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Title: Air Warriors....
Post by: AWRaid on November 02, 2008, 11:11:23 PM
I still love you :D
Title: Re: Air Warriors....
Post by: SIK1 on November 03, 2008, 12:39:11 AM
That's nice, but you still can't have my bud lite. :D
Title: Re: Air Warriors....
Post by: AWRaid on November 03, 2008, 11:25:16 AM
That's nice, but you still can't have my bud lite. :D


WHY NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Air Warriors....
Post by: Shuffler on November 03, 2008, 11:27:27 AM

WHY NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Obviously you did not stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.....
Title: Re: Air Warriors....
Post by: AWRaid on November 03, 2008, 11:29:03 AM
Obviously you did not stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.....

Hampton Inn, it's loverly!
Title: Re: Air Warriors....
Post by: Hungry on November 03, 2008, 12:35:50 PM
AWRaid

EA stock is taking a beating right now, maybe its time to put in your bid, maybe they'll let it go.  Too bad time has passed it by so much that it wouldnt be viable even if you could get EA to let it go.

Title: Re: Air Warriors....
Post by: AWRaid on November 03, 2008, 12:46:44 PM
AWRaid

EA stock is taking a beating right now, maybe its time to put in your bid, maybe they'll let it go.  Too bad time has passed it by so much that it wouldnt be viable even if you could get EA to let it go.




Yeah.

It would need to be totally rewritten.


I think AWDOS/AW4W was better than AW2/3 though. I'm not sure why... the others had more features. I suppose old habits..
Title: Re: Air Warriors....
Post by: BiPoLaR on November 03, 2008, 02:57:02 PM
Hey guess what?


AIR WARRIOR IS GONE!!!!!!


Let it go...k thx
Title: Re: Air Warriors....
Post by: 999000 on November 03, 2008, 03:58:37 PM
9900<---otw to Bomb BAR right now!
Title: Re: Air Warriors....
Post by: scot12b on November 03, 2008, 04:03:48 PM
Hey guess what?


AIR WARRIOR IS GONE!!!!!!


Let it go...k thx
WORD!(http://img130.echo.cx/img130/5329/bestthreadever5cw.gif)
Title: Re: Air Warriors....
Post by: sNiPeR on November 03, 2008, 05:29:19 PM
Actually...its four words :aok
Title: Re: Air Warriors....
Post by: Hungry on November 03, 2008, 05:58:52 PM
Hey guess what?


AIR WARRIOR IS GONE!!!!!!


Let it go...k thx

Thanks for pointing that out, your insights are invalueable, and please excuse for me reminiscing for just a moment. 

Nobody thinks its coming back its, a great memory why bash it why not just stay out of it.

Title: Re: Air Warriors....
Post by: Grayeagle on November 03, 2008, 06:51:18 PM
You can pry the memories of Air Warrior from my cold, dead fingers .. dweeb :)

I'll 'let it go' about a year or so after I am dead.
Maybe.

-GE (a dweeb and knows it)
Title: Re: Air Warriors....
Post by: BiPoLaR on November 03, 2008, 09:17:11 PM
Thanks for pointing that out, your insights are invalueable, and please excuse for me reminiscing for just a moment. 

Nobody thinks its coming back its, a great memory why bash it why not just stay out of it.


Why must grown men dwell on a video game from the past?
AW this AW that.
Who really cares?
im personally sick of hearing about it..
play AH and hush
Title: Re: Air Warriors....
Post by: NoBaddy on November 03, 2008, 09:36:38 PM
Why must grown men dwell on a video game from the past?
AW this AW that.
Who really cares?
im personally sick of hearing about it..
play AH and hush

Hmmm, gotta wonder why you chose to stop in and make comments if you are really sick of it. The subject of the thread clearly states what it's about. Yet you chose to read and comment anyway??? Obviously, you care. Jealous? :devil

