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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: SirLoin on February 04, 2009, 09:04:49 AM
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i've been though several online flight sims over the years(AW3,WB,EAW) and nothing comes close to Aces High.And it has been that way for many years.You fly with guys/gals,pass through several squads & you stop,look around at the friends that are still in orange off your left wing.After Busher's Hornets merged with Jokers,it went from the point of stagnation(& leaving the game) to a new level of enthusiasm and wanting to log on to see who's on.
From my perspective Jokers Jokers has to be THE best base capture squad in AH history.That's what we do..that and get the nme's panties tied into knots.Thus we become the target of individual attacks on the BBS..Which is fine(comes with the territory).
At the core of this migration of excellent people/pilots to our squad,is our XO Joker.An excellent leader(& recruiter)..the tamer of squeakers(you know who you are)..And a pure pleasure to fly with(HT should pay this guy..then Joker gives us a cut $) :D
These are the reasons I fly now more than ever..
1:Joker
2:Busher
3:Ghi
4:SlammerX
5:Bosco
6:Alka
7:Grewsome
8:Attilla
9:Sedonna
10:U2007
11:Seano
12:Krappy
13:Twizzty
14:Pieper
15:Kdweeb
16:Skully
17:HeavyD
18:Bongboy
19:Towdog
20:Yawrate
21:Stukka
22:Fitzy
23:Online
24:Spite
25:Mike1959
26:Knacks
These are the reasons we dominate the MA in base captures...Our tactics(eg.smash & grab) were perfected by us and now widely copied.We have some excellant map readers too which always helps.
I challenge any squad to post a role call of squaddies that you think compares to ours.(base captures & MA dominance)
This cohesion and co-operative teamwork of these fine pilots is only made possible by one person..
JOKER :salute
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I have respect for some of the guys on that list including you sirloin but some of the tactics i've seen employed can only be described as detrimental to gameplay.
I'm sure its fun from one perspective but definately overkill from another.
Out of all the Bish mega Sqwads I believe Jokers to be right up there with the best of them :salute
Edit: sign up to the Squad dueling league.
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I have respect for some of the guys on that list including you sirloin but some of the tactics i've seen employed can only be described as detrimental to gameplay.
I'm sure its fun from one perspective but definately overkill from another.
Out of all the Bish mega Sqwads I believe Jokers to be right up there with the best of them :salute
i second that :salute
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I like flying with Joker and company, actually posts F4U-4 and -1C missions. :salute
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Whoopdy-Do. Hurray for you. And the rest of us should care...why?
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I love target rich environments.
:aok
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I love target rich environments.
:aok
:aok
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rofl. MA dominance? :lol
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No doubt Jokers do an excellent job and I always enjoy their missions. However, I'd like to see some stats on that. There are other squads that do quite well too.
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I find this amazing since the game does not rely on base capture. The game is about fights. But if it makes you feel better tooting your horn so be it.
This type of post means more if posted by someone other than yourself patting yourself on the back.
Personally you can have the bases... I only need one to up from and find a fight.
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I find this amazing since the game does not rely on base capture. The game is about fights. But if it makes you feel better tooting your horn so be it.
This type of post means more if posted by someone other than yourself patting yourself on the back.
Personally you can have the bases... I only need one to up from and find a fight.
No, He's not back patting. He's honoring his squad and appreciates their contribution.
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sorry but cant call ur self best base capture squad when u never take bases by your squad alone. always see jokes err jokers behind
30 to 50 other lemming in horde capture. like last night 40+ planes @ P109, 5 sorties, base still knits, and i think i counted
20+ 234s killed LOL......too funny
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sorry but cant call ur self best base capture squad when u never take bases by your squad alone. always see jokes err jokers behind
30 to 50 other lemming in horde capture. like last night 40+ planes @ P109, 5 sorties, base still knits, and i think i counted
20+ 234s killed LOL......too funny
I think that was the MOM not jokers. I'm not sure what their goal was.
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Yeah takeing undefended bases with 30+ guys and 5 goons NOE ...now thats skill there :rofl My squad can do the same thing with 4 guys. be proud kids one day you'll realize the whole horde mentality is just an embarrasment.
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LOL
What I find funny (sad really) is that you went from a guy who was well respected and widely viewed as a solid stick/good guy to a shell of your former self...and you think this is a good thing? Personally I think the jokers are aptly named and a pox on the game (along with all the rest of the tardlets)
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Sorry Beef I just had ta!!
Everyone finds enjoyment in different ways in the game. <S> Jokers
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Get your suits out boys, this one's gonna get hot.
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These are the reasons we dominate the MA in base captures...
*yawn*
up - getting killed - reup from the CVs .. seen so many times doing that by the jokers
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1/10 on the troll 'o' meter
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Rubber worm? ::spit::
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I know the jokers are on top of the headhunting list for the pigs
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These are the reasons we dominate the MA in base captures...Our tactics(eg.smash & grab) were perfected by us and now widely copied.We have some excellant map readers too which always helps.
Does your squad offer map reading training? That seems to be my biggest weekness. I'm forever flying in circles trying to find the enemy. Some days I fly for hours on end and never see another plane. Please help me.
In all seriousness, I would like to quote Pen & Teller, "the best is BS."
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Awesome Smokey!!
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OOOhhhh man,,,,, :rofl
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Yet another reason why AH is going down hill. :uhoh
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<-------leans back, cracks a beer, and looks forward to the show! :D
Somebody got the popcorn?
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This thread needs hit sprites.
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Our tactics(eg.smash & grab) were perfected by us and now widely copied.
Whats copied...exactly? And by whom?
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WOW, some awsome pictures posted in this one so far :D
Lute is winning at this point though :rofl
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"Re: Jokers Jokers(#1 Base Capture Squad in AH)"
Congratulations. You are now ranked right up there with the SOARs. :O
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Public announcement:
Gutless Gastropods had 1 field capture in LW Tour 108
WTG Gastropods! Keep up the good work!
:D
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I don't have to agree with their style of play, but I'll tell ya what. I accepted Jokers invitation the the DA and he just smoked me 2 out of 2 in a plane he doesn't much and one that I do all the time. That impressed me. I don't consider myself a uber stick but I do think I'm pretty desent most of the time.Top of the average 3 or 4 year player.
But he showed me he is a class above skill level then me. The way him and Ghi can gather such a crowd of friend and foe alike, I think is a testament to their leadership abilitys. I've been in Ghis and jokers missions before, and they take control and focus on the objective at hand. I don't have to like it, but I do have to respect that. :salute
The squad is so big that they have a good mix of guys at all skill levels. I've absolutely hunted these guys, knowing I would get the biggest pleasure killing them or madder then a wet hen dieing to them. The squad I love to hate :devil
No matter they're game style, they're hard to fight at times. And I'd rather have a hard fight then a easy one. :aok
DISCLAIMER: If any of this sounds like I'm praising them, let the record show that I'm under the influence of fine Kentucky bourbon at the time of publishing.(http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk121/TheAmish/avatar_10579.gif)
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ROFL. :lol :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
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Public announcement:
Gutless Gastropods had 1 field capture in LW Tour 108
WTG Gastropods! Keep up the good work!
:D
:rofl :rofl WTG Lusche! <-----golf claps :lol
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It's kind of like being the skinniest kid at the, "Fat Kid Camp". Congratulations though! :huh
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Where is DaveyJ??? :lol
I don't see him on the list. Back when I was flying he was one of the most active Jokers. :rock
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I don't have to agree with their style of play, but I'll tell ya what. I accepted Jokers invitation the the DA and he just smoked me 2 out of 2 in a plane he doesn't much and one that I do all the time. That impressed me. I don't consider myself a uber stick but I do think I'm pretty desent most of the time.Top of the average 3 or 4 year player.
But he showed me he is a class above skill level then me. The way him and Ghi can gather such a crowd of friend and foe alike, I think is a testament to their leadership abilitys. I've been in Ghis and jokers missions before, and they take control and focus on the objective at hand. I don't have to like it, but I do have to respect that. :salute
The squad is so big that they have a good mix of guys at all skill levels. I've absolutely hunted these guys, knowing I would get the biggest pleasure killing them or madder then a wet hen dieing to them. The squad I love to hate :devil
No matter they're game style, they're hard to fight at times. And I'd rather have a hard fight then a easy one. :aok
Uptown,
You've hit one of the core problems in the game (IMO). Jokers a good stick, so is sirloin, ghi and many of the others...I've got no issues at all that its a reasonably talented bunch. Yet invariably they are just a rolling horde 90% of the time. On those rare occasions they do face any real resistance Joker (among others) squeals like a stuck pig just as well as anyone on 200. Basically the Jokers are an extension of the chickenbleep game play to a bunch of guys who should know better...
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This post is 6 months and 11 days late. http://greensimplefrugal.blogspot.com/2008/07/pat-yourself-on-back-day.html (http://greensimplefrugal.blogspot.com/2008/07/pat-yourself-on-back-day.html)
:D
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These are the reasons we dominate the MA in base captures...Our tactics(eg.smash & grab) were perfected by us and now widely copied.We have some excellant map readers too which always helps.
JOKER :salute
These are the reasons we dominate the MA in base captures...Our tactics(eg.smash & grab) were perfected by us and now widely copied.We have some excellant map readers too which always helps.
JOKER :salute
Your squad didn't invent anything, your tactics are nothing new, people been doing them for years. You guys do them well, but you have not invented anything new.
Helm ...out
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Your squad didn't invent anything, your tactics are nothing new, people been doing them for years. You guys do them well, but you have not invented anything new.
Helm ...out
Rgr that Helm :salute
Who was the first though?..Mayb e a thread initself?
I maen "Smash & GarB" ?
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Yeah takeing undefended bases with 30+ guys and 5 goons NOE ...now thats skill there :rofl My squad can do the same thing with 4 guys. be proud kids one day you'll realize the whole horde mentality is just an embarrasment.
I'll second that! :lol
There's a reason that HiTech made squads 32 members. Groups of 50-75+ rolling bases is just a Joke and detrimental to game play.
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Smash an Grab? LTARs been doing that for 4 years that I know of with fewer peeps. :aok
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I agree with ya 100% Snap. But lately I've been lookin' at the MA as practice for special events. The scoring system is fubar and I could careless about perk points. Running in a hoarde is just a phaze almost everyone goes through I think. I did, and do sometimes now. And you probably did also at one point. I think most of them will tire of it eventually and move on, but who knows?
They can have the MA. All I really want to do is be the best wingman I can be when I do log on. And hope that they have ponys ibn the next FSO.
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Public announcement:
Gutless Gastropods had 1 field capture in LW Tour 108
WTG Gastropods! Keep up the good work!
:D
The Wingmen beat you. We had 4... Nanner nanner.
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The Wingmen beat you. We had 4... Nanner nanner.
You have 300% more members... hordeboys! :P
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Individually, the members of Jokers Jokers, are competent sticks. Collectively as a whole, they are nothing more than a troop of chimpanzees, who scream and fling poo. To paraphrase K, in Men in Black; An individual squad member of Jokers Jokers is an intelligent, competent, decent person. Jokers jokers squad is a group of stupid, hoarding, animals.
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I'll second that! :lol
There's a reason that HiTech made squads 32 members. Groups of 50-75+ rolling bases is just a Joke and detrimental to game play.
