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Title: 1v1s in the MA
Post by: JunkyII on September 05, 2008, 03:30:33 PM
I know it rarely happens but i know you probably remember some of your best 1v1s in the Main Arena. These aremy personal favorites :rock

Adonai(109G-6) vs JunkyII(Ki-61) I had been chasing Adonai around Tank Town all day, I almost got a pick when he noticed me closing on his six and he reversed back. I called off allthe friendlys around me and it seemed like he did too. I was still pretty newb when it came to ACM at the time and he made me end up stalling out in a vertical fight, he PW me and i bailed due to other enemy starting to engage. I learned that throttle control helps with turning a ton, all about how you want to make your nose go.

Yenny(109K-4) vs JunkyII(Ki-61) This was pure 1v1 when I went bi for a bit,oops I mean bish :D Co-Alt Co-E, we started looping over and I ended up getting alil bit of gun on him and shot off something essential so it was just a matter of time. This fight made me think maybe the Ki can climb with the 109s under 5-8k.

Teflonn(F4U-1) vs JunkyII(Ki-61) Great Fight. I was picking at him but he was reversing really well, he actually had my six for a bit but I started to spiral climb which worked like a charm. He became target fixated and lost alot of E. I rudder turn back on him and got his six,acouple of those cowl cannons will knock down any plane fast :D

Joker2(F4U-1A) vs JunkyII(Ki-61) This fight I had to work Joker over for by taunting him on 200(Joker i think 200 is your weakness hehe).I started out above him and came down throttled back looking for good shot. Of course I over shoot and we get to turning. I try to use the same tactic I used against Teflonn which was working but Joker nosed down alil faster, I was going too slow and had not enough flaps out and went into a stall below 1000ft. I barely got out and my SA went to hell, I had no clue where he was till it was too late. I didnt try to run but i did try getting the over shoot by doing something I call "Waving my Rudder"Pretty much i just rudder and slight turn alil to slow me down a ton a try to get lucky, from behind you can see my rudder going pretty crazy :)

DaveyJ(P-38L) vs JunkyII(La-5FN) This was just a good fight with a good friend. I won due to a mistake by Davey which seemed like he wasnt throttled up, but we ended up looping with me being the victor after i got my flaps down :)

Share some of your fights or give info on tactics you can use 1v1plz :pray
Title: Re: 1v1s in the MA
Post by: SuBWaYCH on September 05, 2008, 03:34:08 PM
Had a good 1vs1 with Tex01 once. I was in a Yak-9U I think he was in an F4F, and after a grueling 5 min TnB fight, I managed to get a shot on him. He got a few good shots on me too.

 :salute Tex01

Title: Re: 1v1s in the MA
Post by: Platano on September 05, 2008, 04:45:37 PM
only one i can remember was about a year ago

my k4 vs jaxxo and a spit9...

longest session of rolling and stalling scissors I can remember..

oh and I won because I was able to go vert doing 50mph and he couldnt  :devil
Title: Re: 1v1s in the MA
Post by: Yenny on September 05, 2008, 04:48:17 PM


longest session of rolling and stalling scissors I can remember..

oh and I won because I was able to go vert doing 50mph and he couldnt  :devil

What I love the mostabout the K4. =)
Title: Re: 1v1s in the MA
Post by: 1pLUs44 on September 05, 2008, 04:53:31 PM
Hmm lets see.... I think it was me in a Spit 9 vs. 1 F4U-4, 1 Spit 16 and 1 Jug. All started out picking me ( I was low and slow) and ended up dragging all 3 down.
Title: Re: 1v1s in the MA
Post by: mechanic on September 05, 2008, 05:14:16 PM
Have had too many to remember all but my most recent was about six months ago. I had been flying long range high alt patrol in a group of five mustangs and broke off to engage a very high 109k4. Keeping the pony fast but nimble i was able to evade numerous attacks and give return fire on the reversal but niether of us did any damage.I sensed my opponent reacting to each evasive i pulled and trying a new angle or approach the next time yet he was reluctant to engage in a full on turn fight and was thus relatively easy to dodge untill suddenly he curled up his feathers and started to match my speed. We twisted and turned in a long fight as i slowly nicked 10mph off his advantage every minute.
 When at last we were equal he really started showing his skills, i had underestimated this 109 and the early BnZ was just him testing me. We slowed right down and got into a tight rolling scissors each taking hits but no dagame untill the 50cals raked his engine and holed his radiator. We turned a few more revolutions as i desperately flung that pony around to avoid his taters.
 Finally after what must have been a ten minute fight i slipped up just once, the slightest mistake which so far i had avoided almost to perfection. I dropped out of my roll and leveled off on the water with the 109 smartly rolling out of his turn at about 300 yrds and knew i was dead. Good fight i thought, why didnt i keep my speed on that last roll, damn. Then he is falling back to 400, then 450 and trhowing taters like mad at me. He stops shooting at about 500 and I remember the radiator. He sits it down on thewater with no engine and i do a victory roll and fly off home. He towers out and i dont get the credit. But we spoke after and im sure Bruv remembers that fight, and how lucky i was to get away at the end. S!
Title: Re: 1v1s in the MA
Post by: SEraider on September 05, 2008, 05:48:06 PM
Junky, do you go to the DA a lot?? Or at all?
Title: Re: 1v1s in the MA
Post by: RedTop on September 05, 2008, 06:31:32 PM
Been a lot of fights that got my adreniline going good...but the best ones I have had most recently (this year I guess) was with JanneK in his 109 and me in the Jug. He beats me 9 out of 10 times and sometimes I think he just toys with me until he tires...but no matter....he is by far one of the best fights I have almost everytime we meet.

