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Title: Vote by color??
Post by: Dago on October 05, 2008, 12:45:05 PM
Just read another article stating that blacks are voting for Obama based on race.  How stupid can some people be?  Don't consider the person, don't consider his accomplisments or lack thereof, don't look at his history, just vote based on the color of his skin.

Stupidity at work.

If that is how it should be done then, all whites should be voting for McCain.

Just applying the same rules.
Title: Re: Vote by color??
Post by: lazs2 on October 05, 2008, 12:52:09 PM
nope.. to be fair.. if whites were just as racist they would only be voting for Mccain by 95%

You really have to hate to vote based on color 95%

lazs
Title: Re: Vote by color??
Post by: eskimo2 on October 05, 2008, 01:01:45 PM
Just read another article stating that blacks are voting for Obama based on race.  How stupid can some people be?  Don't consider the person, don't consider his accomplisments or lack thereof, don't look at his history, just vote based on the color of his skin.

Stupidity at work.

If that is how it should be done then, all whites should be voting for McCain.

Just applying the same rules.

All blacks are not voting for Obama because he is black.  Some, perhaps many, are/will.  And yes, most of them are pretty stupid for selecting him based on one trait.  Blacks tend to vote Democrat; if Obama was white he would still have the majority of black votes.

Many white Democrats will not vote for Obama because he is black.  Likewise, most of them are pretty stupid for selecting him based on one trait.

Fighting stupidity with stupidity is stupid.
Title: Re: Vote by color??
Post by: Dago on October 05, 2008, 01:25:09 PM
Yeah, sure, color has nothing to do with it, not even in Gary IN where the high schools were taking the black students out of school and getting them registered to vote this year.  First time ever the black teachers did that with their black students.  I am sure it had nothing to do with a black man running for president for the first time.   :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Vote by color??
Post by: BnZ on October 05, 2008, 01:26:01 PM


Many white Democrats will not vote for Obama because he is black.  Likewise, most of them are pretty stupid for selecting him based on one trait.



Incorrect. I dislike many of Hillary Clinton's policies, yet, for obvious reasons I consider it highly unlikely she would ever be directly anti-White.

Whereas Obama is a man with a Black father who bailed on his White mother and who ended up being largely raised by his White grandparents. This man grows up to write a book which muses wistfully on said deadbeat dad and publicly criticize his own grandma for her fear of the Black criminal class. Hmmm....
Title: Re: Vote by color??
Post by: Gunthr on October 05, 2008, 01:31:14 PM
This is bad for the country. 

The root cause of the financial crisis in our country is liberal attempts to apply AFFIRMATIVE ACTION to the financial world.  Now we are in danger of spreading this fallacy to the health insurance world.

Thanks Democrats. 
Title: Re: Vote by color??
Post by: AKIron on October 05, 2008, 01:33:12 PM
Democrats want socialism/communism, plain and simple.
Title: Re: Vote by color??
Post by: AquaShrimp on October 05, 2008, 01:41:21 PM
I think votes should be based on IQ.  Normal IQ = 1 vote.  Each standard deviation above 1 should equal 5 votes.
Title: Re: Vote by color??
Post by: Hungry on October 05, 2008, 01:47:08 PM
Hmmm, If I were black could I resist the temptation to vote for perhaps an uqualified canidate and try and set a precedent and get the first black president elected.

Title: Re: Vote by color??
Post by: AKIron on October 05, 2008, 01:47:23 PM
I think votes should be based on IQ.  Normal IQ = 1 vote.  Each standard deviation above 1 should equal 5 votes.

I'm sure there are many in acadamecia who share your opinion, assuming they apply the standard for determining IQ of course. I think those privileged few in the Soviet Union also shared your view.
Title: Re: Vote by color??
Post by: john9001 on October 05, 2008, 02:43:03 PM
95% of negros always vote democratic anyway, so this not some rush to obama because he is only half white.
Title: Re: Vote by color??
Post by: Fangio on October 05, 2008, 02:53:53 PM
If Obama were white we would have never heard of him.   Obama has the Democratic nomination because he is black.   

Sure, there are lots of other reasons he is the Democratic nominee.  He is very intelligent, articulate and charismatic. HE knows how to appeal to a given groups emotions and make them fanatically believe in a concept without even defining said concept.  Thus the "Hope" and "Change" that has the Democratic base all googly eyed but unable to explain why.

But if he were not black, he would never have gotten the opportunity to get to where he is today.  At least not by this age.

I think 50% or more of blacks will vote Obama purely because he is black.

Then again....  plenty of white folks will vote McCain because they believe that if they do not OBL and Al-Q will be staging a D-Day type amphibious assault on the east coast of the US within weeks.  Stupidity is color blind.