There are few things that are detrimental to the game play but that isn't one of them. Just the fact that so many join tells you that is what many people enjoy. You can add to the fact that all countries do it too. As far as bragging about capturing bases with just 3 or 4 guys that is nothing. I see where folks capture bases by themselves all the time. I saw a knight capture a vbase by himself on Titanic Tuesday. So be it with the knight that did it. Bish should have been more alert.
What really confounds me is that this was a positive post and yet so many said so many negative things.
This should be right up your alley Shawk. The scoring sytem is detrimental to the game. Most of it depends on milk runs that totally avoid fights. Then once you complete the stats you want you don't bomb, you don't hop into a pt boat. You don't do anything that might put those stats on the line. BTW I figured out how you got a 1300% in damage % on pt boats. I won't say what it is here but it is the lamest thing I ever saw. I haven't tried it in attack mode but I bet it carries over to attack mode as well. I pray that Hitech fixes this with the update.
By comparison any noe, even with a 100 people, is not so lame as the scoring system. If you were truly concerned about what was detrimental to the game I know you would have contacted Hitech on the matter as I have.
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What really confounds me is that this was a positive post and yet so many said so many negative things.
It's the internet, if you have nothing nice to say then by all means speak up.
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It's the internet, if you have nothing nice to say then by all means speak up.
:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
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i've been though several online flight sims over the years(AW3,WB,EAW) and nothing comes close to Aces High.......After Busher's Hornets merged with Jokers,it went from the point of stagnation(& leaving the game) to a new level of enthusiasm and wanting to log on to see who's on.
These are the reasons I fly now more than ever..
1:Joker
2:Busher
3:Ghi
4:SlammerX
5:Bosco
6:Alka
7:Grewsome
8:Attilla
9:Sedonna
10:U2007
11:Seano
12:Krappy
13:Twizzty
14:Pieper
15:Kdweeb
16:Skully
17:HeavyD
18:Bongboy
19:Towdog
20:Yawrate
21:Stukka
22:Fitzy
23:Online
24:Spite
25:Mike1959
26:Knacks
I challenge any squad to post a role call of squaddies that you think compares to ours.(base captures & MA dominance)
This cohesion and co-operative teamwork of these fine pilots is only made possible by one person..
JOKER :salute
good for you, Sirlion! I am glad you found something that makes ya enjoy logging on and flying, instead of hanging it up.....
as for the challenge, I will put forth my Squad "The Damned" and challenge you on any and every aspect of base capture, squad vs squad duel, base capture and hold, base defend from capture, is your pockets deep enough to take the challenge? :devil
also, wtg Joker for pulling together a group that enjoys each others company and has fun flying/participating together.......
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What really confounds me is that this was a positive post and yet so many said so many negative things.
A positive post?:confused: It was pure, unadulterated self promotion. As for the negative things said...geez, somebody rolls onto a Indy car race track and proclaims.... "My boys are the GREATEST Big Wheel drivers EVER!!" and people aren't supposed to point and laugh? Base capture is, without doubt, the EASIEST aspect of the game. Give me 2 weeks with a bunch of 10 year olds...and they can be the #1 Base Capture Squad in AH. :rolleyes:
BTW, on the Lame-O-Meter, this thread ranks right up there with Egohrt's thread blowin' his own horn about the same tripe. Sheesh.
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You have 300% more members... hordeboys! :P
You need to get your spreadsheet out. We only have 100% more members but we do have 300% more captures. We Da Men!
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Base capture is, without doubt, the EASIEST aspect of the game. Give me 2 weeks with a bunch of 10 year olds...and they can be the #1 Base Capture Squad in AH. :rolleyes:
Well, in Ah we always have a big bunch of 10 year olds looking for a clan, err squad. I'm eagerly looking forward for you to prove that theory :aok
:D
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You need to get your spreadsheet out. We only have 100% more members but we do have 300% more captures. We Da Men!
The MGVA has you beat Baldeagl with 11 captures and only one member in the squad. (Well really it's an association not a squad) :rofl :rofl Howsoever, it is usually in conjunction with others efforts.
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as for the challenge, I will put forth my Squad "The Damned" and challenge you on any and every aspect of base capture, squad vs squad duel, base capture and hold, base defend from capture, is your pockets deep enough to take the challenge? :devil
I'm your huckleberry.
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Well, in Ah we always have a big bunch of 10 year olds looking for a clan, err squad. I'm eagerly looking forward for you to prove that theory :aok
Guilds Lusche, the 10 year olds are looking for guilds :aok
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You need to get your spreadsheet out. We only have 100% more members but we do have 300% more captures. We Da Men!
Squads in AHII is showing 3 Members. Gastropods have 1.
Ok, that's 200% more :o
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Guilds Lusche, the 10 year olds are looking for guilds :aok
My bad, but I have read "clan" much more often than guilds ;)
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Dang. AoM had 2 base captures last tour.... we'll work on that. The offending parties shall be thoroughly beaten about the head and shoulders. This is unacceptable! 0 FTW!
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I don't have to agree with their style of play, but I'll tell ya what. I accepted Jokers invitation the the DA and he just smoked me 2 out of 2 in a plane he doesn't much and one that I do all the time. That impressed me. I don't consider myself a uber stick but I do think I'm pretty desent most of the time.Top of the average 3 or 4 year player.
But he showed me he is a class above skill level then me. The way him and Ghi can gather such a crowd of friend and foe alike, I think is a testament to their leadership abilitys. I've been in Ghis and jokers missions before, and they take control and focus on the objective at hand. I don't have to like it, but I do have to respect that. :salute
The squad is so big that they have a good mix of guys at all skill levels. I've absolutely hunted these guys, knowing I would get the biggest pleasure killing them or madder then a wet hen dieing to them. The squad I love to hate :devil
No matter they're game style, they're hard to fight at times. And I'd rather have a hard fight then a easy one. :aok
DISCLAIMER: If any of this sounds like I'm praising them, let the record show that I'm under the influence of fine Kentucky bourbon at the time of publishing.(http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk121/TheAmish/avatar_10579.gif)
Uptown I never knew it.
But I learned after our trip to the DA and you have solidified it here with you're post,
Uptown You Are A Class Act.
I only wish more people in this game had the same character that you show.
Sometimes I wonder how all the incessant flaming makes other's feel better?
I will choose the high ground here enough said.
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Dang. AoM had 2 base captures last tour.... we'll work on that. The offending parties shall be thoroughly beaten about the head and shoulders. This is unacceptable! 0 FTW!
You did?! I'm stunned (I'm being honest here too)
BTW I see where Zazen got his dues caught up....................finally . :lol :lol
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Well, in Ah we always have a big bunch of 10 year olds looking for a clan, err squad. I'm eagerly looking forward for you to prove that theory :aok
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Damn, my bad.
I meant to say 10 year old CHIMPANZEES! :devil
BTW, it isn't clan or guild...its "team". RAH RAH!! :rofl
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What, people still take bases in this game? It's not like the war can be won now.
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One of the very best base taking squads in this game was the MAW. They invented ways to take bases back in AW that no one else thought of. After AW ended they came here and invented even more which have been copied many times over since those beginning years.
I'll admit, it is hard to organize large groups of people and Jokers Jokers have done that well but have always had a BAD REP for the way they fly and for the people they choose to recruit. The roster is full of jack As's, cry babies and squeakers but together they get things done. I'm sure Joker has done his best to try and quell his smack talkers in an attempt to become more of a respectable squad but IMO the Jokers will always be one of the most underhanded squeaker squads in AH. Comparing them to the SOAR of 07 08 might be going a little far but it's close enough to make a tie in.
The A8's in their prime have taken more bases with less guys than the Jokers ever will and they've done it with a whole lot more class. Unlike yours, that squad will always remain a respected name to go up against because of the honor and respect they given to the community.
The Jokers have changed the game a bit, but for the worse not the better. Either way I congratulate you on your success to organize large groups of easy to shoot players working toward common goals for the shortest amount of time before regrouping. Defending is another story. Your teams ability to find flaws within the game and manipulate them to your advantage is just outstanding!
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WOW, some aw some pictures posted in this one so far :D
Lute is winning at this point though :rofl
(http://i528.photobucket.com/albums/dd329/TwizztyAH/envy1.jpg)
:lol
All kidding aside though, we have alot of fun together and weather we take a base or just steal all of Jokers kills...it's always alot of fun.
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Nevermind
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I'll respond to that with a question Joker. Do you really feel that as a squad you guys are a "class act"? I don't.
That is in no way meant to be a flame but it is an honest observation. I think the game has suffered a lot from the borg collective mentality as it is. When a squad with seasoned mix of skilled players not only contributes but accelerates the trend I've got no problem venting my spleen. You guys have the skill and coordination to aggressively contest disputed area's but invariably what I see is the bish horde in one place, the rook horde in a second and our own idiots (knight) in a third. None of you are actually fighting strength on strength except by mistake IMO. whats funny is that when you do get into a real fight you whine on 200...which you never did before that I recall. It seems harder and harder to find you guys in a good fight, either you have tremendous numbers or when you get contested you melt away. I'm sorry but I dont see how a bunch of seasoned sticks playing digital dirt hide and seek horde monkey is a good thing.
That is not meant as an attack on you personally or anyone in the squad. I hope in time you guys will evolve into the type of squad you can be. In the meantime I guess I have to agree with TC to a point in that it might be better then the alternative...
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What really confounds me is that this was a positive post and yet so many said so many negative things.
When you scream "look at me" in the public square, you surrender your right to be picky about the quality of attention you'll get in response. Positive posts my ***...It could have been a positive post, but the self-inflating BS pretty much canceled out the positives.
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What a friggin waste of disk space. Invented what crap. Blow that out your arse.
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Humble.
I believe what i said was Uptown was a class act.
I will not comment here on whether or not I feel my squad is anything other than a group of guys who have fun flying together.
As far as me whining on 200. I rarely even tune 200 and then i usually tune it out mentally. Now if some Bigmouth verbally attacks me or my squadies i will usually invite them to DA and watch them cower.
Most takers have been banished without much trouble.
But Please understand I don't claim to be the best and never will.
There are many better sticks out there.
I'm just a guy trying to have fun and helping others do so in the process.
I appologize for not doing it your way.
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I challenge any squad to post a role call of squaddies that you think compares to ours.(MA dominance)
~~NO EVIL~~ and with about 1/10 the # of pilots. :D :aok
This thread is going to get funny.
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I guess I have cancel my account cause I just cant compete with this sort of Dominance :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
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Unlike yours, that squad will always remain a respected name to go up against because of the honor and respect they given to the community.
If members of the A8 squad keep vulching shade accounts for rank, I think any honor or respect by the community won't be so forthcoming in the future.
ack-ack
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OOOHhh man this is gonna get mo goooda :lol
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Ack-Ack after your skuzzification of your other thread I would think you would leave the shade vulching topic alone, just a thought :eek:
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Ack Ack Got Skuzzified :O :O :O???
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Is that the hammer of the HTC gods I hear coming down!?
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Ack-Ack after your skuzzification the your other thread I would think you would leave the shade vulching topic alone, just a thought :eek:
nothing I posted in this thread is a violation of any of the forum rules. So I suggest you re-read the forum rules before you try back seat moderation. Thank you and you're dismissed.
ack-ack
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If members of the A8 squad keep vulching shade accounts for rank, I think any honor or respect by the community won't be so forthcoming in the future.
ack-ack
I believe Tools has left A8. Correct me if I am wrong.