Title: Re: Air Warriors....
Post by: BiPoLaR on November 03, 2008, 09:43:53 PM
Hmmm, gotta wonder why you chose to stop in and make comments if you are really sick of it. The subject of the thread clearly states what it's about. Yet you chose to read and comment anyway??? Obviously, you care. Jealous? :devil


would you be jealous if your friend got an enema and you didnt?
thats the way i look at it
Title: Re: Air Warriors....
Post by: Hungry on November 03, 2008, 09:49:32 PM
Why must grown men dwell on a video game from the past?
AW this AW that.
Who really cares?
im personally sick of hearing about it..
play AH and hush

Shush up now heres a quarter go play in traffic and let the grownups talk.
Title: Re: Air Warriors....
Post by: etoile on November 03, 2008, 09:54:27 PM
What's wrong with a bunch of old guys reminiscing about old times? Air Warrior was a precursor to Aces High. Many thanks to HiTech and crew for giving us venue to continue what we started in Air Warrior. I've only been back about 2 weeks now and am proving to be quite unteachable! et
Title: Re: Air Warriors....
Post by: BiPoLaR on November 03, 2008, 09:55:02 PM
Shush up now heres a quarter go play in traffic and let the grownups talk.

so you are a grown man crying about a silly game that is DEAD!!!!!
Title: Re: Air Warriors....
Post by: Hungry on November 03, 2008, 09:58:05 PM
so you are a grown man crying about a silly game that is DEAD!!!!!

Well I think we were perhaps going to have a normal conversation about an old game we used to play but some annoying little kid is pushing his persona into the conversation.  I understand thats how you get attention.  Just go do it somewhere else huh?
Title: Re: Air Warriors....
Post by: FALCONWING on November 03, 2008, 09:58:25 PM
See Rules #4, #5
Title: Re: Air Warriors....
Post by: Grayeagle on November 03, 2008, 09:59:45 PM
The whiney baby in your avatar fits you very well BP.

-GE ( I know I know . . don't feed the Troll .. some baby seals just need smackin tho)
Title: Re: Air Warriors....
Post by: Hungry on November 03, 2008, 10:06:06 PM
The whiney baby in your avatar fits you very well BP.

-GE ( I know I know . . don't feed the Troll .. some baby seals just need smackin tho)

If there were ever a case for an Ignore feature this would be it.  Is there one in here? 

Title: Re: Air Warriors....
Post by: BiPoLaR on November 03, 2008, 10:08:04 PM
Bipolar....tape your weenie back tween your legs and dance in front of the mirror singing "I'M a little Princess aren't I"

I hope that occupies you until you develop pubes...

Idiot :huh
Sounds as if you're speaking from first hand knowledge.
You tried this? And does it work?
Title: Re: Air Warriors....
Post by: BiPoLaR on November 03, 2008, 10:09:56 PM
Hey isn't the nursing home about to be lights out?
shouldn't you guys put the bingo cards down and finish your jello before beddy bye?
Title: Re: Air Warriors....
Post by: BiPoLaR on November 03, 2008, 10:18:34 PM
this is my last post. I dont want to be the cause of someone having to take a nitro pill :eek:
Love you and have a good night
Title: Re: Air Warriors....
Post by: ROC on November 03, 2008, 10:20:46 PM
Bip, at some point, this silly game will be DEAD, and with luck, you will be long in the tooth and missing the camaraderie you shared.   Also, there will, with luck, be some snot nosed kid giving you grief should you be so stupid as to mention it.
Title: Re: Air Warriors....
Post by: AWRaid on November 04, 2008, 12:50:27 AM
Bipolar, your name fits...


Need some Lithium?



Air Warrior is dead only because EA bought the rights then dropped it because it wasn't a cash cow.



I don't think anyone is arguing the fact that the game is gone.



If it had not been around AH, Warbirds and WW2OL would have never existed.

Games come and go, evolve and die. AW was bound to go out sometime, it isn't about the game as much as the memories. Any game you really enjoy and play for a long period of time you will think back on.


I started a few years after it first came out on dos right before the windows version. I still remember reading the readme and guide that came with the download. I remember thinking "one day I will be as good as some of these guys I am reading about".


I studied and read everything I could on aerial combat and the game. I'd always had an interest in WW2 and especially Aerial combat so I was drawn into the game quickly. I questioned everyone and listened to every tip they would give and attended just about any chat/interview with 'ace pilots' and took notes.


