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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: drdeathx on October 16, 2008, 12:13:40 AM
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High five to Rooks and mostly LCA's. From my perspective we rocked Titanic Tuesday. I would say we won convincingly.
Late afternoon, Bish had taken many Vbases and an airbase on our mainland. LCA's and other Rooks aggressively took back OUR bases and proceeded to smash more of the enemies bases including an important port while other Rooks took 173. I do not want to leave any Rook not thanked but LCA's did a nice job. Lets all give them a ^5 for the haed and great teamwork! This Titanic Tuesday was the best performance and teamwork I have seen from all Rooks..... ^5 to all rooks. We dominated.
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You judge your success in AH by how many bases you take with 30+ guys on a single undefended base? :huh
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It's enough to make ya weep sometimes..... :huh
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You judge your success in AH by how many bases you take with 30+ guys on a single undefended base? :huh
:rofl
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You judge your success in AH by how many bases you take with 30+ guys on a single undefended base? :huh
Well he also believes that rank directly relates to skills. :lol
Also, Rooks working together? BLASPHEMY!!!
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Also, Rooks working together? BLASPHEMY!!!
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:lol yeah when does that happen? I keep missing the party. :furious
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High five to Rooks and mostly LCA's. From my perspective we rocked Titanic Tuesday. I would say we won convincingly.
Late afternoon, Bish had taken many Vbases and an airbase on our mainland. LCA's and other Rooks aggressively took back OUR bases and proceeded to smash more of the enemies bases including an important port while other Rooks took 173. I do not want to leave any Rook not thanked but LCA's did a nice job. Lets all give them a ^5 for the haed and great teamwork! This Titanic Tuesday was the best performance and teamwork I have seen from all Rooks..... ^5 to all rooks. We dominated.
......and one of the main reasons I don't fly on a Tuesday. Who wants to fly in a horde, or against one?
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......and one of the main reasons I don't fly on a Tuesday. Who wants to fly in a horde, or against one?
I'll fly against the Horde any day. Generally there easy kills if you can drag 2-3 away from the main group.
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You judge your success in AH by how many bases you take with 30+ guys on a single undefended base? :huh
I think it wasn't a single base, but multiple bases, one or two at a time, that elicited the original post. As to whether they were undefended, I didn't play Tuesday so I can't say. But usually everyone is disappointing if the base was truly undefended, and the LCA goes out of its way to find some resistance.
In any event, your response was undeserved because obviously the OP had fun, and that's presumably the reason we play Aces High.
Honestly the most fun I've had in this game to date was the strike on the HQ and the following 163 vulch-fest the LCA pulled off last weekend. Hilarity happened and anyone that didn't join that mission really missed out.
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Lets all give them a ^5 for the haed and great teamwork!
That misspelled word up there, "haed", please tell me that's not supposed to be head. :O
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You judge your success in AH by how many bases you take with 30+ guys on a single undefended base? :huh
Thats what I was going to say,,, but thanks for saying it.... :aok
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I think it wasn't a single base, but multiple bases, one or two at a time, that elicited the original post. As to whether they were undefended, I didn't play Tuesday so I can't say. But usually everyone is disappointing if the base was truly undefended, and the LCA goes out of its way to find some resistance.
In any event, your response was undeserved because obviously the OP had fun, and that's presumably the reason we play Aces High.
Honestly the most fun I've had in this game to date was the strike on the HQ and the following 163 vulch-fest the LCA pulled off last weekend. Hilarity happened and anyone that didn't join that mission really missed out.
I would not offer explanations to this goof. He's just a whiney purist.
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Tuesday was one of the absolute worst examples of a vulching horde fest, with an extra helping of gang banging altitude monkey pick tardedness.
On another note, is ENY disabled during Titanic Tuesday? At one point, I noticed that the Rooks had about 45 more players, but ENY was 0 for all three sides. Then on Wednesday night, I noticed that at one point we had about a 30 player advantage, but had an ENY of 23.
I realize that on TT the number of total players is larger, so the 45 player advantage may have been actually a smaller percentage of the total players then the 30 player advantage on Wednesday. But I would have expected 45 players extra to get at least some of an ENY penalty.
Just curious how it works and if the rules are different on Titanic Tuesday.
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LOL.... Nits and Bish you all got beat badly. We rolled bases throughout the entire map. Sunfan is a simplistic individual. The post was designed to recognize Rooks working as a Team. That's the objective of the game. Dah. It goes both ways sometimes. Sometimes we get beat badly but this last TT, Rooks dominated through strategy and teamwork! Again, high 5!
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High five to Rooks and mostly LCA's. From my perspective we rocked Titanic Tuesday. I would say we won convincingly.
LCA Mayhem squadron? Two guys from that squadron were in the MW arena farming perks, one would up bombers and the other one would shoot them down in an Emil. I guess hording burns the perks.
ack-ack
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Ack Ack 2 guys lol the rest of squad was bashin bases.
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You judge your success in AH by how many bases you take with 30+ guys on a single undefended base? :huh
It's AAdeath he needs his ego stroked.
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The tears being made in this thread from those that were unable to coordinate an effective defence against our spontanious and effective offence tastes sweet. :devil
^5 Rooks :aok
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Hordes are a natural ocurrence in the game, it seems. I saw plenty of rook hordelings last night, swatted several... got swatted once myself. :salute
I didn't log on til 8 AZ time, there wasn't much base taking going on. I didn't see anyone dominating. I must have missed it.
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The post was designed to recognize Rooks working as a Team. That's the objective of the game.
Hmmm... I thought the objective of the game was to have fun. Silly me.
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Ack Ack 2 guys lol the rest of squad was bashin bases.
