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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: RedTop on September 04, 2008, 01:40:56 PM
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Bill O gets his long awaited shot at Obama...1st part of interview will be on tonight....If Obama nails this...IMO it will do a TON for his effort. If he doesn't...the Repubs. will be alllll over it.
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O'Reelly as a tool..
That's justice. ;)
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Probably a non-event. O'Reilly will probably ask questions that are above Obamessiah's pay grade. :devil
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LOL!
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I haven't watched too much O'Reilly, but from what I've seen, he's a coward. He'll act all pissed, until that person he's complaining about is sitting in front of him.
Then he acts cordial.
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O'reily and Olberman are two people I won't watch anymore.
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I haven't watched too much O'Reilly, but from what I've seen, he's a coward. He'll act all pissed, until that person he's complaining about is sitting in front of him.
Then he acts cordial.
Yup. He's a republican tool. And Obama is using him as tool to shift attention to him and away from McCain on McCains speech night.
Re-Tooled.
LOL.
Suits.
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O'reily and Olberman are two people I won't watch anymore.
Agreed...I used to watch O reily all the time...now I dont like him or his views.
He's turned Hollywood.
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I haven't watched too much O'Reilly, but from what I've seen, he's a coward. He'll act all pissed, until that person he's complaining about is sitting in front of him.
Then he acts cordial.
I remember when he had Jenna Jameson his show and asked her how should could sell her body like that and then talked about the evils of pornography. She answered his question with "it didn't stop you for asking me to sign on of my videos back stage". Made him look like a complete and utter tool on the air, priceless.
ack-ack
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I remember when he had Jenna Jameson his show and asked her how should could sell her body like that and then talked about the evils of pornography. She answered his question with "it didn't stop you for asking me to sign on of my videos back stage". Made him look like a complete and utter tool on the air, priceless.
ack-ack
O'Reilly is nothing more than a "act", even he doesn't believe the BS he spews on air, his on air personal is just a act for the show and for the ratings. I'm not saying that to bash him because I sometimes watch him, because I think he can be funny at times.
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I think I can count the times on one hand that I've watched O'Reilly. We watched fox news so infrequently that I recently modified our Dish Network service, and now we don't get it at all anymore. Local news, and interweb. That's where I get my information.
TV is garbage these days.
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Agreed...I used to watch O reily all the time...now I dont like him or his views.
He's turned Hollywood.
What are you talking about...
He's always been hollywood starting with Inside Edition (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tJjNVVwRCY).
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I remember when he had Jenna Jameson his show and asked her how should could sell her body like that and then talked about the evils of pornography. She answered his question with "it didn't stop you for asking me to sign on of my videos back stage". Made him look like a complete and utter tool on the air, priceless.
ack-ack
:rofl
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I remember when he had Jenna Jameson his show and asked her how should could sell her body like that and then talked about the evils of pornography. She answered his question with "it didn't stop you for asking me to sign on of my videos back stage". Made him look like a complete and utter tool on the air, priceless.ack-ack
Yup. MY buddy sent me one of his books, it has a VERY large layer of dust on it. I'll never read it.
On the Jenna thing though. :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
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Billo the Clown (http://encyclopediadramatica.com/Bill_O%27Reilly)
Bill O'Reilly is... (http://www.thehowdydoodyuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=bill_oreilly)
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On the Jenna thing though. :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
Honestly, I don't think he expected her to be as intelligent as she is and thought she was just another piece of meat with a nice arse and tits. It's also interesting to point out that she did a debate at Oxford University whether or not porn was unhealthy. She won the debate 204 to 27.
ack-ack
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bloviated.
he's still a tool.
And Obama weaseled when nailed on the surge, Iran, Pakistan..
Faux news. Gawd.
I weep for the species.
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I thought Obama would be better....he wasn't.
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I agree with most a lot of Bill's positions in politics..but he is painfull to watch.
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Honestly, I'd rather watch him atleast give Barack Obama tough questions than NBC.
Tell me this, is Bill O'Reilly better than NBC? Or CNN? Atleast he asks real questions. Me personally, I like O'Reilly, it's obvious he has conservative views, and he may as well ask tougher questions to make it look so. O'Reilly could probably be asking some real questions to liberals to get them to speak out.
Just remember, Fox is the best we got regarding the average AMERICAN media. bloviated.
he's still a tool.
And Obama weaseled when nailed on the surge, Iran, Pakistan..
Faux news. Gawd.
I weep for the species.
I suppose CNN, NBC, and CBS are just 100% truthful.... :rolleyes:
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Honestly, I'd rather watch him atleast give Barack Obama tough questions than NBC.
