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Title: Anyone know of a good Napoleonic style war game?
Post by: DREDIOCK on December 29, 2008, 07:29:43 PM
I have an itch
buy I want something that will allow different formations.wheel left/right etc and will actually recognize the significance of being flanked.

too may remind me of Warcraft LOL
Title: Re: Anyone know of a good Napoleonic style war game?
Post by: 1pLUs44 on December 29, 2008, 07:32:16 PM
Empires Dawn of the Modern World. You can go from the Medieval ages to World War 2. 
Title: Re: Anyone know of a good Napoleonic style war game?
Post by: Motherland on December 29, 2008, 07:34:06 PM
I don't 'know' of any, but this looks pretty badazz, I'm going to get it when it comes out.
http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=9UrkMULhXvo&feature=channel_page (http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=9UrkMULhXvo&feature=channel_page)
Title: Re: Anyone know of a good Napoleonic style war game?
Post by: Treize69 on December 29, 2008, 07:39:09 PM
Wait a bit for this one, the rest of the series is great- I have two of the titles (Rome and Medieval) and attendant expansions from it.

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/36099.html

http://www.totalwar.com/
Title: Re: Anyone know of a good Napoleonic style war game?
Post by: mbailey on December 29, 2008, 07:45:14 PM
I found this game to be fun its all Napoleonic Warfare, not near a graphically amazing game but fun none the less

http://www.gamespot.com/pc/strategy/austerlitznapoleonsgv/index.html

Bubi, that trailer is awesome, looks like a must buy!!  :aok
Title: Re: Anyone know of a good Napoleonic style war game?
Post by: oakranger on December 29, 2008, 08:13:22 PM
HPS Similation has six Napoleonic style war game.  I have a few games from them. 
http://www.hpssims.com/ (http://www.hpssims.com/)
Title: Re: Anyone know of a good Napoleonic style war game?
Post by: DREDIOCK on December 29, 2008, 08:29:46 PM
Wait a bit for this one, the rest of the series is great- I have two of the titles (Rome and Medieval) and attendant expansions from it.

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/36099.html

http://www.totalwar.com/

Hmmm I think I have Rome and Shogun.
My son used to play em but I never paid much attention to them.
Have to see if I can find them

I DL'ed the demo for Imperial Glory a couple of weeks ago. Its not bad
http://www.download.com/Imperial-Glory-demo/3000-7483_4-10378358.html

Screenshots here
http://www.gamespot.com/pc/strategy/imperialglory/images.html?om_act=convert&om_clk=gsimage&tag=images;header;more

video here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJrhFxcwP5o&feature=related

Like I said. Not bad. But I dont like the fact that you cant wheel your formations at an angle

What Im REALY waiting for and been waiting for a few years now is

Histwar: Les Grognards
http://www.battlefront.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=blogcategory&id=124&Itemid=174
Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j211HA83UXo



Title: Re: Anyone know of a good Napoleonic style war game?
Post by: Treize69 on December 29, 2008, 08:33:43 PM
Medieval II is incredible, and even more so with the Kingdoms expansion. Can play as the Teutonic Knights, plus theres a Britain Campaign (with the English, the Scots, the Welsh and the Irish), a Crusades Campaign (Kingdom of Jerusalem, Principality of Antioch, Turks, Egyptians, and Byzantines), and Americas (Spanish, several native tribes including the Aztecs and Maya, and the French and English come in later as non-playable factions). Almost limitless gameplay between all the factions, add-ons and options you can take during the course of the campaigns.
Title: Re: Anyone know of a good Napoleonic style war game?
Post by: KgB on December 29, 2008, 09:06:10 PM
I have an itch
buy I want something that will allow different formations.wheel left/right etc and will actually recognize the significance of being flanked.