Fang

Title: Re: Vote by color??
Post by: lyric1 on October 05, 2008, 02:56:00 PM
Democrats want socialism/communism, plain and simple.
Dems got beat to the punch.  http://money.cnn.com/2008/10/03/news/economy/house_friday_bailout/index.htm?postversion=2008100309
Title: Re: Vote by color??
Post by: BnZ on October 05, 2008, 03:30:10 PM
I'm sure there are many in acadamecia who share your opinion, assuming they apply the standard for determining IQ of course. I think those privileged few in the Soviet Union also shared your view.

Be interesting to see what came of something like this. High-IQ people occupy the whole range of ideological positions like everyone else, so quite possibly the result wouldn't be all that much different.
Title: Re: Vote by color??
Post by: Masherbrum on October 05, 2008, 03:31:35 PM
I think votes should be based on IQ.  Normal IQ = 1 vote.  Each standard deviation above 1 should equal 5 votes.

My Aunt graduated from Rutgers in 1965 with a Masters in Chemistry.   When it comes to common sense, she's worse than a sack of hammers.   

Title: Re: Vote by color??
Post by: Dago on October 05, 2008, 04:05:47 PM
95% of negros always vote democratic anyway, so this not some rush to obama because he is only half white.

95% of voting Negros may vote democratic, but what percentage of the black population will be voting this election for the first time only because a black is running?

What if 95% of whites voted Republican?   There wouldn't be a democratic party.  Sadly, there aren't that many smart people in the white race.
Title: Re: Vote by color??
Post by: Hornet33 on October 05, 2008, 04:23:57 PM
My Aunt graduated from Rutgers in 1965 with a Masters in Chemistry.   When it comes to common sense, she's worse than a sack of hammers.   



I have found that to be the norm of most people with higher education (well anyone who went to college right out of high school and never held a real working job EVER in their lives). Book smarts don't mean a damn thing out here in the real world were the rubber meets the road.
Title: Re: Vote by color??
Post by: BnZ on October 05, 2008, 05:51:15 PM
I have found that to be the norm of most people with higher education (well anyone who went to college right out of high school and never held a real working job EVER in their lives). Book smarts don't mean a damn thing out here in the real world were the rubber meets the road.

Yes, there are quite a few people with book smarts who couldn't, for example, recharge the freon in their own air conditioners.

However, eggheads thinking about such abstract impracticalities as how compression/expansion of gasses will effect temperature was something that had to be done for years before anyone could have an air conditioner in the first place.

Of course, further muddying the waters is the fact that it is possible to acquire a great deal of "education" with little other than the ability to study and memorize.
Title: Re: Vote by color??
Post by: midnight Target on October 05, 2008, 06:14:09 PM
Don't you think it is a good thing for more Americans to be involved in the process?
Title: Re: Vote by color??
Post by: BnZ on October 05, 2008, 06:16:04 PM
Don't you think it is a good thing for more Americans to be involved in the process?

No.
Title: Re: Vote by color??
Post by: Toad on October 05, 2008, 06:31:39 PM
Yah gotta love the hypocrisy though.

If blacks vote for Obamessiah just because he's black...that's an accepted normal thing and it's OK.

If whites vote for McC just because he's the white guy in the race... those bassturds are RACIST!!!!


Gotta love it.
Title: Re: Vote by color??
Post by: Steve on October 05, 2008, 06:34:26 PM
nope.. to be fair.. if whites were just as racist they would only be voting for Mccain by 95%

You really have to hate to vote based on color 95%

lazs

It's true in my case.  I've had almost nothing but bad experiences with black people and would never vote for one.
Title: Re: Vote by color??
Post by: BnZ on October 05, 2008, 06:45:41 PM
It's true in my case.  I've had almost nothing but bad experiences with black people and would never vote for one.

Put Thomas Sowell against Hillary Clinton in the race for any office, I dare you. See who this "racist" votes for.

Title: Re: Vote by color??
Post by: kamilyun on October 05, 2008, 07:24:04 PM
Colin Powell would have had my vote any day.  Too bad he seems to have had enough of the political world.
Title: Re: Vote by color??
Post by: E25280 on October 05, 2008, 07:35:23 PM
Don't you think it is a good thing for more Americans to be involved in the process?
If they were truly involved, i.e. understood the issues and could see through all the typical political BS of saying whatever it takes to get elected than doing something completely different once in office, I would say it is a good thing.

Sadly, registering to vote and voting does not necessarily equate to being well educated on what is at stake.
Title: Re: Vote by color??
Post by: Anaxogoras on October 05, 2008, 07:40:51 PM
I don't like identity politics, but I sure as heck can understand why African Americans are going to turn out in droves to vote for Obama.  If you can't see their point of view god help ya.
Title: Re: Vote by color??
Post by: DrDea on October 05, 2008, 07:42:12 PM
95% of voting Negros may vote democratic, but what percentage of the black population will be voting this election for the first time only because a black is running?