Tell me this, is Bill O'Reilly better than NBC? Or CNN? Atleast he asks real questions. Me personally, I like O'Reilly, it's obvious he has conservative views, and he may as well ask tougher questions to make it look so. O'Reilly could probably be asking some real questions to liberals to get them to speak out.
Just remember, Fox is the best we got regarding the average AMERICAN media.
I suppose CNN, NBC, and CBS are just 100% truthful.... :rolleyes:
Horsepucky.. there's a big sucking vacuum in every corporate newsroom worldwide. I remember Katrina, watching Shepard on Faux wail about the body on the bridge for three days... never saw him raise a finger to move her.. or help anybody else. He could wail tho..
Faux sells republican talking points, MSNBC, CNN, the broadcast networks and NPR sells the democratic talking points. All of them seem to have an agenda.. and it's not mine. I'm an american, not a republican or a democrat. I'd just like to get the news somewhere without the freakin spin.
If you think the 'no-spin zone' has no spin... If you think your getting the truth on Faux.. put down the kool-aid. They're just as bent and the rest of them.. just a different flavor of crap.
The preceding does not necessarily represent the positions or policy's of your corporate owners. You are encouraged to ignore the input and refill your grape koolaid prescription. Disclaimer not valid after 10:00pm in sectors R or N.
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O'Reilly tried to get Obama to admit he was wrong about the surge. Obama wouldn't do it. It occured to me that even though it's obvious he was wrong to anyone with half a brain there are those who will believe anything he says. He knows this which is why he won't admit the obvious. Kinda reminds me of our first black president.
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Horsepucky.. there's a big sucking vacuum in every corporate newsroom worldwide. I remember Katrina, watching Shepard on Faux wail about the body on the bridge for three days... never saw him raise a finger to move her.. or help anybody else. He could wail tho..
Faux sells republican talking points, MSNBC, CNN, the broadcast networks and NPR sells the democratic talking points. All of them seem to have an agenda.. and it's not mine. I'm an american, not a republican or a democrat. I'd just like to get the news somewhere without the freakin spin.
If you think the 'no-spin zone' has no spin... If you think your getting the truth on Faux.. put down the kool-aid. They're just as bent and the rest of them.. just a different flavor of crap.
The preceding does not necessarily represent the positions or policy's of your corporate owners. You are encouraged to ignore the input and refill your grape koolaid prescription. Disclaimer not valid after 10:00pm in sectors R or N.
Like I said before and I'll say again, he's better than NBC or CNN, doesn't mean I like him. Personally, I dont watch Bill O'Reilly that much, I watch the others, they seem 'more' towards the center.
Fox is my fav of em all, CNN comes about 10 or 20 years behind in 2nd, NBC, dead last. Even behind the local news stations.
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Kinda reminds me of our first black president.
For about 3 seconds i stared at that comment going 'enh?'
then it hit me...
hehehehhehhehhehheh '1st black president' hehehhehehhe
Nice. well played. :aok
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Vote Mac '08
Free America
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Mac
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Vote Mac '08
Free America
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Mac
Man, the PNG next to your name keeps confusing me! :noid :noid
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Honestly, I'd rather watch him atleast give Barack Obama tough questions than NBC.
Tell me this, is Bill O'Reilly better than NBC? Or CNN? Atleast he asks real questions. Me personally, I like O'Reilly, it's obvious he has conservative views, and he may as well ask tougher questions to make it look so. O'Reilly could probably be asking some real questions to liberals to get them to speak out.
Just remember, Fox is the best we got regarding the average AMERICAN media.
Just because they tell you what you want to hear doesn't mean they're any better than any other media source. In fact, O'Reilly pretty much cuts the cake as the most idiotic reporter in the media, with only Kieth Olbermann coming close...
Personally I usually watch MSNBC and occasionally Fox.
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For about 3 seconds i stared at that comment going 'enh?'
then it hit me...
hehehehhehhehhehheh '1st black president' hehehhehehhe
Nice. well played. :aok
I'm still going.....eh?
/shrug
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Bill Clinton claims is is really America's first black president.
:rolleyes:,
Wab
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Obama is at least half white.
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O'Reilly tried to get Obama to admit he was wrong about the surge. Obama wouldn't do it. It occured to me that even though it's obvious he was wrong to anyone with half a brain there are those who will believe anything he says. He knows this which is why he won't admit the obvious. Kinda reminds me of our first black president.