too may remind me of Warcraft LOL
Little old tho
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v676/N22/kos.gif)http://www.cossacks2.de/
Title: Re: Anyone know of a good Napoleonic style war game?
Post by: CAV on December 29, 2008, 09:49:46 PM
Take Command - 2nd Manassas



http://madminutegames.com/


(http://madminutegames.com/Screenshots/20040924-1L.jpg)
Title: Re: Anyone know of a good Napoleonic style war game?
Post by: Treize69 on December 29, 2008, 09:54:57 PM
Nice avatar.  :aok
Title: Re: Anyone know of a good Napoleonic style war game?
Post by: Obie303 on December 30, 2008, 01:36:04 AM
Stratego?  (http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff186/obie303/strategocopy.jpg)
:D
Title: Re: Anyone know of a good Napoleonic style war game?
Post by: Cypher on December 30, 2008, 12:53:19 PM
Rise of Nations and it's expansion thrones and patriots, has an era for that type of warfare. In it you can go from the ancient age to the near future. Empires Dawn of the modern world is simply a pathetic rip off of Rise of nations
Title: Re: Anyone know of a good Napoleonic style war game?
Post by: Tango on December 30, 2008, 01:18:51 PM
Battlefrone is working on one now that I HOPE will be out soon. It will be a really good game if its anything like thier Combat Mission games were.

http://www.battlefront.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=blogcategory&id=124&Itemid=174
Title: Re: Anyone know of a good Napoleonic style war game?
Post by: DREDIOCK on December 30, 2008, 04:30:37 PM
Battlefrone is working on one now that I HOPE will be out soon. It will be a really good game if its anything like thier Combat Mission games were.

http://www.battlefront.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=blogcategory&id=124&Itemid=174

Thats "Histwar: Les Grognards". The one I said I have been waiting for.

Problem is. Its been "In delevopment" for like 4 years now LOL.

based on the films and screenshots they keep putting up for it.
Im starting to get convinced that they are having so much fun playing it by themselves. they dont wanna share LOL
Title: Re: Anyone know of a good Napoleonic style war game?
Post by: crazyivan on December 30, 2008, 07:05:33 PM
Rise of Nations and it's expansion thrones and patriots, has an era for that type of warfare. In it you can go from the ancient age to the near future. Empires Dawn of the modern world is simply a pathetic rip off of Rise of nations
Rise of nations lol, I get caught up into trying to build an empire. Maybe I should stick to the game Civilization.
Title: Re: Anyone know of a good Napoleonic style war game?
Post by: Urchin on December 30, 2008, 08:53:14 PM
Wait a bit for this one, the rest of the series is great- I have two of the titles (Rome and Medieval) and attendant expansions from it.

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/36099.html

http://www.totalwar.com/

They lost me with the buggy POS that was Medieval 2.  I definately will not be purchasing their new title.  Hell, I am just now considering the Kingdoms expansion pack because it looks as if modders have finally fixed all the issues with it.
Title: Re: Anyone know of a good Napoleonic style war game?
Post by: Tango on December 30, 2008, 08:57:29 PM
Thats "Histwar: Les Grognards". The one I said I have been waiting for.

Problem is. Its been "In delevopment" for like 4 years now LOL.

based on the films and screenshots they keep putting up for it.
Im starting to get convinced that they are having so much fun playing it by themselves. they dont wanna share LOL


Good thing is they aren't rushing it through and they keep giving out updates on it, so I figure it will be a good game when it does come out.
Title: Re: Anyone know of a good Napoleonic style war game?
Post by: CptTrips on December 30, 2008, 09:18:39 PM
I have an itch
buy I want something that will allow different formations.wheel left/right etc and will actually recognize the significance of being flanked.

too may remind me of Warcraft LOL

The best I ever played was TalonSoft's  "Battleground 3: Waterloo":

http://www2.worldvillage.com/wv/gamezone/html/reviews/water.htm

Wab
Title: Re: Anyone know of a good Napoleonic style war game?
Post by: Simaril on December 30, 2008, 10:00:37 PM
An old one but good one, if you can find it -- Age of Rifles.

