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General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: HighTone on December 12, 2008, 11:37:33 PM
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I have searched, and I have posted this one before. It's been over two weeks so would like to ask for the B-29 with...
NO Nuke
No Formation
And perk it above 300
:aok
Or also the ME 410
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Here come the whiners....
I agree that we need it but after planes like the HE-111 or Russian bomber.
Steel
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I have searched, and I have posted this one before. It's been over two weeks so would like to ask for the B-29
Here ya go:
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c62/Masherbrum/nookie.gif)
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anyone see ground hogs day with bill murray.... i believe that sums up the situation at hand
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yes it was a 1944 bomber, we should have it. KI-84's shot them down
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Here ya go:
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c62/Masherbrum/nookie.gif)
I WANTED TO DO IT!
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(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v342/jake_94pgt/repost.jpg)
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My cat just killed herself!!!
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To validate the B-29 wish, here are some things you need to think about:
1. B-29 is huge and silver, it sticks out like a sore thumb.
2. It was designed for 30+K fighting.
3. In the MA's, you'd probably never see it above 15k, definitely 20k, just a giant donut target.
4. Incorporate all the mechanical problems into the B-29,you got a death trap.
:rolleyes:
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If I ever saw the B-29 flying at 30K, I would so want to up one of these to chase it down mercilessly.
(http://i528.photobucket.com/albums/dd322/PSYKOJR/2008-12-15_4-8-28-62.jpg)
There would be no hope for the plane once I got a lock with the radar guided missiles. Then I would go 262 hunting with it. :D :rock :t
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How dare you defy this wishlist with a picture from FSX. Shame on you!
NO B-29s! :furious
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At least he used a 'pure' FSX image and not one tainted by addons... except for the jet.
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See, imo, we should get the nuke :D
(http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m56/alecksismeboo/n00kposter.jpg)
But if we get the b-29, we need the f-4 (Model with the slipstream 20mm minigun ;) ), f-15C, f-22A, B-52, and a-10 :D
My opinion on this matter, would make AHII a much better place.
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Perks. Pfft.
This ought to make everyone, especially HTC, happy...
B-29s cost $15 each; charged to your account the moment your start the sortie. If you bring it back you get $5 returned for the deposit, but Dale & Co keeps the other $10.
Nooks cost $100 each, charged to your account the moment you start the sortie. You don't get that back, even if someone shoots you and your nook down before you get to your target. A nook will destroy every building within a certain radius and can only be dropped from 30,000+ AGL. The radius is slightly smaller than a large airfield. Airfields recover at the same rate, so you could have done the same thing with Lancs.
Three aircraft formation complete with nooks: $345. Go play.
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Seconded, if a B-29 ever comes to town! :t
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410 was real unstable due to how close the two props were, it would be a pretty easy plane to shoot down and wouldn't be used much (IMO) We allready have a good town strafer in the 110. I DO think the 410 should be added someday, just not in the near future
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410 was real unstable due to how close the two props were, it would be a pretty easy plane to shoot down and wouldn't be used much (IMO) We allready have a good town strafer in the 110. I DO think the 410 should be added someday, just not in the near future
Erm... think tank buster. :aok
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Erm... think tank buster. :aok
Would fall right out of the sky strafing tanks :aok
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Erm... think tank buster. :aok
There's a reason Milch hated this plane Bronk. It was unsafe.
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Pfft... I fear no unsafe cartoon plane. ;)
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There's a reason Milch hated this plane Bronk. It was unsafe.
Real unsafe, i've seen quite a bit of guncam footage of 410s being shot down, their defensive maunvers were next to none, They were probably just afraid of their plane as the aircraft shooting at them.
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Pfft... I fear no unsafe cartoon plane. ;)
haha me either, only reason I didn't bring up it being used to strafe GVs is because I imagine it would be modeled like a 152 (as far as stability is concerned) and I coudn't imagine being in a low and slow 152 trying to strage GVs while fiddling with your (flight) stick trying to aim
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i think the $10 for the b 29 is a little excessive i think 1000 perks for a formation and then the $100 for the nuke is just fine
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Meant to say "strafe" :huh.