Just shows to me that LCA is just a worthless squadron if members have to resort to farming perks in the MW because they can't gain them normally in the LW arena. I guess that's the price of being part of the hord, so many friendlies around, no perks to be gained.
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Oh noes! They won the war! :cry
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LOL.... Nits and Bish you all got beat badly. We rolled bases throughout the entire map. Sunfan is a simplistic individual. The post was designed to recognize Rooks working as a Team. That's the objective of the game. Dah. It goes both ways sometimes. Sometimes we get beat badly but this last TT, Rooks dominated through strategy and teamwork! Again, high 5!
I thought the reason to play a WW2 dogfighting game was to actually fight, not get 30 people to rush a single base. If teamwork is more your style why don't you try flying FSO. It's way more rewarding than shooting down those pesky tool shed's.
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Hordes are a natural ocurrence in the game, it seems. ...
Not really surprising. Numeric advantages count for a lot in this game, so clumps of players tend to attract more players and pretty soon it's a horde.
It seems like everyone is "looking for action". The good news is that it becomes a target rich environment. The bad news is that you may have to execute the strategic withdrawl.
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/nvm :noid
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I think that would be the ultimate AH MA duel--40 hordlings trying to take a pre-determined base via ANY means possible, (dive-bombing lancs, porking nearby bases, etc) 20-30 guys trying to defend it, mebbe 1 hour time limit :aok
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The good news is that it becomes a target rich environment.
This is one reaosn why I have mixed feelings about the horde. I thinks it's cheesey to see guys hovering around in the horde is assorted perk planes yet I like the fact that there's plenty of bad guys to shoot down.
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I don't know, just doesn't sound like a success to me. Tell me some tales of the great battles, and of the great fights and obstacles over come for such a glorious victory. Maybe throw in some heroic deeds and feats of bravery. Until I hear of such, I will just assume the real winners were those who fought against the evil lemming horde.
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That's it. HiTech, we need a new game, they finished this one!
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I can't believe rooks actually became a dominant force after how it went down 2-3 weeks ago....
Damn, Bish was all over us nits. Bastards were porking every base they could reach in under half an hour. While I was playing, I counted TWICE bish was within ten minutes of nit HQ, but they weren't able to hold that advantage, and HQ was always up again in a matter of minutes. (The first bish attack ended and was followed by a rather impressive resupply mission by the nits, involving over 12 C47's.)
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Sunfan 1 on 1 dogfights are really nice in DA(go there). The game is to win the war(take bases). Never said Rooks won it. If you guys read the post it works both ways and we get horded too. The high five was for the teamwork and organizational skills of THE LCA SQUADRON. Salute to Bish and Nights that work as a team. Rooks were extremely focused and that is that.
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This has never been a game about winning a war, at least to me. This is a game where we can put our individual virtual pilot skills to the test. You feel free to enjoy flying with 20+ green guys with you at all times. We clearly play for different reasons, and my way of playing is no better than yours, other than the fact that I can do what you do by myself.
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). The game is to win the war(take bases).
Uhhh no.
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good job on taking bases...I am sure it was truely exilerating demolishing those outhouses and toolsheds with what...20-30 of you closest friends? Maybe next time you can get a few more of your closest buddies together and actually reset the map and get a whole new crop of fields to go pluck from nobody.
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Sunfan 1 on 1 dogfights are really nice in DA(go there). The game is to win the war(take bases). Never said Rooks won it. If you guys read the post it works both ways and we get horded too. The high five was for the teamwork and organizational skills of THE LCA SQUADRON. Salute to Bish and Nights that work as a team. Rooks were extremely focused and that is that.
LOL. I went from it's enough to make ya weep, to just about spewing an entire coke on the monitor. I all of a sudden had a vision of that Monty Python skit about the "Twit competition", imagining that organized LCA attack on those sheds.
You have a good time drdeathx. You've clearly found the secret to success. Heaven knows those undefended bases can wear people out. :aok
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The game is to win the war(take bases)
The game is about Aerial Combat. Capturing bases, bombers, gv's, etc, etc, are all merely sideshows put in the game to promote Aerial Combat.
(edit: if all you are doing is hoarding up and running said hoard to undefended base after undefended base... why not just play offline then? you can take all the bases you want and nobody will try and stop ya' there either)
(edit:edit: try running your missions at the largest nme dar bar you can find. take THAT base. that would be something to post about. "we spent all night attacking the largest dar bars at nme bases we could find, and took them." THAT is the post I wanna see in here.)
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Hey, Lemming Kung-Fu works, no question about that.
Of course, it works because attrition is not on the table, because lives and airplanes are in fact free, no matter how many kamikaze buffs, jabos, and goons are sent to their doom.
The good part is, everyone wins. The defenders get to feel good because they have gotten multiple kill clubbing hordelets in a target-rich environment.
The horders get to feel good because they after sacrificing their lives and aircraft and rising again Zombie-like 14 times, on the fifteenth they take a base. Rinse, wash, repeat.
But the really cute scene from that afternoon was all the buffs coming in with one, count'em one, P-51 "escorting" them. At the same alt as the buffs. And who seemed to be hiding in the bombers defensive guns radius rather than protecting THEM, until diving out to make a pass at something and ending up with a certain P-47 on his six. Remember children, there is always a bigger alt monkey than thee lurking about.