Also, I remember that Sid Meier came out with a few in that general era, but think they were Civil War more than napoleonic.

Lastly -- haven't played any of their Napoleonic games, but I've had nothing but good experiences with products by Matrix Games. http://www.matrixgames.com/ (http://www.matrixgames.com/). They tend toward the grognard side, but they have some nice intermediate complexity games too. Not sure if they carry any of the "beer and pretzels" type wargames....

But can't tell you how many hours I've spent on, for example, "Uncommon Valor". Definitely worth checking out if you're any kind of wargamer. (Personally, I go back to Panzer Blitz, Third Reich, Tobruk, and the golden age of Avalon Hill boxed games...)
Title: Re: Anyone know of a good Napoleonic style war game?
Post by: Treize69 on December 30, 2008, 10:23:14 PM
They lost me with the buggy POS that was Medieval 2.  I definately will not be purchasing their new title.  Hell, I am just now considering the Kingdoms expansion pack because it looks as if modders have finally fixed all the issues with it.

 :confused:

I never had a problem with Medieval II since the day I bought it, and I don't know anyone else who has either. I have several friends and coworkers who play it, and we have all loved it since the day it came out. You're the first person I've herad mention it being "buggy".
Title: Re: Anyone know of a good Napoleonic style war game?
Post by: Curlew on December 30, 2008, 10:48:51 PM
yah, risk
Title: Re: Anyone know of a good Napoleonic style war game?
Post by: SmokinLoon on December 31, 2008, 12:27:49 AM
An old one but good one, if you can find it -- Age of Rifles.  
Also, I remember that Sid Meier came out with a few in that general era, but think they were Civil War more than napoleonic.

Lastly -- haven't played any of their Napoleonic games, but I've had nothing but good experiences with products by Matrix Games. http://www.matrixgames.com/ (http://www.matrixgames.com/). They tend toward the grognard side, but they have some nice intermediate complexity games too. Not sure if they carry any of the "beer and pretzels" type wargames....

But can't tell you how many hours I've spent on, for example, "Uncommon Valor". Definitely worth checking out if you're any kind of wargamer. (Personally, I go back to Panzer Blitz, Third Reich, Tobruk, and the golden age of Avalon Hill boxed games...)

I bought that game years ago to try and win the Battle of Isandlwana... try and I might I just oculdnt do it.  I think I may try again.  Thanks for remeinding me of that game.  :aok
Title: Re: Anyone know of a good Napoleonic style war game?
Post by: Urchin on December 31, 2008, 06:31:38 AM
:confused:

I never had a problem with Medieval II since the day I bought it, and I don't know anyone else who has either. I have several friends and coworkers who play it, and we have all loved it since the day it came out. You're the first person I've herad mention it being "buggy".

Just little things really, such as

- melee units with two handed swords wouldn't swing them in combat, they'd just stand there (that was fixed, I believe)

- units stop charging the instant one person is in combat.  The rest will just stop where they are and then saunter on in at their leisure.  This one really killed cavalry, and never was fixed by the company (looks like it may have finally been fixed by a modder though)

- when the Kingdoms expansion came out there were numerous HUGE bugs in the campaigns.  I don't feel like going into all of them, but the Danish / Eastern European one was bugged to hell and gone, and the American and English campaigns also had some (but not gamekilling ones like the Danish one)
Title: Re: Anyone know of a good Napoleonic style war game?
Post by: DREDIOCK on December 31, 2008, 06:47:26 AM
An old one but good one, if you can find it -- Age of Rifles.

Also, I remember that Sid Meier came out with a few in that general era, but think they were Civil War more than napoleonic.

Lastly -- haven't played any of their Napoleonic games, but I've had nothing but good experiences with products by Matrix Games. http://www.matrixgames.com/ (http://www.matrixgames.com/). They tend toward the grognard side, but they have some nice intermediate complexity games too. Not sure if they carry any of the "beer and pretzels" type wargames....

But can't tell you how many hours I've spent on, for example, "Uncommon Valor". Definitely worth checking out if you're any kind of wargamer. (Personally, I go back to Panzer Blitz, Third Reich, Tobruk, and the golden age of Avalon Hill boxed games...)

I have Age of Rifles I play using Dosbox. Still a fun game

Havent been able to find any of the Sid Meir games

I go back to the Avalon hill style games as well. "Blitzkreig", "Panzer Leader" And "Kreigspeil"
I WISH they came out with Avalon Hill Version of BlitzKreig for the PC.
I used to love that game
Title: Re: Anyone know of a good Napoleonic style war game?
Post by: thrila on December 31, 2008, 07:03:03 AM
Just little things really, such as

- melee units with two handed swords wouldn't swing them in combat, they'd just stand there (that was fixed, I believe)

- units stop charging the instant one person is in combat.  The rest will just stop where they are and then saunter on in at their leisure.  This one really killed cavalry, and never was fixed by the company (looks like it may have finally been fixed by a modder though)

- when the Kingdoms expansion came out there were numerous HUGE bugs in the campaigns.  I don't feel like going into all of them, but the Danish / Eastern European one was bugged to hell and gone, and the American and English campaigns also had some (but not gamekilling ones like the Danish one)

i'm a massive fan of the total war series but i was dissapointed with med 2 too.  I shall wait for reviews from magazines and gamers to decide whether i purchase empire or not. 
Title: Re: Anyone know of a good Napoleonic style war game?
Post by: druski85 on December 31, 2008, 09:24:34 AM
Just little things really, such as

- melee units with two handed swords wouldn't swing them in combat, they'd just stand there (that was fixed, I believe)

- units stop charging the instant one person is in combat.  The rest will just stop where they are and then saunter on in at their leisure.  This one really killed cavalry, and never was fixed by the company (looks like it may have finally been fixed by a modder though)

- when the Kingdoms expansion came out there were numerous HUGE bugs in the campaigns.  I don't feel like going into all of them, but the Danish / Eastern European one was bugged to hell and gone, and the American and English campaigns also had some (but not gamekilling ones like the Danish one)

Personally I loved that game, and still play it from time to time.  The only bug that REALLY bothered me was the charging one you mentioned, which slowed down an attack in a hurry.  If I recall though, this happened all the way back to classic Shogun: Total War.  Not sure, I havent played that one in years. 

Despite the rave reviews, the total war game that I really could never get into was Rome: TW. 

I cannot wait for the new one though :)
Title: Re: Anyone know of a good Napoleonic style war game?
Post by: CptTrips on December 31, 2008, 10:21:18 AM
Appearently Matrix Games now owns the rights to the batrtleground series.  That have the whole set in one box now.   Hmmmmm.

http://www.matrixgames.com/products/321/details/John.Tiller's.Battleground.Napoleonic.War s

Wab
Title: Re: Anyone know of a good Napoleonic style war game?
Post by: Angus on December 31, 2008, 10:31:12 AM
Rise of nations covers the era, it's much like Age of Empires really.
Some of those look great!
Since we are at this...Napoleon era Naval sim???????
Title: Re: Anyone know of a good Napoleonic style war game?
Post by: Treize69 on December 31, 2008, 11:30:21 AM
Despite the rave reviews, the total war game that I really could never get into was Rome: TW. 

Yeah, I can't really get into Rome either, and the Barrbarian expansion is even worse- no matter what faction I start as, and no matter if I don't do any recruiting or building, I'm always broke and full of revolts within ten turns. If I build to keep the poeple happy, theres no money to build, if I raise a small army to fight rebels, it drains my resources to nothing, and if I do nothing I lose half my provinces in 5 turns. No matter what faction, including small ones like the Saxons and Goths. Gets old fast.

I forgot about that Cavalry problem, mainly because I found out how to work around it within the first battle I fought- don't set them to charge a unit, set them to charge a point on the map. That way you A) Charge through them and not at them, getting much more impetus for the attack, and B) if the unit you're targeting moves or changes its formation, the chraging Cavalry doesn't stop to reassess the situation. They see the enemy as an obstacle, not the target.

Works great with Ritterbruder. The enemy usually flees as soon as they see them coming, then you can run them down or herd them toward your Infantry. 

(http://80thfs.homestead.com/motivator934055.jpg)
(http://80thfs.homestead.com/poster75252412.jpg)

Evil is Good.  :devil
Title: Re: Anyone know of a good Napoleonic style war game?
Post by: druski85 on December 31, 2008, 11:56:49 AM
Yea I would always have them charge a location as well treize, but they still stopped when they took a casualty.  However, sending them to a point would ensure they attack at the angle you wanted, so it was a good idea. 

Also, Angus in the new Total War they are making Naval combat a large part of the game.  (rightfully so, considering the premise)  It won't be a full ship simulator, but should have pretty strong ship-ship fighting mechanics. 
Title: Re: Anyone know of a good Napoleonic style war game?
Post by: Simaril on December 31, 2008, 02:04:52 PM
Rise of nations covers the era, it's much like Age of Empires really.
Some of those look great!
Since we are at this...Napoleon era Naval sim???????

Angus --

This has been on the wish list for a while. Way back there was a board game converted into a computer game, both called "wooden ships and iron men." Supposed to be really good on gameplay, though the graphics were weak even for the time. Since then haven't read of anything good enough to make me want to give it a try.

Only one I've found recently was on a website for Shrapnel Games. There's a game called "Salvo" that has a playable demo available for download. I've fiddled around with it and seems pretty good, though I haven't played it enough to give a review/recommendation. However, at that price....


And incidentally, shrapnel games also hosts both STEEL PANTHERS games, free for download. These were great fun, tank oriented tactical simulations with very nice implementation. They've been transferred to Windows mode, which the original company didnt want to do. These two (Steel Panthers and Steel Panthers: Modern Battles) get my five star thumbs up -- great games.
Title: Re: Anyone know of a good Napoleonic style war game?
Post by: Selino631 on December 31, 2008, 05:51:47 PM
I think the Age of Empires games are great.


Get this game right here   http://www.amazon.com/WWI-Great-War-Pc/dp/B0001DLMIU (http://www.amazon.com/WWI-Great-War-Pc/dp/B0001DLMIU) it is an amazing game. It is set up almost exactly like the AOE engine exept for better! You can have over 80,000 troops and you can build pillboxes, airplanes, warships. even gas!!!! And the AI is good cause they'll swarm your city with thousands of troops! Once i played a game on there that took me 180 hours to beat. you can play it online too.
Title: Re: Anyone know of a good Napoleonic style war game?
Post by: DREDIOCK on January 01, 2009, 01:12:26 AM
Thing about some of these games Im not looking for is as in the case of AOE the gameplay is almost identical to the original Warcraft series.
And while are fun fantasy type games in their own right. They dont really capture the art of warfare, maneuver , formations, etc

Here is an old one but still pretty good. cept that i've played it out

Feilds of glory
(http://static.greatgamesexperiment.com/userimages/7/73cd42aa7b14465dc0f1b99001e48992_sq.jpg)

Abandonware
Can be downloaded for free here
http://www.abandonia.com/en/games/106/Fields+of+Glory.html
Title: Re: Anyone know of a good Napoleonic style war game?
Post by: Simaril on January 01, 2009, 07:33:48 AM
Dred:

Thanks for that link! I've spent almost an hour cruising through the games list, bringing back tons of memories. May have to break out the old dosBox after all...
Title: Re: Anyone know of a good Napoleonic style war game?
Post by: DREDIOCK on January 01, 2009, 10:14:01 AM
Dred:

Thanks for that link! I've spent almost an hour cruising through the games list, bringing back tons of memories. May have to break out the old dosBox after all...

Your welcome,

If you dont feel like going through all the DOS commands. Or "mounting" the drives etc
I very highly recommend also downing a program to go with DOSbox called "DosBlaster"
Then you just go to the executable file for the game and in the menu you will see options to "run game" which you can click and just run the game.as well as "config game"
Right handy little utility.
You dont even have to run DOSBOX as it does it all for you
Makes setting up your system to run the game and running the game itself as simple as a click of the mouse.


LOL I didnt want to relearn Dos commands. I just wanted to play the old games
Title: Re: Anyone know of a good Napoleonic style war game?
Post by: splitatom on January 01, 2009, 10:17:33 AM
you could wait untill  march when empire total war come out but that is about the time of the napolinac wars
Title: Re: Anyone know of a good Napoleonic style war game?
Post by: Simaril on January 01, 2009, 10:39:17 AM
Remember that game "Carriers at War"? Was a DOS era game that did a very nice job of recreating the intensity and "fog" of WW2 carrier warfare. Anybody know of a similar game available now?

And just to be clear, this was more of a tactical sim, and NOT a RTS.


EDIT: Oops. Just did the google, and it turns out the game was recently redone -- and is available on Matrix Games.
Title: Re: Anyone know of a good Napoleonic style war game?
Post by: Blooz on January 01, 2009, 10:54:52 AM
Carriers at War

http://www.digitalriver.com/dr/v2/ec_Main.Entry17C?SID=45905&SP=10023&CID=0&PID=925009&PN=1&V1=925009&CUR=840&DSP=&PGRP=0&ABCODE=&CACHE_ID=0 (http://www.digitalriver.com/dr/v2/ec_Main.Entry17C?SID=45905&SP=10023&CID=0&PID=925009&PN=1&V1=925009&CUR=840&DSP=&PGRP=0&ABCODE=&CACHE_ID=0)
Title: Re: Anyone know of a good Napoleonic style war game?
Post by: Treize69 on August 19, 2009, 06:33:09 AM
This just came to my attention. Alert Alert Alert!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7RHiyWHuV0
Title: Re: Anyone know of a good Napoleonic style war game?
Post by: DREDIOCK on August 19, 2009, 06:59:37 AM
Looks good. thanks for the heads up.
Title: Re: Anyone know of a good Napoleonic style war game?
Post by: john9001 on August 19, 2009, 08:09:06 AM
did you notice right at the end it says "runs great on core i7"
Title: Re: Anyone know of a good Napoleonic style war game?
Post by: Vudak on August 19, 2009, 08:25:36 AM
There is absolutely no way in the most fiery depths of you-know-where that I will even consider buying that until at least 6 months have passed since its release.

I am fairly convinced the Creative Assembly has the worst quality control, play testing, and customer service divisions known to man.  I'm not paying full price for their rushed, crap products again.
Title: Re: Anyone know of a good Napoleonic style war game?
Post by: Fulmar on August 19, 2009, 01:44:20 PM
Wow, that CGI Napoleon was some of the best I've seen, especially the mouth movements.
Title: Re: Anyone know of a good Napoleonic style war game?
Post by: Motherland on August 19, 2009, 02:29:48 PM
WTF, Empire: Total War just came out a few months ago! (Great game though...)
Oh Winter 2010 nvm :)
Title: Re: Anyone know of a good Napoleonic style war game?
Post by: vonKrimm on August 19, 2009, 02:39:57 PM
How about: Crown of Glory: Emperor’s Edition over a Matrixgames.com?  They also have several other Napie game titles that look viable.  I myself am waiting for the conversion of ADG's World in Flames into a pc game; heard it will be finished in two weeks.
Title: Re: Anyone know of a good Napoleonic style war game?
Post by: Treize69 on August 19, 2009, 05:22:33 PM
I laugh uproariously at the fact that he's burning the HMS Victory at the end.  :devil