I was in my teens so I am not sure if that is why I was so encompassed in the game or because even online text chatting was cool back then, flying the virtual skies seemed like a miracle. Either way, it was a very fun time in my life and I was instantly addicted. My parents jaws dropped when they saw how much my game cost them though lol. I had to basically get a job to support my AW playing. :P


Eventually it came out on AOL though and I quickly switched my ISP to play for free. I remember the Turkey Hams, Cactus Airforce, Internet Daemons and so many other Squadrons. A lot of peoples names are getting blurry and I am forgetting them but every time I spend a bit of time to think back on Air Warrior I remember more and more names. I never got into AW2 or 3 nearly as much as the original.







Title: Re: Air Warriors....
Post by: Westy on November 04, 2008, 09:31:26 AM
"If it had not been around AH, Warbirds and WW2OL would have never existed."


Not saying anything about AW being dead and gone or otherwise but your point above is akin
to saying that if it weren't for the Wright brothers there would not have been powered flight...

There were already companies and groups working on air combat games and with multiplayer
capability. Kesmai did it first in a BIG way. But if they had not someone would have within a
year or few of when they did. 
Title: Re: Air Warriors....
Post by: Murdr on November 04, 2008, 10:46:33 AM
"If it had not been around AH, Warbirds and WW2OL would have never existed."

Not saying anything about AW being dead and gone or otherwise but your point above is akin
to saying that if it weren't for the Wright brothers there would not have been powered flight...

Considering HiTech was an AW player that went on to create two of those three games, I don't think that it's an unreasonable argument.  I can think of lots of quotes off the top of my head where the experience as an AW player has influenced decisions on the game mechanics of AH.
Title: Re: Air Warriors....
Post by: Shifty on November 04, 2008, 11:05:03 AM
"flying the virtual skies seemed like a miracle."

Exactly. It was like a miracle to fly against live opponants especially after years of flying box sims against AI.
Crappy grahics and too expensive, and I couldn't get enough of it. No matter how great AH becomes in the future, I'll never forget the rush I got from AW in the early 90's. Even a hyper misbehaving squeaklette attention addict can't ruin the great memories.
Title: Re: Air Warriors....
Post by: AWRaid on November 04, 2008, 11:41:45 AM
Considering HiTech was an AW player that went on to create two of those three games, I don't think that it's an unreasonable argument.  I can think of lots of quotes off the top of my head where the experience as an AW player has influenced decisions on the game mechanics of AH.

Correct. What I was refering to is the actual concept of all of these games aside from ww2ol closely follows AWs model. Most of the people working on these projects were former air warriors. Even Docdoom/Killer in WW2OL.


Of course similar games would have eventually came out but they probably would have been vastly different than what we have today.
Title: Re: Air Warriors....
Post by: Grayeagle on November 05, 2008, 01:52:39 PM
change 'within a year' to 'perhaps in a decade ..or two'

No one knew how to do it when Kelton figured it out.

There were no other online 3d-games ..anywhere.
Even Wolfenstein/Quake/Duke Nukem came after AW.

As for online air combat .. Fighter Duel ..came well after AW.
And it was 1-1.

AW was 30 people flyin an fightin in 3d back when text-based adventure games on BBS systems was the norm.

There wasn't even a 'web' then.
Internet Explorer was still years away, much less the watershed that AOL was to 'normal' people who had never heard of the term 'online' much less 3d gaming :)

GE

Title: Re: Air Warriors....
Post by: NoBaddy on November 05, 2008, 10:40:39 PM
Yeah!!! What GE said.

...and we had to walk up virtual hills.......both ways!!!! :rock
Title: Re: Air Warriors....
Post by: Murdr on November 05, 2008, 10:44:28 PM
Yeah!!! What GE said.

...and we had to walk up virtual hills.......both ways!!!! :rock
And that was tough too when the hills were overlapping pyrmids with no textures to get a virtual footing on  :furious
Title: Re: Air Warriors....
Post by: Grayeagle on November 06, 2008, 02:49:33 AM
altho .. sometimes .. you *could* fly into a seam of one of the pyramids.

or drive a flakpanzer into the pyramid.

Or ..so I heard.