He didn't make it home. But somehow, I'm sure he rose from the grave good as new. :devil
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The game is about Aerial Combat. Capturing bases, bombers, gv's, etc, etc, are all merely sideshows put in the game to promote Aerial Combat.(edit: if all you are doing is hoarding up and running said hoard to undefended base after undefended base... why not just play offline then? you can take all the bases you want and nobody will try and stop ya' there either)
(edit:edit: try running your missions at the largest nme dar bar you can find. take THAT base. that would be something to post about. "we spent all night attacking the largest dar bars at nme bases we could find, and took them." THAT is the post I wanna see in here.)
Is that the way it is today? Sometimes I wonder.
Since I have been on this game for the last year or so, it seems the focus is to take bases and ultimately win the war. The old vets want to keep it pure, but the newer players seem to have a different perspective. Aces High may be like everything else in the world, it all changes over time...
I really don't know which would be the better, but I do know the game will go in the direction that the masses want it to go.
Just another viewpoint.... :salute
Fred
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Like I said, if you want to test these 1 on 1 dogfight skills or more, they did make a DA in this game. The object of the map is country who takes 40% of 2 countries bases and maintains 80% of their own wins the map. You get 25 perkies for winning too as a bonus. Unless I interpret the object of this game wrong I must be real stupid. I furball all the time, do wingman fighter sweeps, pork bases, kill cv's, ect.... Sunfan you need to get 8 player back, LOL In war, many towns, airfields, warehouses, ammo factories, we not armed for attack at times. That is the object of war. To overtake a country and plan your attack. Unless all Bishops, Knights and Rooks wanted to "Dogfight", I'm sure Hi-Tec would install 1 map in the game like the DA. So that said ^5 again Rooks.
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Like I said, if you want to test these 1 on 1 dogfight skills or more, they did make a DA in this game. The object of the map is country who takes 40% of 2 countries bases and maintains 80% of their own wins the map. You get 25 perkies for winning too as a bonus. Unless I interpret the object of this game wrong I must be real stupid. I furball all the time, do wingman fighter sweeps, pork bases, kill cv's, ect.... Sunfan you need to get 8 player back, LOL In war, many towns, airfields, warehouses, ammo factories, we not armed for attack at times. That is the object of war. To overtake a country and plan your attack. Unless all Bishops, Knights and Rooks wanted to "Dogfight", I'm sure Hi-Tec would install 1 map in the game like the DA. So that said ^5 again Rooks.
What war would that be?
No one really dies. You get unlimited lives. Every base looks pretty much the same. You roll the map and get a do over.
Interesting 'war' you got there. As for your comment about being stupid, I refer you to Forrest Gump
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Is that the way it is today? Sometimes I wonder.
Since I have been on this game for the last year or so, it seems the focus is to take bases and ultimately win the war. The old vets want to keep it pure, but the newer players seem to have a different perspective. Aces High may be like everything else in the world, it all changes over time...
I really don't know which would be the better, but I do know the game will go in the direction that the masses want it to go.
Just another viewpoint.... :salute
Fred
I think every player goes through "phases" here. I think this game is one of the hardest to master and there is tons of talent out there. While players are maturing, they seek ways of gratifying themselves by joining the horde and hoping to get a lucky shot on some poor guy. I used to jump at the chance at joining NOE missions, but now sometimes they just bore me. Although I truly suck at my fighter skills, I'm getting better with practice and learning through the process while seeking that high of dominating 3 or 4 enemies with advantage. your always gonna have that "war winner" crowd, your always gonna have that toolshedder crowd and so on, its the circle of life and someday they too will get bored and start fighting the 30+ guys coming into the field.
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The AH MA is not in the least bit a realistic war-game simulation though. To get that even a little bit you have to go to the FSO or the like.
Like I say, no attrition. Most of these horde missions that actually meet equal resistance take casualties in numbers that make Black Thursday look like a milk-run.
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LOL.... Nits and Bish you all got beat badly. We rolled bases throughout the entire map. Sunfan is a simplistic individual. The post was designed to recognize Rooks working as a Team. That's the objective of the game. Dah. It goes both ways sometimes. Sometimes we get beat badly but this last TT, Rooks dominated through strategy and teamwork! Again, high 5!
The objective of the game is to get into a Dogfight. Taking bases is an added bonus.
[Edit] WMLute, I didn't see your reply regarding the true meaning of why HiTech created this game.
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Like I said, if you want to test these 1 on 1 dogfight skills or more, they did make a DA in this game. The object of the map is country who takes 40% of 2 countries bases and maintains 80% of their own wins the map. You get 25 perkies for winning too as a bonus. Unless I interpret the object of this game wrong I must be real stupid. I furball all the time, do wingman fighter sweeps, pork bases, kill cv's, ect.... Sunfan you need to get 8 player back, LOL In war, many towns, airfields, warehouses, ammo factories, we not armed for attack at times. That is the object of war. To overtake a country and plan your attack. Unless all Bishops, Knights and Rooks wanted to "Dogfight", I'm sure Hi-Tec would install 1 map in the game like the DA. So that said ^5 again Rooks.
Others have already tried to explain it to you. Perhaps we should just go find the hi-tech quotes that completely refute your "game is to win the war" idea?
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Like I say, no attrition. Most of these horde missions that actually meet equal resistance take casualties in numbers that make Black Thursday look like a milk-run.
Well, there is attrition of sorts, just not in the traditional sense. Time and Energy, on the very grand level, are the ways attrition can be seen here.
In general the defender has two things going for them: closer to resupply (of aircraft, from the base--though cv battles are often different), and the complete horde mentality of the attacker which is completely energy-ineffecient. Although the attacker has the option of starting the assault energy-rich, undisciplined tactics and complete lack of strategy have the effect of completely robbing the attacker of this energy in short order.
To combat this, the attacker needs to use some actual teamwork. Though they claim to, this is often a delusion or outright lie.
