to be kidding me, right?  I mean, the Presidential nominee for the democrats has a few months as a junior senator from Illinois?  Half his term was campaigning for the nomination.  His VP is a trash-talking anti-gun nut with very bad hair plugs.   Versus a distinguished veteran/PoW in McCain and the most popular governor in the country.  This is going to be the most lopsided victory for the Republican party in recent memory.

Hair plugs don't make him a travesty of 'change'... being a career politician and washington insider does. The hair plugs are just a humorous diversion.
Title: Re: Liberal Attacks on Palin for Being a Woman and Mother?
Post by: DYNAMITE on September 03, 2008, 10:21:57 PM
You got to be kidding me, right?  I mean, the Presidential nominee for the democrats has a few months as a junior senator from Illinois?  Half his term was campaigning for the nomination.  His VP is a trash-talking anti-gun nut with very bad hair plugs.   Versus a distinguished veteran/PoW in McCain and the most popular governor in the country.  This is going to be the most lopsided victory for the Republican party in recent memory.

enjoy your koolaid  :rofl
Title: Re: Liberal Attacks on Palin for Being a Woman and Mother?
Post by: Getback on September 04, 2008, 02:35:52 AM
Don't you guys wonder why we know more about Palin in a week than we do about Obama! Especially his associations with Ayers and others. Those aren't being investigated and anyone that looks is being squelched.
Title: Re: Liberal Attacks on Palin for Being a Woman and Mother?
Post by: straffo on September 04, 2008, 06:02:08 AM
What's the deal here?  Also, her stance on teaching creation theory alongside evolution...why be so critical about that?  Would they attack a man with 5 kids the same way?
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a belief don't have to be teached or it's not a belief.
Title: Re: Liberal Attacks on Palin for Being a Woman and Mother?
Post by: crockett on September 04, 2008, 07:46:20 AM
Getting back on the topic of "Liberal Attacks on Palin for Being a Woman and Mother?"

This is quite so ironic... leave it to the Daily Show to dig up the good stuff...   :rofl

http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=184086&title=sarah-palin-gender-card
Title: Re: Liberal Attacks on Palin for Being a Woman and Mother?
Post by: Anaxogoras on September 04, 2008, 08:42:38 AM
Nice find strafing! :aok
 :rofl :rofl :rofl
Title: Re: Liberal Attacks on Palin for Being a Woman and Mother?
Post by: lazs2 on September 04, 2008, 08:44:05 AM
ah.. the daily show.....

I told you that the libs here would/were doing poor imitations of their hero... jon.."make a funny face" stewart who..  is now back at the top of his game.. now that the writers aren't on strike..   funny faces with no lines didn't seem to work tooooooo well did they?

so now.. after the jon "make a funny face" stewart imitations have fallen flat.. they go right to the source.

The reason they have to link it is because....

They are the only people who care.. everyone else sees the show for what it is..  a simple move on dot org in drag...  not worth watching.

lazs
Title: Re: Liberal Attacks on Palin for Being a Woman and Mother?
Post by: Anaxogoras on September 04, 2008, 08:55:10 AM
ah.. the daily show.....

I told you that the libs here would/were doing poor imitations of their hero... jon.."make a funny face" stewart who..  is now back at the top of his game.. now that the writers aren't on strike..   funny faces with no lines didn't seem to work tooooooo well did they?

so now.. after the jon "make a funny face" stewart imitations have fallen flat.. they go right to the source.

The reason they have to link it is because....

They are the only people who care.. everyone else sees the show for what it is..  a simple move on dot org in drag...  not worth watching.

lazs

Lazs, you're even funnier than the daily show.  You belong in a museum where more people could appreciate all of the outrageous invective you spew from behind a computer.
Title: Re: Liberal Attacks on Palin for Being a Woman and Mother?
Post by: Elfie on September 04, 2008, 09:00:28 AM
Getting back on the topic of "Liberal Attacks on Palin for Being a Woman and Mother?"

This is quite so ironic... leave it to the Daily Show to dig up the good stuff...   :rofl

http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=184086&title=sarah-palin-gender-card

Notice how Palin doesn't complain but instead says that those who do complain reflect poorly on the rest? She says that instead of complaining, you should simply work harder. ;)
Title: Re: Liberal Attacks on Palin for Being a Woman and Mother?
Post by: Elfie on September 04, 2008, 09:01:22 AM
Lazs, you're even funnier than the daily show.  You belong in a museum where more people could appreciate all of the outrageous invective you spew from behind a computer.

And YOU aren't spewing stuff from behind a computer?   :D
Title: Re: Liberal Attacks on Palin for Being a Woman and Mother?
Post by: bongaroo on September 04, 2008, 09:02:17 AM
It does seem that Palin has knocked Obama out of the news Myelo, not just people here talking about her.

For accuracy's sake, I think Palin's position is that schools should teach curriculums that the PARENTS want them to teach... in this case, creationism alongside evolution.

I happen to agree that PARENTS should be able to customize curriculums for what the local majority feel is important.  We shouldn't allow a liberal unionized centralized partisan federal institution to deny feedback and decision making on curriculums by parents.