Now an then.

-GE -evil grin-
Title: Re: Air Warriors....
Post by: Brooke on November 06, 2008, 04:20:22 PM
altho .. sometimes .. you *could* fly into a seam of one of the pyramids.

or drive a flakpanzer into the pyramid.

Or ..so I heard.

Now an then.

-GE -evil grin-

Heh!  I remember that. :)
Title: Re: Air Warriors....
Post by: hlbly on November 06, 2008, 05:13:50 PM
Why must grown men dwell on a video game from the past?
AW this AW that.
Who really cares?
im personally sick of hearing about it..
play AH and hush
Well it is real easy to not open the thread .I would think that the title would be a good clue that it will only irritate you .
Title: Re: Air Warriors....
Post by: MachNum on November 06, 2008, 05:41:05 PM
And that was tough too when the hills were overlapping pyrmids with no textures to get a virtual footing on  :furious

But the skies were always blue  :)
Surely that makes up for it?
Title: Re: Air Warriors....
Post by: Murdr on November 06, 2008, 06:17:01 PM
altho .. sometimes .. you *could* fly into a seam of one of the pyramids.

or drive a flakpanzer into the pyramid.

Or ..so I heard.

Now an then.

-GE -evil grin-


It was fun to fly inside the pyramids, though not all that easy on depth perception surrounded by the solid brown pyramid facets.
Title: Re: Air Warriors....
Post by: 1pLUs44 on November 06, 2008, 06:29:59 PM
Just curious, do you think the guys who made AW would re-introduce it into the flight sim world if EA let it go? Or am I missing something here?
Title: Re: Air Warriors....
Post by: Murdr on November 06, 2008, 06:37:19 PM
Just curious, do you think the guys who made AW would re-introduce it into the flight sim world if EA let it go? Or am I missing something here?

There isn't "the guys".  The whole studio was shut down in Sept 01.  No doubt everyone went different directions to pursue their careers.  The core game code needed redone from scratch anyways.  It had become tempremental from years of being patched over from what I understood.
Title: Re: Air Warriors....
Post by: 1pLUs44 on November 06, 2008, 06:58:33 PM
Ah, I wonder what they do now? 
Title: Re: Air Warriors....
Post by: Golfer on November 06, 2008, 07:34:32 PM
Word has it a few of them still work in the online gaming business.
Title: Re: Air Warriors....
Post by: SIK1 on November 06, 2008, 09:14:03 PM
Word has it a few of them still work in the online gaming business.

LOL ya think
Title: Re: Air Warriors....
Post by: 1pLUs44 on November 06, 2008, 11:08:08 PM
Huh... I wonder what AW we'd be on this year if it was still around? AW5? AW6 maybe?
Title: Re: Air Warriors....
Post by: NoBaddy on November 07, 2008, 03:27:49 PM
At the rate that they updated things.....more like AW4.5. :)
Title: Re: Air Warriors....
Post by: Yossarian on November 07, 2008, 03:43:33 PM
Scroll down to the bottom of this thread: http://www.airwarrioronline.com/forum/index.php?topic=293.0 (http://www.airwarrioronline.com/forum/index.php?topic=293.0), and download the files linked in the last post, if you want to play AW4.



I installed the files, I had to set something to compatibility mode (or it MIGHT have been disable some graphics option), but Air Warrior does run on Windows XP.
Title: Re: Air Warriors....
Post by: Ack-Ack on November 07, 2008, 05:08:50 PM
Scroll down to the bottom of this thread: http://www.airwarrioronline.com/forum/index.php?topic=293.0 (http://www.airwarrioronline.com/forum/index.php?topic=293.0), and download the files linked in the last post, if you want to play AW4.



I installed the files, I had to set something to compatibility mode (or it MIGHT have been disable some graphics option), but Air Warrior does run on Windows XP.

That's not AW4...it was never released.  That's just AW 3 Millennium Version of the game.


ack-ack
Title: Re: Air Warriors....
Post by: Ack-Ack on November 07, 2008, 05:23:23 PM
Ah, I wonder what they do now? 