Try to get Bush to admit it was wrong to pull our troops out of Afghanistan and go to Iraq. Try to get Bush to admit he screwed up at the start of Afghan and could have likely killed or captured Bin Laden but he didn't put enough troops on the ground. Try to get Bush to admit he messed up by not having a plan for once we took over Iraq just in case they didn't welcome us with "open arms". Obama isn't going to admit to anything like that just like no other politician would.
Overall I thought Obama could have been much better, he seemed to fumble around a bit which isn't common for him, so IMO it wasn't a very good interview for him or at least not one of his best. On the surge stuff yea can't really expect the guy to admit anything, because when he made that vote Bush had a bad track record in Iraq and we were losing ground. Voting yes or no was really just nothing more than taking a gamble, because with just the surge alone Iraq wouldn't have gotten better.
The deal is politically there wasn't much to gain by voting No or Yes because it's a lose lose situation. If he voted Yes then if it didn't work he looks bad, if he voted no and it didn't work the right blames him for the failure. If he voted no and it worked the Right use it against him. The important part is he voted with what he believed not, what would look the best politically.
I'd say the biggest thing that helped us, was the fact most of the insurgents turned sides and started helping us. Had that not happened the amount of troops would have been meaningless, because no army has ever out lasted a organized insurgency.
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I really can't listen to OReilly on the radio and I'm a talk show junkie. He seems overly pompous as though he is unknowingly struggling against some sort of inferiority complex or something. It grates on my nerves.
Past that, I will ocassionally watch his tv interviews. I'll watch Obama on his show tonight. I don't think this kind of venue is Obama's forte at all. If OReilly tries to pin Obama down on the tough questions I think Obama could have a problem. He will have to try to hide or dilute his real feelings on issues in order to make them palatible to OReillie's audience, and the only way he knows how to do this is to start parsing his *** off... like at saddleback.
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Sometimes Crockett it really is as simple as there being a right choice and a wrong choice. Obama made the wrong one but is unwilling to admit it. If you're looking for excuses life can always be complicated enough to provide one or two.
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Try to get Bush to admit it was wrong to pull our troops out of Afghanistan and go to Iraq.
"But Mommy, Charlie's parents let him do it!"
Does that excuse ever work?
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Like I said before and I'll say again, he's better than NBC or CNN,
you make no sense, how can an anchor be better than a network? you say you don't like him then you say hes the best out there. :huh
Bill O'reily is one of the most notorious hipocrits in the biz, and he's a complete and utter a'hole. Just google "Oreily blows top". :aok He's a worthless pos
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Sometimes Crockett it really is as simple as there being a right choice and a wrong choice. Obama made the wrong one but is unwilling to admit it. If you're looking for excuses life can always be complicated enough to provide one or two.
It's easy to say that in hind sight, once it worked but you know damn well if it didn't work you would have been bashing Obama if he had voted Yes. If I remember correctly, Obama didn't vote for this because Bush was "at that time" against giving a firm withdraw time line. Obama wasn't going to vote for more troops with no end in sight. Obama stuck to his guns about wanting a firm time line for troop withdraw. Also if I remember correctly Obama did vote yes for more funding prior to this but the Republicans wouldn't vote yes at that time, because there was a timeline in the bill and it didn't pass.
If I'm not mistaken this was the same bill and Obama voted no the second time around because the troop withdraw time line was taken out.
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It's easy to say that in hind sight, once it worked but you know damn well if it didn't work you would have been bashing Obama if he had voted Yes. If I remember correctly, Obama didn't vote for this because Bush was "at that time" against giving a firm withdraw time line. Obama wasn't going to vote for more troops with no end in sight. Obama stuck to his guns about wanting a firm time line for troop withdraw. Also if I remember correctly Obama did vote yes for more funding prior to this but the Republicans wouldn't vote yes at that time, because there was a timeline in the bill and it didn't pass.
If I'm not mistaken this was the same bill and Obama voted no the second time around because the troop withdraw time line was taken out.
Whoa, with all your criticisms of Bush you aren't allowed to use the "hindsight" argument.
However, if you insist, Obama's hindsight appears to need corrective lenses. It doesn't appear that he realizes he was wrong when voting to deny the surge that McCain championed.
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Does TV, Youtube, radio mess big time with either side saying, "You're right. I was wrong about that"? It would be blasted 24/7 everywhere with the caption, "Do you want someone who was wrong about something running America?"
Actually, it's the people behind the scenes I guess. The media doesn't kill people; people kill people. Which I don't buy. I hate the "Look! He ate the head off a ferret" stuff.
I know much is a sideshow. And amongst it profounder things exist.
Would have been nice if Obama had said, "I was against the surge because I thought it would not work. Also, by being against it, I could be on the popular side of American opinion. I thought doing so would serve me well during the primaries and election. I was surprised that it worked. I was wrong about the surge."