I wish people woul stop asking for the 29 and just search old posts about the topic
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haha me either, only reason I didn't bring up it being used to strafe GVs is because I imagine it would be modeled like a 152 (as far as stability is concerned) and I coudn't imagine being in a low and slow 152 trying to strage GVs while fiddling with your (flight) stick trying to aim
Good thing you aren't in charge.
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To validate the B-29 wish, here are some things you need to think about:
1. B-29 is huge and silver, it sticks out like a sore thumb.
2. It was designed for 30+K fighting.
3. In the MA's, you'd probably never see it above 15k, definitely 20k, just a giant donut target.
4. Incorporate all the mechanical problems into the B-29,you got a death trap.
:rolleyes:
While it may have been designed for high altitude bombing missions, in reality a great deal of their missions over Japan were 20,000ft and lower, some even as low as 8,000ft due to the Jet Stream (not the sole reason but by and large, one of the major reasons for lower altitude bombing missions than what was designed and envisioned).
ack-ack
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moin
the 410 was a good plane, the 210 was the bird with all the mistakes and was fliing very instabil. thats why the luftwaffe export them to the romania airforce. but the 410 was a much better bird.
in Ah the 410 would be the perked 110 version. like the tempest and the typhoon.
i like the 410 and i hope we will see her some day in.
cu chris3
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moin
the 410 was a good plane, the 210 was the bird with all the mistakes and was fliing very instabil. thats why the luftwaffe export them to the romania airforce. but the 410 was a much better bird.
in Ah the 410 would be the perked 110 version. like the tempest and the typhoon.
i like the 410 and i hope we will see her some day in.
cu chris3
Romania didn't have any 210s. You're thinking of Hungary.
(http://hhope.uw.hu/me210c.jpg)
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I said nothing about nukes. With the way it is, they wouldn't help that much anyway.
Just a single B-29
No Formation
300 perks
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Romania didn't have any 210s. You're thinking of Hungary.
(http://hhope.uw.hu/me210c.jpg)
jes, sorry. hungary it was......my brain is like a switzer chees in the last days :uhoh
cu chris3
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Perhaps some Mozzarella to plug the holes? :D
(http://www.vinoforum.it/upload/images/Tg3mozzarella.jpg)
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Meant to say "strafe" :huh.
I wish people woul stop asking for the 29 and just search old posts about the topic
... and then they'd get flamed for bumping an old thread? :confused:
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in Ah the 410 would be the perked 110 version. like the tempest and the typhoon.
Why perked? With a top speed of 388 mph and climb, roll-rate below the average your chances of survive against P-51s, Yaks of
late Spits are close to null.
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yes it was a 1944 bomber, we should have it. KI-84's shot them down
Ki 44, Ki 45 and Ki 46.
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Why perked? With a top speed of 388 mph and climb, roll-rate below the average your chances of survive against P-51s, Yaks of
late Spits are close to null.
moin
sorry, i do not want it perked only try to explain how the difference would be between 110 and 410. it would be the same difference like between typoon and tempest. that's what i want to say.
sorry i Miss allot of vocabulary and it is always hard to me to explain thinks i want to say :(
cu chris3
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moin
sorry, i do not want it perked only try to explain how the difference would be between 110 and 410. it would be the same difference like between typoon and tempest. that's what i want to say.
sorry i Miss allot of vocabulary and it is always hard to me to explain thinks i want to say :(
cu chris3
Your English is still better than my German. No need for apologies.
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They should only give us the B-29 if they can make its engines randomly burst into flames or vibrate off their mountings.
just sayin'. :)
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stop whining
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Did anyone elses BS detector go off too? :huh
-FYB
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Did anyone elses BS detector go off too? :huh
-FYB
No, but this definitely dropped for me...
(http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m56/alecksismeboo/care-o-meter.gif)
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The same people who whine against adding the 410 because it is not perfect whine against adding the B29 because it is.
Weird.
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The same people who whine against adding the 410 because it is not perfect whine against adding the B29 because it is.
Weird.
No, we whine about the b-29 because it would throw the game outta whack. The plane balance would be gone. Plus, add it without a nuke, or cap it's ordy load... well, then there'll be more requests here about how "W3 w4n7 73h n00k!" and "If you look at my current charts, it's ordinance level simply is off! We need more b0mbs!"
b-29 = flying metal death trap for AHII and HTC imo...