BatfinkV in the DA.....he lets me win 1 or 2 just so I don't ruin a keyboard or break my joystick.

LilMak in a Jug vs Jug fight.

TwinBoom a couple of times.

MtnMan in his damn slow flying frikin F4U. (he ought to be perked in that)

SlapShot in the SpitV before it was nutered. Levi as well.

BluKitty in that jug.....Had a great fight one time that lasted what seemed like hours....only to die yet again.

All the fights I remember I die in....Hmmmmmmmm :uhoh
Title: Re: 1v1s in the MA
Post by: dkff49 on September 05, 2008, 07:03:39 PM
I would say my most memorable ones have been in the last few weeks.

All were me in Spit9 vs

mtnman in his f4u and in same night redhawk in his niki (both great fights that had me working my tail off and lost both times) the great thing was that they were with in a few minutes of each other.

patches in his f4u1 we had several fights that night 1vs1 of course after about second one we started to coordinate our 1vs1's and had a blast for an hour or two. I should also note that I also had 2 great fights with semperac in between a couple of the fights with patches. Semperac is an ex-squaddie of mine and I told you Semp that it would be some awesome fights if we ever fought each other. the end result of these fights was me vs patches 3-3 and me (2) vs Semp (0) but long lasting and low and very slow fights

rud3boi in KI61 man that also was a fun fight and man he flew that ki well. fight lasted several minutes ended in a win for me but was hard fought

I have had several other 1vs1's in the MA's that were long lasting and had me on the edge of my seat holding my breath in my time in the AH.The thing is it so many that it is hard to remember them all. I usually remember the ones that I film and happened fairly recently. <salute> to all those that I have neglected to mention this is not mean to diminish how good those fights were, my memory is just too bad to remember them all.

1vs1's are not that uncommon if you put a little effort into finding them.

While I am at it though 18whisky I must appoligize for not being a little more friendly after our little series of 1vs1's. I would normally have chatted a little after such a series even after losing every time like I did that night. Between being very tired and just starting to get used to the Yak9U I was getting a little frustrated and feeling less than chatty.

A big <S> to all those that strive to create and keep the fights fun and not about getting kills.

Title: Re: 1v1s in the MA
Post by: Masherbrum on September 05, 2008, 07:52:27 PM
I suck at this game so I can only "live vicariously", while you regale us with heroic tales of gallant and glorious cartoon combat.   
Title: Re: 1v1s in the MA
Post by: RedTop on September 05, 2008, 07:58:02 PM
I suck at this game so I can only "live vicariously", while you regale us with heroic tales of gallant and glorious cartoon combat.   

:rofl :rofl :cry :rofl :rofl
Title: Re: 1v1s in the MA
Post by: JunkyII on September 06, 2008, 10:58:05 AM
Junky, do you go to the DA a lot?? Or at all?
Sometimes, I really dont like the set up fights just because honestly when in WW2 did those ever happen, also i start thinking way to hard about the different moves instead of thinking about getting on the planes six
Title: Re: 1v1s in the MA
Post by: SkyRock on September 06, 2008, 01:06:36 PM
Sometimes, I really dont like the set up fights just because honestly when in WW2 did those ever happen, also i start thinking way to hard about the different moves instead of thinking about getting on the planes six
ownage must be practiced.
Title: Re: 1v1s in the MA
Post by: mtnman on September 06, 2008, 02:58:52 PM

MtnMan in his damn slow flying frikin F4U. (he ought to be perked in that)


BTW, I do have a film of that fight, if you want to see it.  I could email it to you, or post it...