If my children (which I don't have any) have to listen to creationist propaganda in schools than they sure as hell better be hearing every version of creationist propaganda, namely about the Flying Spaghetti Monster.  http://www.venganza.org/about/open-letter/ (http://www.venganza.org/about/open-letter/)

Because it's only fair  :D
Title: Re: Liberal Attacks on Palin for Being a Woman and Mother?
Post by: Elfie on September 04, 2008, 09:05:23 AM
If my children (which I don't have any) have to listen to creationist propaganda in schools than they sure as hell better be hearing every version of creationist propaganda, namely about the Flying Spaghetti Monster.  http://www.venganza.org/about/open-letter/ (http://www.venganza.org/about/open-letter/)

Because it's only fair  :D

Since when does the Flying Spaghetti Monster have anything to do with any religions version of creation? ;)
Title: Re: Liberal Attacks on Palin for Being a Woman and Mother?
Post by: crockett on September 04, 2008, 09:05:58 AM
Notice how Palin doesn't complain but instead says that those who do complain reflect poorly on the rest? She says that instead of complaining, you should simply work harder. ;)

Yet notice none of the other Republican talking heads thought the same...  ;)
Title: Re: Liberal Attacks on Palin for Being a Woman and Mother?
Post by: bongaroo on September 04, 2008, 09:07:02 AM
ah.. the daily show.....

I told you that the libs here would/were doing poor imitations of their hero... jon.."make a funny face" stewart who..  is now back at the top of his game.. now that the writers aren't on strike..   funny faces with no lines didn't seem to work tooooooo well did they?

so now.. after the jon "make a funny face" stewart imitations have fallen flat.. they go right to the source.

The reason they have to link it is because....

They are the only people who care.. everyone else sees the show for what it is..  a simple move on dot org in drag...  not worth watching.

lazs

Or we watch it because its funny.  Maybe thats it! 
Title: Re: Liberal Attacks on Palin for Being a Woman and Mother?
Post by: Elfie on September 04, 2008, 09:08:17 AM
Yet notice none of the other Republican talking heads thought the same...  ;)


Sarah Palin is now a talking head?  :O
Title: Re: Liberal Attacks on Palin for Being a Woman and Mother?
Post by: lazs2 on September 04, 2008, 09:08:29 AM
Hell anax..  if you enjoy me "behind a computer" you would be rolling if you met me in person.

I am moderated here..   ask anyone here who has met me if I am different in person.

lazs   

Title: Re: Liberal Attacks on Palin for Being a Woman and Mother?
Post by: bongaroo on September 04, 2008, 09:08:54 AM
Since when does the Flying Spaghetti Monster have anything to do with any religions version of creation? ;)

Obviously you haven't been touched by his noodly appendage.   :aok

::hides behind my computer::
Title: Re: Liberal Attacks on Palin for Being a Woman and Mother?
Post by: indy007 on September 04, 2008, 09:11:45 AM
Since when does the Flying Spaghetti Monster have anything to do with any religions version of creation? ;)

FSM has its own version of creationism. It's just as valid as any abrahamic religion.
Title: Re: Liberal Attacks on Palin for Being a Woman and Mother?
Post by: Elfie on September 04, 2008, 09:15:37 AM
FSM has its own version of creationism. It's just as valid as any abrahamic religion.

FSM is a parody religion, not an actual religion. :)
Title: Re: Liberal Attacks on Palin for Being a Woman and Mother?
Post by: bongaroo on September 04, 2008, 09:18:37 AM
Their church will tell you otherwise :D
Title: Re: Liberal Attacks on Palin for Being a Woman and Mother?
Post by: indy007 on September 04, 2008, 09:35:53 AM
FSM is a parody religion, not an actual religion. :)

That's what all the infidels say.
Title: Re: Liberal Attacks on Palin for Being a Woman and Mother?
Post by: Charon on September 04, 2008, 09:52:13 AM
LOL. Harry Reid just called her Shrill and CNNs Campbell Brown just jumped to Palin's defense  :rofl

The Democrats just can't help themselves with women candidates. They'll keep forcing Hillery supporters away from the polls in Nov.

Charon
Title: Re: Liberal Attacks on Palin for Being a Woman and Mother?
Post by: crockett on September 04, 2008, 10:09:54 AM


Sarah Palin is now a talking head?  :O

I was talking about Karl Rove and the other goons in that video..
Title: Re: Liberal Attacks on Palin for Being a Woman and Mother?
Post by: crockett on September 04, 2008, 10:11:30 AM
FSM has its own version of creationism. It's just as valid as any abrahamic religion.

As is scientology.. I bet if you ask the kids, which religion would be more fun to learn about.. I'd bet anything they would pick space aliens and volcanoes any day of the week.
Title: Re: Liberal Attacks on Palin for Being a Woman and Mother?
Post by: Yeager on September 04, 2008, 10:12:59 AM
As is scientology.. I bet if you ask the kids, which religion would be more fun to learn about.. I'd bet anything they would pick space aliens and volcanoes any day of the week.

do you have kids crockett?