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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Bodhi on September 11, 2008, 01:08:06 PM
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This Raptor came through the other day and I was able to snap a few shots... the funny light spots are flash reflections from the fence....
(http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u191/bodhi83/DSC02442.jpg)
(http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u191/bodhi83/DSC02441.jpg)
(http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u191/bodhi83/DSC02443.jpg)
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Great shots!
Anyone know why the canopy is that orange hue?
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Nice shots, but how does the fence cause those reflections?
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It has to do with the canopy being inlaid with Gold film to prevent elcetromagnetic radiation harming the contents is the way it was explained to me.
I want to know what the Green Looking Panel is.
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Nice shots, but how does the fence cause those reflections?
The camera is a cheap Sony, and the flash and lens are really close to the chain links when I take the photos.
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A couple I took at the EAA
(http://www.derstuhl.net/ryan/eaa/print_pics/F22-2_920_96dpi.jpg)
(http://www.derstuhl.net/ryan/eaa/print_pics/P38_P51_F22_960_96dpi.jpg)
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I want to know what the Green Looking Panel is.
bondo :D
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:rofl
bondo :D
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Last year before an airshow we had a Mustang and an F-22 flying tandem and doing circles around the downtown area. But I must say, had a P-38 also been with them, it would have been that much better. :salute
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Sweet, errr, have to admit I've stolen a copy of the 38, 51 and 22 together.... ;)
Thanks for posting them,
<S>
Wurzel
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I want to know what the Green Looking Panel is.
Probably some sort of materials test. Notice it is also on the top leading edge of the wing?
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Great shots!
Anyone know why the canopy is that orange hue?
Actually the gold tint is there to reflect microwave energy, in order to minimize radar reflection. I don't work over there any more, but the F-16's canopy, made by TEXSTAR Plastics here in Grand Prarie, used a similar gold film to minimize microwave transfer thru the canopy. I'm guessing that TEXSTAR makes the F-22 canopy as well, and that the gold film is there for the same reason.
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Probably some sort of materials test. Notice it is also on the top leading edge of the wing?
I don't think so. That's an operational fighter out of Langley. It's highly unlikely they'd be carrying out a materials test. Actually, it looks like the protective film used on new parts prior to painting, but that doesn't explain the weird reflectivity in the photo.
Bodhi, did the green patches look that bright in person?
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Yeah I meant the green patches too..
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bondo :D
aaww, DUDE!!!! that just ain't right!!
:rofl :rofl
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Yeah I meant the green patches too..
That might be something they put on to block out some kind of sensitive data-such as what unit this plane's assigned to, or maybe some kind of aperture or port that is classified...?
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I don't think so. That's an operational fighter out of Langley. It's highly unlikely they'd be carrying out a materials test. Actually, it looks like the protective film used on new parts prior to painting, but that doesn't explain the weird reflectivity in the photo.
Bodhi, did the green patches look that bright in person?
Langley? Thats Ft Walton Beach! (I think)... Pensacola runs tests on these planes all the time. I have sent them many a CADD Tech... of course they never speak of such things... :noid
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Yes, they looked to be that green.
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Thank you Bodhi nice picks sir :salute
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Langley? Thats Ft Walton Beach! (I think)... Pensacola runs tests on these planes all the time. I have sent them many a CADD Tech... of course they never speak of such things... :noid
FF stands for First Fighter Group out of Langley AFB, just outside of Washington DC.
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I see. I see these planes all the time all over the panhandle down south. I think between Dothan and Panama City and also out over the ocean the Raptors are always doing some sort of exercise or another. I know someone that does comms training at Eglin that can get me pretty close to the planes but I dont know how close. Its not a P51 so I have never cared. :D
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That might be something they put on to block out some kind of sensitive data-such as what unit this plane's assigned to, or maybe some kind of aperture or port that is classified...?
Hmm.. But the leading edges have it too..
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Hmm.. But the leading edges have it too..
possibly some sort of ident. lighting?
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Hmm.. But the leading edges have it too..
My only answer to that would be that there's some kind of special new something there...Maybe, a system that pumps ionized gas over the wings, defeating radar waves??? I don't know.
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It's a protective film cover for a commercial decal. Probably STP, M&M's, or Midas.
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It's a protective film cover for a commercial decal. Probably STP, M&M's, or Midas.
LOL
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Its a secret panel that covers the weather control systems :noid
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That is bronze coating on the canopy. Helps with sun glare and microwave energy. Cars that have that coating like the Lincoln Mark series have problems with radar detectors not detecting police radar through the windshield.
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I don't think it would be Pensacola, since thats a navy Aviation installation, and somewhat west of Ft Walton Beach.
You probably mean Eglin AFB. big test center, and Ft Walton Beach is right outside the gate.
Langley? Thats Ft Walton Beach! (I think)... Pensacola runs tests on these planes all the time. I have sent them many a CADD Tech... of course they never speak of such things... :noid
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My only answer to that would be that there's some kind of special new something there...Maybe, a system that pumps ionized gas over the wings, defeating radar waves??? I don't know.
a cloaking device!!!!
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FF stands for First Fighter Group out of Langley AFB, just outside of Washington DC.
Well if you want to consider Hampton Virginia "just outside of Washington DC"......OK. It's about 180 miles or so from DC.
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a cloaking device!!!!
Holy crap, the Romulans :noid
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That is bronze coating on the canopy. Helps with sun glare and microwave energy. Cars that have that coating like the Lincoln Mark series have problems with radar detectors not detecting police radar through the windshield.