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oh yea I forgot you dominate the BBS as well, (bows and withdraws) I suspect skuzzification of this thread is not far off. :aok
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Humble.
I believe what i said was Uptown was a class act.
I will not comment here on whether or not I feel my squad is anything other than a group of guys who have fun flying together.
As far as me whining on 200. I rarely even tune 200 and then i usually tune it out mentally. Now if some Bigmouth verbally attacks me or my squadies i will usually invite them to DA and watch them cower.
Most takers have been banished without much trouble.
But Please understand I don't claim to be the best and never will.
There are many better sticks out there.
I'm just a guy trying to have fun and helping others do so in the process.
I appologize for not doing it your way.
I appreciate your response, and no "apology" is required. In fact I recognize the stark realities for many of us with regard to "trying to have fun". If I hadn't have stumbled across 71 Squadron I'd have been long gone. I don't have an answer or a simplistic "right way" but I do feel that giving in totally to the "dark side" is wrong.
Does that mean everyone needs to tool around in SBD's...of course not. but whens the last time you guys ran a "fun mission" like a stuka raid or P-40B fighter sweep? You've certainly got the talent for it. As for the 200 stuff, I see you on 200 every weekend i'm up and I'll jump in as easily as the next guy. In fact we've had this conversation on 200 to a degree...the truth is its getting harder and harder to find "good fights" and I miss running into you sirloin and the others in roughly "even" settings. You didn't create the problem but I do think you contribute to it. In fact I believe your sensitivity on 200 at times is an indication it wears on you at times. Just my thoughts... :salute
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JKRS JOKRS PWN
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wow. almost as lame as wtg'ing each other for an NOE base steal... :rolleyes:
Now if some Bigmouth verbally attacks me or my squadies i will usually invite them to DA and watch them cower.
Most takers have been banished without much trouble.
Thats rich. Shall we post films?
While your in the thread would you mind answering a question? Doesn't it seem a bit egocentric to have a squad named after yourself?
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If members of the A8 squad keep vulching shade accounts for rank, I think any honor or respect by the community won't be so forthcoming in the future.
ack-ack
In defense of the A8's and as i strongly pointed out in that exposing thread, NO OTHER A8 was ever involved in that particular player deed. Not one of the A8's knew what he had done until months after the fact. That particular member is no longer with the Aces for his own reasons.
Ack Ack, I agree with you that it's unacceptable for any honorable squad to take part in those type of actions but one bad apple should not bring down a whole squad... especially if they did not know what was going on which was in fact the case there.
EDIT: I believe Tools has left A8. Correct me if I am wrong.
No I'm not with the A8's anymore and vulching a second account is not within my character.
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There are few things that are detrimental to the game play but that isn't one of them. Just the fact that so many join tells you that is what many people enjoy. You can add to the fact that all countries do it too. As far as bragging about capturing bases with just 3 or 4 guys that is nothing. I see where folks capture bases by themselves all the time. I saw a knight capture a vbase by himself on Titanic Tuesday. So be it with the knight that did it. Bish should have been more alert.
What really confounds me is that this was a positive post and yet so many said so many negative things.
This should be right up your alley Shawk. The scoring sytem is detrimental to the game. Most of it depends on milk runs that totally avoid fights. Then once you complete the stats you want you don't bomb, you don't hop into a pt boat. You don't do anything that might put those stats on the line. BTW I figured out how you got a 1300% in damage % on pt boats. I won't say what it is here but it is the lamest thing I ever saw. I haven't tried it in attack mode but I bet it carries over to attack mode as well. I pray that Hitech fixes this with the update.
By comparison any noe, even with a 100 people, is not so lame as the scoring system. If you were truly concerned about what was detrimental to the game I know you would have contacted Hitech on the matter as I have.
Dude, I've posted in here many times that the scoring system is a Joke, I've simply proved it time and time again. So whats your real point? :rolleyes:
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good for you, Sirlion! I am glad you found something that makes ya enjoy logging on and flying, instead of hanging it up.....
as for the challenge, I will put forth my Squad "The Damned" and challenge you on any and every aspect of base capture, squad vs squad duel, base capture and hold, base defend from capture, is your pockets deep enough to take the challenge? :devil
also, wtg Joker for pulling together a group that enjoys each others company and has fun flying/participating together.......
I gotta give TC some props; his responses are usually informative, sensitive, and never demeaning... :aok As for most of yas :P
Jokers are fun to fly with, I'm bish and have flown with them before... It's not much different from the Knit, and Rook base takes though; Perhaps just a little less time to get 'er done. :D
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Don't take my posts in the wrong sense. Jokers have some good sticks without question. I'm simply stating that taking bases by simply eliminating the fight (everything dead and no way to defend it) is simple and no one will convince me otherwise. Thus eliminating the fight is detrimental to game play. It's like watching a wrestling match with one opponent. Nuff said.
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I appreciate your response, and no "apology" is required. In fact I recognize the stark realities for many of us with regard to "trying to have fun". If I hadn't have stumbled across 71 Squadron I'd have been long gone. I don't have an answer or a simplistic "right way" but I do feel that giving in totally to the "dark side" is wrong.
Does that mean everyone needs to tool around in SBD's...of course not. but whens the last time you guys ran a "fun mission" like a stuka raid or P-40B fighter sweep? You've certainly got the talent for it. As for the 200 stuff, I see you on 200 every weekend i'm up and I'll jump in as easily as the next guy. In fact we've had this conversation on 200 to a degree...the truth is its getting harder and harder to find "good fights" and I miss running into you sirloin and the others in roughly "even" settings. You didn't create the problem but I do think you contribute to it. In fact I believe your sensitivity on 200 at times is an indication it wears on you at times. Just my thoughts... :salute
Humble you seem like an intelligent individual and therefore i am willing to have this discussion, and you're right it is harder and harder to find a good fight and when you do u inevitibly get ganged by LaLa's and ponies on egress. All the nature of the game so don't take it as a whine please.
And against my better judgment last month i ran nearly no NOE missions again Nearly is the operative word, and yes we have done silly fighter sweeps and we even did a japanese torpedo assault on a cv so yes we do those silly things also i think you have to in the name of fun sorry u were'nt there to reap the rewards of that one needless to say we got wallopped lmao but it was fun. Anyway back to the NOE thing there was actually no difference in success with the NOE v Alt missions and we even took some heavily defended bases still had to use strategy but in a more thoughtful way. In the end i'm actually trying to change the fight change the complexion of the map maybe extend the front so there can be some better fights. And remember every mission that fails turns into a great fight for hours.
Here is the big Problem Rooks and Nits and i presume Bish all do this, the fronline base is always covered by those dopes at 30k waiting to pick the incoming. So running missions or fighter sweeps into it while it would be fun quite frankly is unrealistic for time purposes i just don't have the patience to climb to 30k heavy, or even in Fighter trim for that matter now i may be exaggerating a bit but still a 20 min flight is unfortunatly not the easiest to pull off especially when you are gettting pulled in many different directions many people wanting to do many different things and i'm trying to accomodate as many as possible in the 2 hrs i have to fly with my guys.
I don't know if that gives you any perspective or not but i tried.
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Don't take my posts in the wrong sense. Jokers have some good sticks without question. I'm simply stating that taking bases by simply eliminating the fight (everything dead and no way to defend it) is simple and no one will convince me otherwise. Thus eliminating the fight is detrimental to game play. It's like watching a wrestling match with one opponent. Nuff said.
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A squad that can horde a base, nice!
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It does and thank you for your comments....
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It does and thank you for your comments....
And i thank you for yours truly <S> :salute
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From my perspective Jokers Jokers has to be THE best base capture squad in AH history.
These are the reasons we dominate the MA in base captures...Our tactics(eg.smash & grab) were perfected by us and now widely copied.
:rofl ... I know you have been around long enough to know better so I can only assume your trolling.
Congrats tho ... it's a good thing being happy with a squad, and who you fly with.
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edit: not worth my time.
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good for you, Sirlion! I am glad you found something that makes ya enjoy logging on and flying, instead of hanging it up.....
as for the challenge, I will put forth my Squad "The Damned" and challenge you on any and every aspect of base capture, squad vs squad duel, base capture and hold, base defend from capture, is your pockets deep enough to take the challenge? :devil
also, wtg Joker for pulling together a group that enjoys each others company and has fun flying/participating together.......
:salute TC as a JokersJoker I thank you for a positive post.
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Ok this is all i'm gonna say here.
I know SirLoin for a little over a year now, and i think everyone has taken this far beyond what it should be.
The overall tone here should just be that Loin wanted to say he is having fun again after not having so much fun.
He also expressed some pride in the group he flies with i would expect the same from any other person out there otherwise y would you be affiliated with said squad?
I for one and proud and honored to have such squadies these guys are the reason i log on at night if not for this group i would have quit a long time ago.
Infact initially formed this squad just so i would'nt be asked to join a squad.
then i met some peeps who enjoyed the same things i did and then blammo squad is born.
So while Loin feels that i in some way helped him enjoy this game more, the folks i fly with in this game are the reason i still play this game.
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He simply went about it all wrong.
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He simply went about it all wrong.
Yup. Nothing like patting yourself on the back for a job well done, right? :rolleyes:
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Yup. Nothing like patting yourself on the back for a job well done, right? :rolleyes:
That's what I got out of it, but I do believe Joerk2 cleared it up...still I wouldn't have posted this in this manner (especially saying the #1 squad in blah blah blah)
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I knew just from reading the topic, this was going to be another flame feast. Uptown, I appreciate the though and I hope that we get to duel in the near future, if you would like to. :) (don't listen to Joker, he thinks he's better than me ;) )
TC, anytime, we have some great fight all the the time at KOTH, and look forward to some more. I have a lot of fun fighting you and I hope we get to fight in the near future.
There was a time, I believe a month or so back, we uped a mission to take a base. We came two sectors, telling you guys on 200 that we would be coming to take the base, and yet we still took it. Funny thing we left the hangars up and they started saying on 200, "Nice vulch guys"
Last time I was on, which was about two weeks ago, we took a base that was hevily defended by a lot of cons. There was some guys talking crap on 200, "Need more Jokers at such and such base" (don't remeber the base). So we took the hangars down and we took the base. The whine now was, "we would up if you didn't take the hangars."
So you see, it dosn't matter how we do it, we always get the whine from people who just don't care. It's funny when, the people who whine about it, will up in the next mission to take the next base, from bish. So it's alright for nits and rooks to take bases, but it's not alright for bish to take bases?
There are a few people on this post though, very elite people, who will never make a mission, never join a mission, and just furball. The very elect people who can do this, may have a say. Like I've said before, most of you who post here, are hypocrites in there own fashion.
Now, Joker has said, and I will back him up. I'm sure most of my squaddies will do the same. We never back down from a DA challenge. We never back down. I would like the DA anyone on this post, for any reason. I personally do it to get better, for training pourposes. Dosn't matter who, or how they fight, I will challenge anybody in here. No, this is not a purse fight, but it's more to prove that its not how we do things in the MA, but how the people in the squad, are some of the best people in the game.
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I still want to know what the deal is with naming the squad after himself. Maybe I could start 420ace's aces or something simarly clever :rolleyes:
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Am I the only one that hasn't really gained anything from this thread?
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These problems would go away if training was pushed in a big way. Most people travel in hordes because they are sick of dying and instead of putting the effort in to get good, they surround themselves with others.
The mentality of the average player has morphed in the last few years. We need to reverse this trend.