Teams are disciplined. Teams have tactics. Teams have a strategy.
What we see in the MA is no team; it is a mob.
When was the last time you saw a mission launch that had different but mutually supporting targets? When was the last time you saw a detachment of Mustangs 50 miles away preventing reinforcements while certain elements concentrate solely on the town, others on the VH, a few on vulching, and more on high cover?
It doesn't happen. What you see is one mass of aircraft, all loaded to the gills with all the ordinance they can carry, all headed to the same base, from the same direction, at the same alt, and then all blowing whatever alt they have to chase after anything low and red.
Strategy? Please. Teamwork? Hardly. Mob rule and weight of numbers are the only things they know. Really, many base takers remind me of the kid scouring the internet for cheat codes because they can't figure out how to beat a level, or even the guy at the local hockey rink playing in the lowest division so he can be a "star."
I don't have a problem with people taking bases, or doing anything else that's generally frowned on by furballers. What I have a problem with is people putting in absolutely no effort, and expecting anything other than contempt.
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Hello Gentleman,
There is a question that I do have of those that have the "This is Aces High, not Aces Low" mentality. When I first joined AH I believe it was advertised as the Premier WWII Dogfighting experience (correct me if I am wrong). Now the homepage says it is the Premier WWII Combat Experience (note Attached AH front page pic). Nowhere do I see HTC saying that this is a sim for Air combat only, and yet there are those that state that is what it is. I believe at some point that this sim moved away from a purely dogfighting setup, to a broader ground, sea & air experience.
My question is this:
Is it really all about dogfighting or are some folks holding on to what AH once was or what they wish AH to be?
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It seems like some people might get that impression because of the name of the game and all the little airplane pics n' stuff.
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Combat,Attack,defend,planning,offense,defense,teamwork,raids,dog fighting,tactics and I am sure I could go on and on is PART of the game. Some of us(old and new) enjoy missions and taking bases. Some simply enjoy dog fighting. That is the great part of the game. Winning a map is part of the game. If some want to simply dogfight that is there mindset and so be it. The vast majority play to win the war. The post was not meant to start an ACES HIGH DEBATE. It was meant to make notice and compliment those who worked together on TT and compliment the LCA's. It is obvious that every one who decided to make a negative comment about the post did not really GET IT.
AGAIN I WILL SAY IT "WAY TO GO ROOKS! AND LCA'S ON A SUCCESSFUL TT"
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:cool: Bald Eagle said it best. Thank you. Object is having fun and if some squads want to take bases. Thats fun. If Sunfan wants to dogfight, thats fun. Well said!
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AGAIN I WILL SAY IT "WAY TO GO ROOKS! AND LCA'S ON A SUCCESSFUL TT"
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Yes, go <insert chess piece here> it's the best! :rolleyes:
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Interesting 'war' you got there. As for your comment about being stupid, I refer you to Forrest Gump
Comparing forest gump to drdeath is an insult to forrest. :D
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You judge your success in AH by how many bases you take with 30+ guys on a single undefended base? :huh
:rofl Who cares if there defended or not...Seems to me it's the other country's problem if there not :O Some strategy in this game would be great IMO..Hit em while there pants are down :rock not our fault if everyone is in 1 huge furball. I was not on for that either but I will take full advantage of weak bases when I can :eek:
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Stodd ever step on poop??? Well I did your reply
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ah is a sandbox game. At one point, HT on this message board did say something to the affect that the field capturing mechanism was in place to promote fighting. He said nothing about it (taking bases) being the object or point of the game. The game is many things to many people, problems arise when many try to claim that it should be played in a certain fashion, and that there is a correct way to play. This is just false. In that, I'm always relatively sure that HT does not want his game to become a game about hoardes steamrolling bases...otherwise eny would not exisit. Arena cap kind of gets 2 birds with one stone. Obviously AH wants people to fight, otherwise, he wouldn't have changed the fuel porkage from 25%...or added more ack....or changed hangars.
I don't think the majority of people play to win the war. If that is true, then the community as a whole is just terrible at this concept. It is why bases take forever to capture, why maps are seem to be rarely reset (large ones anyway). From where I play I would say the majority of players want to shoot at planes with base taking a sideline. But really it depends who you surround yourself with. If all your friends are base takers, and you frequently fly in missions, of course you would think that is what most people want. It's really all meaningless and the only objective way to do it would be to have HT post a poll in game on a monthly bases to see what is more important to people. At this point it wouldn't matter anyway, as clearly HTC wants a game that is appealing to a wide range of people. As many people who only like to furball, there are equall parts who only take bases. In between there are probably far far more people who enjoy both. Arguing that most people play to one extreme end or another just doesn't seem to be all that viable of an argument when considering the game is targeting people who like to both. Just mho
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ACKACK.... we heard ytou the first time :aok
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pluch you misspelled your screen name :aok :noid
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ooops %(#*k
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ACKACK.... we heard ytou the first time :aok
Huh? I dropped out of your moronic thread on page 1, so what the hell you talking about now?
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:rofl Who cares if there defended or not...Seems to me it's the other country's problem if there not :O Some strategy in this game would be great IMO..Hit em while there pants are down :rock not our fault if everyone is in 1 huge furball. I was not on for that either but I will take full advantage of weak bases when I can :eek:
So you play the game to avoid 'combat'? You look for the empty base and attack it as 'strategy'? The challenge being?
I love it when folks try and justify not fighting, by blaming the other guys for not defending or claiming it as strategy.
If you are so good at this stuff, then take your mob into the thick of the fighting and prove it.
Sadly what generally happens is if there is any resistance, the mob quick looks for another empty base to try and go to instead.