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No, we whine about the b-29 because it would throw the game outta whack. The plane balance would be gone. Plus, add it without a nuke, or cap it's ordy load... well, then there'll be more requests here about how "W3 w4n7 73h n00k!" and "If you look at my current charts, it's ordinance level simply is off! We need more b0mbs!"
b-29 = flying metal death trap for AHII and HTC imo...
moin
it is an an interestening thought trigger2, but i cant belive that the b29 going to have a efect like that. i think it is the same as the introduse of the b24. exspecialy if the be29 is perked. we wouldn t lose plane balance. i gues that the b29 would be some of the most hunted planes in game, and she will not have any efect to the game. my thought.
i think thay should introduce it because all the b29 posts will end then lol :D
cu
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moin
it is an an interestening thought trigger2, but i cant belive that the b29 going to have a efect like that. i think it is the same as the introduse of the b24. exspecialy if the be29 is perked. we wouldn t lose plane balance. i gues that the b29 would be some of the most hunted planes in game, and she will not have any efect to the game. my thought.
i think thay should introduce it because all the b29 posts will end then lol :D
cu
seconded if they add the b 29 make the hq so a fromation can just barely take it down aka if the max bombs for a 29 is 20000IB then they need to make the hq 56000IB to take down
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seconded if they add the b 29 make the hq so a fromation can just barely take it down aka if the max bombs for a 29 is 20000IB then they need to make the hq 56000IB to take down
in the old days it was posible to take out hq with a b17 formation. dont have a problem with it. if th b29 is perked, why should she not able to take out the hq, exspecialy whe have me163 to defent it?.
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No, we whine about the b-29 because it would throw the game outta whack. The plane balance would be gone. Plus, add it without a nuke, or cap it's ordy load... well, then there'll be more requests here about how "W3 w4n7 73h n00k!" and "If you look at my current charts, it's ordinance level simply is off! We need more b0mbs!"
b-29 = flying metal death trap for AHII and HTC imo...
I doubt it would make things out of whack. It would be a hugely expensive aircraft. Yes, you would see a lot of them for a bit due to the high amount of unspent bomber perk points out there, but at something like 600 points for a formation that would end pretty fast.
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I doubt it would make things out of whack. It would be a hugely expensive aircraft. Yes, you would see a lot of them for a bit due to the high amount of unspent bomber perk points out there, but at something like 600 points for a formation that would end pretty fast.
moin
i completly agree with you, after a few weeks it becomes a plane like every other. it becomes only a biger lancaster with more guns nothing more but it will cost somethink.
cu chris3
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As much as I don't want to see a B-29 in the game, I would atill fly it if we did get it, if for no other reason than I need something to spend bomber perks on once in a while. 234 is all kinds of useless IMO.
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So in summary, don't add the B29 because "they" want it. And you hate "them". Or something to that effect. To say it will wreck the game is silly. The perk system can handle 262s. It can handle B29s without a hitch.
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Why? so we can have dive bomber B-29's to go with the dive bomber B-17's and Lancasters? :rolleyes:
No thanks.
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Why? so we can have dive bomber B-29's to go with the dive bomber B-17's and Lancasters? :rolleyes:
No thanks.
You're SO cynical. You think the zip codes will dive bomb the B-29? Perish the thought. Just a gentle descent...call it 45 degrees.
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i think the only people that do that are people that dont know how to get the bombsight to work or when i do it somewhat when i am takeing down a strat
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So in summary, don't add the B29 because "they" want it. And you hate "them". Or something to that effect. To say it will wreck the game is silly. The perk system can handle 262s. It can handle B29s without a hitch.
total agree. !!!
mmh i think we will not see divbombing b29.....
because....the perks
because....it cant dive. lol did you ever try to divebomb in b25??? its really bad hehe. and the b 29 would be a much more worser divebomber. maybe im wrong but i always dive in ju88.
cant understand the afreidness about this bird.... :rolleyes:
i want to see it in air so i can hunt it with my ta152.
i cant understnad HTC that he didnt introduce it although it is called for years by hundreds of people.
cu chris3
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i cant understnad HTC that he didnt introduce it although it is called for years by hundreds of people.
cu chris3
B-29 would take much more development time than any aircraft in AH. The B-17, B-24 and Lancaster pale in comparison. That is the main reason it isn't here.