Well, it's no surprise what GE is up to since he posted what he's currently doing since leaving the gaming industry.  Last I heard Jeff Hanna (Quarters) had left Mythic Entertainment soon after it was bought out by EA and moved to THQ, though not sure if he's still there.  BB (Blue Baron) went to work at Microsoft, think doing some stuff on the original Xbox, but not sure if he's still doing that.  If anyone can find it, BB had written a wonderful essay on how important an online community is to a game, very insightful not only from a developers point of view but also for the player.

Dose stuck around EA but I think he finally left a few years ago, probably got tired of being blamed for everything but as we all know, it really is his fault.

Don't know what happened to Mage, though he did play AH for a couple of months during the Exodus after AW shut down.

Not sure what Kelton Flinn is up to these days but he definitely is a pioneer of online gaming.


ack-ack
Title: Re: Air Warriors....
Post by: Murdr on November 07, 2008, 05:42:04 PM
Don't know what happened to Mage, though he did play AH for a couple of months during the Exodus after AW shut down.

Last I chatted with Steve he was out of the industry.  He was managing an electronics store, and was looking to own a franchise with that chain.  It's been a few years though.
Title: Re: Air Warriors....
Post by: Ack-Ack on November 07, 2008, 06:38:35 PM
Last I chatted with Steve he was out of the industry.  He was managing an electronics store, and was looking to own a franchise with that chain.  It's been a few years though.

Glad to hear that he's doing well, despite what the majority of the community thought about him, I always thought of him as a good guy that was used as a scape goat by the community.


ack-ack
Title: Re: Air Warriors....
Post by: Grayeagle on November 07, 2008, 09:20:47 PM

I never held anything against Mage or Kato or Dose .. we were all in the same 'boat' that went down.

The people that spouted pure BS proved beyond a doubt what they were about.

It sucked to be a part of, and sucked more to read all the BS posted by people who knew better.

The classic 'AW will continue' . . -rolls eyes- . . ya.. right.

-GE aka Frank


Title: Re: Air Warriors....
Post by: Yossarian on November 08, 2008, 08:04:12 PM
That's not AW4...it was never released.  That's just AW 3 Millennium Version of the game.


ack-ack

I just posted what it said in that topic.
Title: Re: Air Warriors....
Post by: Ack-Ack on November 09, 2008, 01:19:07 AM
I just posted what it said in that topic.


and I am correcting what was posted in the topic...sheesh...squeakers these days.


ack-ack
Title: Re: Air Warriors....
Post by: Scotch on November 09, 2008, 02:29:48 AM
Is bigweek still running on the kraits server (last location I knew about)?
Title: Re: Air Warriors....
Post by: Flossy on November 09, 2008, 04:48:39 AM
Is bigweek still running on the kraits server (last location I knew about)?
I believe so, though I have not been there since I had a hard disk crash some time ago now.

~Waves to all the former Air Warriors~  It was Air Warrior that originally got my interest or I would not be here now.  :)
Title: Re: Air Warriors....
Post by: Ack-Ack on November 09, 2008, 06:22:20 AM
I believe so, though I have not been there since I had a hard disk crash some time ago now.

~Waves to all the former Air Warriors~  It was Air Warrior that originally got my interest or I would not be here now.  :)

Nice to see you again Flossy <S>  How's the husband and the other Kraits?


ack-ack
Title: Re: Air Warriors....
Post by: Oldman731 on November 09, 2008, 10:03:06 AM
Is bigweek still running on the kraits server (last location I knew about)?

Different server, you still get to it the same way.  You and Flossy please get your sorry butts back in there, please.

- oldman
Title: Re: Air Warriors....
Post by: Grayeagle on November 09, 2008, 11:37:18 AM
Nice to see yas Flossy, Ack-Ack, Oldman ..

Been a long strange trip an it aint over yet :)

Next version of AW ..'two weeks' .. of course!