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Squads in AHII is showing 3 Members. Gastropods have 1.
Ok, that's 200% more :o
Whohoo! PJay must have reactivated his account. We just grew 50%.
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Am I the only one that hasn't really gained anything from this thread?
Not at all. I was at least expecting another real estate group come in and start purse fighting about who deserves what title :(
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Dude, I've posted in here many times that the scoring system is a Joke, I've simply proved it time and time again. So whats your real point? :rolleyes:
Dude, simply that the scoring system in several aspects promotes avoiding fights. In bombers, somewhat in GVs/pts, and somewhat in Attack mode. Couldn't that be construed as detrimental to the game and weren't you concerned about things deemed detrimental. :rolleyes:
Let me make my case here with bombers. In tour 108 the top 10 overall ranked guys had 73 kills in bombers total. Now 4 of those players had no kills and 1 person had 56 kills ( :salute that individual). So removing the pilot with 56 kills you have 9 guys with 17 kills. Which by the way surprised me since I thought it would be even lower than that. Now aren't they trying to avoid fights in bombers?! And then wouldn't that be detrimental to the spirit of the game as so many have said. For as long as I have been playing this has been the case and hordes have been the case and yet the game continues to grow.
On a personal level I don't give a rat's behind how some one plays. If scoring is your thing than by all means do that. I don't care about hoers, pickers, vulchers, hordes, noes, etc. I play the way I enjoy and I honestly want others to play the way they enjoy. I've done it all and with out regret.
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Does Jokers jokers accept 100% applications to the squad or do they have a screening process at all?
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Since when is running in a huge pack any special tactic which should be lauded?.... For this reason, my view on them is negative. I haven't seen any signs of class on 200 either for that matter. I don't talk there but I observe and only really give wtgs/salutes.
If you want to earn my respect, participate in the squad duelling ladder and show everyone some proper wingman tactics and individual skill.
Until then, don't be surprised that the feedback you get is in general negative.
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i've been though several online flight sims over the years(AW3,WB,EAW) and nothing comes close to Aces High.And it has been that way for many years.You fly with guys/gals,pass through several squads & you stop,look around at the friends that are still in orange off your left wing.After Busher's Hornets merged with Jokers,it went from the point of stagnation(& leaving the game) to a new level of enthusiasm and wanting to log on to see who's on.
From my perspective Jokers Jokers has to be THE best base capture squad in AH history.That's what we do..that and get the nme's panties tied into knots.Thus we become the target of individual attacks on the BBS..Which is fine(comes with the territory).
At the core of this migration of excellent people/pilots to our squad,is our XO Joker.An excellent leader(& recruiter)..the tamer of squeakers(you know who you are)..And a pure pleasure to fly with(HT should pay this guy..then Joker gives us a cut $) :D
These are the reasons I fly now more than ever..
1:Joker
2:Busher
3:Ghi
4:SlammerX
5:Bosco
6:Alka
7:Grewsome
8:Attilla
9:Sedonna
10:U2007
11:Seano
12:Krappy
13:Twizzty
14:Pieper
15:Kdweeb
16:Skully
17:HeavyD
18:Bongboy
19:Towdog
20:Yawrate
21:Stukka
22:Fitzy
23:Online
24:Spite
25:Mike1959
26:Knacks
These are the reasons we dominate the MA in base captures...Our tactics(eg.smash & grab) were perfected by us and now widely copied.We have some excellant map readers too which always helps.
I challenge any squad to post a role call of squaddies that you think compares to ours.(base captures & MA dominance)
This cohesion and co-operative teamwork of these fine pilots is only made possible by one person..
JOKER :salute
Your squad let you post something like this? As in, your CO and XO haven't thrown you out to pasture yet for posting this?
And, agreed, whoever posted that your tactics are detrimental to gameplay. Whilst you may think it fun NOT to fight a base into submission, others do. Your squad generally doesn't fight at a base... you fly over NOE, drop the town in 2 passes and drop the troops, while vulching those that up. How you find this to be fun.... I'll never understand. When you end up finding a fight...... you move on to another, less defended base. WOOOHOOO. Congrats to you.
While some of your individuals in the squad are a blast to fight one on one.... big :salute to you guys, the smash and grab tactic you refer to as "yours" was in place in Air Warrior squads 15 years ago or more.
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WOW THANKS 4 INCLUDING ME LOIN.................
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Not at all. I was at least expecting another real estate group come in and start purse fighting about who deserves what title :(
Glad we can agree on something :) And I apologize for my actions in the past :salute
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When you scream "look at me" in the public square, you surrender your right to be picky about the quality of attention you'll get in response. Positive posts my ***...It could have been a positive post, but the self-inflating BS pretty much canceled out the positives.
I totally agree !
Uhhhh..... whats a score ? can I get it if I push enter three times real fast ? oh I forgot ... I do that when I want to fire my turbo guns. right ? :devil
Now pass the popcorn :D
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Does Jokers jokers accept 100% applications to the squad or do they have a screening process at all?
well i have booted a number of people but i hardly think my general practice of how we screen squadies is any real business of yours' actually you might be surprised that our process is more stringent than most, albeit maybe not the same fashion that you would screen.
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Cmon Joker, give us the juicy details... Do they have to pass SirLoin's ballerina test, or just divine chicken bones that ghi tosses on the floor?
:P
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<<<waiting for the day HTC puts the "Top base taking rank" on the homepage. I would sit back and watch the witchhunts on the BBS when they whine about having shade accounts to take feilds :D
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The reason people gun for the Jr's is not because you/they are good, it is because you annoy the Hell out of them with the 30+ person hordes. That isnt "skill" in teh least bit. That is a Soviet style of attack and "skill" has very little to do with it.
But... you guys keep believing what you want. If this is the only place in your life that you mean anything then hey... have at it. :lol
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well i have booted a number of people but i hardly think my general practice of how we screen squadies is any real business of yours' actually you might be surprised that our process is more stringent than most, albeit maybe not the same fashion that you would screen.
I was just asking. The bigger a squad gets, obviously the talent pool gets thin quick.
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I was just asking. The bigger a squad gets, obviously the talent pool gets thin quick.
So...smaller squads..like mine..should be able to pwn everyone..SWEET :lol
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So...smaller squads..like mine..should be able to pwn everyone..SWEET :lol
well, my squad is a 1-man deal, and I do pretty much pwn everyone.
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well, my squad is a 1-man deal, and I do pretty much pwn everyone.
:noid
See....i guess he IS right
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The reason people gun for the Jr's is not because you/they are good, it is because you annoy the Hell out of them with the 30+ person hordes. That isnt "skill" in teh least bit. That is a Soviet style of attack and "skill" has very little to do with it.
But... you guys keep believing what you want. If this is the only place in your life that you mean anything then hey... have at it. :lol
Well Joker if it's " soviet style " in nature then I say put up the horde in LA7s and IL2s, sit back and watch the M O A N I N G that you will have created! :rofl :rofl chnl 200 is so easy, it's like fishing with dynamite :aok
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I only wish more people in this game had the same character that you show.
Sometimes I wonder how all the incessant flaming makes other's feel better?
(http://i477.photobucket.com/albums/rr138/Fugita69/thconspiracy.jpg)
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As far as bishop missions go if your gonna call joker on hording, then what about thundregg, and falcon23. Theres no reason to even cry about large missions, Jokers missions almost always succeed, and vulching is a blast when you get lashing on 200 following. As for Sirloins comments, hes entitled to his own opinion, ive said tons of stupid stuff in AH. It all comes down to whether or not you give a hoot about who gets offended by them.
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ive said tons of stupid stuff in AH.
Welp...when you're right.......... :aok :rofl
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well i have booted a number of people but i hardly think my general practice of how we screen squadies is any real business of yours' actually you might be surprised that our process is more stringent than most, albeit maybe not the same fashion that you would screen.
And Joker, respectfully, this is why this thread should never have been started..... Which is why you should be now talking to the originator of this thread. When you now have to defend your personal practice of recruitment, you have better things to do, like fly.
People have been thrown out of my squad for less than this. Some of you would say that is hard to believe, but the fact remains. Take that as you will, but when you stand in the public square and proclaim you're wonderful, serious or not, don't be surprised who throws egg.
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What may improve gameplay, would be for a side to announce it is going to run a mission, allow for a defense to setup and try to stop it. It would however rely on those that died to up from a rear base to simulate attrition.
Without attrition there is no reduction in defenders.
Without that it requires large group and being sneaky.
This puts most of the fight at 3k or lower, and creates vulchfests.
Its the mechanics of the game not the players I find fault in.
If we had strats in the form of aircraft factories that took alot of bombers to kill it, the game would take care of itself.
Oh..and maybe take some of the base capture aspect out of it for awhile.
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He simply went about it all wrong.
(http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/3417/mishunakomplisheddw3.jpg)
I still want to know what the deal is with naming the squad after himself. Maybe I could start 420ace's aces or something simarly clever :rolleyes:
Seems to have occured sometimes in real life.
Zemke's Wolfpack
wrongway
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Looking for love in all the wrong places...
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And Joker, respectfully, this is why this thread should never have been started..... Which is why you should be now talking to the originator of this thread. When you now have to defend your personal practice of recruitment, you have better things to do, like fly.
but when you stand in the public square and proclaim you're wonderful, serious or not, don't be surprised who throws egg.
I think people are reading too much in to Sirloin's original post.. he has found enjoyment again and the smoldering embers have been relit!!!
Sirloin is happy, proud and I am happy for him..... we , each and every single one of us Online Cartoon Pile-its think that our squad, group, wingman, selves are the best! and we all are in our own minds :aok
and Sirloin...you never answered my question to ya? to you and your squad? :devil
if the Joker's Jokers believe they are better and/or believe they can do something better in game than another group or any group. well Good On Them. they have the correct mindset.they just might need to tweak it some and work on some areas ( as a team ) and then one day that belief might actualy become a fact...
but right now, today! I fly in the best squad, THE DAMNED, and I am not afraid to match up or accept any challenge in any category...
how you like them apples? :D
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but right now, today! I fly in the best squad, THE DAMNED, and I am not afraid to match up or accept any challenge in any category...
how you like them apples? :D
Oh damn! *hides purse*
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Its the mechanics of the game not the players I find fault in.
The mechanics of the game keep the $$$ flowing. like it or not. New guys have a hard enough time staying in the air much less landing a few kills. Changing anything will only benefit the uber sticks out there and frustrate the new guy trying to learn.There are leaders in this game and ther are followers. As a follower, you wanna kick A**. You want the wtgs and pats on the back. As leaders, you have to remember that you are directly influencing these other peoples behavoir. Everyone that has been here a while really has to do their part when it comes to shaping any new pilots as they come. If you truley want to be rewarded, instead of asking 76589376748 to roll a goon in to that base you pumbled, then yell at him for dropping on the feild...ask him to take a fighter/bomber/Gv of choice and teach him a few basic do's and donts.
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+1 ^^^^^^ :salute
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Sir Loin,
Too cool that you are digging the game. It can grow stale. Some of my favorite Bish fly with the Jokers. And the squad does a great job.
What would be cool is to have the naysayers on this thread set up a contest. Purses at d400 or something.
But seriously, good competition is good for the game. When stuff gets personal, it's exactly that. It ain't about this squad or that squad or achievements, tactics, or execution. It's just folks with their knickers in a twist, and excuse to toss a turd into the pool will suffice.