Off hand I can only think of a couple of other aircraft that would take as much time to add.
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B-29 would take much more development time than any aircraft in AH. The B-17, B-24 and Lancaster pale in comparison. That is the main reason it isn't here.
Off hand I can only think of a couple of other aircraft that would take as much time to add.
moin
why would the b-29 take much more development? were is the diverence to other plans? only the size cant be the problem, or?!
maybe the plan development will rise a bit because of the CT dies. we will see what is coming next :)
.cu
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Since this has already been bumped I shall go on..........
Wont take any time to develop, as the bomber template already exists....... It is a simple fact of punching in different values to make the b17 a b29.... Keep in mind I am talking about the backend code. Building the bird (model) itself and skinning it would be the more labor intensive aspects of it.
They dont build the model and then put it in the AH "wind tunnel" to test it's accuracy. They do that with mathematics, so nothing to develop really, just a little trial and error with respective values for such things TTW or climbrate..... so on and so forth.
Unless of course you know something else?
B-29 would take much more development time than any aircraft in AH. The B-17, B-24 and Lancaster pale in comparison. That is the main reason it isn't here.
Off hand I can only think of a couple of other aircraft that would take as much time to add.
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Why? so we can have dive bomber B-29's to go with the dive bomber B-17's and Lancasters? :rolleyes:
No thanks.
Why would you stuka 200 perk B-29s when you can endlessly stuka Lancs for nothing?
The bomber crowd deserves a bone tosssed in the form of a perked bomber. I'd rather see A-26s, 111s, and TU-2s, come first but I hope the 29 eventually makes its way into the game.
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By the time anyone gets done arguing the B29, we could all just say yes to the 410 and have something to show for all the arguing.
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410 was real unstable due to how close the two props were, it would be a pretty easy plane to shoot down and wouldn't be used much (IMO) We allready have a good town strafer in the 110. I DO think the 410 should be added someday, just not in the near future
Where have you read it was unstable?
As far I know it was well more manouvrable than a 110, much faster and above all, it was a flying guns/cannons.
We had that plane in WarBird and it was just great.
Saluti!
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I would like to see the B-29, It seemed to play a fairly important part in the air war during WW2. Being available to all sides I don't think it would throw the balance of the game off, no more so than having the 262 does. Make it a perkie bomber, allow formations (even if only a formation of 2) and put it in the game. I am not a bomber, and hate flying against them, but it deserves a place in this game in my opinion.
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moin
why would the b-29 take much more development? were is the diverence to other plans? only the size cant be the problem, or?!
maybe the plan development will rise a bit because of the CT dies. we will see what is coming next :)
.cu
The artwork is the major issue in adding aircraft. The interior of the B-29 would require a lot of 3D modeling to make, significantly more than the B-17, B-24 or Lancaster.
The remote turrets on the B-29 and the remote barbettes on the 410 also, apparently, pose a coding problem.
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Why would you stuka 200 perk B-29s when you can endlessly stuka Lancs for nothing?
The bomber crowd deserves a bone tosssed in the form of a perked bomber. I'd rather see A-26s, 111s, and TU-2s, come first but I hope the 29 eventually makes its way into the game.
Well it hasnt been added to the game as of yet. so to say it woud have a 200 point perk is strictly speculative.
Based onteh reduction of perks required to take perk rides now.
I doubt it would ever see a 200 point perk value
But regardless of its perk value.
People WILL dive bomb it so long as that ability is modeled into the game.
I personally dont think Lancs and 17's should modeled in a way that they be allowed to drop at more then a 10-15 percent angle.
This tactic was used probably less then 1% of all the missions flown in the entire war.
Yet you can see it happen on a daily basis here.
there are some aircraft we will never have because of how few of them that were ever in service during the war.
the same mentality should be applied to the use of dive bombing by the heavy bombers.