What if 95% of whites voted Republican?   There wouldn't be a democratic party.  Sadly, there aren't that many smart people in the white race.

  See this is just the kind of stupidity that causes all the issues.Be a tool and vote party.Im voteing for the person.Dont really care what party there in.
Title: Re: Vote by color??
Post by: RedTop on October 05, 2008, 08:00:23 PM
Colin Powell would have had my vote any day.  Too bad he seems to have had enough of the political world.

And J.C Watts mine
Title: Re: Vote by color??
Post by: SD67 on October 05, 2008, 09:10:52 PM
The up side of course is that a larger chunk of the poorly educated white folk who would normally vote democrat will probably now vote Republican simply because the democrat candidate is not white.
Here's another question, why cannot the servicemen overseas place absentee votes?
Title: Re: Vote by color??
Post by: BnZ on October 05, 2008, 09:53:12 PM
I don't like identity politics, but I sure as heck can understand why African Americans are going to turn out in droves to vote for Obama.  If you can't see their point of view god help ya.

I quite understand Anax, and don't particularly blame them. God help YOU if you are so self-hating you think it is eeeeeeeeeeevvvvvvvvillllll for White folks to operate on the same principle though.
Title: Re: Vote by color??
Post by: RedTop on October 05, 2008, 09:59:05 PM
I don't like identity politics, but I sure as heck can understand why African Americans are going to turn out in droves to vote for Obama.  If you can't see their point of view god help ya.

What is thier point of view? I'd be interested in hearing just wth is the issue in this day and age.
Title: Re: Vote by color??
Post by: BnZ on October 05, 2008, 10:01:37 PM
The prospect of having either candidate in the White House is so terrifying that I can't really blame folks who pick the one who looks like them.
Title: Re: Vote by color??
Post by: DMBEAR on October 05, 2008, 10:02:04 PM
Isn't his mom white?  Oh that's right, Oprah's endorsement  makes him Onyx. :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Vote by color??
Post by: Yeager on October 05, 2008, 10:34:39 PM
poor obama.  He is being tooled by the very people that proclaim their allegiance to him, and I have a sneaky suspicion he knows it.
Title: Re: Vote by color??
Post by: Dago on October 05, 2008, 10:36:54 PM
What is their point of view? I'd be interested in hearing just what is the issue in this day and age.

Some fear the elimination of affirmative action, limits on welfare and food stamps, being forced to accept responsibility for their own lives.   :cry  Stuff like that.   They are hoping a black president will prevent them being forced into having to work a full time job, pay for their own food, and not get treated with the kids gloves currently required by all the PC run-amok liberals who will surely destroy the country in the long run.

Or something like that.  :furious
Title: Re: Vote by color??
Post by: mietla on October 05, 2008, 10:52:52 PM
don't you think women vote on gender or "feelings"?
Title: Re: Vote by color??
Post by: drdeathx on October 06, 2008, 04:51:51 AM
What  a racists view dego. As many blacks that vote for Obama, Mccain will have more whites voting for him because Obama is black(Which is not true). The actual ratio may finally balance itself out so it will probably be somewhat of a wash. Why bother making a comment.

ALL MEDIA AND POLLS SHOW THIS WILL REALLY BE A NON ISSUE IN THIS ELECTION.


I am not sure how to read your opinion. At 1st it seems like you think this is wrong but by your last comment it looks like you are bitter/ If a black wants to vote for Obama because he/she thinks black president will be best for their race or nationality, so be it. Let them. I don't think there is mass people buying into this subject. How many voters vote democratic just because they are democrat or vise versa/ At the end of the day it all balances out.


I just wonder if George Lopez runs someday. Get the drift.
Title: Re: Vote by color??
Post by: drdeathx on October 06, 2008, 04:53:01 AM
Opps didn't read degos last reply. YOU ARE A BIGGOT.
Title: Re: Vote by color??
Post by: drdeathx on October 06, 2008, 04:56:49 AM
oooH AND 1 MORE THING DEGO,,, I would think you are Italian by your name.



Did you know that thousands of years ago Italians had Blonde hair and blue eyes? Yes they did... Its a fact.... The Moore's invaded Italy and bred with the Cicilians.......... the Moore's were black thus giving Italians Dark skin and dark hair sooo.... if you are Italian you must vote for OBAMA.
Title: Re: Vote by color??
Post by: drdeathx on October 06, 2008, 05:01:34 AM
Most of you should be ashamed and are uneducated idiots. I am undecided in this election but i am sure of 1 thing... Obama has more intellegence and class than your idiot comments so you kinda made my mind up. Im voting for OBAMA because he is black and I'm white so hehehehe. I will start a trend.
Title: Re: Vote by color??
Post by: Shuffler on October 06, 2008, 05:13:22 AM
Sad situation...

They are even running ads saying that if you are not currently incarcerated you may vote.

Used to be that if you had been incarcerated you lost your voting rights.

I believe that folks being financially supported by the government should not be able to vote either. A candidate can play to that crowd by offering more money.... buying votes.
Title: Re: Vote by color??
Post by: lyric1 on October 06, 2008, 07:03:09 AM
Sad situation...


I believe that folks being financially supported by the government should not be able to vote either. A candidate can play to that crowd by offering more money.... buying votes.
You just pissed most of Wall Street off then.
Title: Re: Vote by color??
Post by: Mojava on October 06, 2008, 08:36:36 AM
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why cannot the servicemen overseas place absentee votes

  They can and do, http://electioncenter.military.com/2008/08/overseas-troops.html (http://electioncenter.military.com/2008/08/overseas-troops.html)


Title: Re: Vote by color??
Post by: texasmom on October 06, 2008, 08:38:36 AM
Hm. I thought this was going to be about color-coded ballots ~ something to do with preventing hanging chads or whatnot. *poof*
Title: Re: Vote by color??
Post by: Hornet33 on October 06, 2008, 09:09:48 AM
Had a black kid walk into the bar the Friday night wearing an Obama 2008 t-shirt. He ended up sitting next to me and when I asked him why he was supporting Obama he flat out told me, "Because we need a black President." When I further asked him about Obamas policies and stances on issues he told me, "I don't care about any of that crap, he's black so I'm voting for him." Kid was maybe 22-24 years old. Young Navy guy that I've seen in there a bunch of times. Kid doesn't know or care about Obamas voting record, stances on any issues, nothing, but he's black so he's voting for him.

I think that's the only reason why many black people will vote for him. They don't know or even care about anything other than he's black and "we need a black President"   Really sad that the people that will decide our collective future don't even take the time to try and understand what's at stake here. I felt like I was talking to a brick wall with that kid. His girlfriend wasn't much better. She told me, "I don't agree with alot of his stances on the issues but he's black so I have to vote for him."  Have to?? Makes you wonder what goes on in peoples heads.
Title: Re: Vote by color??
Post by: Anaxogoras on October 06, 2008, 09:38:06 AM
I quite understand Anax, and don't particularly blame them. God help YOU if you are so self-hating you think it is eeeeeeeeeeevvvvvvvvillllll for White folks to operate on the same principle though.

Hehe, I reserve the word "evil" for those who actually accomplish something. ;)

I would agree that there's no difference between a white person voting along racial lines vs a black person doing the same if it weren't for our history of slavery and apartheid.  You can't look at a voter's choice in a bubble.

Fwiw, I don't endorse voting out of racial resentment, I am simply describing things as they are.
Title: Re: Vote by color??
Post by: Shane on October 06, 2008, 09:41:19 AM
Had a kid walk into the bar the Friday night wearing an McCain 2008 t-shirt. He ended up sitting next to me and when I asked him why he was supporting McCain he flat out told me, "Because we need a Republican President." When I further asked him about McCain's policies and stances on issues he told me, "I don't care about any of that crap, he's Republican so I'm voting for him." Kid was maybe 22-24 years old. Young Navy guy that I've seen in there a bunch of times. Kid doesn't know or care about McCain's voting record, stances on any issues, nothing, but he's Republican so he's voting for him.


fixed

 :noid
Title: Re: Vote by color??
Post by: Hornet33 on October 06, 2008, 09:46:02 AM
fixed

 :noid

Not even close, but keep trying.

I'm a registered independant and base my vote of the facts. The fact that Obama's voting record consitently goes against everything I believe is why I'm not voting for him.
Title: Re: Vote by color??
Post by: bongaroo on October 06, 2008, 09:48:51 AM
This is bad for the country. 

The root cause of the financial crisis in our country is liberal attempts to apply AFFIRMATIVE ACTION to the financial world.  Now we are in danger of spreading this fallacy to the health insurance world.

Thanks Democrats. 

I seriously doubt our financial crisis has anything to do with affirmative action; but perhaps instead of wildly spouting rhetoric you'd like to back your statement up with some facts.

Good luck with that.
Title: Re: Vote by color??
Post by: Shane on October 06, 2008, 09:51:49 AM
Not even close, but keep trying.

I'm a registered independant and base my vote of the facts. The fact that Obama's voting record consitently goes against everything I believe is why I'm not voting for him.

I'm just saying blind, unthinking loyalty crosses politics, gender and race.

Your racial example could just as easily be flipped with "uneducated white trash" voting republican, simply because their family "has always been republican."