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Honestly, I can't totally condemn anything that puts huge numbers of targets in the air.
And come to think of it, aluminum overcast is kind of cool. It would be neat if more of the game centered around bombers at high altt, intercepting and defending them, at least part of the time.
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So drdeathx you still pming, those that dont play the way you like? :rofl :rofl
what did you call me that day i killed you with your hourde around, "skillless tard"
"your score sucks, and you suck..." ?
something along those lines?
your a joke and your style of "play" is a joke.
JETSOM
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Honestly, I can't totally condemn anything that puts huge numbers of targets in the air.
And come to think of it, aluminum overcast is kind of cool. It would be neat if more of the game centered around bombers at high altt, intercepting and defending them, at least part of the time.
I keep seeing in my minds eye, this vision of the 8th, 9th and RAF commanders in England sitting down to plan their campaign.
"Hmmm, lets see. The Luftwaffe is based in Germany, France Holland etc. It might be tough fighting our way through to the target. Any ideas?"
"Yeah, lets use strategy and attack Scotland. I'm guessing we can take a lot of real estate up that way without much trouble. Then lets congratulate ourselves for doing it too. Think of the propoganda!"
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What does that have to do with this thread..... Ohhh when u died???? lol
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The funny thing is the individuals back slapping each other the most generally can't fight their way out of a ripped, wet paper bag.
I remember reading a post in the forums from a guy looking for a squad, as he put it 'I can't fight worth a damn, but I can drop any hanger'. It really is laughable! :rofl
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Are you planning on another Titanic Tuesday mission festival?
I want to attend, I'll make sure I wear red. :aok
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Yeah, I was thinking of the wrong raid anyway.
I keep seeing in my minds eye, this vision of the 8th, 9th and RAF commanders in England sitting down to plan their campaign.
"Hmmm, lets see. The Luftwaffe is based in Germany, France Holland etc. It might be tough fighting our way through to the target. Any ideas?"
"Yeah, lets use strategy and attack Scotland. I'm guessing we can take a lot of real estate up that way without much trouble. Then lets congratulate ourselves for doing it too. Think of the propoganda!"
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If you are so good at this stuff, then take your mob into the thick of the fighting and prove it.
Dude, you are so, like, old-fashioned. Hey, maybe back in the old days it was important to be good at the flying part, you know? But, like, the game has CHANGED, dude, and people aren't interested in that kind of thing anymore. The challenge is to reset the map and get the perk points, don't you see? It's the GOAL that counts now, the GAME part, the WINNING part if you catch my drift. I mean, if you want to be good at flying and all that, that's FINE with us, dude, hey, that's why they have a dueling arena! Go for it!
- oldman
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Dude, you are so, like, old-fashioned. Hey, maybe back in the old days it was important to be good at the flying part, you know? But, like, the game has CHANGED, dude, and people aren't interested in that kind of thing anymore. The challenge is to reset the map and get the perk points, don't you see? It's the GOAL that counts now, the GAME part, the WINNING part if you catch my drift. I mean, if you want to be good at flying and all that, that's FINE with us, dude, hey, that's why they have a dueling arena! Go for it!
- oldman
this smacks alot like sarcasim?
i certainly hope so... because to brag about rolling a bunch of bases in a huge hourde,defended or otherwise,(because we know only one or two will keep upping to defend),
is like bragging that your the "smartest kid on the short bus"
or the best trombone player at band camp.
WTFG guys i guess i will stop fighting and become a "we MUST win the war" type of player
NOT
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Delirium you are like Sunfan negative. Go stick your head in the toilet... LOL... Some of you guys are negative. The object is a salute for the teamwork. Every reply you have made in each forum has been negative and rather funny. If it is sunny today, go to the park. get an ice cream cone and sit and enjoy the nice day!Watch the happy people and watch the sad. There probably will be more happy people at the park and you may bring the ENY up for the sad people. Come back with a nice attitude!
Each one of these guys making negative remarks are just plain jealous you cannot organize. Plain and simple. BTW, Thanks OLDMAN!!!! this is what I love about the game.
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OLDMAN was being sarcastic ! wow.. :rolleyes: <S> old . Let the kids have their fun. They have short attention spands, and bedtimes lol. :rofl
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Delirium you are like Sunfan negative. Go stick your head in the toilet... LOL... Some of you guys are negative. The object is a salute for the teamwork. Every reply you have made in each forum has been negative and rather funny. If it is sunny today, go to the park. get an ice cream cone and sit and enjoy the nice day!Watch the happy people and watch the sad. There probably will be more happy people at the park and you may bring the ENY up for the sad people. Come back with a nice attitude!
Each one of these guys making negative remarks are just plain jealous you cannot organize. Plain and simple. BTW, Thanks OLDMAN!!!! this is what I love about the game.
what was negative about the post? He is simply saying if you are planning to try and horde bases, he will be there to defend against it. These people who are "jealous" would have no problem organizing. I'm not sure why they would be jealous. What is there to be jealous about? And if you want to go on about attitude, maybe take a look at yours as well while you are at it....
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Delirium you are like Sunfan negative. Go stick your head in the toilet... LOL... Some of you guys are negative.
I think I'll take that as a compliment, thanks!
Don't forget to tell me where you are on Tuesday, I'll be the one wearing red. :aok
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Delirium you are like Sunfan negative. Go stick your head in the toilet... LOL... Some of you guys are negative. The object is a salute for the teamwork. Every reply you have made in each forum has been negative and rather funny. If it is sunny today, go to the park. get an ice cream cone and sit and enjoy the nice day!Watch the happy people and watch the sad. There probably will be more happy people at the park and you may bring the ENY up for the sad people. Come back with a nice attitude!
