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General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: CAVPFCDD on November 12, 2008, 03:04:27 PM
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I say lower the price or keep the price but update this game big time, now i love the game, dont get me wrong, im an addict, but from a technolgical standpoint i believe its a bit behind. I dunno, im sure im not the first to bring this up by a long shot. It's $50 a year for xbox live, im aware Hitech isn't a corporation like Microsoft, however i think they do a little bargining. In this econmic crunch I'd like to not pay so much for this, may even have to get rid of it for a little while, my monthly budget doesnt seem to be taking me nearly as far as it used to :frown:
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I say lower the price or keep the price but update this game big time, now i love the game, dont get me wrong, im an addict, but from a technolgical standpoint i believe its a bit behind. I dunno, im sure im not the first to bring this up by a long shot. It's $50 a year for xbox live, im aware Hitech isn't a corporation like Microsoft, however i think they do a little bargining. In this econmic crunch I'd like to not pay so much for this, may even have to get rid of it for a little while, my monthly budget doesnt seem to be taking me nearly as far as it used to :frown:
Lowering the price when it's only 50 cents a day? :confused:
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They've already said they're going to return to the old rhythm of updates. Take a look at the news and see for yourself..
I can't see the price coming further down. 15 bucks is dirt cheap.
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They've already said they're going to return to the old rhythm of updates. Take a look at the news and see for yourself..
I can't see the price coming further down. 15 bucks is dirt cheap.
but..but it's 50 cents a day!
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i just hope they kick it in gear with the updates, they are way to far apart especially with no heads up in the middle :(
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i just hope they kick it in gear with the updates, they are way to far apart especially with no heads up in the middle :(
no heads up??? Look when they started posting pics of the last update and when it was released.
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No way. Increase the price if anything. Lower price = more squeakers and moonlighters.
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No way. Increase the price if anything. Lower price = more squeakers and moonlighters.
Hell is freezing over, I'm now agreeing with you. :uhoh :devil
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I have no problem with a slight price increase it's worth it especially if they enhance the graphics. With the amount of time most of spend in game you can not get a better deal. :rock
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It's $50 a year for xbox live ...
And Microsoft is taking a beating (loss) on xbox live ... they are banking on "xbox live" to drive sales for their WAY overpriced XBox console and it's games ... that is no where near the business model of HTC ... comparing apples to oranges.
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No way. Increase the price if anything. Lower price = more squeakers and moonlighters.
That's exactly what I was thinking :aok
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well its just quite a bit for a video game, $168 a year, nobody finds that a bit steep
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It's $179.40 a year. It used to be a bargain, although lately, I'm not entirely sure. Not steep compared to an internet connection, nor hardware, displays, controllers, etc.
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They've already said they're going to return to the old rhythm of updates. Take a look at the news and see for yourself..
I can't see the price coming further down. 15 bucks is dirt cheap.
I'd prolly maybe draw the line at $30. HTC does a great job at what they do, and when you call for some help, unlike at most places, you get an actual person on the other end.
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I'd prolly maybe draw the line at $30. HTC does a great job at what they do, and when you call for some help, unlike at most places, you get an actual person on the other end.
I'm for $31 then. :D
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I'm for $31 then. :D
:noid
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I'd prolly maybe draw the line at $30. HTC does a great job at what they do, and when you call for some help, unlike at most places, you get an actual person on the other end.
i heard that it used to be payed for hourly? if that was true then im sure they have some store away for a rainy day, im fine with the price but even 12 dollars a month would be enough
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i heard that it used to be payed for hourly? if that was true then im sure they have some store away for a rainy day, im fine with the price but even 12 dollars a month would be enough
If I remember AW on Genie was $12/hour when I 1st started...
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If I remember AW on Genie was $12/hour when I 1st started...
I wasn't on Genie but I do remember a few big AoHell bills before it went unlimited.
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well its just quite a bit for a video game, $168 a year, nobody finds that a bit steep
No, it's actually a bargain. Factor in that the average "A" title release for the PC is $49.99 and $59.99 for Xbox 360 and PS3 game, $15 a month you pay for AH is a great deal. Factor in that most "A" title games have no or very little replayability and AH becomes even more of a bargain.