Like I said Buzzard, it's gold. I'm pretty sure TEXSTAR still makes canopies for the guys in Fort Worth. They did when I worked on the F-16. If you're curious, research the HAVE GLASS program.
You're right about the car windshields. The coating has the same effect on police radars... bad for your detector.
The location of the green patch forward of the canopy suggests it's one of the 30+ antennas for the AN/ALR-94 Passive Receiver System. In fact, I'd say all the green patches in the photos are antennas for this system. Sorry, no cloaking device, death ray projector, etc. I could be a soft ice cream dispenser though.
(http://img110.imageshack.us/img110/5485/raptorassemblygu6.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)
This should entertain you guys:
http://www.f22fighter.com/AffordableStealth.pdf
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a cloaking device!!!!
LOL!!!!
Nah, I was actually thinking of this:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plasma_stealth (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plasma_stealth)
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Like I said Buzzard, it's gold. I'm pretty sure TEXSTAR still makes canopies for the guys in Fort Worth. They did when I worked on the F-16. If you're curious, research the HAVE GLASS program.
You're right about the car windshields. The coating has the same effect on police radars... bad for your detector.
The location of the green patch forward of the canopy suggests it's one of the 30+ antennas for the AN/ALR-94 Passive Receiver System. In fact, I'd say all the green patches in the photos are antennas for this system. Sorry, no cloaking device, death ray projector, etc. I could be a soft ice cream dispenser though.
(http://img110.imageshack.us/img110/5485/raptorassemblygu6.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)
This should entertain you guys:
http://www.f22fighter.com/AffordableStealth.pdf
remote mounted beer cooler?
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Like I said Buzzard, it's gold. I'm pretty sure TEXSTAR still makes canopies for the guys in Fort Worth. They did when I worked on the F-16. If you're curious, research the HAVE GLASS program.
You're right about the car windshields. The coating has the same effect on police radars... bad for your detector.
The location of the green patch forward of the canopy suggests it's one of the 30+ antennas for the AN/ALR-94 Passive Receiver System. In fact, I'd say all the green patches in the photos are antennas for this system. Sorry, no cloaking device, death ray projector, etc. I could be a soft ice cream dispenser though.
(http://img110.imageshack.us/img110/5485/raptorassemblygu6.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)
This should entertain you guys:
http://www.f22fighter.com/AffordableStealth.pdf
this one may be set up for time travel. when they're tsargeted, the computer registers it, and activates the flux capacitor located just in front of the canopy, which emits a charge out of the wing ports. the pilot then warps around onto the six of the bogie, faster than a spixteen, and shoots him down. he then has to listen on 200 to all the cheater accusations :D :rofl :noid
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Actually stealth fighters fight much the same way that submarines have for decades.... passively.
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a cloaking device!!!!
I saw this pic before somewhere, and the caption read:
"The USAF test out new invisibot technology used by some players in the popular Aces High II WWII combat flight simulator."
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At a guess, antenna array is covered. Would guess it's phased array ..they dont want yas to see distance and spacing.
.. no idea why they would cover wing leading edges unless to prevent damage to material from sand, bugs, etc.
-GE aka Frank (similar stuff on the F4-G long ago)
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At a guess, antenna array is covered. Would guess it's phased array ..they dont want yas to see distance and spacing.
.. no idea why they would cover wing leading edges unless to prevent damage to material from sand, bugs, etc.
-GE aka Frank (similar stuff on the F4-G long ago)
Active System is phased array. That's part of the passive system. And it's not the leading edge, it's a narrow strip behind the LE flaps.
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Active System is phased array. That's part of the passive system. And it's not the leading edge, it's a narrow strip behind the LE flaps.
howbout that?
-GE (evil ex-ECM troop grin)
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Well if you want to consider Hampton Virginia "just outside of Washington DC"......OK. It's about 180 miles or so from DC.
Little closer to DC than Eglin though..don't ya think?
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Where the green is on the LE it almost looks as if the aircraft has slats extended, which would bring me to think it's some sort of primer and that panel may well be a new part awaiting finishing.
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Unidirectional radiation absorption materials test.
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howbout that?
-GE (evil ex-ECM troop grin)
Here's a shot of the AN/APG-77 active system Grayeagle, because you get it.
(http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/1584/apg771ajs5.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)
1500 transceivers making the beam steerable within tens of nanoseconds. Pretty Slick :aok
The green patches are some of the antennas for the AN/ALR-94 passive system.
GE, back in your Wild Weasel days, did you ever work with EF-111's? I did some work with those when I was fresh out of school.
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I don't see any raptors!
(http://www.wideopenwest.com/~tjnagridge/chet/images/raptors.jpg)
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LOL .. never worked on the 111's.
When I was in Thailand, they ran a lil exercise against our F-4's out of Udorn ..111's went thru the F-4 formation before the F-4's knew they were in the area .. ROFL.. from back to front ..then peeled away left and right.
About the most perfect way of sayin 'Bang, yer DEAD' there is :)
(heard about it from some of the younger pilots that were there in a big party that nite ..there was always a big party somewhere :)
And ya . .phased array is active.
Interestingly enough ..it works for jammin also -evil grin-
(ECM rule #1: you dont jam the radar ..you jam the reciever)
another rule: a 500lb Mk 82 thru the dish *will* jam any ground radar ..aka 'active jamming' :)
-GE (and a 'G' can put a mk 82 thru a dish from amazingly far out.. whether it's on or not)
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They put green reflective paint on the birds so the air controllers can find them. ;)