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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: ScottyK on February 05, 2009, 10:48:33 PM
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Why are CVs ALWAYS directed to go straight to an airfield and get as close as possible? Did the U.S. go straight to the coast of Japan and say hey look at us we are right here ready for u to sink us. Just seems pointless to me. but what do i know im a 'noob'
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Did the U.S. go straight to the coast of Japan and say hey look at us we are right here ready for u to sink us.
U.S. didn't get a fresh CV for each sunk one a few mins later ;)
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LOL
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Well, just in case your question isn't rhetorical..
The "game" carriers go right up to the shore, so very
vulnerable LVTs will have as short a trip as possible on
their way to the town/maproom.. Preferably they will
spawn "feet dry", so they dont have to waddle thru
the water at a snails pace, getting straffed by IL2's
and 110's..
In reality, an attack carrier wouldn't go ANYWHERE near
a hostile shore.. It would launch its attacks from over
the horizon, with its planes taking a dogleg course to
prevent revealing its true position...
If we had amphibious assault fleets, it wouldn't be an issue..
Maybe someday, we will!!! The game needs it!!!
RC
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In reality, an attack carrier wouldn't go ANYWHERE near
a hostile shore..
Our maps don't have even enough room to provide the distance the CV would stay away from enemy bases in reality.
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U.S. didn't get a fresh CV for each sunk one a few mins later ;)
They almost did by the end of the war the U.S. had like 18 of them :lol
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Cozying a CV to a town is also needless. Try it offline. Jump a CV to 30K from a town. Spawn an LWT2. Try it at 15K from town. Try it at 5K.
When I tried it at 16K moments ago, LWT2 spawned at same distace from town as when I was snuggled close to town.
For fun, pop into a SB at those distances to gauge effectiveness of SB fire.
Pretty revealing, eh?
BTW, Widewing years ago wrote a very fine essay on CV ops. What I detail here, he took the time to find out a long time ago.
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If the attackers bring down, in order of importance, Ords, VH, Shore guns, the CV is quite safe coming in.
Of course the reality is everyone is busy vulching and padding their scores. :huh
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scotty may I suggest you get your rank as low as possible and keep all of your teams CV's well out of the way, :t
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Also, being closer to the shore enables the 'big guns' on the cruiser to do some havoc on the field. Since nobody will direct fire from above, gunners will need a visual of where/what they're shoot :)
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One reason ive noticed for keeping cv's close is the auto flak will fire on anything above 3000ft, this limits the effectivness of the vaunted la7's' spit16's, and N1k's that usualy make trouble for the slower climbing carrier born aircraft, byt forcing them down low.
Ive noticed because it infuriates me, and I start running b25'h's as soon as I recieve flak over the field...
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It's not so much the auto-flak as it is the manned ack, which is laserguided!
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Why are CVs ALWAYS directed to go straight to an airfield and get as close as possible? Did the U.S. go straight to the coast of Japan and say hey look at us we are right here ready for u to sink us. Just seems pointless to me. but what do i know im a 'noob'
Maybe you should request a new separate Task Force with LSTs, etc. for amphibious landings to compliment the existing Task Force for aerial operations. :aok
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Well in the game it makes for some great fights otd. Quick to get to, no time wasted climbing.
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CVs already can't have waypoints set that touch land. It shouldn't be too hard to adjust that code so the CV can't get closer than 25 miles from a base.
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25 miles is more then a little ridiculous. Shore batteries wont even shoot that far for one thing and for another the fleet guns can only shoot about that far.
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to be honest
on alot of maps if the cv is not bright in close
the airbases will be closer then the CV would be
it seems alot of people just use cv's to create instant furballs and shorten flight times
which I am not bashing, just what I see
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to be honest
on alot of maps if the cv is not bright in close
the airbases will be closer then the CV would be
it seems alot of people just use cv's to create instant furballs and shorten flight times
which I am not bashing, just what I see
Yup works great untill the capture types or the buff types kill it.
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lol cv fights are the best till some bomber guy ruins the fun
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it seems alot of people just use cv's to create instant furballs and shorten flight times
which I am not bashing, just what I see
Yep. That's what I like them for. The downside to that is those that manage to get the cv real close to shore and then man the guns and start sniping at the planes that are defending the base when they're engage with the carrier planes.
That really annoys me. I don't have a problem with the ship's guns being used to shell the town or defend the fleet. It is very annoying, though, to be engaged with an enemy plane and some gun bunny from the enemy fleet that's too scared to up a fighter ends up blasting you with a 5" gun while you're in a nice fight.
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today i just sat 25k-30k off of an airfield.....and i hit the town pretty effectively.
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today i just sat 25k-30k off of an airfield.....and i hit the town pretty effectively.
25 k is not 25miles just so people are clear... 25miles is one hole grid
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The only thing that gets me pissed off is when they have it so close you can't get alt for divebombing.
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Yup works great untill the capture types or the buff types kill it.
Or until someone puts the CV so close to the base that you can get hit by ack-ack on the runway depending on where you spawn, and the whole field is covered by 5".
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Or until someone puts the CV so close to the base that you can get hit by ack-ack on the runway depending on where you spawn, and the whole field is covered by 5".
Agreed
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Two words:
Unlimited Lives.
or
Unlimited Units.
Think about it, do you really need to?
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U.S. didn't get a fresh CV for each sunk one a few mins later ;)
Plus radar in this game is different than WWII.
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Plus radar in this game is different than WWII.
whaaaat?? you mean they didnt have Tomtom in their fighters?