It's mostly me doing frantic dodges, hehe, and occasionally pinging you a bit.

I don't think I was quite as slow as you thought though...
Title: Re: 1v1s in the MA
Post by: JunkyII on September 08, 2008, 12:00:55 AM
ownage must be practiced.
Is there a pill for this :)
Title: Re: 1v1s in the MA
Post by: SEraider on September 08, 2008, 01:01:46 AM
Sometimes, I really don't like the set up fights just because honestly when in WW2 did those ever happen, also i start thinking way to hard about the different moves instead of thinking about getting on the planes six

The reason why I ask is because typically in the DA you can compare Apples-Apples.  That is the best barometer of your understanding of ACM's and throttle/rudder/roll work.  Different planes it is difficult to judge a true test to where u are at.  I'd say the merge is the most important thing because that is where you establish your positioning that gives you the good chance of defeating your opponent.  It is not the end-all but it is important.

In the MA it is difficult to execute a "fair" merge when there are altitude variations and 2 different planes. 

Don't get so caught up in 1 v 1 in MA because you get tunnel vision and you will lose situational awareness and then get picked by some n00b.
Title: Re: 1v1s in the MA
Post by: ColKLink on September 08, 2008, 01:06:42 AM
So there I am, at 13k in my 190 circling a enemy base.....look down on the runway, and much to my suprise, a p-38 rolling.....Immediatly I think, " I can finally kill pawz..." I dive in,....and do.  the end :) :devil :mad: :eek: :furious :salute :rock
Title: Re: 1v1s in the MA
Post by: LilMak on September 08, 2008, 06:06:26 AM
RedTop in a Jug vs Jug.
I still remember those few fights we had. Truly fun stuff. 71st it a top notch crew and, if my squad ever throws me out, I'll be signing up with that group.

MtnMan, his wingman and I had some great ones in F4Us a while back.
Big <S> to the Ensign Eliminators. I managed to bring down his wingman but my blue plane was shredded (A couple times) by MtnMan after a good slow turn battle.

AKdogg in his F4U-1 vs my -1A
My arse still hurts from the whuppins I've taken from him on numerous occasions. Don't think I'll ever be as good as him or even come close. Honerable pilot and fun the take whuppins from.

LippyCH in a 262 of all things vs my -D40.
That was an interesting fight. He caught me way off guard when he decided to turn fight my jug after he saddled up on me. I woke up in the tower thinking...WTF?!? Think I lost that fight because I was in denial that a 262 would even attempt such a thing.  :confused:

I can think of some other fights where I can't remember the names, a couple guys in Ki-61s vs my jug or hog, I had a few good ones about a month ago against a gentleman in his 109-G6 vs my -D40, Couple 38 vs -D40 and even the occasional spit. There are still some great fights to be had in the MAs. They come much less often than they should but they're what keeps me logging on every night.
Title: Re: 1v1s in the MA
Post by: mechanic on September 08, 2008, 01:19:24 PM
So there I am, at 13k in my 190 circling a enemy base.....look down on the runway, and much to my suprise, a p-38 rolling.....Immediatly I think, " I can finally kill pawz..." I dive in,....and do.  the end :) :devil :mad: :eek: :furious :salute :rock



haha  :rofl
Title: Re: 1v1s in the MA
Post by: Shifty on September 08, 2008, 01:28:31 PM
I had a great one just last month against Sector95, he was in a PonyB,and I was in a 38.  :aok
Title: Re: 1v1s in the MA
Post by: RedTop on September 09, 2008, 05:46:14 PM
BTW, I do have a film of that fight, if you want to see it.  I could email it to you, or post it...

It's mostly me doing frantic dodges, hehe, and occasionally pinging you a bit.

I don't think I was quite as slow as you thought though...

That would be fine....ill pm ya email....love to have that.
Title: Re: 1v1s in the MA
Post by: Pawz on September 11, 2008, 09:22:30 PM
So there I am, at 13k in my 190 circling a enemy base.....look down on the runway, and much to my suprise, a p-38 rolling.....Immediatly I think, " I can finally kill pawz..." I dive in,....and do.  the end :) :devil :mad: :eek: :furious :salute :rock

Your going to HELL!  :devil
Title: Re: 1v1s in the MA
Post by: TheMan on September 11, 2008, 09:28:37 PM
I know it rarely happens but i know you probably remember some of your best 1v1s in the Main Arena. These aremy personal favorites :rock

Adonai(109G-6) vs JunkyII(Ki-61) I had been chasing Adonai around Tank Town all day, I almost got a pick when he noticed me closing on his six and he reversed back. I called off allthe friendlys around me and it seemed like he did too. I was still pretty newb when it came to ACM at the time and he made me end up stalling out in a vertical fight, he PW me and i bailed due to other enemy starting to engage. I learned that throttle control helps with turning a ton, all about how you want to make your nose go.