I <S> all who continue to shape Aces High in a good direction. Anything that appears on the help file is fair game. I love capturing bases. That a country tries to diminish the accomplishment by not defending what's there's is beyond me. That a player would be critical of a capture against an undefended field or underdefended field misses the point. To those who don't care, but take the time to say over and over again how much they don't care. We get it. Thanks for sharing. Could you not care in a less voluable fashion? Your tone and words belie the indifference you profess. We think you doth protest too much.
Ah, the BBS, the true game within the game.
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Seems to have occured sometimes in real life.
Zemke's Wolfpack
wrongway
479th "Riddle's Raiders" FG
ack-ack
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479th "Riddle's Raiders" FG
ack-ack
But it wasn't named 479th "Riddle's Riddler's" :)
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sorry but cant call ur self best base capture squad when u never take bases by your squad alone. always see jokes err jokers behind
30 to 50 other lemming in horde capture. like last night 40+ planes @ P109, 5 sorties, base still knits, and i think i counted
20+ 234s killed LOL......too funny
I find that kind of odd, I usually never even see Joker missions go past 30 when I'm online, and very rarely they go past 25, and sometimes, 20.
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The mechanics of the game keep the $$$ flowing. like it or not. New guys have a hard enough time staying in the air much less landing a few kills. Changing anything will only benefit the uber sticks out there and frustrate the new guy trying to learn.There are leaders in this game and ther are followers. As a follower, you wanna kick A**. You want the wtgs and pats on the back. As leaders, you have to remember that you are directly influencing these other peoples behavoir. Everyone that has been here a while really has to do their part when it comes to shaping any new pilots as they come. If you truley want to be rewarded, instead of asking 76589376748 to roll a goon in to that base you pumbled, then yell at him for dropping on the feild...ask him to take a fighter/bomber/Gv of choice and teach him a few basic do's and donts.
Sorry Dale
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WOW THANKS 4 INCLUDING ME LOIN.................
yea me too :mad: ;)
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Only time rank or base captures impress me is guy Not in a squad. When he has 15 or 20 captures doesn't bomb strats in bomb mode or attack mode, and still near top 10( this is easy to see if his hit % under 400 hes just killing cvs and towns). This is man who is good at what he does. Anyone can get base captures if in a squad and great k/d by vulching noobs that lift bombers and a base with 20 guys fighting over the vulch. Get 4 or 5 guys that can kill ack so you can vulch base not impressive.
Not saying sirloin wrong for posting But i'm 1 of those who laugh at squadmates who brag after the capture a base or squadie lands 2 kills. see it alot 5 guys going wtg soso squad great capture, you go look and they all from said squad. even more fun to laugh when its a vb.
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Sirloin is happy, proud and I am happy for him..... we , each and every single one of us Online Cartoon Pile-its think that our squad, group, wingman, selves are the best! and we all are in our own minds
I dont know. I'm having this vision of a bunch of guys hand in hand dancing in circles barefoot with flowers in their hair. And it just aint right.
I know Loin is a good guy and a very good stick. But horde tactics isn't some kind of elevated deployment of 24'th century star ships at high warp speeds using advanced mathematics. You load up a bunch of 4 cannon jabos with bombs, fly to the nearest base with alt, dump you bombs, vulch, HO, and pick. And then rinse and repeat as often as you can. It works against Rooks cause weve become the nation of score hungry furballers. Even I eventually get tired of 5 on 1 picks and just wonder off giving them the base. I dont exactly have anxiety fits when I lose a cartoon air base anyways.
A few times Ive just sat there on the ground and watched them miss easy dive bomb targets. One thing it isn't is "good tactics". Its simply mobbing thats all, and it makes NOE ground hugging look like "good tactics".
Hey if you have fun with it then more power to you. Ive gotten tired of what air to air has become in AH and just want to fly my IL-2s anyways.
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rofl. MA dominance? :lol
hehe made me chuckle too.
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What may improve gameplay, would be for a side to announce it is going to run a mission, allow for a defense to setup and try to stop it. It would however rely on those that died to up from a rear base to simulate attrition.
Without attrition there is no reduction in defenders.
Without that it requires large group and being sneaky.
This puts most of the fight at 3k or lower, and creates vulchfests.
Its the mechanics of the game not the players I find fault in.
If we had strats in the form of aircraft factories that took alot of bombers to kill it, the game would take care of itself.
Oh..and maybe take some of the base capture aspect out of it for awhile.
What about this: set some more ack a bit out from base and give the airbases auto puffy guns, 40mm quads, and perhaps a 5" manned gun or two. Move the towns out a bit further and make them perhaps a tad larger.
This discourages the vulching, focuses the fight more over the town instead of the airbase, and keeps people being able to get back into the action without a long wait. Maybe I should make this a wishlist request.
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What about this: set some more ack a bit out from base and give the airbases auto puffy guns, 40mm quads, and perhaps a 5" manned gun or two. Move the towns out a bit further and make them perhaps a tad larger.
This discourages the vulching, focuses the fight more over the town instead of the airbase, and keeps people being able to get back into the action without a long wait. Maybe I should make this a wishlist request.
I somewhat agree with that. I don't like the puffy ack but I would like the 40 mm quads and maybe a 5 incher. And yes maybe in the wishlist forum. Butttttttttt while I'm at it I'd like to see those new guns stay down 20 min instead of 15.
There was a map that had 5 inchers by the town at one time. Not sure how effective they were. Maybe it didn't go over so well.
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Howdy SirLoin, Sure is nice to hear that you really enjoy the game and company of your squaddies. :aok
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What about this: set some more ack a bit out from base and give the airbases auto puffy guns, 40mm quads, and perhaps a 5" manned gun or two. Move the towns out a bit further and make them perhaps a tad larger.
This discourages the vulching, focuses the fight more over the town instead of the airbase, and keeps people being able to get back into the action without a long wait. Maybe I should make this a wishlist request.
There is that one map i can't remember the name but it had town's very far from the field and it was very interesting.
It might have been only a few bases that had them but i like the idea of extending town's from the field. at least then when u shoot a guy down over the town he can't shoot u down 30 seconds later cuz he just grabbed another Spixteen.
See the way the game is set up the attacker has the disadvantage because he had to fly 25 or 50 miles to get to the base in question while the defender's can up unlimited amount of times in whatever they want. plus they have ack as protection, it would be good to make the fight happen over the town rather than the field.
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Make fields harder to take and not easyer. As it is now the attacker has the upper hand. More defences including the much hated manned puffy would balance it out better :aok
No need to make it easyer for the hordes to deack and vulch.
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Wouldn't the town being far away from the base make it easier for NOE's? That was the problem with the map that had the town far from base. You just couldn't respond in a timely manner.
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My thoughts have always been simple. A standard 3 layer AA umbrella with puffy ack and larger caliber (37mm/40mm) out to about 5k/6k but auto ack flak towers etc that make anything inside 2k of the field very dangerous until they are knocked out. Read the various tempest AAR's. Ones been posted here numerous times were they rolled in on field in France after D day and after just 1 pass the guy looked up and he's the only survivor out of the entire mission.
Against low numbers the defenders have the advantage, but it only takes 3-4 guys to deack a field and normally you'll only have 25% attrition or so (4 guys x 2 passes = 1 KIA & 1 bleeder [dinged bird]). So in a large mission it's easy to cap the field. Normally 71 will run an NOE (an occasional thing for us) with 3 x buff 1 goon and 2 x 110 (or mossie, A-20). I've always felt those are fun missions and challenging enough to accomplish. We've also run a few similar "end of the map" missions were we need the goon to launch 20-30 min ahead of time and run 110's behind it (6 or so).
To me anytime you run an NOE mission with more then about 8 people its simply an admission that you don't want a fight or dont have the skills to win one.
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Rgr that Helm :salute
Who was the first though?..Mayb e a thread initself?
I maen "Smash & GarB" ?
I actually admire squads that can move the map around. It gets boring flying the in the same spot all the time. So I support any squad that can "move the needle". It makes for better sightseeing. As to who was first I'm not sure maybe the freebirds? or the AK's??
By the way Sirloin you have been kicking my butt for years one on one!
I just wanted to take a second and give you a hearty :salute ....well done
Helm ...out
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It gets boring flying the in the same spot all the time. So I support any squad that can "move the needle". It makes for better sightseeing.
Whoa, in your game are the terrain tiles different as you move around the map? All the bases, towns, ports, vbases, factories, hills, water, coasts, clouds look the same to me everywhere on the map!
where did you get your ah2 and where can I get it? :rolleyes:
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Make fields harder to take and not easyer. As it is now the attacker has the upper hand. More defences including the much hated manned puffy would balance it out better :aok
No need to make it easyer for the hordes to deack and vulch.
i put in wish list 5" manable guns at towns and at strats. This would make scoreing even fair. score guys who get 2000k % in bombing would have to kill 5" manable guns at strats before they can milk. but then i can see it now. okay squad mission up i need 4 of you to hit 5" guns at strat so i can kill strat with ju87 or lone lanc and repeat.
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My thoughts have always been simple. A standard 3 layer AA umbrella with puffy ack and larger caliber (37mm/40mm) out to about 5k/6k but auto ack flak towers etc that make anything inside 2k of the field very dangerous until they are knocked out. Read the various tempest AAR's. Ones been posted here numerous times were they rolled in on field in France after D day and after just 1 pass the guy looked up and he's the only survivor out of the entire mission.
Against low numbers the defenders have the advantage, but it only takes 3-4 guys to deack a field and normally you'll only have 25% attrition or so (4 guys x 2 passes = 1 KIA & 1 bleeder [dinged bird]). So in a large mission it's easy to cap the field. Normally 71 will run an NOE (an occasional thing for us) with 3 x buff 1 goon and 2 x 110 (or mossie, A-20). I've always felt those are fun missions and challenging enough to accomplish. We've also run a few similar "end of the map" missions were we need the goon to launch 20-30 min ahead of time and run 110's behind it (6 or so).
To me anytime you run an NOE mission with more then about 8 people its simply an admission that you don't want a fight or dont have the skills to win one.
Humble Please all your doing with this kind of thought is perpetuate the hoard mentality.
I mean y sould i even up a plane if i can just sit in the 5" gun outside town and whack all who fly over it.
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Not at all joker, what i'm pointing out is that the base defenses are easily overwhelmed by even a relatively small group smart enough to deack 1st. 4 guys can deack even a large field so a 15-20 person NOE raid can role any field. In fact the "easy mode" is a single fighter up high and a NOE trailing. That way the single trips DAR 1st and the field ack goes down before much can role. Any bunch of noobs (not aimed at you guys) can roll a field in 6 min or less from the 1st shot fired. The biggest problem is actually the goon driver busting a strut...
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Yup. Nothing like patting yourself on the back for a job well done, right? :rolleyes:
As happens a lot in AH, folks think they are doing a much better job that they actually are. If your all that good someone other than yourself or your squad will speak up for you. If your having to blow your own horn then chances are.... you need work. That is what was meant by that statement.
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Rgr that Helm :salute
Who was the first though?..Mayb e a thread initself?
I maen "Smash & GarB" ?
Perhaps Hitler? Or maybe Atilla?
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Game improvement seems to be a tough question with no easy answers. I see folks making suggestions on what they think would be good but then the reasons not implement the suggestion are sound. NOE's seem to balance out high altitude fliers. Towns far from base seem to favor NOEs. Manned 5 inchers favor folks just sitting in the manned ack. Many of these things have been tried and failed. Even the towns are larger than they were originally. Radar down to the ground would favor high altitude planes.