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Does TV, Youtube, radio mess big time with either side saying, "You're right. I was wrong about that"? It would be blasted 24/7 everywhere with the caption, "Do you want someone who was wrong about something running America?"
Actually, it's the people behind the scenes I guess. The media doesn't kill people; people kill people. Which I don't buy. I hate the "Look! He ate the head off a ferret" stuff.
I know much is a sideshow. And amongst it profounder things exist.
Would have been nice if Obama had said, "I was against the surge because I thought it would not work. Also, by being against it, I could be on the popular side of American opinion. I thought doing so would serve me well during the primaries and election. I was surprised that it worked. I was wrong about the surge."
or maybe he is trying to keep his stance from the get go. No more troops, get the F out now.
BUt i think hes just a twit anyway so who cares...
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or maybe he is trying to keep his stance from the get go. No more troops, get the F out now.
BUt i think hes just a twit anyway so who cares...
It's hard to know his position, I think it's above his pay grade.
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It's hard to know his position, I think it's above his pay grade.
His position is, it was wrong from the beginning to even be in IRAQ. The question is a no win for him, because his response would most certainly be used in negative context by his enemies, when in fact his position has always been no on IRAQ. The surge was a last ditch effort from Bush to stem the tide of deaths of americans over there, unfortunately for his legacy, proof that the surge worked will always be distorted with the payoff of the sunni's.
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Whoa, with all your criticisms of Bush you aren't allowed to use the "hindsight" argument.
However, if you insist, Obama's hindsight appears to need corrective lenses. It doesn't appear that he realizes he was wrong when voting to deny the surge that McCain championed.
Why not? I never supported the war in Iraq from the get go I've always been against it.
I did and still do support the war in Afghanistan because it is part of the "real" war on terror. I was extremely pissed when Bush and co started pulling troops out of Afghan to put in Iraq and I predicted that Afghan would turn to crap because of it.
I don't need to say anything in hindsight with regards to Bush because I knew it and said it before hand.
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damn crock-it.. you sure spew a lot of stuff just to agree that your boy was wrong on the surge.
Just say "osamabama was wrong on the surge cause he doesn't have a clue" and get it over with. that's all anyone got out of your 3 speech's on it anyway.
lazs
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crockett , like obama is just dancing in the dark.
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Why not? I never supported the war in Iraq from the get go I've always been against it.
I did and still do support the war in Afghanistan because it is part of the "real" war on terror. I was extremely pissed when Bush and co started pulling troops out of Afghan to put in Iraq and I predicted that Afghan would turn to crap because of it.
I don't need to say anything in hindsight with regards to Bush because I knew it and said it before hand.
As someone who has been involved in the WOT for eight years (four active duty, four as a DOD civilian) I can tell you that you don't know what you're talking about when you speak of the "real" war on terror. It is not just an Afghanistan thing, it's the entire region and yes, that includes Iraq. You can add Iran, Syria, Lebanon, the Arabian Penninsula, the 'stans, North Africa, the Horn of Africa, South America, etc., etc., etc. The war in Iraq has done more damage to al Qaida then most know or understand but then most people rely on the media and political pundits for their views. Things are not nearly as simple as 30-second soundbites make it sound.
We can all, with hindsight, declare what went right or wrong but then we didn't have to make the call when the results were not known. No war is mistake free, there are certainly things that can be debated; however, for Obama to refuse to acknowledge he was wrong is dishonest or blind. For those that claim that it wasn't the surge it was other factors, they are ignoring the enabler for these other factors. Sunni insurgents started to jump ship and come over to our side because we had already announced the surge and Sadr's Mahdi Army was beaten after the surge began. These guys knew they couldn't win and, after the surge was announced, knew they could no longer wait it out.
This is exactly why all these anti-war politicians are dispicable. Not because they oppose war but because their constant threats to pull funding and impeach Bush encouraged the enemy to continue to fight. This is also why the stupidist f##king thing you can do in a war is set a date for it to end. The enemy will just wait you out just as the North Vietnamese did when we announced we were withdrawing our troops from South Vietnam. I'll also remind you that GEN Petraus still says that the achievements of the surge are not set in concrete. My fear is that an Obama presidency will encourage yet another round of insurgency aided and abetted by an Iran with no reason to fear us. On a more historical note, North Vietnam admitted it was the anti-war crowd in the US and Europe that encouraged them to continue a fight they had already lost militarily in 1968. It's really pretty simple when you think about it.
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I thought Obama would be better....he wasn't.
Of course he wasn't. He didn't have a teleprompter.