Yenny(109K-4) vs JunkyII(Ki-61) This was pure 1v1 when I went bi for a bit,oops I mean bish :D Co-Alt Co-E, we started looping over and I ended up getting alil bit of gun on him and shot off something essential so it was just a matter of time. This fight made me think maybe the Ki can climb with the 109s under 5-8k.

Teflonn(F4U-1) vs JunkyII(Ki-61) Great Fight. I was picking at him but he was reversing really well, he actually had my six for a bit but I started to spiral climb which worked like a charm. He became target fixated and lost alot of E. I rudder turn back on him and got his six,acouple of those cowl cannons will knock down any plane fast :D

Joker2(F4U-1A) vs JunkyII(Ki-61) This fight I had to work Joker over for by taunting him on 200(Joker i think 200 is your weakness hehe).I started out above him and came down throttled back looking for good shot. Of course I over shoot and we get to turning. I try to use the same tactic I used against Teflonn which was working but Joker nosed down alil faster, I was going too slow and had not enough flaps out and went into a stall below 1000ft. I barely got out and my SA went to hell, I had no clue where he was till it was too late. I didnt try to run but i did try getting the over shoot by doing something I call "Waving my Rudder"Pretty much i just rudder and slight turn alil to slow me down a ton a try to get lucky, from behind you can see my rudder going pretty crazy :)

DaveyJ(P-38L) vs JunkyII(La-5FN) This was just a good fight with a good friend. I won due to a mistake by Davey which seemed like he wasnt throttled up, but we ended up looping with me being the victor after i got my flaps down :)

Share some of your fights or give info on tactics you can use 1v1plz :pray
The Absolute Best fight I Have Ever Had In Ma would be with dedalos , the best stick in the game. Dont remember the planes. I remember I rudder stalled and had an ICon that seemed to be red 0 on my 6 and was shooting at me. Then some weird glitch happen , I just ended up in the tower :D dunno , htc needs to fix that.
Title: Re: 1v1s in the MA
Post by: mechanic on September 11, 2008, 09:37:04 PM
If i was going to make a list of top 5 one on one pilots that i have fought dedalos would be on it and he is still a ho tard when he wants to be  :D
Title: Re: 1v1s in the MA
Post by: AKDogg on September 11, 2008, 10:01:30 PM
If i was going to make a list of top 5 one on one pilots that i have fought dedalos would be on it and he is still a ho tard when he wants to be  :D

We all ho at 1 point in time. hehehehe

I fought Dedalos the other night in the MA.  We both are about =.  I killed him, he killed me, etc.. ,lol.  In fact the last fight we killed eachother.  We both aquired the same space.  He did die first though, hehehehe.   :salute
Title: Re: 1v1s in the MA
Post by: LaFever on September 11, 2008, 11:06:14 PM
Two good fights vs Greebo: First one was my P47D25 vs his F6F. I had initial E advantage but slowly lost it and extended out. Second was my N1K vs his (you guessed it) F6F. He somehow turned a close one circle fight into a two circle. He was fighting for separation from me, I wanted more separation from his CV. I performed a "slick" egress only to find him just 600 back chopping my wing off.  :furious

Lost a good vertical fight to Agent 360s 109K4 in a P47N.

Tracked Steve down at the wavetops in a lightweight P47D25. Got into a very slow rolling scissors with full flaps and lots of stall buffet. He eventually stalled and splashed in. 10 seconds later he's on 200 apologizing for not providing a decent fight!  :confused:  Graceful way to accept the (rare) defeat  :salute

4-5 minutes of slow, low circling with Saxman's F4U-1D was interesting, unfortunately a friendly came by and introduced him to the concept of "flammable explosives" leaving me only to watch the debris fall 5 feet to terra firma and suddenly realize my FM2 still had one more notch of flaps to give  :uhoh
Title: Re: 1v1s in the MA
Post by: mechanic on September 11, 2008, 11:31:15 PM
We all ho at 1 point in time. hehehehe

I fought Dedalos the other night in the MA.  We both are about =.  I killed him, he killed me, etc.. ,lol.  In fact the last fight we killed eachother.  We both aquired the same space.  He did die first though, hehehehe.   :salute


well if you want to bump him off my list i should be back in a week and would love a few fights in the DA. You would need to fight me 300 times and beat me 50% or more to claim his spot :D
Title: Re: 1v1s in the MA
Post by: AKDogg on September 12, 2008, 04:59:06 AM
I could careless about any list.  I follow the philosphy, there is always someone better then u.  What that means is pilot A beats pilot B and at anytime pilot B can be pilot A.  There are alot of good pilots in the game.  It to difficult to put anyone of them on a list and in any order.