Personally I like the game the way it is. I look forward to new planes and newer graphics. You are just not going to please everyone. (Even if you hung them with a new rope) :rofl
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See the way the game is set up the attacker has the disadvantage because he had to fly 25 or 50 miles to get to the base in question while the defender's can up unlimited amount of times in whatever they want. plus they have ack as protection, it would be good to make the fight happen over the town rather than the field.
What's stopping you from doing that now? I've been in on your missions and Ghi's, and you always have "X" number of planes designated for vulchfest.
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You may not get the best fights in the game. but you do get lots of action if you happen to be around at any of their missions. If you can get joker off by himself he actually makes for a fun fight..and he has gotten a lot better.
as far as some of the others in the squad.....Im not impressed by anyone that gives you a face full just because they can.
<S>
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There are so many bases on each map that it really doesn't matter if the horde takes a few. Plus hordes offer a plethora of targets. I don't mind them at all.
On a personal note, I detest when some buff pilot arrives at a furball and takes down all the fighter hangars with no immediate design on taking the base; as if he is somehow helping his team.
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What's stopping you from doing that now? I've been in on your missions and Ghi's, and you always have "X" number of planes designated for vulchfest.
It's field suppression! :lol :lol
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It's field suppression! :lol :lol
He makes the statement that he doesn't agree with field suppression though. :rolleyes:
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On a personal note, I detest when some buff pilot arrives at a furball and takes down all the fighter hangars with no immediate design on taking the base; as if he is somehow helping his team.
you mean the ones that call "FH's down" on range all proud, when the town is full up and the base capped?
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you mean the ones that call "FH's down" on range all proud, when the town is full up and the base capped?
Happend the other day at the base we was at :noid annoying
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YAWN!
If your squad deserves recognition, others will post about your accomplishments; doing it yourself is narcissistic to the extreme considering this is a game and not real life. Google "humble" is my suggestion.
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all i got to say is there is some very respectible guys in that group and i wish they would leave the squad due to the rep they are getting from the squad. dam shame
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What's stopping you from doing that now? I've been in on your missions and Ghi's, and you always have "X" number of planes designated for vulchfest.
Fugita i'm not a big fan of vulching. you can say what you want here in response to that. but its true its very unsatisfying. However Feild suppression is a necessary evil of the game. Establishing the Cap is fun but vulching not so much.
I enjoy breaking a cap more than anything nothing like killing skilless vulch dweebs i'm sure you will all agree.
which brings me to what bosco wrote earlier in this thread. We have on occasion told people on 200 that we were coming how many what alt and given plenty of time to set up defenses only to get there and have no 1 there.
It is my oppinion and always will be that whiners are just that whiners, and no matter what you do they will say something, i mean c'mon man man up for a change do something don't just cry about it.
My business is and personal life is about the same doing something, some people can some people won't some cry and blame the world ultimately this kind of attitude will get you no where.
I don't make the rules i just play inside them.
I took the challenge last month that NOE's were skilless and avoided the fight, so i ran almost all my missions at alt with warning and guess what? they got the same results.
I sometimes feel like the whiners are the folks unwilling to die 2 or 3 times to break a cap or successfully defend the base.
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Jokers squad rep is only how you perceive it to be. Once you've flown with them, there's a whole new side to those guys. I see the Jokers Rep as pretty respectable. I don't see them vulching shade accounts or yelling (too) profane language...
I gather most are a tad jealous of their cohesiveness. At least they are all enjoying themselves; that's what this game is about IMO.
Not the Fights, not Base takes, not bombing, not vulching, not the GVing, not ANYTHING, but enjoying yourself with the company you've chosen.
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Yup when you step back and look there are a few good guys in that squad. But being a squad that likes to capture makes them look bad to folks who like the fight and good to folks who like to capture. Any and all capture type squads are going to vulch, ho and whatever else it takes to get a base as that is their sole goal.
More power to you... I'll be elsewhere looking for a fight as I could care less about bases as long as I have one to up from. <S>
Guess that makes me look bad to the capture types :rofl
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These are the reasons I fly now more than ever..
1:Joker
2:Busher
3:Ghi
4:SlammerX
5:Bosco
6:Alka
7:Grewsome
8:Attilla
9:Sedonna
10:U2007
11:Seano
12:Krappy
13:Twizzty
14:Pieper
15:Kdweeb
16:Skully
17:HeavyD
18:Bongboy
19:Towdog
20:Yawrate
21:Stukka
22:Fitzy
23:Online
24:Spite
25:Mike1959
26:Knacks
think you forgot Moon2
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Yup when you step back and look there are a few good guys in that squad. But being a squad that likes to capture makes them look bad to folks who like the fight and good to folks who like to capture. Any and all capture type squads are going to vulch, ho and whatever else it takes to get a base as that is their sole goal.
More power to you... I'll be elsewhere looking for a fight as I could care less about bases as long as I have one to up from. <S>
Guess that makes me look bad to the capture types :rofl
On the Contrary Shuffler,
I can appreciate your position on this and it is clear that you also appreciate mine.
Why is it that others feel the need to belittle and bash those who find different area's of the game fun for them.
Sometimes i wonder?
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On the Contrary Shuffler,
I can appreciate your position on this and it is clear that you also appreciate mine.
Why is it that others feel the need to belittle and bash those who find different area's of the game fun for them.
Sometimes i wonder?
Or PM people in the game about being a spy and a cheater because they busted your mission.
Makes me wonder too
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I've been in the Jokers squad for about 8 months. This squad is a blast to fly with.
These guys know how to play the game. There is great communication and there is always
something going on...weather its GHI yelling out noe missions we need to defend, or others in squad setting up
missions. It is always active when I get on to play!
If you have computer related problems or anything in "real life" there is always someone there to help!
<S> to all the squads. I think this is what makes the game great. I've made many friends in this
game, I've done business with some, and had a great time at the gatherings in Dayton!
If you ever need a kick butt computer built look up Mugz..this guy built me a awsome puter
at the right price. :aok
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On the Contrary Shuffler,
I can appreciate your position on this and it is clear that you also appreciate mine.
Why is it that others feel the need to belittle and bash those who find different area's of the game fun for them.
Sometimes i wonder?
A lot of the time it stems from just simply misunderstanding one another. I have a few folks get ticked at me because I am one that won't step aside and just ignore poor play. I point the guilty out. Well on some nights there are so many poor players it seems like that is all I am doing. Sometimes it gets old hearing it but on the flip side it gets old when so many chose the low road. I definitely prefer just joking around and flying my big B-38 around dodging bullits. I tend to get my zigs and zags all mixed up and part out my bird.
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Dude, I've posted in here many times that the scoring system is a Joke, I've simply proved it time and time again. So whats your real point? :rolleyes:
Shawk your a friggin wipe. You did some extremely bs manuvers, and not in a plane. Like for instance switching countries to take a cv away from a field. Blow that out your arse too.
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Establishing the Cap is fun but vulching not so much.
And the motive to establish the cap is?....( Answers please)
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to demoralize the emeny and keep them away from the sheep we are having our ways with?
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And the motive to establish the cap is?....( Answers please)
hmmm, virtual chicks really love it?
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Hitech's thoughts on vulching (http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?jd1453zqmjx)
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Hitech's thoughts on vulching (http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?jd1453zqmjx)
They should be happy they weren't playing AW when HiTech was. IIRC stories of him vulching the spawn at fields and popping planes left and right in a T-34.
ack-ack
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They should be happy they weren't playing AW when HiTech was. IIRC stories of him vulching the spawn at fields and popping planes left and right in a T-34.
ack-ack
I just get a kick out of the whole "I abhor vulching" thing. Well...I know you and NB "get it".
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I just get a kick out of the whole "I abhor vulching" thing. Well...I know you and NB "get it".
My theory is those that cry and complain most about vulching are the ones too stupid to realize that you won't get vulched if you don't up a base that is under attack. So instead of getting smart, they cry and rant about how 'cheap' it is and never learn from their mistakes.
Nothing is more enjoyable than pissing the other guy off by vulching him or shooting his chute.
ack-ack
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If I ever get shot by a guided missile i'll know who to go looking for :furious
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Every squad should toot their own horn from time to time…
(http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/7333/poster3bo4.jpg)
CHEERS! goaly
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I just get a kick out of the whole "I abhor vulching" thing. Well...I know you and NB "get it".
:rofl You have no idea how much I "get it".
Like the time HT figured out where to park his tank so that he had the spawn on CV13 covered in the old Pac terrain. For the newbies....cv's in Air Warrior didn't move. He was miles away on an island and would pop anyone taking off. This was the "fall out of your chair" kinda funny...poor guys couldn't understand how they were dying. :D
Come to a convention some time, I can assure you that I will dish all the dirt on HT from the AW days. Of course, some adult beverage might be required. :devil
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i've been though several online flight sims over the years(AW3,WB,EAW) and nothing comes close to Aces High.And it has been that way for many years.You fly with guys/gals,pass through several squads & you stop,look around at the friends that are still in orange off your left wing.After Busher's Hornets merged with Jokers,it went from the point of stagnation(& leaving the game) to a new level of enthusiasm and wanting to log on to see who's on.
From my perspective Jokers Jokers has to be THE best base capture squad in AH history.That's what we do..that and get the nme's panties tied into knots.Thus we become the target of individual attacks on the BBS..Which is fine(comes with the territory).
At the core of this migration of excellent people/pilots to our squad,is our XO Joker.An excellent leader(& recruiter)..the tamer of squeakers(you know who you are)..And a pure pleasure to fly with(HT should pay this guy..then Joker gives us a cut $) :D
These are the reasons I fly now more than ever..
1:Joker
2:Busher
3:Ghi
4:SlammerX
5:Bosco
6:Alka
7:Grewsome
8:Attilla
9:Sedonna
10:U2007
11:Seano
12:Krappy
13:Twizzty
14:Pieper
15:Kdweeb
16:Skully
17:HeavyD
18:Bongboy
19:Towdog
20:Yawrate
21:Stukka
22:Fitzy
23:Online
24:Spite
25:Mike1959
26:Knacks
These are the reasons we dominate the MA in base captures...Our tactics(eg.smash & grab) were perfected by us and now widely copied.We have some excellant map readers too which always helps.
I challenge any squad to post a role call of squaddies that you think compares to ours.(base captures & MA dominance)
This cohesion and co-operative teamwork of these fine pilots is only made possible by one person..
JOKER :salute
Congratulations
you guys have won this years "I THINK MY SQUAD IS THE BEST AWARD"
each of your squad members will recieve a free cup of coffee at dennys.
At the annual awards banquet, there will be a box of brownie buttons to your left as you enter. Please take one and one only per squad member.
once again
Congratulations!
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Your squad didn't invent anything, your tactics are nothing new, people been doing them for years. You guys do them well, but you have not invented anything new.
Helm ...out
I didn't say we invented the "Smash & Grab"...said we "perfected" it.
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"Re: Jokers Jokers(#1 Base Capture Squad in AH)"
Congratulations. You are now ranked right up there with the SOARs. :O
Was thinking the exact same thing LMFAO
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I didn't say we invented the "Smash & Grab"...said we "perfected" it.
I'm sorry but anything you think you've "perfected" was perfected long before you ever saw a flight sim.