Each one of these guys making negative remarks are just plain jealous you cannot organize. Plain and simple. BTW, Thanks OLDMAN!!!! this is what I love about the game.
LOL Seems to me you missed the 'bus' on Oldman's post by just a bit.
Jeez Oldman, you are losing your touch in your old age :)
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Delirium you are like Sunfan negative. Go stick your head in the toilet... LOL... Some of you guys are negative. The object is a salute for the teamwork. Every reply you have made in each forum has been negative and rather funny. If it is sunny today, go to the park. get an ice cream cone and sit and enjoy the nice day!Watch the happy people and watch the sad. There probably will be more happy people at the park and you may bring the ENY up for the sad people. Come back with a nice attitude!
Each one of these guys making negative remarks are just plain jealous you cannot organize. Plain and simple. BTW, Thanks OLDMAN!!!! this is what I love about the game.
Cliff Notes version of quote.
"zOMFG we f&*king pwned!!!! <Ego inflates> "I'm so into myself that I cannot see that Oldman is mocking my ego-needing arse."
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KRIER welcome to the thread!!!!!! :cry
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BTW, Thanks OLDMAN!!!! this is what I love about the game.
rofl @ Oldmans post going RIGHT over y'er head.
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LOL Oldman's post was as thick as you can lay the sarcasm on and it went right over your head. Get in another NOE horde and send another vile pm DrSqueak.
:lol
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I was about to insult the LCA's skill level but thats not even worth it.
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KRIER welcome to the thread!!!!!! :cry
Keep showing the Community how moronic you are. We laugh at you.
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I think I'll take that as a compliment, thanks!
Don't forget to tell me where you are on Tuesday, I'll be the one wearing red. :aok
you got the best idea yet.
there are very few peeps in AH i don't like, drdeathx, is on the top of my list, i wonder how many he actually PMed? with his tirade of verbal abuse? i do get alot of PMs,mostly its the nme saying good fight or to <S> me, but his was one of the few that was negative,(negative is used, vicious was more like it)
so i guess what it comes down to is he is trying now to be cool, but he has burned so many bridges in AH,
he could send me milk and cookies and i still would not pick a red guy off of his arse, or even warn him he is there.
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So you play the game to avoid 'combat'? You look for the empty base and attack it as 'strategy'? The challenge being?
I love it when folks try and justify not fighting, by blaming the other guys for not defending or claiming it as strategy.
If you are so good at this stuff, then take your mob into the thick of the fighting and prove it.
Sadly what generally happens is if there is any resistance, the mob quick looks for another empty base to try and go to instead.
[/quot Ok first of all you are putting your ideas into my post... I never said I was good at this stuff..Fact... what stuff are you implying? I do not avoid fights....fact... You must be a troll.....fact..... Look me up and I will show you how I avoid fights in the DA......SLAP..... :rock
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Now this is some funny stuff.
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I keep seeing in my minds eye, this vision of the 8th, 9th and RAF commanders in England sitting down to plan their campaign.
"Hmmm, lets see. The Luftwaffe is based in Germany, France Holland etc. It might be tough fighting our way through to the target. Any ideas?"
"Yeah, lets use strategy and attack Scotland. I'm guessing we can take a lot of real estate up that way without much trouble. Then lets congratulate ourselves for doing it too. Think of the propoganda!"
:rofl Ok there stud were is the front line? This game is not even close to being able to plan out anything...Maybe a mission here or there :O It's one giant gaggle..So are you suggesting that everyone playing should go to the place with the most dar?So if a country needs to take one base to win the map, we should go to the best defended gaggle to make you happy? So you must be implying that everyone that does not fly the way you think they should is wrong. I think you should get with HTC and write everyone an Ah rule book so we don't offend your arm chair ways of life...... :O
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Keep showing the Community how moronic you are. We laugh at you.
Again.. Who is "we"? karaya and masherbum? :huh
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:rofl Ok there stud were is the front line? This game is not even close to being able to plan out anything...Maybe a mission here or there :O It's one giant gaggle..So are you suggesting that everyone playing should go to the place with the most dar?So if a country needs to take one base to win the map, we should go to the best defended gaggle to make you happy? So you must be implying that everyone that does not fly the way you think they should is wrong. I think you should get with HTC and write everyone an Ah rule book so we don't offend your arm chair ways of life...... :O
LOL you prove my point :)
The suggestion was made that this is all about strategy and organization. To quote you. "If a country needs to take one base to win the map...."
Great. Go for it. If winning the reset is what you are all about. Knock yourself out. But don't claim that it's strategy and tactics.
To quote you again "This game is not even close to being able to plan out anything...Maybe a mission here or there."
I think you said what needed to be said. :aok
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WAIT..you have ALL been duped. This must be a Dr.Death shade or..HE WOULD TALK IN CAPS TO GET YOUR ATTENTION
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LOL you prove my point :)
The suggestion was made that this is all about strategy and organization. To quote you. "If a country needs to take one base to win the map...."
Great. Go for it. If winning the reset is what you are all about. Knock yourself out. But don't claim that it's strategy and tactics.
To quote you again "This game is not even close to being able to plan out anything...Maybe a mission here or there."