U have pilots that are masters of the 1 vs 1.  But those same pilots may lose in a 2 on 1 or even a 2 on 2 situation because they don't have the SA or they just don't have the proper skill to deal with that situation.  Does that make them stink?  Absolutely not.  Everyone is good in there own way and that is the reason I say it to hard to say who the best is or create any list.

Dedalos is a good stick.  I had a great time and actually had challenge on my hands.
 :salute
Title: Re: 1v1s in the MA
Post by: Tr1gg22 on September 12, 2008, 11:18:01 AM
1 vs 1's happen all the time unless u are always in the middle of a furball :) If u want some good 1 on 1s look in other places besides the darbar that goes across the map !!S!! I have 2 many to list just 1 :salute
Title: Re: 1v1s in the MA
Post by: dedalos on September 15, 2008, 08:15:02 AM
If i was going to make a list of top 5 one on one pilots that i have fought dedalos would be on it and he is still a ho tard when he wants to be  :D

Hey, I watch the History channel. It was a valid tactic in WWII and any good pilot would voluntarily put his head in front of a few 50cals or 20mms and hope for the best.  What could possibly go wrong  :O.  Just letting you know   :rofl
Title: Re: 1v1s in the MA
Post by: mechanic on September 15, 2008, 04:35:11 PM
 :D


I think AKDogg VS Dedalos would be a good match to see.

Any chance of putting those words into practice Dogg? Dedalos is really in the top 10 duelers of our time, I would be interested to see if you could beat him even once in a co-alt Da merge.

Title: Re: 1v1s in the MA
Post by: AKDogg on September 15, 2008, 04:44:46 PM
We alrdy did.  We about =.
Title: Re: 1v1s in the MA
Post by: SkyRock on September 15, 2008, 04:52:02 PM
We alrdy did.  We about =.
about on which side?   :devil
Title: Re: 1v1s in the MA
Post by: AKDogg on September 15, 2008, 04:53:12 PM
Well, I think we fought 6 times each winning 3.
Title: Re: 1v1s in the MA
Post by: scot12b on September 15, 2008, 04:54:05 PM
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Title: Re: 1v1s in the MA
Post by: SkyRock on September 15, 2008, 04:55:15 PM
Well, I think we fought 6 times each winning 3.
then that would be =, unless one of yas was getting lucky and knew it.



 :noid
Title: Re: 1v1s in the MA
Post by: mechanic on September 15, 2008, 04:58:09 PM
Was this a DA fight setup co-alt co-E same loadout etc etc? I'm not doubting your skill dogg, I know you're a deamon in that hog, but im sure dedalos has a slight upper hand in equal dueling between the two of you, I would love to be proved wrong and whatever the result im sure you would both have fun.
Title: Re: 1v1s in the MA
Post by: dedalos on September 16, 2008, 11:23:53 AM
We alrdy did.  We about =.

I'd say only one fight might have been on equal terms.  You had alt on all and the first 1 or 2 times I was in a 202.  If that thing had guns the equal sign might have been missing  ;)
Title: Re: 1v1s in the MA
Post by: Coronado on September 21, 2008, 08:31:34 PM
My favorite 3.....SirLoin, Lambo,Cobia38. Isn't it funny how after the merge, you look back to see their first move and can tell right away "This is gonna be goooood!"?
Title: Re: 1v1s in the MA
Post by: fudgums on September 21, 2008, 08:36:01 PM
me and 1plus had some good fights in the MA

109 vs 39 must of the time
Title: Re: 1v1s in the MA
Post by: dedalos on September 21, 2008, 11:01:51 PM
My favorite 3.....SirLoin, Lambo,Cobia38. Isn't it funny how after the merge, you look back to see their first move and can tell right away "This is gonna be goooood!"?

Yeah! Last time I fought SirLoin he was in a 0.  Cant remember what I was in ( i think a g2 ) but when I saw the zero I thought "this is going to be goooood".  We merged and he went straight, took out two filed guns, and I got the proxy  :rofl