So long as that aspect remains modeled into the game. I'll be against the 29 ever being added
:aok on your alternate selections
I'd also much rather see before the 29
Ju 88H-2 Long range fighter version of Ju 88H-1 reconnaissance aircraft. Based on stretched Ju 88D-1 fuselage with Ju 88G-1 wings and engines. Two 20 mm MG 151 cannon in solid nose and four more in belly pack
Or one of the JU88 P series with the 75 mm PaK 40 anti-tank cannon,
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They lowered the cost of the 262?
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They lowered the cost of the 262?
Just upped one tonight....they haven't.
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No,
Not for the 262.
But the other rides have been
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410 was real unstable due to how close the two props were, it would be a pretty easy plane to shoot down and wouldn't be used much (IMO) We allready have a good town strafer in the 110. I DO think the 410 should be added someday, just not in the near future
that was the 210 , 410 had issues resolved thus by the time it was fixed germany lacked enough skilled pilots
for her to do any real damage
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No, we whine about the b-29 because it would throw the game outta whack. The plane balance would be gone. Plus, add it without a nuke, or cap it's ordy load... well, then there'll be more requests here about how "W3 w4n7 73h n00k!" and "If you look at my current charts, it's ordinance level simply is off! We need more b0mbs!"
b-29 = flying metal death trap for AHII and HTC imo...
you'd pretty much be paying perkies for your death.
-FYB
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The artwork is the major issue in adding aircraft. The interior of the B-29 would require a lot of 3D modeling to make, significantly more than the B-17, B-24 or Lancaster.
Another thing about the B-29 and modeling the flight dynamics is, there is only one air worthy B-29 left in the entire world!! That aircraft, known as Fifi, is owned by the CAF (Confederate Air Force if I remember correctly) as well.
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Another thing about the B-29 and modeling the flight dynamics is, there is only one air worthy B-29 left in the entire world!! That aircraft, known as Fifi, is owned by the CAF (Confederate Air Force if I remember correctly) as well.
moin
:rolleyes: dont understand the problem.....did you ever see a ta152 or a ju 88 in the air since the war end?????
cu
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moin
:rolleyes: dont understand the problem.....did you ever see a ta152 or a ju 88 in the air since the war end?????
cu
Actually there are quite a few air worthy FW-190s, TA-152s, and Ju-88s around so they most likely could get around one, look at the design, and get the flight dynamics of it. But since there is only one B-29 left, the problem is getting the chance to get around the aircraft and actually having a flight on it to retrieve the flight dynamics of the plane.
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There is plenty of test documentation available to model the B-29A.
Restored aircraft aren't used in performance testing, and would produce inaccurate results in any cases due to changes such as the removal of guns and armor.
Look here for examples of the kind of primary source data HTC uses:
http://www.wwiiaircraftperformance.org/
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Actually there are quite a few air worthy FW-190s, TA-152s
How many?
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How many?
Not exactly sure but there are some flying in the states somewhere in Texas I think.
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Actually there are quite a few air worthy FW-190s, TA-152s, and Ju-88s around so they most likely could get around one, look at the design, and get the flight dynamics of it. But since there is only one B-29 left, the problem is getting the chance to get around the aircraft and actually having a flight on it to retrieve the flight dynamics of the plane.
moin
only one b29 is left? mmh. ok thay are some 190 and 88sin museums but still in duty?? i knew some 190 replikas but ta 152 no.
but to creat a AH model thay need only technical datas and some pics.
by the way the me 163 for example do have the same problem, but we get it :-).
and there are many more plans in game we have with out any living example.
cu chris3
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haha me either, only reason I didn't bring up it being used to strafe GVs is because I imagine it would be modeled like a 152 (as far as stability is concerned) and I coudn't imagine being in a low and slow 152 trying to strage GVs while fiddling with your (flight) stick trying to aim
thank god u added (flight) in otherwise even High Tech would begin a roast of you.... :rofl :rofl :rofl
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Not exactly sure but there are some flying in the states somewhere in Texas I think.
You wrote your previous post without really knowing for sure. There arent more than 1 Ta152. It's rotting in the NASM depot. There aren't that many 190s airworthy at the moment. Karnak covered the other aspects, re: modeling.
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The Confederate Air Force (Now, Commemorative Air Force) does have FiFI, the only flying B-29. SN44-62070.
She is flown into Reno occasionally and, is used as a static display during the Reno Air Races.
A.F. Crash, Fire, Rescue was absolutly correct. And A.F., Thanks for your military service <S>
Ahhh...Here it is. http://www.cafb29b24.org/a/B-29-FiFi_History.htm
(http://i43.tinypic.com/2w5v8uh.jpg)
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To be honest, in all my time of denying the B-29's existence and possibility for game use, I'll admit, I wouldn't mind seeing it in the game. Not now, not next update, but eventually. Maybe even have a trial run for the B-29? Put it in an update, and if it doesn't work and a large majority of the community complains, patch it out the next time around? Regardless, it'll be interesting seeing it in.
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To validate the B-29 wish, here are some things you need to think about:
1. B-29 is huge and silver, it sticks out like a sore thumb.
2. It was designed for 30+K fighting.
3. In the MA's, you'd probably never see it above 15k, definitely 20k, just a giant donut target.
4. Incorporate all the mechanical problems into the B-29,you got a death trap.
:rolleyes:
Oh, trust me, I would take it WAY above 30K :)
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Oh, trust me, I would take it WAY above 30K :)
Not if we give you a 111 first you wouldn't... :D
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Actually there are quite a few air worthy FW-190s, TA-152s, and Ju-88s around so they most likely could get around one, look at the design, and get the flight dynamics of it. But since there is only one B-29 left, the problem is getting the chance to get around the aircraft and actually having a flight on it to retrieve the flight dynamics of the plane.
Sorry, but my BS meter pegged on this post. I can think of 1 190 <not including the Flugwerke replicas>
0 152s or Ju88s. Heck there aren't even that many 109s flyable and they made about 33,000 of them.
Of course you don't have to fly one now to have flight test data left over from when they were built and
tested. You generally don't flight test 60 year old designs, you test the new stuff or old stuff that you added
new stuff to.
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Sorry, but my BS meter pegged on this post. I can think of 1 190 <not including the Flugwerke replicas>
0 152s or Ju88s. Heck there aren't even that many 109s flyable and they made about 33,000 of them.
Of course you don't have to fly one now to have flight test data left over from when they were built and
tested. You generally don't flight test 60 year old designs, you test the new stuff or old stuff that you added
new stuff to.
I think the Ju-88 at the AFM (the one in inaccurate Rumanian markings) is in flyable condidtion, but to the best of my knowledge it hasn't flown in decades. Might have even been so long that its not flyable for want of maintenance in fact.
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Like HT couldnt get his hands on the CAF B-29 :rofl. They are based in Texas. :rofl
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I can't resist:
http://www.grapheine.com/bombaytv/index.php?module=see&lang=uk&code=a62ce201f2faf028473747cce6fd8415 (http://www.grapheine.com/bombaytv/index.php?module=see&lang=uk&code=a62ce201f2faf028473747cce6fd8415)
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I can't resist:
http://www.grapheine.com/bombaytv/index.php?module=see&lang=uk&code=a62ce201f2faf028473747cce6fd8415 (http://www.grapheine.com/bombaytv/index.php?module=see&lang=uk&code=a62ce201f2faf028473747cce6fd8415)
:rofl man is skuzzy that old?
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No, he just looks that way from his stressful job of babysittin...I mean, monitering the boards. :D
Sorry, It was too good to pass up.
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:rofl
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I can't resist:
http://www.grapheine.com/bombaytv/index.php?module=see&lang=uk&code=a62ce201f2faf028473747cce6fd8415 (http://www.grapheine.com/bombaytv/index.php?module=see&lang=uk&code=a62ce201f2faf028473747cce6fd8415)
Aw crap. I just used that same scene for my movie. :(
Skuzzy looks hairier than Sean Connery in The Rock. ;)
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Or forget the B-29 and give us a Russian bomber
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Or forget the B-29 and give us a Russian bomber
+1
and :rofl :rofl :rofl for that video :rofl :rofl :rofl
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Look, we need to have another perk bomber. I have tons of bomber perk points that I just don't use. Put the B-29 in already. Perk it to.. say 200 points.
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Now that we have the hard part of adding the B29 done with...