For 3 months of AH, you can buy 1 "A" title. The $179 a year for AH, is a better deal than 2-3 "A" title games and offers far more hours of game play than 95% of any PC and/or console title.
ack-ack
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If I remember AW on Genie was $12/hour when I 1st started...
Depended on the time you'd log on if I remember correctly but when I first started on Genie, it usually cost me $12 an hour. Had to use a large portion of my student loan to pay off the bill.
ack-ack
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This isn't an AAA title game, so comparing them is like comparing donkeys and cats.. For the price and the style of game you can not beat it with a 20 foot stick. If you can not budget in $15.00 per mo, you have bigger issues than the price of this game. I'm sure 90% of throw away at least that much in a single week if not each day when you factor in all the stupid non essential stuff you buy to keep you going.
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I started with Warbirds at 2$ an hour with a 10 hour minimum. I actually watched my time pretty closely, think my biggest bill was just around 100$. Then AH came along with 30$ a month flat fee pricing. Think I ever looked back? No WAY!
Then HTC drops the price in half. Thinking more customers paying half is a good thing.
Well I'm still not so sure about that one. In some respects a lot of our troubles with gameplay stem from that decision. So if they wanted to go back to 30$ a month, heck YEAH!
15$ a month is a bargain, dirt cheap. So cheap you don't appreciate all your getting.
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Team fortress 2 is 30$, you only pay once and play for hundreds of hours. Not to mention the "Orange Box".
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Even with my lousy paycheck supporting a family of five, luckily living out of town in Eastern Oregon, I think $15 is about right. Any more and I'd have to cut Aces High and still keep my internet. Our local economy here was already crap before the economy went to crap. :rolleyes:
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well i still think it can go lower, im not broke, not well to do either, just like to not pay as much
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And Microsoft is taking a beating (loss) on xbox live ... they are banking on "xbox live" to drive sales for their WAY overpriced XBox console and it's games ... that is no where near the business model of HTC ... comparing apples to oranges.
i dont like oranges though :P
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Increase the monthly fee to $30, hire a few more developers, FIX all the inaccurate aircraft, ADD more aircraft, hone and fine tune the gv game, ADD more gv's,...
and once a player has been here for 12 mos.... their renewal is $15 a month. HTC will retain a lot of people that way.
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So you've been playing for a long time, as most addicts...... And only registered 10 days ago on the forums? Let me get in line to listen to your thoughts more often!
I say lower the price or keep the price but update this game big time, now i love the game, don't get me wrong, I'm an addict, but from a technological standpoint i believe its a bit behind. I dunno, I'm sure I'm not the first to bring this up by a long shot. It's $50 a year for xbox live, I'm aware Hitech isn't a corporation like Microsoft, however i think they do a little bargaining. In this economic crunch I'd like to not pay so much for this, may even have to get rid of it for a little while, my monthly budget doesn't seem to be taking me nearly as far as it used to :frown:
Also..... I fixed most of the spelling and grammar for you. You're Welcome. Stop cutting your English class!
But enough of that, you'll forgive my aggression......
The game is dirt cheap now and the updates take a while because 7 people in Grapevine, TX do all the work. And they do it this way so they don't have to raise the price too darn much. But as so many of my friends and enemies have already stated......... I'd take an increase in price if they were going to hire another fulltime developer or two! I would do it in a heartbeat and I think most of us "addicts" would too!
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Increase the monthly fee to $30, hire a few more developers, FIX all the inaccurate aircraft, ADD more aircraft, hone and fine tune the gv game, ADD more gv's,...
and once a player has been here for 12 mos.... their renewal is $15 a month. HTC will retain a lot of people that way.
He'll lose more than he gains. The majority of the existing player base will probably quit if they have to pay $30 a month and new users will not fork over $30 bucks to play a monthly game unless it's part of a package deal like SOE's Station Pass.
ack-ack
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where else can you get all the HOs you wont for $15. Great value for the money.
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Lowering the price when it's only 50 cents a day? :confused:
wow 50cents? your getting the shaft .
I pay 49 cents a day :aok
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So you've been playing for a long time, as most addicts...... And only registered 10 days ago on the forums? Let me get in line to listen to your thoughts more often!
Also..... I fixed most of the spelling and grammar for you. You're Welcome. Stop cutting your English class!
But enough of that, you'll forgive my aggression......
The game is dirt cheap now and the updates take a while because 7 people in Grapevine, TX do all the work. And they do it this way so they don't have to raise the price too darn much. But as so many of my friends and enemies have already stated......... I'd take an increase in price if they were going to hire another fulltime developer or two! I would do it in a heartbeat and I think most of us "addicts" would too!
So because I haven't been registered with the forum my opinion matters less... good logic. I've always read the forum for films, tips and what not, just never bothered to register until recently, when i had the idea of self propelled artillery. I registered because I had a good, worth while idea to post, unlike your rude reply. Just answering would have be fine, like everyone else did.
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Increase the monthly fee to $30, hire a few more developers, FIX all the inaccurate aircraft, ADD more aircraft, hone and fine tune the gv game, ADD more gv's,...
and once a player has been here for 12 mos.... their renewal is $15 a month. HTC will retain a lot of people that way.
i think that people who has been forum active, as well as a active member to the game, and has been in the game for a year, would have the right to pay 15$, new people, or Inactive people regardless of years playing, would have to pay 25$
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The price will change
In two weeks
:P
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I don't mind the price, but I do mind that it's completely subscription based. I can't just make a payment whenever I decide want to play. Since some months I really can't afford it, I've had to stop playing to get rid of the hassle.
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It doesn't matter of someone just started playing this morning or has been an active member for the last 7 years, they are still the customer and are entitled to the same monthly rates. HTC would probably lose a lot of it's revenue if it raised the bar to $30.00, you might see "as some seem to think" the more elite players only cruise these skies and all of our problems concerning immature players in the MA fixed though I seriously doubt it. It's easier for a parent to sit their kid in front of technology than it is to be an actual parent.
This game is priced exactly the way it should be.
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The folks at HTC need to put food on the table too. $15 a month is well worth it.
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You didn't mention your spelling! :huh
So because I haven't been registered with the forum my opinion matters less... good logic. I've always read the forum for films, tips and what not, just never bothered to register until recently, when i had the idea of self propelled artillery. I registered because I had a good, worth while idea to post, unlike your rude reply. Just answering would have be fine, like everyone else did.
You may also note..... I did ask you to forgive my aggression! So now who is being rude?
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You may also note..... I did ask you to forgive my aggression! So now who is being rude?
you shouldn't even have to ask, it was just uncalled for in my opinion. But yes thank god :pray you were there to correct my spelling, Hopefully my message is conveyed more clearly now. :lol
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$ 15 is not bad for people that are able to play all the time. I work a 2 week on , 2 week off shift on an oil rig so i am not able to get my money's worth. :cool:
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Did they start holding guns to people's heads for the subscription price?
You don't think it's worth it, vote with your feet. I'm very happy myself, so I
think I'll stay.
The stuff in this post reminds me of the HtH freeloader's rants.
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The stuff in this post reminds me of the HtH freeloader's rants.
:aok
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Why lower the price I would like to see better graphics so on so fourth :O Raise it if we get a better product.. I will pay if it is worth the bucks... What is it a 900 mhz pc will play this game...Lol what is that like 1998 99 some were in there?
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I seriously doubt HTC will change the price. In a year, off of about 1200 people (which is a rough estimate guessing how many people play all week, vs. people who only play for FSO... and so forth) they only make about $215K which is a lot of money, but when they spend so much of it on the game and modeling, I'm not sure how much they have left.
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I'm for $31 then. :D
same here.
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It's $179.40 a year. It used to be a bargain, although lately, I'm not entirely sure. Not steep compared to an internet connection, nor hardware, displays, controllers, etc.
Oh piss off, it's way more if you have to add a weak currency to the mix. :lol :aok
I'm paying $20 a month, so that's $240 a year!
No complaints here. :aok
If you can't afford $20 a month.... you have bigger problems than the cost of AH.
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The price for any commodity is set by what different people are willing to pay, what community the seller wishes to support, and what competition exists. In the beginning Air Warrior on GEnie was $6 per non-prime time hour to play. For me there was an additional $6/hr for long distance charges. People routinely built up $200 to $500 per month bills. Obviously at that rate the community was small. Warbirds had a somewhat lower price and gathered a bigger community. AH started at $30/month. It then fell to $15/month when, presumably, HTC either figured they would make more money serving a bigger community or they just wanted to make the same money and serve more people. Whatever the reason, HTC has already figured out what the proper price for AH is, given their goals.