-GE
Title: Re: Air Warriors....
Post by: Luft on November 09, 2008, 03:03:52 PM
Air Warrior is not completely gone. I built an Air Warrior Museum a few years ago for all you diehard fans out there.
For a free peek at the sheep (among other things) just follow this path:
http://www.fw190.org/airwarrior.htm

Luft
Title: Re: Air Warriors....
Post by: Yossarian on November 09, 2008, 04:38:06 PM

and I am correcting what was posted in the topic...sheesh...squeakers these days.


ack-ack

Sorry for taking this a bit off topic, but what's your point here?
Title: Re: Air Warriors....
Post by: Oldman731 on November 09, 2008, 05:59:48 PM
Nice to see yas Flossy, Ack-Ack, Oldman ..

Stop back in, GE, HR is still lurking there.

This time you both have to keep it nice, though.

- oldman
Title: Re: Air Warriors....
Post by: BnZs on November 09, 2008, 06:22:34 PM
Post moved to correct thread.
Title: Re: Air Warriors....
Post by: NoBaddy on November 09, 2008, 11:20:49 PM
Air Warrior is not completely gone. I built an Air Warrior Museum a few years ago for all you diehard fans out there.
For a free peek at the sheep (among other things) just follow this path:
http://www.fw190.org/airwarrior.htm

Luft


Saw the "6 pack" thing....all I can say if is Seal landed 6........he musta CHEATED!!!!!!

Nice site, Luft. :)
Title: Re: Air Warriors....
Post by: Flossy on November 10, 2008, 02:38:38 AM
Nice to see you again Flossy <S>  How's the husband and the other Kraits?
Nice to see you too, Ack-Ack <S>  Husband and son both doing OK.  :)  As for the rest of the Kraits, recently heard from Spiffy, Ravs, Trip, Kev, Hellhawk, Fox on our mailbot, but only Fox and Hellhawk still fly here occasionally.  I believe Kev was going to come back too but his GameID came back invalid when I tried to send a squad invite.  I recently reformed the squad in AH as it was a victim of Skuzzy's cleanup campaign and I didn't want to see it disappear! :)
Title: Re: Air Warriors....
Post by: Flossy on November 10, 2008, 02:40:49 AM
Different server, you still get to it the same way.  You and Flossy please get your sorry butts back in there, please.
Hmmm right, didn't know that.... I don't have a newsreader installed at the moment but will look into it; would also need details of the server....  :)
Title: Re: Air Warriors....
Post by: Flossy on November 10, 2008, 02:42:15 AM
This time you both have to keep it nice, though.
It was all the unpleasantness I was seeing with various people that put me off Bigweek, it had become a very depressing place..... hope it's better now. :)
Title: Re: Air Warriors....
Post by: Ack-Ack on November 10, 2008, 03:29:27 AM
Sorry for taking this a bit off topic, but what's your point here?

If you need my post explained to you, you're not a very bright individual.


ack-ack
Title: Re: Air Warriors....
Post by: AWRaid on November 10, 2008, 06:56:25 PM
Air Warrior is not completely gone. I built an Air Warrior Museum a few years ago for all you diehard fans out there.
For a free peek at the sheep (among other things) just follow this path:
http://www.fw190.org/airwarrior.htm

Luft


Nice
Title: Re: Air Warriors....
Post by: blutic on November 10, 2008, 07:11:58 PM
Air Warrior?
Is this a game you can play now?
Title: Re: Air Warriors....
Post by: Ack-Ack on November 10, 2008, 08:23:37 PM
Air Warrior?
Is this a game you can play now?

Sadly, no.  It was put to the firing squad on that day that will forever live in infamy, December 7th, 2000.


ack-ack
Title: Re: Air Warriors....
Post by: Golfer on November 10, 2008, 09:44:37 PM
I believe it was 2001.
Title: Re: Air Warriors....
Post by: Oldman731 on November 11, 2008, 08:38:56 AM
I believe it was 2001.

That's correct.  7 December 2001.

- oldman (Flossy has some good shots of the final fly-by)
Title: Re: Air Warriors....
Post by: Yossarian on November 12, 2008, 12:54:35 PM
If you need my post explained to you, you're not a very bright individual.


ack-ack

You must have misinterpreted my post ("I just posted what it said in that topic."), which was not meant to be rude in any way at all, so sorry if it was mistaken for being so.
Title: Re: Air Warriors....
Post by: Shifty on November 12, 2008, 02:04:44 PM
"sigh"



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