I think you said what needed to be said. : I am all about having fun and making fun of trolls who think everyone should be in 1 huge furball because that's what they like to do...That is what it sounds like u are trying to say...I like taking bases for my 15$ a month.We as a squad use the element of surprise to take bases because we do not count on other peoples help to take them..I do not have four hours a night to waste furballing over any one base..So what I mean about organization is I do not count on other folks besides squad members to do a particular job..Most people can't drop a hanger the way our squad has been trained to do. We will drop all hangers in jugs on one pass then take out what ever else needs to be taken out to be successful..If one person misses there hanger then the mission could fail horribly. It is a squad thing and it takes precision ,and practice that we pride ourselves in..Lately we have not been doing that kind of stuff. well this tour anyhow...So if we are not indulging in your massive pointless furball please don't be a troll about it...PS. your suggestion was pointed towards people using excuses not to fight or furball get your facts strait :huh
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changed my post. Just wanted to add, that I don't think most furballers furball, because they want to have air combat. It is not wastefull. Using that term implies that we are not playing the game as you see fit. We do it for the fight, and it is fun, which is what a game should be. We look for the fight, because we want combat. I don't see why both camps can't co-exist. I'd like to see an arena where If one base is under attack, the solution is to go to another base where no one is and too busy elsewhere.
If The US was invaded by Canada, would we just let them take New England, while we take Quebec? To me, this is the issue with base taking. It is now at the point where it is mostly just a race to see who can capture the most bases...it doesn't all that much matter which ones you lose. If a mission fails, there are plenty of other bases that you can go to. There is no urgency, no reason not to. As someone who prefers air combat, as oppossed to flying to a base and dropping a hangar the game becomes somewhat diluted. If people are just going in mass to bases that are empty, on all sides, then where are the consistent big battles? One would like to see more fights between bases, not fights that are generated from failed base capture/vulch fest, in which the other team simply disappears because the target base is to difficult to capture. If bases are to promote air/ground combat then to me at least, it seems a mechanism that encourages people to fight over a particular base would be a good thing. The game seems to lose a bit of flavor (again to me) when a field which is good enough to have a large mission go and take, should be important enough to want to defend and continue on the attack if capture fails. I think it would add even more of a pride factor to squads when their best tactic/sepcialty isn't the fact that no one is there/knows a base is under attack. All it really says, is that when you have a large advantage and no one to fight, you can take the base.
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Negative worthless replies. Rokks dominated last TT plain and simple.... SALUTE ROOKS! Yall jealous hahahahahahah. You all are cryin on this thread cause we whomped ur arses!!!!! :cry
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LETS SEE WHO CATCHES THE TYPO 1ST :cry
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I think you said what needed to be said. : I am all about having fun and making fun of trolls who think everyone should be in 1 huge furball because that's what they like to do...That is what it sounds like u are trying to say...I like taking bases for my 15$ a month.We as a squad use the element of surprise to take bases because we do not count on other peoples help to take them..I do not have four hours a night to waste furballing over any one base..So what I mean about organization is I do not count on other folks besides squad members to do a particular job..Most people can't drop a hanger the way our squad has been trained to do. We will drop all hangers in jugs on one pass then take out what ever else needs to be taken out to be successful..If one person misses there hanger then the mission could fail horribly. It is a squad thing and it takes precision ,and practice that we pride ourselves in..Lately we have not been doing that kind of stuff. well this tour anyhow...So if we are not indulging in your massive pointless furball please don't be a troll about it...PS. your suggestion was pointed towards people using excuses not to fight or furball get your facts strait
Trigg, Can you quote me where I said anything about furballing? You keep talking about mindless furballing. Show me where I asked for that? What I'm laughing at is someone patting himself on the back for taking undefended bases. The suggestion is for them/you to bring that crowd and attack where there is a fight, not to roll undefended bases and call it strategy.
Let me send you the films from the DGS scenario where all us 'mindless furballers' actually flew 2+ hour bomber escort missions to defended targets. Now THAT was fun and it wasn't about kills, it was about the challenge of going into the teeth of the defenses and doing the job.
What the heck, I'll send you some SAPP night film where we tell the crowd exactly where we're going so they can come up and play.
But again, show me where I asked for mindless furballing? If you are going to argue, at least be accurate in your points.
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Let me send you the films from the DGS scenario where all us 'mindless furballers' actually flew 2+ hour bomber escort missions to defended targets. Now THAT was fun and it wasn't about kills, it was about the challenge of going into the teeth of the defenses and doing the job.
Our 'mindless group of furballers' did so well that bomber groups were requesting us routinely. We stayed with the buffs, even after one group found cloud cover over the primary, the secondary, and the tertiary target. It was by far the deepest incursion during DGS and our P38s landed with just a few gallons, I stopped on the runway with 8 gallons left and went deadstick taxing.
I will never forget that experience, even the milk run we had was entertaining. :aok
However, you'll never catch me escorting bombers in the MA, they target the airfields and HQ and neither one is conducive to encouraging a fight.
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What's so mindless about furballing as compared to mindlessly stealing undefended bases NOE? No one has ever explained that to me when they give the old "they just furball and don't join my misshuns!" argument.
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What's so mindless about furballing as compared to mindlessly stealing undefended bases NOE? No one has ever explained that to me when they give the old "they just furball and don't join my misshuns!" argument.
At least the furball types are fighting the enemy as opposed to going out of their way avoiding 'em.
Said it before, say it again, if all ya' do is hoard undefended bases ya' may as well fly offline and save the $15 bucks subscription fee.
THIS Titanic Tue. try running those missions at fields with large enemy dar bars.
I know you are thinking "but, but Lute... we won't take the base if we do that!!!".
When me and mine are flying towards an nme base with intentions of capturing it and I see the dar bar gettin' huge I almost always say "Woot! It just got FUN!".
The best, the very BEST captures are the ones where you gota fight for it. ANY pack of 2 week dweebs can hoard an undefended field and capture it. It takes all that 'skills' you say your group showed last Tue. to take a base that is well defended.
My fav. is when we as attackers are slightly out numbered. THAT takes skill, planning, etc. (and a well flown, smart and sneaky goon pilot. <S> to Spacer, one of the best goon pilots in the game)
10 vs. 15 = (worthy of a BBS thread)
20 vs. 4 = (not so much)
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What's so mindless about furballing as compared to mindlessly stealing undefended bases NOE? No one has ever explained that to me when they give the old "they just furball and don't join my misshuns!" argument.
Base capture missions have to be NOE
because one vehicle can stop a whole
capture.
These vehicles in AHII must have 4" armor..much
tougher then the same vehicles I watch getting
killed by a 3-second burst from P-47's when
viewing gun camera footage from the war.
When vehicle vulnerability more accurately
reflects historical reality the NOE missions will be things
of the past.
Just saying...
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Base capture missions have to be NOE
because one vehicle can stop a whole
capture.
Doesn't one of the 40 guys in your mission carry an egg for the GV? If you were so adept at egging as you say, killing it should be a piece of cake.
I sincerely hope HiTech is reading this thread to discover how much his game has changed, for the worse.
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Negative worthless replies. Rokks dominated last TT plain and simple.... SALUTE ROOKS! Yall jealous hahahahahahah. You all are cryin on this thread cause we whomped ur arses!!!!! :cry
Whats funny/sad is he is like 20 years old. And I think they "Yall" are laughing :P
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Said it before, say it again, if all ya' do is hoard undefended bases ya' may as well fly offline and save the $15 bucks subscription fee. who's fault is it that no one defends it and chooses to stay in a furball?[
THIS Titanic Tue. try running those missions at fields with large enemy dar bars. We did it last Titanic Tue. and will surely do it again, we took a base that had far outnumbered us.
Greed can be a killer... in this case lack of SA in your entire front. But if you need us to continue taking bases where the furball is, will do. In the meantime, keep an eye on the bases you no longer want, we'll take em' too.
This is why they Rooks/LCA were so succesful, Bish didnt defend them, they also failed to mention all the denials that were dished out on the ones that were defended.
So what was your point again? :confused: :D
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Doesn't one of the 40 guys in your mission carry an egg for the GV? If you were so adept at egging as you say, killing it should be a piece of cake.
I sincerely hope HiTech is reading this thread to discover how much his game has changed, for the worse.
I'm sorry Delirium.
But could you direct me to the gun camera footage
you are referring to? Anyone viewing wartime films
can see that .50 caliber bullets (not to mention 20mm)
can easily kill armor; especially when open topped
armor is attacked from above.
But who cares anyway?
To me, this whole argument about taking undefended
bases,,blah, blah, blah..is old. We'll play the game we want,
you play the game you want. The $15 is the same either way.
In the final analysis, its all about having fun with that $15.
I don't care if all you want is to fly around and count sheep.
If you enjoy that, more power to you. Just have a good time. :)
Enough said.
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96Delta do you really believe the history channel and everything they show/tell you?
I have numerous accounts how German panzer columns would pull off the road and would only proceed after the Allied Jabos had dropped their bombs and began to strafe. They knew the .50 cal had no chance of peircing their skin and just buttoned up as they traveled. Only the supply columns and infantry were really vulnerable to the guns of the Allied fighters.
The .50cal M2 was designed as an antitank weapon, but by the time WWII began it really didn't have the penetration for much besides armored cars and that wasn't assured.
Either way, are you telling me that one of your 40 guys can't 'egg' the panzer as he attempts to prevent the capture?
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honestly i love to fight , i have no intrests in any other aspect of Aces High(allthough i have tried it all),so if a base was taken while i was fighting out of it, all good, i will find another base to up out of, if the war was won, all good, a new map will be rolling around very soon and i will find another fight!
someone already said its about having fun and enjoying oneself, i wholeheartedly agree,
i dont give anyone crap unless they give it to me first, and i try to <S> a good fight gangbanged or not, win or loose, if every one flew this way 200 would be boring :D
fight your fight and to hell with anyone who griefs you for it.
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Base capture missions have to be NOE
because one vehicle can stop a whole
capture.
These vehicles in AHII must have 4" armor..much
tougher then the same vehicles I watch getting
killed by a 3-second burst from P-47's when
viewing gun camera footage from the war.
When vehicle vulnerability more accurately
reflects historical reality the NOE missions will be things
of the past.
Just saying...
I didn't ask for why you had to run NOE. I didn't ask about your percieved problems with tank armour in the game.
I asked "What's so mindless about furballing as compared to mindlessly stealing undefended bases NOE?"
You can even remove the NOE part really, I don't find base capture very entertaining. It won't lead to the fights I play the game for. Why is furballing so "mindless" or "wasteful" as compared to base capture? No one will ever explain that. If they tried their argument would probably spontaneously combust.
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I dont see all that much difference between NOE missions and most furballs. Earlier in the week I spent 2 days defending bases where it was a constant 3 on 1, or 5 on 1, with the enemy always having tons of Alt. coming in on you. I cant remember the last legit 1 on 1 I had flying with the furball crowd.
Most furballing squads waving the flag here, if not all, are nothing but NOE gangbangers only at 10,000' instead of 200'. Many high scorers dance around at 20,000' afraid to commit unless its an easy one because it might affect their score. And then we have the vulch specialists? :rofl
So I like both flying in, and against, NOE missions. They are fairly easy to defeat as long as your not someone who needs prozac if you actually get killed in a cartoon fight. One of the things I like about the LCA, besides the guys, is nobody gives a hoot about their score.
I would fly with them anyday. They are a good bunch of guys.
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Still no one wants to explain how base capture isn't mindless while furballing is. :rolleyes: