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Title: pick
Post by: Clone155 on January 04, 2009, 12:55:37 PM
What is the difference between a BnZ and a Pick? i always thought them the same, but some one confronted me and told me different, and that a pick is when you kill some one who is already chasing someone else. Can someone enlighten me?
Title: Re: pick
Post by: 1pLUs44 on January 04, 2009, 12:56:07 PM
A pick is whenever you're shot down, a BnZ is when you shoot someone else down :P
Title: Re: pick
Post by: Saxman on January 04, 2009, 01:18:04 PM
BnZ is more specifically a method of engagement: Hit and run tactics combined with energy management. Ideally you hit at high speed, then extend--usually in the vertical--and repeat. The REAL object is to maintain separation of no more than 2-3k, concentrated in the vertical, and making repeated slashing passes and utilizing other E-fighting techniques until your target runs out of energy. If executed properly you shouldn't extend outside of 3000 yards before reversing, which keeps your opponent entirely on the defensive and denies him an opportunity to equalize the situation.

Don't confuse it with Tempests, Ponies and Doras making mach speed passes from outside of icon range and retreating BACK outside icon range as soon as they miss.
Title: Re: pick
Post by: E25280 on January 04, 2009, 01:19:11 PM
BnZ is a combat tactic in which you maintain an alt/E advantage over your target.  See Saxman above.

A pick is any time you blindside an enemy who is engaged.  Picks therefore do not have to come from the top-down (i.e. you can rise up to a fight and pick someone), but this is usually how they are done.

Title: Re: pick
Post by: LYNX on January 04, 2009, 01:20:56 PM
What is the difference between a BnZ and a Pick? i always thought them the same, but some one confronted me and told me different, and that a pick is when you kill some one who is already chasing someone else. Can someone enlighten me?

Picking or cherry picking is as you have been told.  Killing a con already engaged.  BnZ is using "E" advantage to zoom on your foe, shoot n scoot.

The term "Pick" is the most misused word in AH when they infact should be saying BnZ. 
Title: Re: pick
Post by: Morpheus on January 04, 2009, 01:22:39 PM
BnZ is how you pick.
Title: Re: pick
Post by: Bronk on January 04, 2009, 02:46:20 PM


The term "Pick" is the most misused word in AH when they infact should be saying BnZ. 

No rammed is.  :noid :D
Title: Re: pick
Post by: Anaxogoras on January 04, 2009, 03:06:54 PM
What is the difference between a BnZ and a Pick? i always thought them the same, but some one confronted me and told me different, and that a pick is when you kill some one who is already chasing someone else. Can someone enlighten me?

A pick is when you kill some one who is already chasing someone else.

The person who confronted you is correct.  Boom n' Zoom just means using a superior energy state to make a guns pass at a target and then turning that kinetic energy (speed) back into potential energy (altitude).
Title: Re: pick
Post by: Masherbrum on January 04, 2009, 04:43:31 PM
BnZ is how you pick.

Chigga flicka! 
Title: Re: pick
Post by: stroker71 on January 04, 2009, 04:49:53 PM
The term "Pick" is the most misused word in AH when they infact should be saying BnZ. 

No the most misused word is HO.  True HO is when both planes have a firing solution. 
Title: Re: pick
Post by: stodd on January 04, 2009, 04:56:07 PM
Bronk, your quotes make me laugh. :lol
Title: Re: pick
Post by: Bronk on January 04, 2009, 05:00:04 PM
Bronk, your quotes make me laugh. :lol
:noid

They are suppose to....

or are they...

 :noid
Title: Re: pick
Post by: Anaxogoras on January 04, 2009, 05:27:28 PM
No the most misused word is HO.  True HO is when both planes have a firing solution. 

...And that, boys and girls, is how a 27 page thread starts. :P
Title: Re: pick
Post by: 1pLUs44 on January 04, 2009, 05:31:09 PM
...And that, boys and girls, is how a 27 page thread starts. :P

I laugh, when I kill someone who was going vert, and they call HO because it' was a complete side shot.
Title: Re: pick
Post by: John Curnutte on January 04, 2009, 10:20:52 PM
 And shoot by alot of what you read today in forums a ho is from 6 o'clock low LOL really the explanations are great guys. :eek:
                      Nutte
Title: Re: pick
Post by: Murdr on January 04, 2009, 10:31:18 PM
What is the difference between a BnZ and a Pick? i always thought them the same, but some one confronted me and told me different, and that a pick is when you kill some one who is already chasing someone else. Can someone enlighten me?

Well.  There's This page from the Trainers Site (http://trainers.hitechcreations.com/abbreviations/abbreviations.htm) which has a long list of AH radio terms (BnZ has its own page (http://trainers.hitechcreations.com/bnz/bnz.htm))

For the too lazy to click links crowd...
bnz - Boom and Zoom, a fighter air combat tactic. See "Boom and Zoom". (from the AHWiki common terms page)
cherry (pick) - Attacking an enemy already engaged with another plane
HO - head on. A nose to nose shot. Often frowned on, especially by the loser



Title: Re: pick
Post by: JunkyII on January 04, 2009, 11:03:01 PM
Im pretty good at picking but it honestly helped me with not getting picked, I think it was a video of Bmathis where he has like 5 P-51s all diving in on him and he just keeps avioding, really helpful video if your trying to learn reverses for those bloody pickers. :salute
Title: Re: pick
Post by: Larry on January 05, 2009, 12:31:26 AM
I laugh, when I kill someone who was going vert, and they call HO because it' was a complete side shot.

I love it when I take someone up for the rope and blast them while they are flopping around at the top and cry HO when they are back in the tower.


Most people think a pick is when someone drops in from a higher alt and kills you. Iv had people say that they didn't pick me because they were co-alt with me when they picked me. It seems noobs throw terms around without knowing what the meaning is.

Just the other day someone was saying I was "picking" because I had altitude and would rope him sending him to the tower every time he tried to shoot at me.