Where are Lion, Popeye, Eagl7, Dogg and the rest of the Red Barons of AW when I need them to prove a point.
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nothing wrong with a good well organized squad,
not to sure i need to be told how good a squad is tho,
i do know it is nice to work with guys who know what they are doing,
the training aspect of it is great for the game all around,
i have learned and or teach alot of players the way of the game,
and i am amazed at the things, some do not know.
just check the attitudes at the door, and have fun!!
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Jokers squad rep is only how you perceive it to be. Once you've flown with them, there's a whole new side to those guys. I see the Jokers Rep as pretty respectable. I don't see them vulching shade accounts or yelling (too) profane language...
I gather most are a tad jealous of their cohesiveness. At least they are all enjoying themselves; that's what this game is about IMO.
Not the Fights, not Base takes, not bombing, not vulching, not the GVing, not ANYTHING, but enjoying yourself with the company you've chosen.
I agree B. Lots of guys on their roster were fun to fly with. Gruesome..very nice guy willing to help out. G....will always crack me up. Joker himself has frequented our vox and BS'd a while, which was great. Dont you DARE think of touring or switching sides for a period of time...doing so will get you banned from a chesspiece and labled a spy, cheat and countryhopper by a CO. :confused:
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I'm sorry but anything you think you've "perfected" was perfected long before you ever saw a flight sim.
Where are Lion, Popeye, Eagl7, Dogg and the rest of the Red Barons of AW when I need them to prove a point.
Whats there to prove? Only thing they proved is u can take bases fast with #'s. Try doing it with only 10 people and going against 15-20+ defenders, then we will talk.
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I'm sorry but anything you think you've "perfected" was perfected long before you ever saw a flight sim.
Where are Lion, Popeye, Eagl7, Dogg and the rest of the Red Barons of AW when I need them to prove a point.
agreed... my old AW3 RR skwad (Grave Diggers) had it down to an art, with assigned targets/roles for certain flights. We'd roll the entire map's bases every week, lol, and own the map. The simplest tactic that allowed us to do this was extending our CAP outwards toward the bases that could defend against the one we were attacking.... interdiction.
So even tho most of us older players who've been around have evolved into furball farts, we still know what it takes and how to take a base. This is why the "war" never really bothers me - we all have our own learning curve, style and preference for type of action.
To those, including myself, who think too many are stuck on suck, i'm reminded of some quote by someone (Yeager?) who said something to the effect that 10% of the guys got 90% of the kills.
The biggest difference in squad ops I've seen over the past few years compared to earlier is the lack of coordinated tactics. Always going NOE deprieves a skwad of the learning experience for proper tactics, i.e. a ftr sweep ahead, a flight assigned to cap, escorting the goon/buffs (the weakest link in current tactics is proper escorting - and the easy availbility of m3's as opposed to goons only makes it less of a percieved need.)
Another weak link in squad ops is counter ops... I never see appropriate organized counterattacks or tactics used to defend a base being attacked with interdiction tactics. This game has a lot of strategical and tactical options that are left on the table unused.
Meh...
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my old AW3 RR skwad (Grave Diggers)
What was your CPID then? Mine when i was in the GD was -->K9. After I left GD I was a Most Wanted as #Dogg.
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What was your CPID then? Mine when i was in the GD was -->K9. After I left GD I was a Most Wanted as #Dogg.
-->OP
and in FR Oopsy/Shane (last few months before EA killed it).
:aok
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-->OP
and in FR Oopsy/Shane (last few months before EA killed it).
:aok
Damm, all this time I never knew that, <S>. Remember -->KZ? He is AKKillz now which after GD he was #Killz and MwKillz.
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CO and RR also played a few years back, dunno if they're still around. Think -->WB (wildbill) came over as well.. and recently -->MA (Maim) showed up, and is looking for a squad.
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,255999.msg3163602/topicseen.html#msg3163602
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Another weak link in squad ops is counter ops... I never see appropriate organized counterattacks or tactics used to defend a base being attacked with interdiction tactics. This game has a lot of strategical and tactical options that are left on the table unused.
Meh...
Big time! The idea of chasing dots abhors me. There they are, let's get 'em! Something with more purpose is to my purpose. Check out any dar where resistance meets a larger force. The resistance being smaller. Watch for 3 to 5 mins. Vast majority of 1st wave attackign pilots die w/in those 5 mins. Sure some survive and land kills, many kills maybe. but my point is the majority do not. they get shot down quickly or the ground comes up and bites them. maybe that's evidence of skill sets not being developed because popular tactics right now don't ask that they be acquired as they might be.
i love the idea of having assignments, driving cons down low, etc. something with a measurable and achievable goal where working in tandem with others achieves a common purpose. base capture for instance, or some preparatory step.
or say, phooey. fly over 30 110's and be done with it. i have more fun doing the former.
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lucky 200! :noid
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After reading all this, im going to go change my squad name to "Stodds Studds!" :D
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After reading all this, im going to go change my squad name to "Stodds Studds!" :D
All your boyfriends gonna fly under that name? :t
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Of course....
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(http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s28/davo75/1152857363516.jpg)
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i've been though several online flight sims over the years(AW3,WB,EAW) and nothing comes close to Aces High.And it has been that way for many years.You fly with guys/gals,pass through several squads & you stop,look around at the friends that are still in orange off your left wing.After Busher's Hornets merged with Jokers,it went from the point of stagnation(& leaving the game) to a new level of enthusiasm and wanting to log on to see who's on.
From my perspective Jokers Jokers has to be THE best base capture squad in AH history.That's what we do..that and get the nme's panties tied into knots.Thus we become the target of individual attacks on the BBS..Which is fine(comes with the territory).
At the core of this migration of excellent people/pilots to our squad,is our XO Joker.An excellent leader(& recruiter)..the tamer of squeakers(you know who you are)..And a pure pleasure to fly with(HT should pay this guy..then Joker gives us a cut $) :D
These are the reasons I fly now more than ever..
1:Joker
2:Busher
3:Ghi
4:SlammerX
5:Bosco
6:Alka
7:Grewsome
8:Attilla
9:Sedonna
10:U2007
11:Seano
12:Krappy
13:Twizzty
14:Pieper
15:Kdweeb
16:Skully
17:HeavyD
18:Bongboy
19:Towdog
20:Yawrate
21:Stukka
22:Fitzy
23:Online
24:Spite
25:Mike1959
26:Knacks
These are the reasons we dominate the MA in base captures...Our tactics(eg.smash & grab) were perfected by us and now widely copied.We have some excellant map readers too which always helps.
I challenge any squad to post a role call of squaddies that you think compares to ours.(base captures & MA dominance)
This cohesion and co-operative teamwork of these fine pilots is only made possible by one person..
JOKER :salute
Three letters.....LCA :rock
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Three letters.....LCA :rock
What's that? Never heard of it.
Lame Callsign Association?
:lol
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On the Contrary Shuffler,
I can appreciate your position on this and it is clear that you also appreciate mine.
Why is it that others feel the need to belittle and bash those who find different area's of the game fun for them.
Sometimes i wonder?
now heres a guy trying to defend his squad and squadies that alone shows honor in what he has started and gets respect out of me.
I have not seen this side of you before Joker <S> you have defently put a dent in what i have thought of you before.
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Oopsy was a no good Hellcat flying picktard who was always lingering at 20k!
:D
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Oopsy was a no good Hellcat flying picktard who was always lingering at 20k!
:D
I was trying to catch zazen in his landing pattern.
:aok
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<S> Jokers
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I was trying to catch zazen in his landing pattern.
:aok
:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
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I gather most are a tad jealous of their cohesiveness
You gather incorrectly then. Common mistake though.
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Hey, at least they are taking bases instead of just killing FH's at a furball. I don't see what all the stink is about. Even if they noe some base out in the styx, they aren't griefing anyone and they are havin fun. I've had the good fortune of coming across their noe's from time to time. It's a nice payoff.
If it's their idea of a good time and they aren't stepping on anyone's neck in the process, let them have their fun.
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What's that? Never heard of it.
Lame Callsign Association?
:lol
Ahh must be too much hippie lettuce smart guy. Next time put down the bong and pick up a dictionary. LCA is the squad name.
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Ahh must be too much hippie lettuce smart guy. Next time put down the bong and pick up a dictionary. LCA is the squad name.
Geez, I din't know that and I haven't touched a bong in 20 years!! :devil
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Joker said, "I've had enough of this". And yes ... gawd forbid ... up went an NOE mission into 144.
:noid
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I dont know. I'm having this vision of a bunch of guys hand in hand dancing in circles barefoot with flowers in their hair. And it just aint right.
I know Loin is a good guy and a very good stick. But horde tactics isn't some kind of elevated deployment of 24'th century star ships at high warp speeds using advanced mathematics. You load up a bunch of 4 cannon jabos with bombs, fly to the nearest base with alt, dump you bombs, vulch, HO, and pick. And then rinse and repeat as often as you can. It works against Rooks cause weve become the nation of score hungry furballers. Even I eventually get tired of 5 on 1 picks and just wonder off giving them the base. I dont exactly have anxiety fits when I lose a cartoon air base anyways.
A few times Ive just sat there on the ground and watched them miss easy dive bomb targets. One thing it isn't is "good tactics". Its simply mobbing thats all, and it makes NOE ground hugging look like "good tactics".
Hey if you have fun with it then more power to you. Ive gotten tired of what air to air has become in AH and just want to fly my IL-2s anyways.
I was tempted to respond to you, Rich 46 Year Old individual, and ask you what on earth does my snipped quoted post you refered to, have any thing to do with what you replyed with?
what in the hell does me saying I am happy for SirLoin finding enjoyment in the game again instead of logging off for good, have to do with your chitty chitty blah blah lame lemming rant of how you view the way certian people play?
the guy was just posting he has found fun again, flying with a group of people........ and I will say again
every one of us people who play aces high has at one time or another somewhere in our lifetime of playing any online game, have thought we were the sheot........ if some people do not agree with that statement then they are complete hipocrites........ most times that thought comes early on in one's online gaming experience......
I am not mad or even upset, I just can not find the logical connection with the way you quoted my post and used a small snipplet of it, then posted your response to the snipped quote........
Scotty, beam up Rich46yo, he has inhaled to much lemming juice and it has affected his brain cells :noid
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Have you lost your mind?
Not only wasnt I talking to you when I posted my tounge in cheek post but I had no idea there even was a "Taquila Chaser" until I just read this lame brain post below.
Well, I guess your having a "The world is out to get me" day. Oh I see, the snipped post was from one of your posts. And this has been laying in your guts bothering you for days? :lol Next time talk directly to me cause life is to short for these on-line travestys to go on for days. Not that I really know what in hell your talking about anyways.
You gotta take it easy pal. And the reason you cant find any connection is because there isnt one. And I'm not the "lemming" taking base after base with 5 on 1 horde tactics and calling it "great strategy". Barefoot with flower no less.
I was tempted to respond to you, Rich 46 Year Old individual, and ask you what on earth does my snipped quoted post you refered to, have any thing to do with what you replyed with?
what in the hell does me saying I am happy for SirLoin finding enjoyment in the game again instead of logging off for good, have to do with your chitty chitty blah blah lame lemming rant of how you view the way certian people play?
the guy was just posting he has found fun again, flying with a group of people........ and I will say again
every one of us people who play aces high has at one time or another somewhere in our lifetime of playing any online game, have thought we were the sheot........ if some people do not agree with that statement then they are complete hipocrites........ most times that thought comes early on in one's online gaming experience......
I am not mad or even upset, I just can not find the logical connection with the way you quoted my post and used a small snipplet of it, then posted your response to the snipped quote........
Scotty, beam up Rich46yo, he has inhaled to much lemming juice and it has affected his brain cells :noid
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I'm not the "lemming"
The bigger the Lie. The more they believe.
:noid
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The bigger the Lie. The more they believe.
:noid
sayeth the troll.
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Y A W N already!
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sayeth the troll.
LMAO thats why it's in your sig. :rofl
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LMAO thats why it's in your sig. :rofl
Troll! Trolls love to drop in on threads they arent involved in and cause trouble with their stupid one liners. Its just a shame Skuzzy doesnt allow the ignore feature here. I may not know what Taquilla is so hot and bothered about but at least he isnt a troll.
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I love it when people act like love muffines
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I love it when people act like love muffines
That's so you don't feel left out. :D :P
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I hate being left out :furious
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Troll! Trolls love to drop in on threads they arent involved in and cause trouble with their stupid one liners. Its just a shame Skuzzy doesnt allow the ignore feature here. I may not know what Taquilla is so hot and bothered about but at least he isnt a troll.
I know.. your suppose to be the only one that can toss around insults without repercussions.
We don't have to take your smug condescending/superior tone.
This isn't RL and your badge don't mean squat here.
Try and ignore that shiny badge.
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I know.. your suppose to be the only one that can toss around insults without repercussions.
We don't have to take your smug condescending/superior tone.
This isn't RL and your badge don't mean squat here.
Try and ignore that shiny badge.
What badge?
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What badge?
Ole Dickie boy is part of some cities finest.
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Ole Dickie boy is part of some cities finest.
finest corner girls?
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finest corner girls?
Do keep going. Both of you.
I know.. your suppose to be the only one that can toss around insults without repercussions.
We don't have to take your smug condescending/superior tone.
This isn't RL and your badge don't mean squat here.
Try and ignore that shiny badge.
Ole Dickie boy is part of some cities finest.
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Ahh must be too much hippie lettuce smart guy. Next time put down the bong and pick up a dictionary. LCA is the squad name.
Whoops. Forgot to put in the [/sarcasm] tags. The smiley :D was supposed to be a hint.
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Do keep going. Both of you.
Not surprised.
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I was tempted to respond to you, Rich 46 Year Old individual, and ask you what on earth does my snipped quoted post you refered to, have any thing to do with what you replyed with?
what in the hell does me saying I am happy for SirLoin finding enjoyment in the game again instead of logging off for good, have to do with your chitty chitty blah blah lame lemming rant of how you view the way certian people play?
the guy was just posting he has found fun again, flying with a group of people........ and I will say again
every one of us people who play aces high has at one time or another somewhere in our lifetime of playing any online game, have thought we were the sheot........ if some people do not agree with that statement then they are complete hipocrites........ most times that thought comes early on in one's online gaming experience......
I am not mad or even upset, I just can not find the logical connection with the way you quoted my post and used a small snipplet of it, then posted your response to the snipped quote........
Scotty, beam up Rich46yo, he has inhaled to much lemming juice and it has affected his brain cells :noid
LOL!!! simple explanation for this TC.... our "good friend" doesn't know where the "reply" button is, so instead of trying to learn a new trick he just used the "quote" button that was handy. Most likely didn't even make it to the end of your post. :D
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Does this thread seriously need 236 pages? :huh
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Does this thread seriously need 236 pages? :huh
3 pages 100 per page. Setting up preferences is your friend. ;)
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Correction. :o
17 pages*
Danke bonk ;)
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Troll! Trolls love to drop in on threads they arent involved in and cause trouble with their stupid one liners. Its just a shame Skuzzy doesnt allow the ignore feature here. I may not know what Taquilla is so hot and bothered about but at least he isnt a troll.
I am not mad or even upset, I just can not find the logical connection with the way you quoted my post and used a small snipplet of it, then posted your response to the snipped quote........
just to reitterate this point, Rich I am not mad, upset, hot or even bothered........
and you answered my question........ you mentioned your post was a tongue in cheek reply.............
no worries....
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It was entirely tounge in cheek. The list of this squad is filled with names Ive given <S> and personaly like. Most of all Loin, whom is one I have a lot of respect for, for his skills. At the same time I dont think horde tactics are "skilled". Both are true. It just seems like the arenas give you two choices nowadays, either to be in the horde or be on the recieving end. Anytime theres a problem or a misunderstanding you can just IM me. Posting this stuff here is like leaving bait for the trolls. Whom Im not even bothering to talk to anymore and am just reporting.
No problemo between you and me. :salute And thanks for allowing all this to be ironed out.
just to reitterate this point, Rich I am not mad, upset, hot or even bothered........
and you answered my question........ you mentioned your post was a tongue in cheek reply.............
no worries....
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Not surprised.
I think we need to stop Bronk..................... :rofl
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The game is what you make it. Don't forget that. What it is for you, it isn't for others. And if you think your game is more important then mine, or J0ker's or anybody else's............... Then you're not HiTech's friend and he doesn't want you here. (Only a business owner understands my last sentence)
I find this amazing since the game does not rely on base capture. The game is about fights. But if it makes you feel better tooting your horn so be it.
This type of post means more if posted by someone other than yourself patting yourself on the back.
Personally you can have the bases... I only need one to up from and find a fight.
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This post is a joke. So here's your bunny. Bottom line - Neither one ...lol
(http://i490.photobucket.com/albums/rr262/Flying79thFG/GGHOST%20-%20pictures/GGHOST%20-%20Funnies/Bunnywithpancake-WTF.png)
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The game is what you make it. Don't forget that. What it is for you, it isn't for others. And if you think your game is more important then mine, or J0ker's or anybody else's............... Then you're not HiTech's friend and he doesn't want you here. (Only a business owner understands my last sentence)
You should go back and reread Hitechs posts. I am just repeating them just not word for word.
Oh and I am a successful business owner.
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I would say that the Rolling Thunder is way better than Joker's Jokers.
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Why you gotta start trouble? :lol There have been some heated times between us and them....... And I'll tell you why..... When you have a group of individual's that care about the mission at hand, you will get the force of wills being pushed up against one another....Similar to why all the good rock bands break up.
Those guys are RockStar's and the large majority of RT has a great deal of respect for them. I'd like to think that is reciprocated as well.
I would say that the Rolling Thunder is way better than Joker's Jokers.
Since you didn't contradict what I said, I won't be a wiseguy. And since you say you own a business........ You know where I'm coming from and why you also know HiTech's words are for your consumption, not his business model.
You should go back and reread Hitechs posts. I am just repeating them just not word for word.
Oh and I am a successful business owner.
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Troll. :D
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I would say that the Rolling Thunder is way better than Joker's Jokers.
For example, the Jokers vs. Rolling Blunder thread was meant to incite toejam talk about those squads.
Twentyfo on another forum. fyi
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Twentyfo on another forum. fyi
Ohhh noes.
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Twentyfo on another forum. fyi
I was trolling and flaming on the other forum since it is allowed.
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I was trolling and flaming on the other forum since it is allowed.
Not so much squelch boi. :lol
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I was trolling and flaming on the other forum since it is allowed.
Zero credibility.
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Zero credibility.
Ok and I care what you think because?
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Ok and I care what you think because?
Because... well you whine about being squelched. :rofl
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Ok and I care what you think because?
It's not what I think, it's what anyone with a minimum of sense realizes.
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Because... well you whine about being squelched. :rofl
No I don't.
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It's not what I think, it's what anyone with a minimum of sense realizes.
How can we measure this minimum sense you speak of? :rofl :rofl
Is there a website? Did you make a graph? Could you make a graph?
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How about you guys stop responding to him? Odd idea I know.
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.... and why you also know HiTech's words are for your consumption, not his business model.
I've known the man for almost 20 years. His words are his words....he doesn't sugar-coat them for public consumption. If you think otherwise, it simply shows how little you know about the man.
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WTG on those NOE base captures yesterday :aok
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LOL
What I find funny (sad really) is that you went from a guy who was well respected and widely viewed as a solid stick/good guy to a shell of your former self...and you think this is a good thing? Personally I think the jokers are aptly named and a pox on the game (along with all the rest of the tardlets)
A troll, too. The only possible reason you could have for one of these 'tooting your own horn about something a lot of people don't like' threads is to try and draw people into saying too much on this forum and getting Skuzz-slapped for it.
Sad, really.
I will say that I do quite like running into the Jokers, though. It's a constant stream of easy kills and hearty chuckles.
So thanks for the kills and the giggles.
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Oh boy, what a great bump.
In.
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Oh boy, what a great bump.
In.
:rofl :rofl :rofl
Oh yeah we've explored this one way too much. IN
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A troll, too. The only possible reason you could have for one of these 'tooting your own horn about something a lot of people don't like' threads is to try and draw people into saying too much on this forum and getting Skuzz-slapped for it.
Sad, really.
I will say that I do quite like running into the Jokers, though. It's a constant stream of easy kills and hearty chuckles.
So thanks for the kills and the giggles.
Trolls like you drive me nuts too.
Tired of you pretending to be this Austrian, that loves Goth music, loves to swim, and has a girlfriend.
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Hahaha.
You know what the funny thing is? Despite all of that, people still like me more than you.
:aok
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Hahaha.
You know what the funny thing is? Despite all of that, people still like me more than you.
:aok
No offense but this comparison sets your bar really really low.
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No offense but this comparison sets your bar really really low.
+1
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Hahaha. I suppose it went without saying, didn't it?
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I shot expert today with a 9mm I OWN :rock :rock :rock
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bah...i was shootin' sand fiddlers from 20 yards with a red rider 35yrs ago. :cool:
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bah...i was shootin' sand fiddlers from 20 yards with a red rider 35yrs ago. :cool:
wamp rats?
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(http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk121/TheAmish/sandfiddler.jpg)Sand Fiddler :D
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AKA Fiddler Crab
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Loin :salute
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I have a 'policy' with AH in order to always keep it fun and prevent it from turning into a source of aggression like I have seen so many times in-game.
Basically, I always try to keep it civil. No matter how lame, dweeby, cheap and annoying some people can be... I always try to let it go...
I will say that I do quite like running into the Jokers, though. It's a constant stream of easy kills and hearty chuckles.
So thanks for the kills and the giggles.
So much for being "civil"... :rolleyes:
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So much for being "civil"... :rolleyes:
:lol :lol
Ouch
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So much for being "civil"... :rolleyes:
What? I didn't call them losers or retards or dweebs. I just said they're easy kills........ because they are. They spend all their time taking bases rather than fighting so they don't often push me to my limit. It was a statement of fact rather than a personal attack.
There is an Aussie in their squad so there is a little bit of extra fun there for me. I used to love and hate flying against my squad before I joined. They always, always slapped me around and they'd always do it as wingmen too. They flew together so well that I'd never have a shot. As soon as I'd made a nice reversal I'd have to break because his wingman would be coming around on my six.
I soon found out that it was ftJR and Gorkle glove-slapping most of the time and now it is always great fun to wing with them.
I get a laugh from doing the same thing to someone else. Maybe one day he will submit to the power of the prawn like I did. :lol
They're still good enough to put up a bit of a fight though, so like I said, I do enjoy running into them.
Being civil doesn't mean that I have to be a fairy to everyone. :angel: