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Title: Bulge has a new map
Post by: Oldman731 on December 12, 2008, 11:33:17 PM
Easyscor and Soda pointed out that we have a nice new map, Ardennes08, perfectly suited for this setup.  You'll find many more vehicle bases as well, for those so inclined.  Come check it out.

The new MOTD:

THE LAST WINTER

As the Battle of the Bulge plays out
its brutal, frigid conclusion, the
implacable air armies of the West
continue to pound the Thousand Year
Reich into rubble.


Map: Ardennes08 (check it out!)

Allies (Bishops)

C-47
B-17
B-24
B-26
Mosquito
P-38J, -38L
P-47D25, -D40
P-51B, 51D
Spit 14,16
Typhoon
Jeep
The Ms
Firefly Sherman


Axis (Knights)

C-47
Ju-88
Me-109G6, -G14, -K4
Me-110G2
Fw-190A-8, -D9, F8
Ta-152
Jeep
M-8
SdKfz 251
Ostwind
Wirbelwind
Pz IV
Tiger I

Settings:

Visibility: 12.0 miles
Radar: Tower 158400, Sector 343200
Field Ack: low-level and puffy are both .25
Killshooter is on
Fuel burn rate is 1.0
Field capture: 10 troops (maproom hardness .0015
Strat is disabled
Perk points are disabled. You can fly
anything for free.


Notes:

The omission of the rocket and jet planes on one
side, and the Tempest on the other, is intended
to reflect the fact that these planes came into
more common use somewhat later in the winter (as
well as for purposes of playability and balance).
 
Title: Re: Bulge has a new map
Post by: Larry on December 12, 2008, 11:38:54 PM
Yep this is a cool map with LOTS Vbases so close you dont even need spawn points.
Title: Re: Bulge has a new map
Post by: Bolt45 on December 13, 2008, 01:00:41 AM
I look forward to getting back into AH , nice to see new maps come along ..just don't make
anymore desert maps , Ive seen all the frickin sand I want for the last year ...

Bolt
Title: Re: Bulge has a new map
Post by: republic on December 13, 2008, 08:15:40 AM
The omission of the rocket and jet planes on one
side...

But...she packed by bags last night....pre flight.  Zero hour 9am....And I was going to be as high as a kite by then....

Cause' ....Oh no no no I'm a rocket man......yah

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9aMHdVruMZE
Title: Re: Bulge has a new map
Post by: Grits on December 13, 2008, 09:36:20 AM
Manned 8" gunz at teh vee basez! WooWOOO!
Title: Re: Bulge has a new map
Post by: Anaxogoras on December 13, 2008, 09:52:54 AM
Manned 8" gunz at teh vee basez! WooWOOO!

Yeah, wish they let us use those in last night's FSO! ;)
Title: Re: Bulge has a new map
Post by: Larry on December 13, 2008, 01:49:44 PM
Manned 8" gunz at teh vee basez! WooWOOO!

Last night they wernt enabled. Did they enable em now?
Title: Re: Bulge has a new map
Post by: B4Buster on December 13, 2008, 04:30:10 PM
I did a GV scenario on this map before, was absolutely amazing
Title: Re: Bulge has a new map
Post by: Grits on December 13, 2008, 05:25:49 PM
Last night they wernt enabled. Did they enable em now?

I dont know, I just checked out the map off line and saw they were there.
Title: Re: Bulge has a new map
Post by: B4Buster on December 14, 2008, 09:12:59 AM
furballed in it for the first time last night, was a blast, the close bases kept people from climbing too high, and fights were pretty steady
Title: Re: Bulge has a new map
Post by: Anaxogoras on December 14, 2008, 09:18:34 AM
Yes, I had fun last night.  A more mountainous part of the map would be interesting, too.  Sometimes I could almost see the enemy at their own base just after taking off last night!
Title: Re: Bulge has a new map
Post by: B4Buster on December 14, 2008, 09:22:10 PM
I think the map's good the way it is, wish it were used in the MA

Title: Re: Bulge has a new map
Post by: fudgums on December 14, 2008, 09:42:50 PM
People would complain how its only 2 countries. Then get the 3rd country and start taking bases.

otherwise I totally agree
Title: Re: Bulge has a new map
Post by: Steel on December 14, 2008, 09:50:27 PM
I would love to see a two sided map in the MA with Axis planes flying against the Allies.

Wouldn't that be the AvA with more people?   :uhoh
Title: Re: Bulge has a new map
Post by: B4Buster on December 14, 2008, 09:56:59 PM
I would love to see a two sided map in the MA with Axis planes flying against the Allies.

Wouldn't that be the AvA with more people?   :uhoh
Unfortunately that would be a mess, #1 and #2 most flown planes would be the 51 and D9, people would do nothing but pick. I meant, I think this map is big enough to be used for 3 countries in the MA, because we DO have some smaller maps used in the MA, this one would be fine, and I KNOW people would like it. only thing that wouldn't work out is the fact that the bases are really close togeather
Title: Re: Bulge has a new map
Post by: Anaxogoras on December 14, 2008, 11:38:08 PM
Warbirds tried that for their main arena years ago.  It was axis vs allies with a rolling planeset.  Really nice idea, but it tore the community apart.
Title: Re: Bulge has a new map
Post by: captain1ma on December 15, 2008, 06:40:50 AM
i think the bases are plenty close together. based on last night the bloodshed was incredible. a short flight and a quick trip to the tower. was a good time all and all, even if OM and larry were totally dominating me!
Title: Re: Bulge has a new map
Post by: Oldman731 on December 15, 2008, 08:34:51 AM
i think the bases are plenty close together. based on last night the bloodshed was incredible. a short flight and a quick trip to the tower. was a good time all and all, even if OM and larry were totally dominating me!

All of the fights were challenging, Jaeger, I had a great time.

As for the map:  Congratulations to Easyscor and his elves.  HTC won't allow MA maps to have bases this close together (sorry, folks, but I don't think you'll ever see this map in the MAs), but it really works great in AvA.  If you want a low-alt fight, your opponent is almost within sight once you raise the gear.  If you want to grab some alt before engaging, there's another friendly base, just a bit further back (and another one behind that) that will let you do so. 

- oldman (who thinks this map would work even better for the early war, slower planes)
Title: Re: Bulge has a new map
Post by: Easyscor on December 15, 2008, 09:31:34 AM
Quote from: Oldman731
- oldman (who thinks this map would work even better for the early war, slower planes)
Think Blitzkrieg. Without a regulated arena, use the P40b as sub for the D.520 and Hawk 75. Though you could argue the P40e is closer to the 520 in some ways, it's a little too good and would overpower the LW. Throw in the M8, M3, jeep, and sub LVTs for early tanks. Oh how I wish we had early war tanks, :pray.

And thanks for the compliment.
Title: Re: Bulge has a new map
Post by: Anaxogoras on December 15, 2008, 10:17:41 AM
Think Blitzkrieg. Without a regulated arena, use the P40b as sub for the D.520 and Hawk 75. Though you could argue the P40e is closer to the 520 in some ways, it's a little too good and would overpower the LW. Throw in the M8, M3, jeep, and sub LVTs for early tanks. Oh how I wish we had early war tanks, :pray.

And thanks for the compliment.

The D.520 had a maximum speed of 332mph, while the P-40E does over 350mph, so the P-40B is a better match in the speed category.  In rate of climb the D.520 was in between the P-40B and P-40E, like the Hurricane Mk I.  The D.520's 20mm hizooka was drum fed like our current Spit5, so that means a 60 round capacity; the P-40E has a lot more firepower, whereas the P-40B's 4x30cal and 2x50cal armament seems to match the D.520 better.

The Panzer IV (that we have in the game) served in the battle of France, though the majority had a weaker main gun than our version.
Title: Re: Bulge has a new map
Post by: B4Buster on December 15, 2008, 11:45:22 AM
All of the fights were challenging, Jaeger, I had a great time.
HTC won't allow MA maps to have bases this close together (sorry, folks, but I don't think you'll ever see this map in the MAs)

nope unfortunately
Title: Re: Bulge has a new map
Post by: bongaroo on December 16, 2008, 08:35:47 AM
I really enjoyed the map.  My only complaint would be how ridiculous the airfields look when you can see four or five of them so close.

Is the terrain simply scaled down but accurate?

Thanks for the map guys!  A+ really.
Title: Re: Bulge has a new map
Post by: Easyscor on December 16, 2008, 09:09:49 AM
Is the terrain simply scaled down but accurate?
Yes