The third factor is competition. Boxed games that don't have a massively multiplayer online component are not competition for AH. The fact that you are flying against real people instead of AI is almost the entire value of AH. So the only competition is Warbirds and WWII Online (do those still exist?) or the online part of IL2. (Correct me if I am wrong, but IL2 is not massively multiplayer?)
Now what are they likely to do in the future? Well, despite inflation they haven't upped the price in a very long time. On the other hand, the economy is tanking big time and an increase in price could decrease players as people look to cut non-essential outlays. If I had to guess, I'd say they would probably keep the price the same, but increase the rate of updates of AH as they have put CT on the back burner.
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Here is the break down.
HTC monthly fee break down
14.99 x 12 months = $179.88 a year (365 a day plan)
365 divided by 1499 = 0.41068493 cents
0.41068493 x 365 = $14.989999 for a year (365 day plan)
Here is it on a 30 day plan - $14.99 divided by 30 day plan = 0.4996666 cents a day (30 day plan)
We are getting a deal.
0.4996666 x 365 = $182.3783 dollars total for a year. (30 day plan)
Not bad cost.
Less then a 12 oz can of soda pop.
Soda pop 12oz can = 0.65 to 0.75 cents average.
0.65 cents x 30 day average = $19.50
$19.50 x 12 = $234.00 for a year. (30 day plan).
0.65 x 365 = $237.25 total for a year (365 day plan).
Now if you live outside the U.S. ...Well that's another addition you will need to add in the figures.
Thanks HTC for AH II.
<S> GGhost
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0.41068493 x 365 = $14.989999 for a year (365 day plan)
Hoping that's a misplaced decimal.
In any case...I'd be very willing to pay if I didn't have to cancel my account every time I thought I might be short that month. :p
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It's $14.95 a month (US, outside of TX), $179.40 annually, which makes it $0.49 daily. That's not a misplaced decimal; he just broke it down incorrectly.
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Dang, I spend more on coffee in a week than I do for this game.
Starbucks anyone???
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A lot of people (especially around here) spend more on coffee than most things. Pretty sad, really. But, that's another thread.
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After reading the Aces High Forums for a little over a year, I though there couldn't be anything else posted that would surprise me. Then I ran across this thread. I just have to sit back and scratch my head in disbelief.
Maybe I'm just not getting it, but folks we are talking about $15.00 a month. You have the 200 soap opera, little generals yelling orders, old vets complaining, new guys complaining, people calling each other names, fights on the BBS, egos that never stop, whining, laughing, excitement, boredom, missions, dog fights, GV fights, political discussions, homophobics, the "I'm smarter than you attitude", the "Your not smarter than me attitude", lets DA, lets not DA, your a coward, dweeb, squeaker, you pick, HO, ram, and my favorite, you announce that your coming to fight when you 15,000 feet and already have broken the dar bar.
Folks you get all this for $15.00 a month. You don't feel like your getting a deal. Hell, I would pay a $100 a month for all this entertainment.
Fred
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A lot of people (especially around here) spend more on coffee than most things. Pretty sad, really. But, that's another thread.
How so? I've worked hard all my life and now I dont have to,I guess the point was that at 15 bucks a month this is relatively a cheap luxury.
As someone has said if you cant afford that,you have more problems than worring about the cost of a game.
BTW I spend way more on my wife than I do on coffee... :devil
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My first bill on MacAW was $189 for the first month.. And I got one kill, (he was AFK).
Enuf said!
:salute
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You have forgotten to add that that Total Rev amount includes paying the salaries of at least 7 people in Grapevine my little brother...
they only make about $215K which is a lot of money, but when they spend so much of it on the game and modeling, I'm not sure how much they have left.
HTC isn't living in mansions and driving Ferrari's keep in mind. They love the game, maybe they even love us a little for sharing that love. They come to work everyday and do the best they can to improve a game that we all love!!!
AND....... With all the commercials lately, they probably all took a small pay cut to do it.